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Explainer: Indicative votes ahead as MPs 'take back control' - but will it make a difference to Brexit?

Theresa May wanted a meaningful vote this week, but instead has a series of indicative votes instead.

LAST NIGHT, MPs in the House of Commons voted to give themselves greater control of the Brexit process, as it enters its potential endgame.

A week may be a long time in politics, but a week in Brexit is something else entirely as the vote last night by MPs comes after weeks and months of political wrangling and upheaval.

So, what happened last night? Will it make a difference? Is a deal or a no-deal now more or less likely?

The Letwin amendment

What MPs were voting on last night was dubbed the Letwin Amendment, proposed by Conservative former minister Sir Oliver Letwin.

His amendment proposed that MPs take control of business in the House of Commons on Wednesday away from Prime Minister Theresa May’s government. This would allow MPs to vote on what type of Brexit it wants, through a series of indicative votes.

By 329 votes to 302, MPs voted in favour of the Letwin Amendment. Conservatives were whipped to vote in favour of the government, but the prime minister had 29 rebels within her party voting against the whip. 

MPs voted to set their own agenda for the House of Commons rather than follow May’s. This is a significant step that had not won enough backing in recent months.

But what are indicative votes?

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So, indicative votes are when MPs aren’t just given one option to vote on – they’re given many of them.

For Theresa May’s meaningful votes on her Brexit withdrawal agreement, MPs were given the option of either accepting or rejecting the prime minister’s deal.

In the case of indicative votes on Brexit, it’ll mean that MPs can vote on whether they want Theresa May’s deal, a no-deal Brexit, a second referendum, a customs’ union etc.

However, this of course also opens the possibility that there is no majority of MPs for any one option. And, furthermore, two opposed stances – such as no-deal and a second referendum – could theoretically have a majority voting in favour of them (although this is of course unlikely). 

The order in which these options are voted on will make a difference to how MPs sway. 

If a no-deal is first on the table and MPs rule it out, the rest of the options put to them will be some sort of deal – but is there a majority for any one of them?

Similarly, if everything else is ruled out and a no-deal is the last vote – what then?

Prime Minister May said herself that she was sceptical of an indicative votes strategy as it could lead to “contradictory outcomes or no outcome at all”.

Will this make a difference?

That’s where the narrative of MPs “taking back control” of the Brexit process runs into problems.

Indicative votes from MPs in the House of Commons are not binding on the UK government. 

If, for example, an indicative vote on a second referendum was passed by a majority of MPs, Theresa May is not obliged to hold one.

She is free to ignore an indicative vote if she chooses to do so.

However, with May under such severe pressure from inside her party, from the opposition and from Europe, it will take an extraordinary feat of political maneuvering to ignore the will of parliament after she specifically blamed MPs last week for not being able to decide anything.

With the Brexit impasse dominating for so long, if British MPs finally agreed on some way – any way – forward, the political pressure on Theresa May to follow this will be intense.

Even with that, then there’s Europe.

Following years of negotiations, the EU agreed a withdrawal agreement with the UK. The House of Commons has rejected it twice and the EU said it is not willing to reopen this agreement. 

If there is to be a radical change in how Britain says it will leave the EU – as long as it still wants to leave with some sort of deal – then a long delay to Brexit could be likely.

What about Theresa May’s deal?

May continues to cling to power amidst increasing pressure on her leadership, with the hope that she can still somehow get her withdrawal agreement through parliament.

She had originally hoped to hold a third meaningful vote on her deal this week, but told the House of Commons yesterday she currently doesn’t have enough support to pass through parliament.

Meanwhile, the DUP continues to remain a roadblock in May’s plans. 

Hardline Brexiteers had indicated that they would vote for May’s deal if the DUP were happy with it; but the DUP have thus far only called for changes to the backstop in the Withdrawal Agreement, which May flatly ruled out in parliament yesterday.

The extension offered by the European Union last week indicates that the UK parliament must offer a new way forward, or else it would leave the EU without a deal on 12 April.

If May’s deal passes, the UK would leave the EU on 22 May.

With MPs voting to take control of business in the House of Commons tomorrow, the prime minister has little chance of getting her deal through this week. 

But, the deal has come back from the dead before, and we may not have seen the last of it just yet. 

Does this make either a deal or a no-deal more likely?

Predicting what’ll happen next in Brexit is fraught with difficulty, given how fluidly the situation has changed so often in recent months. 

The next real indication we’ll get of what kind of Brexit will eventually happen will be following the results of the indicative votes tomorrow in Westminster.

MPs voting to set their own agenda does suggest the potential for a majority for a softer Brexit where the UK remains within a customs union, and that’ll be made clearer tomorrow.

But what actually happens there could make the situation no clearer – if there’s no majority for anything and with the potential for May to simply ignore the results.

One thing is clear – after the short extension granted to the UK, it only has two weeks to decide what its next steps are.

As is always the case with Brexit, time is running out. 

With reporting from Gráinne Ní Aodha

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:00 PM

    Filthy animals, the people dumping their rubbish that is.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 1:24 PM

    What’s a picture of the Minister for social protection or self promotion doing in front of this story.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 7:38 PM

    Not proud of the thought, but have we become the litter capital of Europe. Just so bad here in Dublin..

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    Mar 13th 2015, 3:53 AM

    I thought you meant the Dail for a minute?

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:19 AM

    …and put your garbage in a garbage can, people. I can’t stress that enough.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:40 PM

    There is litter strewn from 1 side of this country to another in every town, village, ditch in the place. Nobody takes any pride in our place, and these same people then complain about rodent problems. Cause and effect? It’s up to everyone to take responsibility for their own litter. The sooner we all realise this the better. Its not up to the gubbernment to clean up after everyone.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:55 PM

    Now they are multiplying more complex maths is next. It’s only a matter of time before they develop rudimentary computer skills and take over. Run I tell you.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 2:03 PM

    What Mr O’Grady should be shouting about is why these filthy vermin are not prosecuted for dumping waste

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    Mar 12th 2015, 2:23 PM

    We had a neighbour who fired her rubbish into a disused wheelie bin.. when it got too full she just threw it beside the bin.. and along came the rats.. horrible disgusting animals..

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:09 PM

    So let me get this straight…
    - people refuse to pay to get their rubbish collected
    - people then complain when rats start multiplying on piles of rubbish…

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    Mar 12th 2015, 1:18 PM

    Then Councillor calls on Council, of which he is a member, to “do something”…

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:16 AM

    Shotguns, lots of shotguns.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:25 AM

    Terriers …

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:49 AM

    C4

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:33 PM

    I thought this was just a load of exaggeration until I saw them doing The Siege Of Ennis outside the cathedral

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:36 AM

    Interesting rats do not sweat. Rats’ front teeth grow 4½ to 5½ inches each year and a pair of brown rats can produce as many as 2,000 descendants in a year if left to breed unchecked. Rats usually just live 2 to 3 years and are quite intelligent. My cat has reached retirement age and has given up hunting so I often see rats and they are definitely getting bigger.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:26 AM

    Slightly disappointed that he didn’t mean literally.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:43 AM

    “Some people are unwilling or unable to pay”
    Hmmm !! Where have we heard that before.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:47 AM

    From the poor who keep getting hit with charges by a Taoiseach who thinks the minimum wage for a single person is 35 k. per annum is where !

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:48 AM

    The 350 Irish HSBC bank account holders?

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    Mar 13th 2015, 3:52 AM

    Dublin?

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:52 AM

    “estates in Killarney are ‘dancing’ on top of rubbish piles”???? That must be some sight

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:44 PM

    A kind of…Tops of the Towns….meets Chicago musical number…is what I’m imagining!!

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:21 PM

    I taught the Labour party conference Killarney ended weeks ago.?

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:27 AM

    Get down on it !
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    Get your back up off the wall…..

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:13 AM

    I assume it’s the Kerry Polka they are dancing.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:32 AM

    Thought the might be doing a slow set to Ben!

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:20 PM

    It will all be sorted after the next General Election when Independents like Healy-Rae will hold one of the big parties to ransom and get a load of stuff for Kerry at the expense of every other county.
    Of course till then people could just take some personal responsibility and bin their own rubbish and pay for it to be taken away like the rest of us…

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    Put them in the Gondolas and they’ll be grand !

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:17 PM

    I’m sure there’s a Healy-Rea there somewhere willing to don his Pied Piper outfit (and a cap of course) and rid them for ever.

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:05 PM

    Get that rat catcher/killer from that city in Pakistan he’s doing it for feck all!

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:57 AM

    Are they not practicing the set dancing for the annual paddy’s day drinkfest? Shame on them ……must be foreign rats here to get our dole money and steal our jobs as plague spreaders !

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:20 PM

    I taught the Labour party conference in Killarney ended weeks ago?

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    Mar 12th 2015, 2:28 PM

    Ha ha

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:12 AM

    I love Roland rat.
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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:35 AM

    No complaints from them when they can field one of them at corner forward though, is there. One year out injured & they’re already turning on the coopers in the kingdom, short memories!

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:48 AM

    The semi-final replay was an absolute disgrace from a refereeing point of view – I lost all respect for Kerry Football that day !
    Put the Paddy Cullen episode into a whole new light for me !

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    Mar 12th 2015, 12:41 PM

    Joan burton and labour party must stayed there dancing around only thing there good at

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    Mar 12th 2015, 11:32 AM

    I thought it was an old time waltz…

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    Mar 12th 2015, 6:58 PM

    That rat looks so cute !

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    Mar 12th 2015, 1:08 PM

    Surely that’s a good thing, another attraction to sell to the yanks…..

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    Mar 13th 2015, 11:59 AM

    The first thing that shocked me when I arrived in Ireland was the refuse service. Maybe in Dublin it works better?

    In France the garbage is collected every single day, by a public service, and the fee is ridiculously small compared to Ireland. If the garbage haven’t been collected for more than two days it is considered as a serious health and safety issue, and you can sue quickly.

    When I saw garbage accumulating sometimes for one week or more without being removed, I just couldn’t believe it….

    I immediately thought about the potential heaven for rats :(…. This is just not acceptable for a European country. And yet it’s very expensive for such a unacceptable standard! Something should be done about it.

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    Mar 13th 2015, 3:51 AM

    The way people waste food these days, it is a wonder that rats can still walk?

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