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Facebook urges against 'punitive' fines for firms who breach Government's new online safety laws

The government published submissions on the proposed laws today.

FACEBOOK HAS CALLED on the Government not to introduce “punitive” fines for social media companies who will be found in breach of proposed online safety laws.

In a submission to the Department of Communications, the social media giant also warned about the potential free speech implications of the proposed Online Safety Act.

The legislation proposes the creation of an Online Safety Commissioner, who will review how companies moderate their content, order companies to remove individual pieces of content within a certain timeframe, and impose fines on those who fail to comply.

Under new proposals, online companies could be required to implement an Online Safety Code, which will outline how they are keeping their users safe online.

The code could also see companies required to provide clear information to their users about how material posted on their platforms can be removed. 

Earlier this year, the government carried out a six-week public consultation into the proposals, which asked how ‘harmful’ content should be defined, the kind of sanctions that should be imposed on companies, and which online platforms should be included.

The Department received 84 submissions from individuals, government bodies, charities, and companies including Facebook, Google, Vodafone, RTÉ, TG4 and Independent News & Media, which have been published today.

Freedom of speech

In a 40-page submission, Facebook said that it supported the Government’s aim to deal with so-called ‘harmful’ content online, adding that it welcomed the introduction of legislation that would streamline the process for having ‘harmful’ content removed.

However, the company cautioned that this should be done in a way that did not curtail “legitimate freedom of speech and freedom of expression”.

It suggested that any code relating to the removal of content online should encourage users to contact social media companies with a complaint first, which could later be escalated to a regulator, saying that such a process would be more efficient.

Facebook also said that in cases where the service provider disagreed that certain content was harmful, the regulator could issue a decision requiring the removal of the content, but it added that this should be open to be challenged in court.

“This is particularly important given the free speech implications that may be at play in cases where the regulator is seeking to demand the removal of content that is deemed harmful but may not be unlawful,” the submission reads.

The social media firm said it recognised that a regulator should able to impose sanctions on companies that did not adhere to the proposed code, but said that such sanctions should only be applied to companies that regularly fail to comply with orders to remove content.

It further submitted that any sanctions should bear in mind provisions in the Constitution, citing Article 34.1 and Article 38.1, which refer to the course of criminal proceedings in law and the administration of justice in court.

The company also called for any “administrative fines” to be proportionate, and for mitigation factors to be tied to any system of sanctions, adding:

It is again important that such fines are not so high as to essentially be punitive in nature, which would be indicative of the matter being a criminal matter best resolved by the courts.

Public interest

Meanwhile, Google also warned about the potential implications that the introduction of a code for removing online content could have for the freedom of speech.

In its submission, the company cited UN recommendations about how to ensure that freedom of expression was not curtailed by regulation which protected internet users from harmful content online.

“The protection and promotion of the right to freedom of expression is a fundamental public interest,” the company wrote.

“Google has always sought to appropriately promote the freedom of expression guarantee across its products.”

Like Facebook, Google highlighted issues about the introduction of regulations which would punish companies for how they responded to requests to remove content.

It warned that regulations which dealt with companies punitively could encourage companies to become less critical in how they removed content.

Instead, they suggested that companies may end up erring on the side of caution and could remove content without balancing the free-speech rights of the individuals who posted it originally.

Blanket monitoring

Meanwhile, the Irish Council for Civil Liberties (ICCL) submitted that any uncertainties about the moderation of content online should favour of freedom of expression, privacy, and data protection.

The group warned that the government’s proposals may not adhere to human rights laws, and said that social media companies were increasingly engaging in “platform censorship”, rather than harmful content removal.

The ICCL suggested the introduction of “self-appointed filtering” – whereby users would allow what they would see themselves – as a way to moderate content, rather than relying on companies to do so themselves.

“These designs are nascent and still exploratory but redirect the conversation to the importance of users deciding for ourselves what we want our internet and online platforms to look like,” ICCL added.

Responding to the submissions, Minister for Communications Richard Bruton thanked those who contributed and said he would bring draft heads of bill to Government after considering them.

He also said that better controls needed to be in place for moderating content online, and added that while he would listen to all views, he would not allow a system of self-regulation to continue.

“We will not accept a situation whereby online companies are permitted to regulate themselves,” he said. “That day is gone.”

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    Mute offtheball
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    Jun 27th 2019, 11:18 AM

    The bigger the fine the better!! People have to realise that you just cannot post whatever you feel like on line without repercussions.

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    Jun 27th 2019, 11:10 AM

    Facebook urges against punitive fines for breaches of people privacy or else risk losing 1000’s of jobs (in small print)!!

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    Jun 27th 2019, 11:11 AM

    Out of curiosity, what happens if social media companies just say no to whatever laws the Irish state implement? Is there anything the Irish state can actually do to companies who may not even be registered here, or would their sites become as hard to access as pirate bay?

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    Jun 27th 2019, 2:45 PM

    @winston smith: piratebay is easy to access

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    Jun 27th 2019, 3:54 PM

    @David Gannon: it sure is!

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    Mute Wade Wilson
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    Jun 27th 2019, 11:45 AM

    Of course this government wants to censor the internet. They can’t have people finding out about all their dirty laundry.

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    Jun 27th 2019, 2:18 PM

    @Wade Wilson: zzzzzzzzzz

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    Jun 27th 2019, 11:26 AM

    Quite a debate. Most of us do not want crap and manipulative fake news, or bullying content, but I feel sure we do not want obsessive censorship either?

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    Mute Derek Durkin
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    Jun 27th 2019, 11:50 AM

    As if governments are in any way interested in protecting citizens interests, they will use this to consolidate their own power and control. If they were interested they would have tackled the porn industry years ago, which is available to any kid of any age at a click of a button. They have shut down streaming sites pretty quick and ban thousands of sites every year but tackling porn is taboo.

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    Mute Richard Burke
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    Jun 27th 2019, 11:59 AM

    How can media companies be held responsible for everything posted online if there’s no obvious malicious content. If we want to take this to the next stage. If I were to send some obscene content by bluetooth, screen sharing or several other means available, who can we blame?
    If I were to send some obscene content by post, can the postal services be held responsible????
    All obscene content should be traceable back to source and the law should deal with the source.

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    Jun 27th 2019, 7:57 PM

    @Richard Burke: I don’t think your using the correct analogy there. Posting out random stuff would be similar to people opening E-mail. Perhaps had you said you sent an article or advert, to a local paper, it would be the papers responsibility to censor what was said as it goes out to a large audience.

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    Jun 27th 2019, 12:17 PM

    Won’t change a thing. If people want something out there they will make a fake page with a VPN/ using Tor and post what they want. Once something is up 5 minutes its screenshotted and doing the rounds on WhatsApp.

    The boy a boy b search brings up nothing in Facebook anymore but it’s still being shared around. Same as Robert Thompson and John Venables. Its impossible to censor the internet.

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    Jun 27th 2019, 2:28 PM

    I think society as a whole will be far better off if Facebook and all social media/networks were gone. The negatives far out weight the positives, and all governments will have an obesity and mental illness epidemic to deal with in the future.
    And before it’s pointed out, I too can see the Irony in commenting on this topic through a social media account. But if it was all shut down in the morning, I would not loose a wink of sleep. In fact I’d probably get far more winks…

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    Jun 27th 2019, 12:59 PM

    Whatever about the right to freedom of speech surely people have a right to protect themselves and their good name. At the moment social media is a free for all which has had devasting consequences for some on the receiving end of the ‘free speech brigade.’ It’s a joke for FB to suggest the first step should be to contact the social media company !!! Has anyone tried to contact FB…It’s impossible.

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    Jun 27th 2019, 2:14 PM

    Confused how Facebook is even relevant any more. Completely dead as a social media platform. It’s just an ad platform where people sometimes share content

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    Jun 28th 2019, 2:15 AM

    The whole point of the internet is to be a lawless and anarchic wild west of discussion. If you don’t like it, don’t use it.

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    Jun 27th 2019, 5:37 PM

    The day for facebook is nearly over.

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