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Facebook 'concerned' over plans to regulate online political advertising in Ireland

An Oireachtas committee will hear submissions from Facebook and Twitter today on the proposed Electoral Reform Bill.

FACEBOOK WILL TODAY tell an Oireachtas committee that it has “concerns” over proposed electoral reform laws in Ireland that would regulate political advertisements online.

The social media giant will also tell TDs and senators that if the government presses ahead with these reforms it could place platforms such as Facebook in the “undesirable and avoidable situation where they could have to choose between violating Irish law or violating EU law”. 

Twitter, meanwhile, will tell the committee that there is a “remote chance” that the proposed reforms around advertising on social media could negatively impact the day-to-day campaigning of non-profit organisations and NGOs. 

In January, the government published the general scheme of the Electoral Reform Bill

The bill proposes to set up a statutory, independent Electoral Commission for Ireland.

It would also see the regulation of online political advertising in the run-up to electoral events, along with the modernisation of the electoral registration process. 

Under the general scheme of the bill, it defines an online political advertisement as “any form of communication in a digital format commissioner for political purposes” to be displayed or promoted on an online platform for which the platform charges money. 

It would be a requirement to have a “transparency notice” displayed with the advert denoting who has paid for the ad, how a person came to be targeted with the ad and the amount paid. The onus will be on the online platforms to ensure such information is made available for the adverts they allow to be run on their sites. 

The Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage is conducting pre-legislative scrutiny on the bill, and will today hear from representatives from Facebook and Twitter on the matter. 

In his opening statement to the committee, Facebook Ireland’s head of public policy Dualta Ó Broin will say that the social media firm has analysed the general scheme of the Electoral Reform Bill “with great interest but, at times, also with some concerns”. 

“Regarding the specific wording of the proposed legislation, it seems appropriate to start with the definition of a political advertisement,” Ó Broin will say. “Facebook recommends a more objective definition of Online Political Advertising.

“At a minimum, the legislation should take account of what online intermediaries, such as Facebook, can and cannot do. In short, we can identify whether an ad contains certain content, but we cannot divine the intention that an individual has in placing an ad. The reference to ‘political purpose’ should be replaced with a far more objective test.”

Ó Broin will also say Facebook has a “broad range of concerns” about the transparency requirements. 

These include “privacy concerns” about the information regarding an individual which is intended to be shared and the impact of “disclosing specific micro-targeting criteria”. 

We also have practical concerns about the appropriateness of online platforms collecting information about the amount spent on “content creation,” and the requirements for advertisers to provide an end-date for a campaign. Finally, we have concerns about the reporting obligations set out in this head and question whether they are proportionate or indeed necessary in all circumstances.

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Both Twitter and Facebook will say they welcome the government’s move at reform to ensure the integrity and transparency of elections. 

In the case of Twitter, it will say its interactions with the UK electoral commission had been “positive” and it would work with its Irish equivalent once established. 

It will say it already prohibits political advertising, and does so on the belief that “political message reach should be earned, not bought”. 

Twitter will also say it takes action against disinformation on its platform when it comes to elections, such as efforts to mislead about an election outcome or encourage voter suppression or intimidation. 

It will also say its platform has a positive effect in the run up to elections. 

“For example, during the Irish General Election in 2020, we saw a consistently high level of positive and healthy political debate on Twitter between candidates, parties, voters, journalists, civil society groups and interested election-watchers,” Twitter will say. 

On the issue of the Electoral Reform Bill, Twitter will say that there’s a chance that the definition of “political purpose” as set out in the legislation may have a remote chance of negatively affecting non-profits or NGOs seeking to advertise on online platforms. 

It will say: “It would be helpful if this was further clarified. We respectfully submit that such categories of promotion should not be subject to the requirements set out in the draft legislation.”

Both Twitter and Facebook will express concerns about efforts to regulate online platforms at both a national and European level. 

Twitter will call for a “coherent set of standards at a European level” as failure to do so would “risk building virtual walls between our digital communities”. 

Facebook will say that enacting the Electoral Reform Bill now will “lead to a lack of alignment” between Irish rules and EU rules. 

“We understand that the Commission intends to publish a legislative proposal for political advertising in the next six months,” its head of policy Ó Broin will say.

“There is a very real possibility that online platforms could find themselves under two inconsistent regulatory regimes and placed in the undesirable (and avoidable) situation where they would have to choose between violating Irish law, or violating EU law.”

The Oireachtas Committee will begin its hearing in the Dáil chamber at 9.30am this morning. 

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    Mute moneymaid
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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:06 PM

    Glad to see staff standing up for themselves. How many stories have been on here recently about staff getting attacked?
    It’s a tough job that I wouldn’t like to do , especially when you don’t have ‘back up’ available and an employer who would rather pay injured staff rather than hire more!
    Some areas need more staff in the public sector and this is one.

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    Mute Everett Gold
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    Sep 18th 2014, 5:51 PM

    Well done the warders.There is no point in keeping the powder dry all the time and you need to come off the high moral ground every once in a while.
    As for those who are upset for the poor prisoners,they have the TV

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    Mute Shane Griffin
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    Sep 18th 2014, 3:54 PM

    If I wasn’t happy in my job I’d find a new one.

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    Mute moneymaid
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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:08 PM

    What a stupid comment!

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    Mute david murphy
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    Sep 18th 2014, 6:51 PM

    Staff shortages because of a moratorium on new recruits. Over 100 lads were waiting to start the job after passing medicals and 2 years of apptitude tests and exams..and nothing came of it. Time ran out for those applicants and they must start from scratch again. Joke of a system.

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    Mute Rayo Salón 9991
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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:01 PM

    Maybe they should advertise the positions on Jobsbridge

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    Mute Steve Hardy
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    Sep 18th 2014, 3:59 PM

    Sack ‘em all

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Sep 18th 2014, 5:19 PM

    And who would it then Steve? You?
    There is a reason the World Health Organisation has classed the Job of Prison Officer as the second most stressfull job after Aircraft Controller.
    What most people don’t realise is that of those that initially join the Job over half will leave within the first year when they realise it is not the easy job they thought it was going to be.
    The vast majority of the publics knowledge of what is involved in working in a prison comes from heavily edited documentaries and fictional films or drama series.
    How many of you go to work knowing that there is a high chance of you not going home at the end of your working day because you are in A&E after being assaulted. How many of you have to be constantly aware of your surroundings and who is around you even when you are off duty and out with your family.
    An Officer only recently had his car burnt out outside his home. How many of you have to worry that maybe next time it could be petrol through your letter box.
    So if you think that its an easy job and that anyone could do then apply the next time they are taking on Officers and walk the walk then and only then you can talk the talk.

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    Mute Steve Hardy
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    Sep 18th 2014, 5:30 PM

    Forbes has a different list, they say taxi driving is more stressful, but whatever floats that chip on your shoulder. Farming is more dangerous than being a PO, chill.

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Sep 18th 2014, 7:06 PM

    Steve I will take the word of the World Health Organisation. And as for a chip I am not the one that said ” Sack them all” you were.

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    Mute mitch connors
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    Sep 18th 2014, 10:03 PM

    Muppet

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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:19 PM

    That wall is very high, there’s just no escaping that.

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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:03 PM

    I’d say the staff shortages were a lot worse while they were picketing…

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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:24 PM

    Wouldn’t have happened in Gypsy Joes day

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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:05 PM

    Tonight there’s gona be jailbreak is being sung all over the prison

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    Mute Steve Hardy
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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:08 PM

    Tonight there’s gonna be jailbreak, somewhere in this town, but most likely at one of the jails

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    Sep 18th 2014, 9:16 PM

    @ Jack and Mick
    Mick I’ve read your comments on here before always to the point with no gloss.
    Don’t let the likes of this jack let you lose sight of the work you and your colleagues do.
    IPS don’t care if you dont go home to your family after going through that door.
    It’s cheaper to pay the claims, as an official from state claims once told me when I asked him about banning smoking in the prison’s, and that was in the presence of our general secretary.
    Stay strong and focussed with all groups within , psec, osg, paso grades fight together

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    Mute Tony Le Blanc
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    Sep 18th 2014, 5:30 PM

    Rather misleading headline: Both sides ‘disappointed’ as officers picket outside Cloverhill prison

    Pretty sure the lads inside dont give a damn

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    Mute Frank Cauldhame
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    Sep 18th 2014, 7:30 PM

    So, it looks like the gaffer at Cloverhill has a few screws loose……

    (putting me coat on ;-) )

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    Mute JackMc
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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:44 PM

    Press a button and turn a key – not that hard a job

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:48 PM

    You should try it sometime. Then see if you make stupid uninformed comments.

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    Mute Joe Corleone
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    Sep 18th 2014, 5:22 PM

    Probably shit yourself if you seen the inside of a prison Jack, and yer smart arse would belong to someone.

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    Mute JackMc
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    Sep 18th 2014, 6:55 PM

    Please tell me what skill/training is involved? I know a lot of them and they admit they only went in because there were no other secure public service jobs left

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Sep 18th 2014, 7:23 PM

    Skills/Training. Firstly you have to know the law in relation to prisons, prisoners and anyone entering the prison. You have to know how to deal with the mentally ill, angry violent people and those that are weak afraid and vulnerable. You have to know how to defend yourself and how to deal with a riot situation. You have to know First Aid and fire Fighting. You have to know how the court system works and the different legal documents that go with it. You have to know how to negotiate in a hostage situation. You have to learn situational security awareness, how to read people by their postures and facial expressions. You have to learn to be both an authoritarian figure and social worker combined.
    So Jack if you think the Job is so easy why don’t you apply. See if you have the balls to face down an inmate armed with a shiv while you are armed only with your voice and the presence you portray.

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    Sep 18th 2014, 8:33 PM

    All very poetic but you do 99% of this from the other side of a celldoor – Nurses, Guards, Firefighters do this out in the real world.

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    Sep 18th 2014, 9:19 PM

    And you know this how?

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    Sep 18th 2014, 10:04 PM

    Kill them with shop orders & love !!

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    Sep 18th 2014, 10:27 PM

    99%, wow that’s an awful big figure! How did you come up with that? Did you pull it from a dangleberry Bush? There’s no one knocking the excellent work that the Guards, Nurses and Fire Brigade do, don’t knock the unseen thankless work that is done by Prison Staff.

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    Sep 18th 2014, 10:58 PM

    JackMc you asked the Question “Please tell me what skill/training is involved?”
    I gave you the answer. Just because it wasn’t the answer you thought you would get because it didn’t fit
    into your preconceived ideas.

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    Sep 19th 2014, 12:47 AM

    No Mick, I was just ignoring your pontification. But in response if they built proper prisons we could avoid scenarios like you described, robots could do the same job. Nurses Guards and Firefighters do a job that they joined because they wanted to help people. Can you honestly say POs joined to do that? I don’t think so – it was for the money and the job security.

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    Sep 19th 2014, 2:05 AM

    JackMc nobody but you has mentioned Gardai, Fire Fighters or Nurses all of which do fantastic work. And what in your opinion is a ” proper prison”?
    And as for robots. How would a robot deal with an inmate with mental health issues? How would a robot stop one inmate from stabbing/slashing/beating another inmate? How would a robot deal with an attempted suicide? How would a robot man our criminal courts? How would a Robot stop a group of prisoners smashing up and or burning the prison to the ground? How would a Robot deal with the simple day to day issues that entails running a landing? How would a robot feed the inmates?
    Be so good to share your knowledge of all things prison related to the rest of us mere mortals.

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    Sep 18th 2014, 8:48 PM

    Ya should of never broke away from 24/7 alliance. Sound

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    Sep 18th 2014, 9:17 PM

    Why?

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    Mute Vincent Sweeney
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    Sep 18th 2014, 9:19 PM

    Why?

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    Sep 18th 2014, 9:33 PM

    A nd 24/7 have done what exactly for the nurses in galway yesterday?

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    Sep 18th 2014, 4:48 PM

    Were the prisoners consulted?

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    Sep 18th 2014, 5:18 PM

    You wouldnt believe how close to the truth you are!

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    Sep 18th 2014, 11:34 PM

    Whingers

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