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Family representative of ferry passengers. Ahn Young-joon

6,000 Korean police storm religious compound in manhunt for sunken ferry owner

Followers of the Evangelical Baptist Church of Korea erected a barricade at the entrance to the complex, but made no move to block police.

THOUSANDS OF SOUTH Korean police have forced their way into the compound of a splinter religious group in their search for a fugitive businessman wanted in connection with April’s ferry disaster.

Live television reports showed police officers, many in full riot gear, streaming into the sprawling church and farming complex in a morning raid in Anseong, 80 km south of Seoul.

A spokesman for the Gyeonggi province police force said 6,000 officers were involved.

The huge operation came a day after President Park Geun-Hye urged police and prosecutors to step up a manhunt for Yoo Byung-Eun, 72, a leading member of the Evangelical Baptist Church of Korea.

Yoo is the patriarch of the family behind the Chonghaejin Marine Co., the company that owned and operated the 6,825-tonne Sewol passenger ferry which sank on 16 April with the loss of 300 lives, most of them schoolchildren.

“Yoo must be brought to justice,” Park told a cabinet meeting.

He is wanted for questioning on possible charges of embezzlement and criminal negligence, as prosecutors investigate the extent to which the Sewol disaster was caused by a lack of safety standards and regulatory violations.

The raid netted three church followers suspected of helping Yoo evade a nationwide dragnet put in place after he defied an official summons to surrender to prosecutors last month.

Police were searching for 10 more alleged accomplices identified in a warrant that was “also aimed at getting hold of Yoo and his son,” according to a prosecutor.

Ferry company ‘brushed aside’ warnings

Yoo has no direct stake in Chonghaejin, but his children and close aides control it through a complex web of holding companies.

A reward of €360,000 has been offered for information leading to the capture of Yoo and €73,000 for that of his eldest son, Yoo Dae-Kyun.

Police had raided the church complex in Anseong three weeks ago but came away empty-handed, amid reports that Yoo may have fled overseas.

The church followers erected a barricade at the entrance to the complex, but made no move to block the police Wednesday after they forced their way through.

South Korea Ship Sinks Court Hearing Family member cries during court hearing. AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

More than 100 members staged a sit-down protest outside the main gate of the complex, singing hymns and chanting slogans.

One spokesman argued that Yoo was being set up as a fall guy for the Sewol disaster, because the government was unwilling to accept responsibility for regulatory failings that contributed to the tragedy.

“(Prosecutors) should fully investigate the true cause of the accident before arresting Yoo,” he said in statement read out to reporters.

“Our church will give 500 million won (€360,000) for those who reveal the truth behind the accident,” he added.

Yoo has described himself as an artist and photographer, and was once convicted of fraud when a company under his control went bankrupt.

The Sewol’s regular captain, who was off duty on the day of the accident, has told prosecutors that Chonghaejin Marine Co. “brushed aside” repeated warnings that the 20-year-old ship had stability issues following a renovation in 2012.

Five Chonghaejin officials have been arrested on various charges, including criminal negligence and breaches of maritime safety laws.

The police operation also came a day after the trial opened of 15 of the Sewol’s surviving crew.

The captain and three of his senior crew members are charged with “homicide through wilful negligence” and could face the death penalty if convicted.

© – AFP 2014

Read: Murder trial opens for South Korea ferry captain and crew >

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    Mute Errol Thomas
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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:06 PM

    Fantastic news! I’m glad O’Leary can’t pick our national airline apart!

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    Mute Stephen Griffith
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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:35 PM

    I’m not one bit worried about our ‘national’ airline.
    Just need decent competition.

    If Aer Lingus were gone, Ryanair would smash any new entrants to the Irish market.

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    Mute William Grogan
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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:42 PM

    What’s a “National Airline”? Are you a Commie?

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    Mute Eoin Curran
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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:10 PM

    Well done Europe, you made the right decision! Competition is best!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:18 PM

    Ryanair believes everything that goes against it is unfair. The amount of money it spends on litigation is unreal.

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    Mute Rory Conway
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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:56 PM

    Smiley . how much does Ryanair spend on litigation. seeing as though you know ,perhapsyou might share this valuable piece if info. Really want to know.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:48 PM

    Fair comment. No idea. However, it seems to me that every time the CEO hits the headlines he’s whingeing about something being unfair. There have been several examples of his going to court to avoid paying out for something the company’s required to, eg meals on delayed flights, accommodation when flights are cancelled for no apparent reason…

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:55 PM

    Oh you mean like complaining how the airlines had to pick up the tab for disruptions caused by natural phenomonon such as the Icelandic Volcano. Do you think it was fair that the airlines were left out of pocket over this? Do you think Irish Rail would pay your hotel bill if you were stuck overnight in cork due to flooding on railways?? Dont think so!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:58 PM

    @JohnF. Maybe my memory is longer than yours. Many is the incidence of Ryanair complaining of unfairness when regulations are enforced. Don’t hear other airlines making complaints about same regs.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 3:55 PM

    Ok… Maybe a quick reality check as to why almost 80million people fly Ryanair every year. Quck comparison for return fares on destinations both Aer Lingus and Ryanair fly to from Dublin over St Patricks weekend (15th – 18th March)

    Dublin – Malaga
    Aer Lingus 363
    Ryanair 226

    Dublin – Manchester
    Aer Lingus 108
    Ryanair 76

    Dublin – Barcelona El Prat
    Aer Lingus 440
    Ryanair 172

    Dublin – London Gatwick
    Aer Lingus 109
    Ryanair 89

    Dublin – Madrid
    Aer Lingus 239
    Ryanair 193

    All flights are direct, prices as of today 15:50 – skyscanner.ie

    Both Airlines now offer an almost indistinguishable ‘no frills’ service on domestic European routes. Both charged for checked baggage and priority seats, neither offer free in-flight refreshments, both have a strict one bag per person carry on of 10kg max. Aer Lingus operate Airbus A320s on majority of their routes with 18″ Seat Width and 30″ Pitch and have an average fleet age of 7.4 Years.
    Ryanair operate a fleet of Boeing 737-800s standardized with 17″ Seat Width and 30″ Pitch and an average fleet age of 4.5 years.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:01 PM

    Fair play John, wait for the red thumbs though, people can be such hypocrites. They curse Michael o Leary but still fly Ryanair because of the low fares, makes me sick

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:06 PM

    I think we can agree to differ. I am not prepared to be gouged for extras only to be treated like muck as on Ryanair. I travel roughly 20,000 km a year. Tried Ryanair twice and they were rubbish. Delayed flights, scrum for boarding, airports way out of town. Not for me thanks. I like to choose my seat, I like to be treated well by staff, I like to have reasonable luggage allowances. I don’t mind paying an extra €20 for the privilege.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:01 PM

    @John F

    Ryanair
    ————
    Customer service pre/during boarding
    General “Feel” onboard the plane (“TATAAAAAAAAGHHHHH Buy our crappy scratch cards to win”. “TATAAAAAAAAGHHHHH We are the best at timekeeping”)
    Tired and angry looking cabin crew
    15kgs checked in bags

    Aer Lingus
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    Not as great as it used to be, but still okay.. + 20kgs bags..

    I know who I fly with when I have the choice..

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    Feb 12th 2013, 6:12 PM

    Great response John f, the wan€ers with red thumbs don’t have a clue. Probably vote FF as well.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 6:52 PM

    @John F. Your price comparison exercise is exactly what I would do if I were heading away for St Patricks weekend.

    And you know what? I’d still fly Aer Lingus.

    Because AL still respect their passengers. Passengers who appreciate service keep them in business. AL know that. AL listen to the customer. Ryanair do not. AL have cornered that section of the market where quality, not stress, is required. AL are not anonymous or oblivious to their customers. Ryanair are. In fact, for Ryanair, the passenger is a revenue generating ‘item’, devoid of emotion or feeling. Some people don’t have an issue with that, presume you’re one, but I definitely do.

    Plus, I have kids. Why would I put them or myself through the torment.

    I have flown both carriers, and this is my informed decision. Cost is a factor, yes. But so is stress.

    I am a customer. I WANT THAT CHOICE!!! Dont need comparisons, can do that myself thanks.

    So for me, well done Europe!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:08 PM

    It’s completely fair. While Ryanair did address the issues in the Statement of Objections, they did so by essentially creating a front company. Flybe, which is in serious financial debt, would become a Ryanair subsidary. I hope Europe will stand up to them again.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 3:21 PM

    So what exactly do you mean by a front company? Do you actually mean that Ryanair put forward a deal that was accepted by 64% of Flybe’s shareholders? As for Flybe being in serious financial debt, £50m on a turnover of £340m is not out of kilter with the sector. This Commission decision is wholly political and Ryanair have a right to be aggrieved. If a major carrier like British Airways can’t go it alone in this climate, it’s fair to say Aer Lingus’ days are numbered and all this obfuscation is just dog-in-the-manger carry-on. The fact is Ryanair are being penalised precisely because they are competitive. Some people clearly have a soggy sentimental attachment to overpriced shamrock decals because I’ve seen no evidence – in a quarter century of flying – that the National carrier is worth saving.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:58 PM

    “if a major carrier like BA can’t go it alone”???

    I’m not sure what you mean by this, BA bought out the basket case that was Bmi to get their route network and LHR slots. They then joined with Iberia as IAG, BA however are very definitely in the driving seat. its a takeover by another name. But at least BA aren’t going to try to kill off Iberia, unlike the FR plans for EI.

    Just to clarify…..FlyBe Ireland was the front company. Ryanair were guaranteeing in them E20M profits each year for 3 years…..on top of the E100M startup cash. Thats’ a funny way to deal with a ‘competitor’!!

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    Feb 13th 2013, 12:46 AM

    Sorry Sean, your views are somewhat skewed and difficult by any standard to equate with consumer welfare. Ryanair, Flybe and British Airways were all in on the carve up – they actually boasted about it in the run up to today. The forthcoming Commission Decision represents a significant milestone for consumers. The UK Competition Commission are also opposing the purchase of an almost 30% stake that Ryanair now holds in Aer Lingus. Where has Ireland’s Competition Authority been? We might draw your attention to the Irish Competition Authority’s Mission Statement:- “to ensure that competition works well for consumers and the Irish Economy”. Odd that our own regulator has had little or nothing to say on a competition issue with huge reverberations for Irish business and final consumers alike. Follow our views on Twitter.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:13 PM

    Great news! I’ll wait until the official EU verdict and even then Ryanair clearly isn’t going to give up but enough time and money has been wasted by both airlines because of O’Leary’s obvious desire to wipe out Aer Lingus (and Aer Arann in the process) and control the Irish market.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:48 PM

    Wake up the Irish market matters little 2 Ryanair they want a way into America

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:05 PM

    Nellie, the Irish market is extremely important to Ryanair. After Stansted, Dublin is by far its’ busiest base with Dublin-London the busiest route in the Ryanair network by far.

    Why do you feel they need Aer Lingus ( and the Irish market you say that matters little to them ) to start flights to the US?

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:31 PM

    I think you’ll find Joe that Charleroi is Ryanair’s busiest hub

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    Feb 12th 2013, 3:22 PM

    Not sure where you’re getting your info from Ciara, but Stansted is by far their busiest.
    Quick google search:
    http://www.anna.aero/2012/07/18/london-stansted-now-serving-over-150-destinations-as-ryanair-continues-to-grow-network/

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:00 PM

    The Irish market counts for 6 % and decreasing amount of Ryanair business the market has decided that are national carrier has little future as is. Look at its share price stagnant .
    Is o Leary the nicest man on the planet he goes out of his way to annoy people. But he not the devil and pays more tax in thus country than he needs to he Chan air travel for ever. Selling airlinglus to him will make airlinglus a bigger and better airline

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:36 PM

    I am not prepared to be gouged for extras – is that “extras” like food? Choosing the biggest seat etc ?

    only to be treated like muck as on Ryanair.- I’ve never been treated like muck. I’ve flown at least 200 times with Ryanair

    Delayed flights – Nonsense, they have the best on time record of any airline in Europe. As often as not they are EARLY.

    scrum for boarding – no scrum ever. If you don’t want to q, then sit down until the q is gone.

    airports way out of town. – can be an advantage. In Beauvis you get out in minutes. Stansted is as far from London as Gatwick.

    I like to choose my seat – available on Ryanair or simply pay a miserable €5 to get on first.

    I like to be treated well by staff – Ryanair staff are as good as Aer Lingus staff

    I like to have reasonable luggage allowances – they are both the same, Ryanair are more strict. But they have told you that.

    I don’t mind paying an extra €20 for the privilege – from the list above it’s far more than that. I fly both, depends on various factors.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:55 PM

    Nellie I’m not sure you know what you’re saying there? Ryanair and Aer Lingus have over 80% of the market share from Ireland between them, Aer Lingus is very profitable and giving Ryanair a run for their money, Aer Lingus is gaining market share from Ryanair and that’s why ultimately Ryanair want to own Aer Lingus. I don’t call scrapping half of the Aer Lingus routes “building one huge Irish airline”. Ryanair wants rid of their viable competitor, simple as that.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 8:40 PM

    Couldn’t agree more, I fly to the UK every week with Ryanair and in the last year I have only been delayed twice and and never more than an hour. I am effectively able to commute to the UK for c. €50 per week – try doing that with Aerlingus!!!! I really don’t understand why people bitch and moan about Ryanair, they are seriously cheap and virtually always on time!

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    Feb 13th 2013, 9:10 AM

    Ryanair don’t have the planes us slots it’s a way in to the us

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:12 PM

    Good decision.

    Where it to happen, over years it would be bad for competition to / from Ireland.

    Also, the monopoly would be so strong it would be very hard for any new entrant to enter the market.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:56 PM

    I’m delighted. I absolutely love flying with Aer Lingus. I remember arriving in to Dublin from New York for the All Ireland final and the air hostess came on and said good luck to all the supporters young and old arriving home for the All Ireland final. I hadn’t been home in 3 years. Made me very emotional. They have an edge of respect and niceness which is outstanding. I’ve decided to go home in june for another trip and they are by far the cheapest…. through their own website.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:09 PM

    Yes new to it

    Maybe you were nor aware of it but Ryanair don’t do transatlantic. But if they did…… Aer Lingus would probably be cheaper again

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:31 PM

    Ryanair – ever the victim!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:33 PM

    O’Leary the man who is forever slagging off state monopolies now wants to create one for himself . We can’t forget what Ryanair done initially to make flying more affordable for many people, however since then the only thing “Budget” about Ryanair is it’s Customer service! Try booking a flight on any busy route and see how “budget” the prices are,if Aer Lingus was swallowed up we would be rightly screwed. Aer Lingus is now the largest flyer from Dublin Airport,O’Leary should ask himself how and why this happened.
    Ryanair tried to deprive the Irish from a quality low cost service that Aer Lingus provides and replace it with an Airline that is broke and offers a similar “service” to itself !

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:40 PM

    “For the first time in EU airline history, Ryanair delivered not one, but two, substantial upfront EU airline buyers who have agreed to come to Ireland to compete against a combined Ryanair/Aer Lingus..”…………………until when exactly, maybe until they get squeezed back out again, or go bankrupt trying to compete with Ryanair tactics.???
    Good decision.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:18 PM

    Ryanair are runing to the European courts after saying they was out of touch a few weeks ago.What goes around and all that.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:12 PM

    Does Ryan air give its customers a fair hearing when they make a complaint?

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:38 PM

    Great point.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:18 PM

    He might have a better chance of being the next Pope, methinks

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:45 PM

    Not in the running -yet. But you can get 40/1 on Ray Burke.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:05 PM

    Bloody delighted at news Aer Lingus should never be diluted and polluted by that crappy excuse of an airline

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:01 PM

    @peter well here we go. The support O’Leary brigade. Ryanair would not be there if it was not .for a government that gave it cash to survive and took routes off aer lingus. So much for your capitalist free market. O’Leary and his gang would rip the soul out of an Irish institution that at least employes workers direct and pays decent pay. If all the employers were parasites like this company then the world would be a poor place.its fantastic news for Ireland, workers, competition and for decency. Ryanair could be a good company, successful and at the same time treat workers fairly and treat their customers with a little more respect then I would have no problem supporting them. O’Leary should now resign

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:26 PM

    Your probably right gerry

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:17 PM

    Ryanairs biggest problem is O’Leary, motormouth ass that he is. I will fly with anyone except Ryanair.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:43 PM

    You must waste a lot of money. Nice to have it.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:34 PM

    Brilliant news. O’Leary won’t get his hands on a decent airline. Thanks EU at least you got this one right.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:25 PM

    Try and book a flight to Tenerife over the summer with the almighty aer lingus and see what you get. Don’t bother because you can’t. Aer lingus don’t fly there during the summer. Imagine that. Ryanair fly there all year round like an airline should.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:31 PM

    Johnny Reynolds, get your facts straight. before posting on here! Aer Lingus do fly to Tenerife for the whole year out of Dublin!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:33 PM

    Sorry A mcT, didn’t realise there’s only one airport in Ireland. My bad…

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:34 PM

    @ Johnny Reynolds: Aer Lingus fly to Tenerife every Tuesday and Saturday during the summer months.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:37 PM

    Try booking a flight with Ryanair to London Heathrow, Amsterdam Schipol or Paris Charles de Gaulle, so you can make a connecting flight…Swings and roundabouts really. Best to have both airlines meeting different needs I reckon.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:39 PM

    Don’t worry about it Johnny…just to clarify, what you actually said was:

    “Try and book a flight to Tenerife over the summer with the almighty aer lingus and see what you get.”

    If you try to book a flight to Tenerife, you can! Now, if you said out of Cork, I would have agreed with you, but would have told you to just drive up to Dublin and fly from there! Simple really!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:03 PM

    Really? That’s funny, last time I was in Tenerife, we flew there and back with Aer Lingus.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:43 PM

    Oh, so because Aerlingus dont operate one particular route at the time of your choosing? How ridiculous! I like to fly to Munich. Ryanair dont go there from Cork. Or Paris, Amsterdam, Birmingham, Manchester, Berlin, Edinburgh, etc etc

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:50 PM

    Say what you like about O Leary but at least he’s brought competition to the market. You can get to the UK for next to nothing by air compared to traveling by sea.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:56 PM

    Ryanair didn’t bring about low fares. Deregulation did. If we didn’t have Ryanair in Ireland we would have Easy Jet and others. They all embraced the low fares model at the same time.
    Anybody who seriously thinks if it wasn’t for Ryanair we would be paying €300 to fly to London has been intellectually short changed.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:45 PM

    Ryanair have charged me 300 euro one way to get to Stansted in the past.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:52 PM

    As long as you don’t mind being treated abysmally. When you compare prices, after Ryanair have charged all their extras, the difference is so slight as to be worth travelling on Aer Lingus for its service alone.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:47 PM

    Dave, as of 16:45, it’s €200 to fly Cork-LHR today. All airlines charge heavily for last minute flights. However I’ve flown with Ryanair to STN for as little as €60 booking the previous day.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:03 PM

    Sean are you one those people who gives out about Ryanair and then flys with them?

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:29 PM

    Is that a question or a statement? You seem sure I fly Ryanair and you don’t even know me. Explain.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:08 PM

    Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit amphetamines.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:40 PM

    Another factually incorrect headline from the Journal. Thus has not been confirmed by the EU.
    ONLY Ryanair have said the EU intends to block the take over.
    The headline in inaccurate and not yet confirmed. It may yet be true but it is not at this stage.
    Journal comment?

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:50 PM

    Red thumbs?
    Am I wrong?

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:58 PM

    Yes you are correct! The only official word is that Ryanair have said they have been notified that the EU are preparing to block the takeover.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-12/eu-preparing-to-block-ryanair-s-bid-for-aer-lingus-again.html

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:49 PM

    Typical Irish mentality, MOL is whatever name you want to call him because he is successful, like it or not we have better airline prices all over Europe because of Ryanair. How many airlines now follow there example when booking a flight? Where is the competition, look at Ryanair figures and aer lingus figures, no one can say that’s competition. Ryanair is another success story from Ireland and all some people want to do is give out and moan about it, that’s the Irish way.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:07 PM

    Wrong. We have lower fares because of deregulation. Do you really think if Ryanair didn’t come along we would still be paying huge fares to Europe?
    Do you really believe that?
    Do you really believe that if Ryanair had a monopoly they wouldn’t abuse it?
    Tell that the Munster fans who bought cheap flights to the Heineken Cup final a few years ago in anticipation of making the final. When they did and Ryanair realises they lost out in a killing they cancelled the flight and gave refunds only to put the flight back on at much higher prices. I sometimes despair at how naive the public are.
    Perhaps that explains why Fianna Fáil are the most popular party in the country again. Heaven save us. Some people shouldn’t have a vote.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:34 PM

    Sean, it was only an opinion. But Jesus relax yourself. pull back the curtains open the windows let some air in, there’s life outside no need to be so bitter all the time, post something positive will do you good

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:46 PM

    I’m positive but also realistic.
    If this country had a bit more reality we would have realised property prices wouldn’t go up for ever. Ok, this us just a discussion forum and we all have our opinions. There is something seriously worrying when Fianna Fáil are the most popular party in the country a few years after bankrupting the place.
    Getting back to Ryanair. How about the case of the Munster fans? Is this what we want? You buy a ticket to travel and when they realise they can sell it for more they throw the money back at you and sell it for more.
    I wouldn’t let O’Leary run anything.
    He is capable but I wouldn’t trust him for 1 minute.
    You applaud him if you wish.
    I don’t.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:49 PM

    Have to agree there Sean..

    Tried something somewhat similar myself.
    Had a flight booked for 6 months going on holidays. Taken the days off and booked hotel etc etc.
    6 days before the flight got an email telling me that the route had been cancelled and here is my refund.
    Made a promise that day to never fly Ryanair again.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:43 PM

    I’m still unsure…
    Anybody think that it could actually benefit the Irish economy?

    Playing devils advocate:-
    •More tax paid in Ireland based on profits from the whole of its operations.
    •Substantially lower fairs outside of Europe.
    •More tourism, not just to Ireland but Europe as a whole.
    •More job creation for flight crew and in servicing the raft of new aircraft Ryanair would no doubt purchase.
    That’s just a few of the potential benefits and what ever Mr O’Learys motives the one thing you can’t deny is he’s a supporter of keeping things Irish.
    I think the Irish Gov could play a blinder on this if they acted like a business. They could draw up an investment plan for Ryanair to support local airports e.g. Cork or Waterford. The Gov could make this part of any deal over say 10 years. It would certainly benefit the south-east which desperately needs it.
    I think though Ryanair is suffering from the boy who cried wolf syndrome. Time to realize Mr O’leary that there is such a thing as bad advertising.

    Just a thought..

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    Feb 12th 2013, 6:07 PM

    Nice idea Sean but a bit naive…….Ryanair will not allow themselves to be tied into a 10 yer deal on serviced Irish regional airports.

    -EI already pay their tax in Ireland, so shaving off 50% of their routes to FlyBe defeats the irish focus.
    -EI employ Irish staff at more than minimum wage. FR employ staff from all over Europe who do not neccisarily put their cash back into the Irish economy.
    -Ryanair have gradually scaled back their Irish operation in favour of pan-European expansion. EI are completly tied to the Irish market.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 9:27 PM

    Why not, you don’t know that as the Governments position is to ignore any proposal by FR. If they’re offering €100 million and 9 aircraft in sweeteners to other airlines then there is plenty more in the pot for dealing. Naive… A little harsh Jonathan, I think, when I’m only trying to balance a clearly one sided debate. Also the Government has made it clear that they’ll sell their shares in EI to anyone except FR which is, well, naive of the Government and any potential tax income may ultimately leave Ireland and be paid into another European jurisdiction. BTW Flybe Ireland would pay corporation tax in Ireland not the UK.
    EI have only just returned to profit so have paid no tax for many years.
    Staff wise I understand what you’re saying but FR run more planes on existing routes so more planes, more staff, more ground crew, more service staff etc etc and a smart government could facilitate some of this in Ireland. Rather than block successful tax paying businesses – embrace and support them.
    Maybe a different route would be a share deal for Ireland PLC in FR.
    Just throwing it out there…

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    Feb 12th 2013, 6:51 PM

    Give it up Mick

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    Feb 12th 2013, 6:54 PM

    Yeah yi big eejit.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:23 PM

    On RTE news and Sky news the headline reads. ‘Ryanair says the EU intends to block the Aer Lingus takeover’.
    Nowhere else have I read that this decision has been taken, except here.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 8:02 PM

    What about O’Leary for pope?? Although he already thinks he’s a God so the pope position will probably be beneath him.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:45 PM

    Better chance if Ryanair found someone who didn’t pose someone off everyday no matter how right or wrong he is. Ryanair makes nobody fly with them other airlines prices do

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    Feb 12th 2013, 1:49 PM

    Pies someone off daily

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:11 PM

    Take another shot at it Nellie

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:08 PM

    The word is pisist ;-)

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:39 PM

    Thank God !!

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    Feb 16th 2013, 9:41 PM

    It’s good news. If Ryanair were allowed to buy Aer Lingus they would increase travel prices significantly to the detriment of the Irish Tourist Industry. The EU Court did us a favour!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:52 PM

    Sean you also said “Another factually incorrect statement from the journal” if the journal has so many incorrect statements why do you keep coming back? Is it because you like to stir it. Or maybe because your unemployable and you have nothing better to do.

    Explain
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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:54 PM

    Had to double take there sorry! lol

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:18 PM

    I merely pointed out a fact that this story has not been confirmed. It is not true as of yet. Is it a problem that I like to read the truth? I’m not stirring anything and by the way it is irrelevant whether or not I am employed.

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    Feb 13th 2013, 5:17 AM

    It is more expensive to fly from Bristol to Cork, then from Bristol to Lanzarote.

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    Feb 13th 2013, 9:12 AM

    I’d hate to be living here where the only option to get off rain sodden island is Ryanair

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    Feb 12th 2013, 4:50 PM

    Breaking News: Vatican proclaims itself an air exclusion zone.

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    Feb 12th 2013, 5:21 PM

    The EU have just confirmed that NO decision has been made on the matter.
    See RTE…..

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    Feb 16th 2013, 9:42 PM

    Not true!

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    Feb 12th 2013, 2:45 PM

    Sean I said “are you” what else can that mean? Explain

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