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Fianna Fáil leader Micheal Martin Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland

FFers have to pay for stay during party think-in

As Fianna Fáil members meet to discuss the social impact of the recession, they feel the pinch themselves after being asked to pay for their own accommodation.

THERE’S NO SUCH thing as a free lunch – or a free think-in, as Fianna Fáil members have been asked to pay for their accommodation while attending the party conference, which begins today.

Members of the party received a letter in August informing them that there was no alternative but to ask members to pay directly for their hotel bed and breakfast when they attend the two-day conference.

However a Fianna Fáil press spokesperson told TheJournal.ie that not all of the 35 TDs, senators and MEPs who attend will need accommodation as some already have homes in or near Dublin.

The party’s debt currently stands at €2.4 million.

The spokesperson said that people were “certainly happy” to pay for accommodation as they understand the party’s financial situation.

The conference will take place at the Maldron Hotel, Tallaght, in Dublin.

As expected, a number of financial issues will be on the agenda at the think-in, which takes place ahead of the Autumn Dáil session.

Party leader Micheál Martin said:

There is a significant focus on the social impact of the recession at this year’s Parliamentary Party meeting. Issues such as fairness, debt sustainability for families and the personal and social impact of unemployment will all be discussed in detail.
The first session will focus on the economy, examining ways to safeguard the progress that we made in stabilising the public finances and reducing the deficit while continuing to protect key areas of social spending.  The work from the Parliamentary Party meeting will feed into the policy renewal process that is being launched around the country.

The think-in will include a number of workshops, including one on Coping with Recession – A Social Perspective, chaired by Barry Cowen TD, and The Economy – Safeguarding Progress, chaired by Michael McGrath TD.

Willie O’Dea TD will lead the group through a session on jobs and competitiveness.

Meanwhile, it is a year to the week since former Taoiseach Brian Cowen had to deny being hungover during an early-morning radio interview following the conference in Galway.

Read: Cowen denies being hungover on morning radio interview>

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    Mute Shaun Gallagher
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    Dec 26th 2020, 12:44 PM

    I can see more countries leaving with what they got

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    Mute Gerry Ryan
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    Dec 26th 2020, 12:55 PM

    @Shaun Gallagher: But But which other countries have a massive trade deficit with the EU and would grant them free trade and which other countries with massive trade surplus in services would agree to leave without any arrangements for future trade.
    I’m afraid the EU won this one like they’d win others.
    Might won the British Empire but Might won the withdrawal agreement.
    There is no win win in this one. It’s a lose win, game set and match to the EU.

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    Mute David cotter
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    Dec 26th 2020, 1:09 PM

    @Shaun Gallagher: don’t think so Shaun….look at how dreadful a procedure it was and how it divided a country with much bitterness..the effects coming up will hurt the economy big style Even the Italians have gone quite on leaving….

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    Dec 26th 2020, 1:15 PM

    @Shaun Gallagher: EU runs a huge trade surplus with UK, the EU will do well with an FTA.
    Meanwhile UK runs a services surplus with EU, which is not covered by the deal. Services is something like 80% of UK economic activity.

    I’d wait a few years before making predictions.

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    Mute Shaun Gallagher
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    Dec 26th 2020, 1:36 PM

    @Cian Martin: Hopefully but not great for us at all in Donegal with the fishing deal done

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    Dec 26th 2020, 5:00 PM

    @Shaun Gallagher: what exactly did they get that is so good?

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    Mute Mick Tobin
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    Dec 26th 2020, 9:39 PM

    @Monadnock Mc Inselberg: He means they got tariff- and quota free access to the single market without having to respect the main EU principles such as free movement. But as Cian points out the deal leaves out their massive services market (as any EU trade deal does). We’ll have to see how this all plays out. For one British access does not seem to be free forever. But to be fair I’m still waiting for a decent analysis about how precisely this deal protects the EU’s founding principles. I think journalists need some time to flesh it all out. Well, I guess they’ve needed their Christmas too, so I’ll be patient.

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    Dec 26th 2020, 2:31 PM

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/world/europe/brexit-britain-european-union.html#click=https://t.co/Jero9TehFZ

    80% of UK economic activity left out of the deal? City of London looks set for decline, UK financial sector has had its day. Boris took what he was given by the EU and is putting on a light show to distract everyone from the real failure.

    Financial sector runs the UK economy. Food and industry pale in comparison. Disaster for UK. Equivalent to Ireland losing its foreign investment.

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    Mute Ciaran O'Mara
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    Dec 26th 2020, 4:02 PM

    @Attila the Hun: Brits lose the recognition of their professional qualifications in Europe, have to have a visa to live there, will have to pay a travel tax to enter EU from 2022, lose their rights as students to go on Erasmus year, cannot sell services including financial services to EU countries without hindrance, cannot extradite fugitive criminals holed up in the EU back to the UK, have to keep all existing EU rules, have to keep their future regulatory standards in line or face tariffs and quotas.
    Brilliant deal. At least they start to spend £350 million extra each week on the Health service from next week, er don’t they Boris?

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    Dec 26th 2020, 5:26 PM

    @Ciaran O’Mara: Erasmus has been replaced with a far better system that will allow UK Students to travel to & study in any country in the world. The ratio of students from the EU compared to going to the EU was 2 to 1 & the EU doesn’t have a single world class 3rd level education institution while the UK has 5 or 6 & Switzerland the only other European country has 1. Now EU students will have to pay the full cost for studying in the UK just as Americans, Indians & Chinese do.

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    Dec 26th 2020, 6:34 PM

    @Joe Thorpe: that’s the point.. they will go elsewhere.

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    Mute Ciaran O'Mara
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    Dec 26th 2020, 6:46 PM

    @Joe Thorpe: tell that to all the UK students who used Erasmus for the last 33 years.

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    Mute Ken Sullivan
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    Dec 26th 2020, 9:46 PM

    @Ciaran O’Mara: it was Nigel THAT PROMISED THAT AND TJEN DISAPPEARED

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    Mute Declan Fitzsimons
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    Dec 27th 2020, 1:49 AM

    @Joe Thorpe: ‘ the EU doesn’t have a single world class 3rd level education institution’ Joe lad, that’s infantile

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    Mute John Errity
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    Dec 26th 2020, 12:53 PM

    Bye bye eu

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    Dec 26th 2020, 12:57 PM

    @John Errity: Yep

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    Dec 26th 2020, 2:26 PM

    @John Errity: Bye Bye John

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    Dec 26th 2020, 3:03 PM

    @John Errity: where is it going?

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    Dec 26th 2020, 12:57 PM

    So, can I buy goods from UK without paying vat there and here ?

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    Dec 26th 2020, 2:15 PM

    @JillyBean: I think you will pay vat at EU import time. What the UK do is up to them, they are not subjecr to EU vat legislation directly any more

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    Dec 26th 2020, 11:03 PM

    People say the Irish say bad things about the British, but just had the misfortune to read an article in the daily express about david McWilliams and his view of brexit . The level of abuse about this country was unreal . It’s here at https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1376773/Brexit-deal-news-latest-uk-eu-ireland-david-mcwilliams-economist

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    Dec 27th 2020, 12:29 AM

    @Mike Kelly: Sadly typical of many Irish views on the British people, along with gloating for whatever misfortune bestows us.

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    Dec 27th 2020, 1:17 AM

    @Rob Sims: I think you got the wrong end of the kettle , old boy

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    Dec 27th 2020, 8:57 AM

    @Mike Kelly: They are Daily Express readers. That is all!!

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    Dec 27th 2020, 9:03 AM

    @Rob Sims: I wonder why that could be?? Imagine if the EU took all of Britain’s sustainance and watched her people die and emigrate whilst part of the Union? That might cause a wrinkle for a couple of hundred years

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    Mute Mike Kelly
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    Dec 26th 2020, 11:04 PM

    I should of said in the comments section

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