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Fianna Fáil just aren't quite sure how they feel about Fine Gael

Here’s everything you need to know about what’s happening in Irish politics right now…

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Everyone’s talking about…

Fianna Fáil’s differing views on supporting Fine Gael.

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A coalition government consisting of Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael would be a groundbreaking moment in Irish politics.

After decades of opposition, the two civil war parties could come to the conclusion that they’re not so different after all.

Some have warned that it could represent a dangerous lurch towards a polarised political system consisting of left and right in Ireland, something that has been largely avoided for some time.

Right now, this coalition doesn’t seem to be a prospect, but it is starting to appear as though Fianna Fáil don’t quite know what they want.

Speaking to TheJournal.ie yesterday, the party’s social protection spokesperson told us “anything is possible”, and that he would be willing to consider supporting Fine Gael on a vote-by-vote basis.

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He said he would support a government “of whatever persuasion” that would maintain the economic recovery, but do so in a way that it “touches every section of society”.

The party’s new director of elections Billy Kelleher was singing from a different hymn sheet. The Irish Times reports that he has ruled out any support for Fine Gael, while also noting that the party is unlikely to form part of the next government at all.

And Niall Collins, justice spokesperson? He told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that he supports the view of Billy Kelleher and party leader Micheál Martin, but that it is ultimately up to the party’s members to decide on whether to work with Fine Gael, something he believes there is staunch opposition to.

With the election campaign rumbling into action, a concrete approach may be needed fast.

The agenda

  • Questions on Public Expenditure and Reform kick off the day for the Dáil at 9.30am.
  • Leaders’ Questions takes place at midday.
  • That’s followed by Order of Business at 12.21pm on the dot.
  • At 3pm there will be statements on developments in mental health services under the current government.
  • Topical issues will be discussed at 4.42pm.
  • The Seanad will take a look at the National Cultural Institutions Bill 2015 from 12.45pm, and the Legal Services Regulation Bill 2011 at 1.30pm.
  • At 11.15am the Health and Children committee will discuss the use of assistance dogs in Ireland.
  • Minister Michael Noonan will continue thrashing out Budget 2016 at the Finance committee from 10am.
  • The annual report of the Comptroller and Auditor General will be analysed by the Public Accounts Committee at 10am.

Inside Leinster House

TDs and senators are likely to be a little bit more careful today of what they’re saying close to a live microphone.

What the others are saying

  • Michael Noonan said the situation in the property market started to look “a little scary” earlier this year, The Irish Times reports.
  • The paper also reports that Sinn Féin has been criticised for supporting the transfer of welfare cuts to Westminster from Stormont.
  • RTÉ News reports that President Michael D Higgins expressed his “incredible grief” at the high rate of suicide among Travellers.
  • The banking inquiry is in crisis, the Irish Independent reports, as members become frustrated with a ‘weak and confusing’ draft report.
  • Minister James Reilly is insisting that universal health insurance remains part of government policy, the Irish Examiner reports.

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Austerity Alliance-People Before Profit party. Off the back of good poll results at the weekend, they’re now setting their sights on being better recognised by polling companies as a viable party.

Bad day for…

Banking inquiry chairman Ciaran Lynch. The last thing he needs in getting the inquiry over the line is opposition from members to  the committee’s progress, as reported by the Irish Independent.

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    Mute EndaTheLunatic
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:06 AM

    “After decades of opposition, the two civil war parties could come to the conclusion that they’re not so different after all”

    Yep for all the wrong reasons.

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    Mute Shane McGettrick
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:43 AM

    Well, the same old reason actually….ker-ching

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    Mute Dot Com
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    Nov 19th 2015, 11:15 AM

    I think the technical term for this is, Hedging your bet.

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    Mute Tony Skillington
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    Nov 19th 2015, 1:47 PM

    I wonder who’s be mammy and who’d be daddy?..,

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    Mute Denis Maher
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:20 AM

    FF would consider hitler,stalin or pol pot it it was an option to get back on the mercs & perks so going in with a village idiot shouldn’t fluster them too much, imo.

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    Mute Peadar Ó Gréacháin
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:37 AM

    In the photo, take away the eyes, nose and lips, you have two cheeks of the same a.r.s.e

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    Mute Con ODomhnaill
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:13 AM

    Fine Fáil/Fianna Gael are a match made in political heaven. This party supports water charges, water metering and the Property/Bondholder Tax

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    Mute Sam Bartell
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:14 AM

    2 cheeks, same arse

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    Mute Periguin
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:53 AM

    and between those cheeks sits labour.

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    Mute Fifty Shades of Sé
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:24 AM

    “Some have warned that it could represent a DANGEROUS lurch towards a polarised political system consisting of left and right in Ireland”

    Heaven forbid the Irish people get an actual CHOICE on how they want to be governed. That’s not how democracy is supposed to work.

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    Mute Zandranalily
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:21 AM

    A FG/FF coalition described as ‘groundbreaking’ . Maybe so, but there are many more accurate and appropriate words to describe it. ‘Disastrous’ and ‘Catastrophic’ spring to mind.

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    Mute Mr Phil Officer
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:55 AM

    The clenching of the cheeks.

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    Mute Kieran OKeeffe
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:21 AM

    Fine Gael proudly doing their best to honour the tradition of never..never..not even once being re elected..

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    Mute Kieran OKeeffe
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:28 AM

    If Dane gets a separate polling card for all his personalities,must be a dozen votes…

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    Mute B-Egan
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:11 AM

    ” Bruce Jenner Caitlin Jenner” “Caitlin Jenner Bruce Jenner” who knows same thing though.

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    Mute de la Rey
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:32 AM

    To save FF the anguish of having to make this hard decision just don’t vote for them (or FG).

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    Mute willr
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:37 AM

    Minority governments never last long. Look at Portugal for a recent classic example. Oh, the old reliable “no viable alternative” response from Powerabbey. The line used by desperate failed politicians to scare the sheep. The people will decide if there is an alternative. NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE or TINA… Why is it that whenever I read those lines I see weak feeble sheep being happily lead to the slaughterhouse. It’s that thinking that got Ireland successive governments of corrupt, incompetent, self serving, good for nothing, jobs for the boys cronyism leadership that has destroyed the country. Such blind fear of change you would sooner live on your knees than stand on your feet and demand change. FG and FF need a few years in political wilderness together to see the Irish people don’t need either. It will be a humbling experience for both parties

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Nov 19th 2015, 10:28 AM

    Both these criminal parties would get into bed with the Devil just to get re-elected and get their hands on nice fat pensions when they are eventually turfed out.Since the beginning of the state these crooks have kept the Irish people in their grasp, what have either of these two orgsnisations ever done foe the country anyway?

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    Mute Kieran OKeeffe
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    Nov 19th 2015, 10:28 AM

    Well Conor,if you rule out the one that drove us off a financial cliff,and the invisible one who likes getting petted like a poodle..it does narrow it down a bit..

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    Mute Donal Hogan
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    Nov 19th 2015, 10:55 AM

    I’d vote for hitlers nazi party before I would ever vote ff.

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    Mute Dane Tyghe
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:07 AM

    You should vote for Fine Gael folks to avoid uncertainty and instability. Fine Gael have done a tremendous job in government, 135,000 new jobs, fastest growing economy in Europe. Leading and securing the recovery.

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    Mute Thomas Mac Donagh
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:09 AM

    i wholeheartedly agree. FG all the way :)

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    Mute B-Egan
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:13 AM

    All the way to the Reinstag. Goosey goosey step step.

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    Mute EndaTheLunatic
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:13 AM

    Yes Fine Gael have done a great job looking after their friend DOB and the likes, not looking after the homeless, doing nothing about the HSE, the list is endless, lying to get elected and as for Pinocchio Kenny need I say more

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    Mute Con ODomhnaill
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:14 AM

    Where do you get your tablets from Dane? I want some. I want some.

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    Mute Martin Critten
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:27 AM

    Had this debate yesterday; you can have the fastest growing economy in Europe statistically, when that percentage growth is based on a much smaller initial sum, than where we were at before. When will the silent majority look beyond the cosmetics. In reality we are doing well a massive hole. Those jobs, are cosmetic too, based on the 2 billion spent each year on IDA and Enterprise Ireland, plus the tax breaks and grants. And when that’s done with they’d be off, so where’s the long-term security. Pumping up FG as some sort of savior is also brainless given that it still sponsors, dodgy deals, cronyism and nepotism of the highest order.

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    Mute Tap Solny
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:33 AM

    I would be inclined to agree that FG should be returned. They could be supported by any other party or groupings excluding, of course, IRA/SF.

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    Mute Tom Dunne
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:37 AM

    Actually it’s Reichstag if you are referring to the old German parliament in Hitler’s time.

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    Mute Motherofdivinejebus
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:55 AM

    Good man tap, you never fail to disappoint, You can always be counted on to rock up with your SF/IRA rants on any topic imaginable, I reckon you are going to go into a spectacular meltdown come April 2016, when the majority of people will be talking about the “rising”.
    You`ll probably poo your Union Jack Jocks.

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Nov 19th 2015, 1:08 PM

    Thomas we will see by February if you have the same view by then… When the country is ok it is the government but when it does badly it is the markets??? O yes…

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    Mute BERTIE
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    Nov 19th 2015, 11:40 AM

    Not that I like mr Adams, but it would be worth seeing him as T just to see Mehole and Dougal squirm

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Nov 19th 2015, 1:06 PM

    What a lovely couple…. Of school teachers… Makes me sick…

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    Mute james r
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    Nov 19th 2015, 12:08 PM

    Good god …

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    Mute Conor McNamara
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    Nov 19th 2015, 9:51 AM

    If the choice for taoiseach is between Gerry Adams Micheal Martin and Enda Kenny it’s not much of a choice

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