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IAG can still buy 75% of the EI and the government would have no control in what they do with slots, staff, strategy or aircraft. At least by selling they get some guaranteed.
I suspect we will regret this decision in a few years when Aer Lingus starts losing to bigger competition and will then be not as attractive to a buyer. We would then get a much lower sale price.
Under M&A rules in most markets once a share holder gains a certain percentage of the shares all other parties must sell to them, wonder is that the case here
Also assuming IAG did get majority control could the government exercise any blocking vote? I.e would he gov just be a minority shareholder with limited / no influence
Jason.., and what about your beloved Ryanair? They might not want to sell because of the increased competition that any takeover may bring- the airline business in Ireland needs to get as competitive as it is in the Uk
Not true, the law passed paving the way for Aer Lingus to be floated on the stock market, stated that the government would have to pass another law if Aer Lingus wanted to sell Heathrow landing slots.
Eoin nope, any law of that nature would collapse under EU rules it’s why the Bermuda 2 agreement collapsed and it is how secondary trading of Heathrow slots was established.
Protect, if you were keeping up you would know that FR are being forced to sell their shares down to a 5% holding by the UK regulator and that they’ve been hawking the EI shares around for years now looking for a buyer. They’d take the hand of IAG at this price offering.
Jason do the pilots not own something like 7% of the shares and have said they won’t sell? The rest of the staff have another slice. Etihad won’t sell their 3% if the government keep their stake.
So you’ve upto near 40% there
Actually a 5.7% fall in passenger numbers in Jan 2015, a massive pensions issue to deal with, dwindling. Cash reserves and an ageing fleet that requires updating!
Oh and in since 2001, it has made a net after tax profit off, 4.5 million euro!
Yeah right!!! It doesn’t need to be sold onto a company like IAG. Iberia made a pre tax profit loss of over €350 million. The government should hold onto its stake and have some control over the airline. Aerlingus did make profits of over €61 million in 2014. IAG are not interested in Dublin, Shannon, Belfast or Cork. Irelands main hub will just become another regional airport like Glasgow or Birmingham. Ireland will lose out if this sale goes ahead, higher prices for everyone.
They actually downgraded their profits forecast for 2014. Again on the last 10 years they have a net after tax profit of 4.2 million euro! And a 5.7% drop in passenger numbers for Jan this year
Again, huge pension hole to fill, relying on interest from it’s billion euro flotation, which they have a mere 300 million in cash left. Oh and a quickly ageing fleet that will need updating!
The main reason for this reduction in passenger numbers is because Aer Lingus cut it short haul/Regional capacity. Aer Lingus long-haul passenger numbers were up 22% compared to the same month last year. IAG has a combined BA/Iberia pension deficit of £3 billion.
Who says IAG is the best people to buy it? It can not survive solely on long haul routes and all need more than North American routes to survive long term
They don’t just survive on long haul routes, they fly to a large number of European destinations. And with the expansion into the US and Canada this will help the airline grow even more. The company made profits of over €61 million last year. With much lower fuel costs the airline could double those profits this year.
Mike it’s passenger numbers fell by 5.7% in January, it requires all it’s routes to be growing to be profitable.
And again since 2008 it has made a 60 million loss after tax last year available it made a NET PROFIT of 31 million half of what you are claiming. Aer Lingus is not tax exempt!
Of course they pay taxes on that but they still made a profit. Better than a loss eh, you’re quoting figures from 2008. The year of the crash, bailout year, 7 years ago……. The airline is back in profits and growing this year. Like i said the airline cut its winter capacity on short haul/regional routes. This is why they carried slightly fewer passengers. It makes sense to reduce services at this time of year. What company wants to fly planes half empty to lose money.
It made half the profit you stated, it is a small airline highly exposed to fuel price changes ( notice they still apply a fuel surcharge to all US flights). And highly exposed to a single small market
The have issues that will come home to roost soon, pensions and fleet upgrades.
And they have managed to burn through 700 million from their flotation without addressing either of the above issues they have had 400 million on losses since 2001! And approx 404 million on profit years!
Long term figures show a sucker picture than cherry picking good years
If AIG bid fails it will have nothing to do with the govt protecting slots,,, it will be down to labour party fearing the loss of seats in North Dublin,,,,Expect FG/Lab to do a deal after the next election if they have enough seats to form govt………As will be the case with Irish Water when FG pal auld Dinny O B gets handed it on a plate
Major mistake by govt not to sell. Aer Lingus is a small regional airline just as Michael O’Leary has said and if not taken into the IAG fold will disappear in a few years. When it begins to lose money again, the government cannot subsidise it. It leases most of its aircraft and they are begining to need replacement. Major investment is needed in Aer Lingus.
He’s right on all those points Ronan, Aer Lingus are extremely vulnerable from above and below them. Their short haul fleet will require big investment in a few years time. They have new long haul jets on order which will have to be paid for. Remember, the state can own but is not allowed to pour capital into an airline, and rightly so, under EU rules.
Aer Lingus could decide to lease out the lot of their Heathrow slots in the morning and the government would be able to do nothing. Under this deal they had certainty for five years. In any case, the Heathrow slots issue is way overblown. They were a way bigger deal ten or fifteen years ago. Nowadays, you can use out of Ireland any of the other major European hubs, North American hubs or Dubai & Abu Dhabi
Thats it, im off to the apocolypse bunker, the world must be coming to end an end if the government are turning away money by making a sensible decision to keep aerlingus.
Clever money would have bought shares 6 months ago. During the summer shares were trading at 1.30 p s. Even at €2 those shares are still worth good money.That said , the govt would be prepared to screw Dublin airports growing transatlantic business ( 2.1 million last year ) just to save a few flights from their precious west coast to Heathrow. All in the ” national” interest of course… What a bunch of parochial goombeens…
With WOW low cost airline offering low fares to the US and Ryan ain’t planning to also offer the route maybe it is time to re asses the value of Aer Lingus
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