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Policing Authority says relationship between gardaí and students 'significantly deteriorated' in recent months

Students reported being fined for being on a walk within their 5km and having food deliveries stopped and checked for purchases of alcohol.

THE POLICING AUTHORITY has said the relationship between gardaí and some students has “significantly deteriorated” in recent months and is now characterised by feelings of “distrust, harassment and fear”.

In its latest report, the authority said students spoke about feeling “fear and nervousness” around dealing with gardaí in their area.

Students reported to the authority that based on recent experiences with gardaí they were confused about their rights but increasingly reluctant to assert them for fear of being ‘cuffed and fined’.

“Interactions with gardaí were described as premised on an assumption that first and foremost as a student you were up to no good. Those spoken to referenced many examples each, of interactions they believed to be unfair and not based on an accurate interpretation of the restrictions,” the authority said.

“Students were increasingly unlikely to contest fines with gardaí as it was ‘easier to just take the fine’. These included students who were reported as being fined for being on a walk within a 5km radius of home, being told that a walk was not a necessary journey, being turned back from going to a nearby shop for food and negative interactions at checkpoints.

“There were also reports of food deliveries being stopped and searched prior to delivery to check for purchases of alcohol as well as reports that houses were entered to break up gatherings. This is in contrast to the experience heard on other campuses whereby gardaí would wait outside as a house cleared of visitors.”

The Policing Authority said the prevalence of examples given was used to support the contention that all students are now being policed in a manner that assumes they are all breaching the restrictions or that they intend to.

“It was remarked that the 3Es [engage, explain, encourage] had been working for the majority of students but that a sole focus on the 4th E [enforce], while appropriate for those who were breaching the restrictions, was now being applied in a blanket ‘power trip’ fashion,” the authority said.

The students were clear in articulating an understanding of the need for the restrictions and the need to enforce the restrictions. They cited examples of where they had contacted the local gardaí to alert them to impending gatherings. In their view, the calls were not responded to in good time and it meant that the events had escalated significantly by the time the gardaí arrived.

“The long term fear expressed was that ‘students won’t forget’ and that there has been significant damage done to the perception, trust and confidence in the Garda Síochána. This in turn was cited as likely to deter students from reporting crime to the gardaí.”

The authority also reported that those working with migrants – documented and undocumented – made reference to both positive and negative experiences of policing performance, including “a perceived lack of empathy and understanding” experienced by some migrants in their interactions with gardaí in stations.

‘Reporting of domestic abuse’

The report noted that engagements with organisations that work with domestic abuse victims have continued to give positive feedback on garda engagement. 

“The divisional protective services units, now present in each garda division, are highly regarded as offering an experienced, expert and victim-centred service to those who come forward to report,” the authority said.

“Operation Faoiseamh [the Covid community engagement response] is credited with having encouraged reporting amongst men and women. There is an emerging sense of the strengthened relationships that have developed between the Garda Síochána and the groups and organisations working in this area at a local level, and the opportunities now arising from those relationships.”

Responding to the report, Minister for Justice Helen McEntee said she welcomed the work gardaí have done in reaching out to domestic abuse victims.

“I acknowledge the very real challenges for Garda members in maintaining that public confidence during this prolonged period of public health restrictions,” she said.

She acknowledged the Policing Authority’s role in assessing where An Garda Síochána “can do better”, referencing the reported negative experiences of some in migrant and student communities.

“However, I have seen how gardaí have constantly addressed the challenges, how they have adapted and how they have been resilient in delivering for the public in the face of risk and uncertainly. I would like to thank the women and men of An Garda Síochána for their continued exemplary public service,” she said.

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    Mute Thomas Harrington
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    Apr 20th 2021, 7:51 PM

    1) Cops only go after the easy stops
    2) students need to grow a pair

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    Mute Big Smokey
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    Apr 20th 2021, 8:12 PM

    @Thomas Harrington: honestly have never seen students complaining. Only people complaining about students.

    Also I don’t see how it’s acceptable to say “grow a pair” when students are getting regular fines of €75 when they don’t have any income.

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    Mute Brian Lyons
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    Apr 20th 2021, 8:46 PM

    @Thomas Harrington: if they only go after the easy stops who is filling the jail’s with the terrorists, murderers, organised gangs ?

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    Mute Pat Casey
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    Apr 20th 2021, 8:04 PM

    If those little scrotes weren’t having house parties and super spreader get togethers they would have no problems with the guards.

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    Mute Lily Martin
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    Apr 20th 2021, 9:29 PM

    @Pat Casey: maybe read the article

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    Apr 20th 2021, 7:52 PM

    Policing Authority trying to justify their existence again. I can understand the role of GSOC but the policing authority seems like a complete waste of time

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    Mute O Hiongardail Collie
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    Apr 20th 2021, 8:13 PM

    The policing authority…… They don’t want body cams because that would be spying on the community says it all really

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    Mute Diarmuid O'Braonáin
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    Apr 20th 2021, 8:08 PM

    “People should not be afraid of their government, government should be afraid of their people”

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    Mute merely ed
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    Apr 21st 2021, 12:35 AM

    @Diarmuid O’Braonáin: they are… thats why we have the police. You don’t think they’re there for us, do you?!

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    Mute plug
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    Apr 20th 2021, 7:58 PM

    low hanging fruit is always the tastiest.

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    Mute Garreth mc mahon
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    Apr 20th 2021, 8:00 PM

    @plug: depends on who’s plums you’re tasting

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    Mute merely ed
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    Apr 21st 2021, 12:31 AM

    @plug: True that… sure most garda never even see an actual criminal. It goes…
    Order of engagement:
    Drug users (non supply)
    Low level drug mules/ growers
    Students
    Road users
    Actual criminals (low level)
    White collar
    Government corruption
    Other police (usually abusive partners… although realistically this would be much further down)

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    Mute Darren Carroll
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    Apr 20th 2021, 8:34 PM

    And yet no fines for people attending golfgate

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    Mute OnlyHereForTheComments
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    Apr 21st 2021, 12:14 AM

    @Darren Carroll: bit difficult since fines for breaching travel restrictions only came into effect in January 2021, but hey! Whataboutery, am I right?!

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    Mute merely ed
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    Apr 21st 2021, 12:37 AM

    @OnlyHereForTheComments: well you’re certainly leaning that way…

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    Apr 20th 2021, 9:34 PM

    if students behaved they wouldn’t have this issue.

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    Mute Jæ Zucula
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    Apr 20th 2021, 10:13 PM

    @larry bird: and for you! What about read the article? I promise you won’t take that long.

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    Apr 20th 2021, 10:51 PM

    I do have sympathy for students as depicted in the article and yes the pandemic has introduced a changed interface between the gardai and the public. Some gardai behave in an authoritarian manner arising out of new powers the government sanctioned , for a people who have always known policing by consent, this change in attitude is difficult to take on board, it will be good when sanctions are withdrawn and policing returns to normal, no more heavy handed rules and interrogation of people just trying to live their lives.

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    Mute Tomo
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    Apr 21st 2021, 9:10 AM

    @Honeybee: The Gardai will always feel entitled to interrogate you at any checkpoint from this point onwards, regardless of the law. Sure, I was out walking once in the park a few years ago and they wanted to randomly search my bag, know all my details… I just asked “why?” and they responded “because we’ll arrest you if you don’t tell us”. Gardai are disgusting to deal with as a young person.

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    Apr 21st 2021, 9:06 AM

    Gardaí will only target those they can pick on. Older people can break the 5km all they like and have far fewer consequences. Students (within their 5km) have been fined so many times (anecdotally). It’s the same with drugs – they’ll pick on harmless people for smoking a joint and won’t go after real drug dealing criminals.

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    Apr 21st 2021, 9:15 AM

    I really don’t think Irish people fully understand the implications of all these restrictions, having the longest lockdown in the world, and having people in fear of arrest or fine just from seeing a police officer. These have long term consequences down the line. Just one example is, as mentioned in the article, if young people start seeing Gardai as the aggressor, they’re could end up not reporting crime to the Gardai.

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    Apr 21st 2021, 12:02 AM

    The Garda, not all, are incorrectly perceived as being desk jockeys who turn a blind eye to common dangerous misdemeanors such as cyclists with no lights on their bikes, cyclsts breaking red lights and less dangerous but, just as annoying, dog owners not being fined for not picking up their dog’s excrement (nothing quite beats walking in dog s%it and bringing it home on your shoes).

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    Apr 20th 2021, 10:22 PM

    As Alexei Sayle once said “I hate fooking students, even when I was a student I hated fooking students”

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    Mute Jæ Zucula
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    Apr 20th 2021, 10:18 PM

    So there you have! I’m not a student and i can tell that what written in this article doesn’t surprise me at all.
    Anyway, people refuse but the truth of since 2020 “End does justify the means”.

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