Israel have constructed excellent missile defences to save lives.

If such defences did not exist and the Palestinian rockets hit their targets and killed hundreds of Israeli civilians, would that make this into a more just and palatable war for you?

For about the 100th time jenni, this story is regarding the massacre in Palestine. What is happening in Syria is beyond awful. However a conflict taking place in Syria dies not absolve Israeli action. “Look at Syria, they are worse than us” that argument is sick to be honest.

Three of the 36 were Israeli soldiers killed by “friendly fire”. So should more correctly be tallied with Israels kill count.

@ Chris and for the 100 th time, 900 people is not “obliteration”.

I think the 900 people who were obliterated would disagree! :-)

@jenni, you cannot take this massacre in isolation! Israel are responsible for thousands of civilian deaths since it’s creation in 1948. I am not getting involved in symatics with you as it belittles the criminal actions of the z1onist entity and of their responsibility under international law.

@jenni, it’s not 900 “people” It’s 80% women, children and the elderly. A child is killed every hour for the last two weeks by your beloved country. Have some respect..,

Gaza is an occupied area , under international law the occupying government has a right to defend itself as in Israel has a right to defend itself from Hamas but also under the same law , the occupying government has to maintain law & order in the occupying area which Israel are not doing , plus they are responsible for the Palestinians welfare but instead Israel are murdering them , I think they are purposely targeting children , Israel are out to destroy Hamas even if it means thousands of children will die .

Since they were mostly unarmed civilians would slaughter be a better word for you?

The only reason the casualty list is so one sided is that Israel have one of the best defensive systems in the world. Hamas would kill innocent civilians but the bus load if they could.
That’s not defending Israel I am totally against what they have done and I condemn them for that but I also believe that Hamas need to be brought to account for their crimes too.
This is not a good guy bad guy fight.
This is two bad guys hurting innocent people.

Jenni yes many innocent Gazans have perished from Israeli fire but how many of the current total of dead were actual Hamas or other militants that Hamas spoon fed to the humanitarian observers as innocents?.

Even going to the lengths of creating a fake video to court world sympathy, nothing is beyond these madmen.

So what do you call the slaughter of 900 people Jenni? Collateral damage? Sick.

Jenni no real point trying to argue the point with any of them on here, they don’t care about Syria or Isis murdering Christians and creating a Islamic state in Irag, they only care about hating Israel! They have found their mouthpiece and it is the journal comments section as there is no moderation by journal staff or they turn a blind eye to abuse of posters who support Israel!

Finally someone makes sense, too much mob mentality

My comment was for William

And Chris

@Mac the article is about Gaza not Syria or ISIS

@mac ready, total unadulterated hogwash!!! People are rightly entitled to be angry at Israel’s wanton destruction of Palestine and it’s people! Your whataboutery is feeble, too many children have been butchered and and the z1omist entity will be rightly called to account by right thinking people throughout the world. You cannot and WILL NOT! hide behind the flag of anti semitism. IT WILL NOT WORK THIS TIME!! Too many innocent children have been slaughtered! Israel are a pariah state who’s actions disgrace the memory of the holocaust to advance their Z1onist agenda. That is shameful!

@chris .. I agree 100% , Hamas are hiding rockets among hospitals putting innocent lives in danger. But Israel should not be bombing these from the air , they have little regard for human life and it’s wreckless . In my opinion this is not gonna end until Hamas are destroyed , then who will defend the Palestine people . Russia backed a UN council to investigate Israel’s war crimes and the USA has looked to abolish this council and support Israel , I have to ask who is the real villain .. Putin or Obama ??

You really are a sick individual person Jenni. Israel is butchering family’s by the hundreds and you come here with your clap trap try to defend them. I hope you never have a goodnight sleep again. Apologist for child murders. Don’t go away mad just fuk off

@ bpa

Please don’t swear at me. It’s unnecessary within a debate and shows poor character. I have always said that the death of the innocent civilians (children, women and men) is absolutely horrendous but when someone says they’re being obliterated I have to step in and point out the exaggeration. And this nonsense about it’s not about Syria? Well it’s not about S Africa either but you lot can’t help yourselves.

And btw the embassy is closed on the sabbath so no I’m not working overtime. If you or anyone else tries to discredit me by calling me a shill , etc I will report you to the journal for abusive behaviour.

Good woman jenni , some ppl on this are rude & ignorant .. If u don’t agree with them , they resort to name calling . No need for it !!

Dont bother reporting anything to the Journal.ie staff.Thy do nothing about it bar ban people they themselves dont agree with.Be pro liberal leftwing here you can be as abusive as you want.Be conserative or not in agreement,type something wrong and get a complaint from some lefty and you are banned from the site.

Sometimes I’m embarrassed sharing my pro palistine/anti Israeli foreign policy views on on here because I might be accosiated with some of the above clowns. Some of the abusive, over the top hysterical comments really make me cringe!

This will stop when Hamas stops firing rockets at Innocent Israeli civilians, they started this conflict and they couldn’t care less about the suffering and deaths, they seek the destruction of Israel and will stop at nothing to achieve this.

Surely not Charles. Shylock is apparently a perfectly reasonable representation of current Jewry. Sure, so what if there is a little bit of Jew caricature thrown into the debate – isn’t it all part of the effort to protect Palestinians? It’s all good then.

@jurgen. My thoughts exactly.

Ablitive … Hamas built the tunnels for their civilians safety? I’ve heard it all now…

Tunnels have been used for smuggling essential supplies into Gaza from cut off borders

One of the best documentaries …http://www.gazatunnels.org/

Does it explain what ‘essentials’ are smuggled into Israel too?

“The blockade of the Gaza Strip has caused a shortage of certain basic products, especially construction materials, fuel, some consumer articles, and medicines and medical supplies.Import restrictions, including of basic building materials, have led to the proliferation of tunnels under the border with Egypt. As Israel limits the Palestinian freedom of movement, for most Gazans the tunnels are the only way to move from and to Gaza”. Source Wiki.

@jenni, Hamas have every right to store weapons. If I was living beside a neighbour that was blockading me having stolen my land and taken my rights away, I would resist, wouldn’t you?? Wouldn’t anyone???

@ Chris … The op tried to make it out that the tunnels are merely to protect it’s people. You and I know that this is total bs

Resistance is NOT terrorism…

http://s28.postimg.org/6plfmi7sd/Resistance.jpg

The Gaza strip is an area of land approximately one-tenth the size of county Clare with a population almost twice that of Dublin. It is essentially an internment camp, where the interned cannot leave and cannot go anywhere. Over time and out of necessity the Palestinians have become possibly the most proficient tunnelers on the planet.. At one time it was estimated that there were 1200 tunnels going from the Gaza Strip into Egypt.

“A wide variety of goods are transported through the tunnels, from construction materials to food, medicine, clothes, fuel, computers, cattle and cars. The annual value of the goods transported through the tunnels is estimated by the International Crisis Group at between $500 and $700 million. The annual cost of the goods smuggled from Egypt to Gaza is $1 billion.

The tunnels used to meet about 60 per cent of Gaza’s needs. According to a study examined by Britain’s Guardian newspaper, 65 per cent of the Strip’s flour, 98 per cent of its sugar and 52 per cent of its rice comes through the tunnels.http://www.globalresearch.ca/egypt-gaza-tunnels-the-lifeline-under-threat/5357937

@jenni, something we agree on for once, however tunnels are also used to counteract the siege. I truly believe that Israel also want to tighten the blockade by destroying the tunnels and they are also using the excuse of destroying weapons stores in order to tighten the siege. It is not black and white.

Sean when the Palestinians had reasonable freedom of movement before the 2nd intifada where they kept blowing themselves up in restaurants, hotels, discotheques, open markets, not to mention crowded buses and Israeli civilians on vacation etc etc etc.

Is it any wonder that Israel wants to restrict their freedom of movement?, give these animals an inch and they will take a mile, and hundreds more innocent Israelis will be killed, but of course as long as you’re demonising Israel this simple fact will be conveniently ignored by the Palestinian lackeys for their totally one-sided propaganda purposes..

More like smuggling arms and rockets thru to the glorious freedom fighters Hamas and associated head bangers who use btheir own pouplation for human shields.Funny Israel was pesterd to deliver cement to Gaza to build “humanitarian projects”.Said cement wasnt used for schools,hospitals or whatever.It was used for bunkers and arms tunnells supplied by Irish roadstone cement.So take a bow Ireland we are now offically supplying war material as well to conflict zones.

Yet funnily that is the image everyone wants of him.Flannagan bitterly regretted those comments he made until his dying day and asked numerous times for absolution from the cheif rabbi of Ireland for the hurt he had caused.But we’ll forget that little ditty as inconvient .

The Palestinian economy is far more dependent on US aid than either Israel or Egypt.

@Jenni
I think we can all agree that the Rafah border does not open unless the US and Israel agrees to it. Egypt are just ‘following orders’

Good for you Emily. First time I’ve seen that mentioned. What that aid is used for is important to note too.

@Emily
Why is that so Emily?
Why do the Palestinians in Gaza have to rely on aid at all?

Excellent Yossi.

@Yossi – I know you want the answer to be “Israel” but it’s a bit more complicated than that. When Israel pulled out of Gaza it left behind viable businesses. For example there was a decent fruit growing industry complete with hundreds of production sized greenhouses. Hamas demolished them.

The PA’s finance minister is on record as saying that economics are far less important than the territorial claims. Sabre rattling is much sexier than the boring business of nation building, of course. Whatever Palestine’s external problems, it’s intellectually dishonest to ignore the far bigger internal ones.

“Israeli Settlers Demolish Greenhouses and Gaza Jobs”

By STEVEN ERLANGER
New York Times
Published: July 15, 2005

It won’t be too long before they will steal the Gas from Russia..

Guys seeing as you will be at the protest. Can you ask the Palestinian people at it to unillaterally request that Hamas stop firing rockets in Israel, to give up these terrorists that are funded by Qatar and armed by Syria to send a strong signal to Israel that they are serious about peace and a shared future?

Hole ./ Pol… Who funds the Syrian rebels? You obviously have a good insight6. Is there a revelation we should know about. Please enlighten the populace

Sorry but when did Yossi Mac become the authority and voice of the Irish people on Journal.ie

I don’t see why I have 6 red thumbs and counting. It is a legitimate question. We had a banking bailout of 70bn+ in this country and people stayed quiet. But when Israel gets bombarded with rockets for the best part of a decade and retaliates there is public uproar and the masses get out on the street. It is sad to see people hurt by war but common sense would suggest that they give up known terrorists in Gaza and move towards peace. Afterall peace is what everyone has been doing die in protests for?

Or either tired of the jams or is a troll or hasnt answered himself, so….. why do you answer for him/her

Ur just a dick

Yossi i just thought your comment was a bit racist. Like a lot of your anti semitism above.

Hi there Pol me hole. Im sure you have a reason for such vitriol.
I must say, I have never been acccused of racism before, particularly against the Scots, and I specially have never been accused of anti semitism, specially as Im Jewish, but maybe you know better than me what is Aunty semitism, or even uncle semitism.
Enjoy the traffic jams…. Bitch

Love you too Stevie