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'GHB is a killer, I know of eight men who died after taking it'

Concerns have also been raised about people being sexually assaulted while taking drugs such as GHB.

MORE NEEDS TO be done to track sexual assaults and deaths related to chemsex in Ireland, one expert has said.

Noel Sutton of the Gay Health Network (GHN) said he knows of at least eight men who have died after taking G in the last two years, including five in Ireland and three Irish men abroad.

Chemsex is the use of drugs such as GHB/G, crystal methamphetamine, ketamine and mephedrone to enhance and prolong sexual activity. The practice is usually, but not exclusively, associated with men who have sex with men (MSM). 

Experts in Ireland have recently been raising concerns about the use of G in particular – it’s highly addictive and its potency varies wildly, increasing the risk of passing out or overdosing.

It’s very difficult to get an accurate figure of how many people die because of using G; it usually only shows up in a person’s system for a few hours and many toxicology tests don’t screen specifically for the drug.

Deaths that are likely connected to the drug are often listed as ‘death by misadventure’ or as a drug overdose but G is not specifically mentioned. However, people who work in the sector have said they’re aware of a number of men dying after taking G. 

‘This is a killer’ 

Sutton noted that drug use is nothing new across all walks of society, but that G is more dangerous than many other substances.

He said there have always been dangers around taking drugs, for example “with ecstasy you never knew what was in the pills”, but G is riskier. “The problem with this drug is just the danger of it … this is a killer, it’s just undocumented”.

Sutton told TheJournal.ie the number of people coming to the GHN and similar groups for advice about G has increased in recent years, as has the number of those coming for support after a sexual assault or death connected to G.

Sutton said G is “so highly addictive”, cheap (people can get a hit for as little as €1) and easily available, that many people find it hard to stop using despite the risks. Other people use G socially and don’t see any issue with it.

He stated that some people who use G are aware of the dangers but others are simply “riding the wave of having a great time and being young and not realising the consequences of what could happen”.

Sutton said because there are no official statistics on the number of people who die after taking G, unlike some other drugs, it’s “not seen as a problem”.

He said some people may view eight deaths as low but he sees it as eight deaths too many. He said people working in the gay men’s health sector, as well as the wider health sector, think it’s “really important” to try to track these deaths.

“It’s only when we get to that point that we can start to recognise this as a problem, as a national problem. And it’s only then that the government take things seriously and then we can start to work harder.”

A chemsex working group – which comprises representatives from the National Drug Treatment Centre (NDTC), the Gay Men’s Health Service, the Ana Liffey Drug Project, the Rialto Community Drug Team, HIV Ireland, BeLonG To, and St James’ Hospital among others – meets every couple of months to discuss how to address the issue. 

Overdoses 

As well as issues classifying G deaths, it is very difficult to gauge how many people have overdosed from the drug. There are 14 recorded instances of people who overdosed on G being treated as inpatients or day patients in Irish hospitals in 2018, up from eight in 2017 and seven in 2016.

This figure is likely to be a large underestimation as the vast majority of overdose patients present at emergency departments and these numbers are not collated.

One clear increase has been the number of people seeking help at Ireland’s only G-detoxification clinic, which is based at the NDTC in Dublin city centre. About 80 cases were treated there last year, up from 49 cases in 2018.

The majority of people who attended the clinic last year were aged between 26 and 40 years; two-thirds were male; 63% identified as gay and 37% identified as straight. Just over half of the people who presented were using crystal meth as well as G, up from 40% last year.

Dr Kiran Santlal, Registrar in Psychiatry of Substance Misuse at the National Drug Treatment Centre, said patients are “using [G] more in sex scenarios and less for clubbing” over the last 12 months.

Seven in 10 (71%) patients treated in 2019 said they took G in clubs and at parties, down from 83% in 2018. Last year, 36% of people said they used G at sex parties, up from 29% last year.

“If someone has overdosed on G, the only treatment that you can give is medical supportive management – make sure the airways open, make sure that they’re breathing properly, they’re getting enough oxygen, monitor their heart rate, and just keep them medically stable,” Santlal previously explained to TheJournal.ie.

Sutton said G is easy to access and carry around – it usually comes in a clear liquid or powder form. “It’s a liquid, somebody would have a water bottle, nobody’s going to suspect it,” he added.

Sutton noted that many people who are addicted to G are “highly functioning” and often affluent.

“If they’re turning up to work and they’re functioning, there’s no reason to suspect them,” he said, noting that many people only seek help when their addiction is at “crisis” point.

“Even after going through a treatment, many just went back into that cycle again,” he said. Almost seven in 10 (68%) of people had attended the G-detox clinic last year were repeat referrals.

‘Wide open to sexual assault’

As passing out on G is so common, there are growing concerns about sexual assault.

Sutton said three men have come to him for support after being sexually assaulted while on G. In one of these cases, a man was raped. He said allegations of assaults are causing waves among the gay community, which he described as “a small community” where people typically look after each other. 

“I think that over the last while that has imploded on itself, and there are a lot of people who are scared,” Sutton told us. 

The use of drugs for a sexual high is nothing new. It’s been there since the dawn of man.

“It’s just the type of drug [they're] using which is quite dangerous and because of the fact that people can ‘go under ‘ or end up going into a semi-vegetative state because of the amount that they’ve ingested, it leaves them vulnerable and wide open to sexual assault.”

He said many people who have been sexually assaulted are reluctant to come forward, as those who do are sometimes blamed or not believed. When chemsex is involved, that level of victim blaming is heightened.  

Sutton said some people who were assaulted while at chemsex parties “don’t want to say anything because of the fact that it was their friends that they were there with or it was people they trusted and, you know, the stigma that might bring about”.

He stated that some people who are at chemsex parties believe certain things are “fair game”, adding: “Everybody has come back here with the thought of having sex, so if I see somebody who’s lying there, it’s okay. And of course, we know that it’s not okay.”

Sutton said “huge work” needs to be done informing people in general about consent. 

“I had a recent case where one of the guys started to talk about the fact that he felt abused – and they were his words. And it wasn’t until the third conversation that we had that he actually started talking about sexual assault.

“And then we got to a point where he could actually talk about the fact that he was raped, and certainly it was rape in his case, but it was just that whole guilt thing of ‘Did I do something wrong? How did I leave myself so vulnerable? It’s my fault’, and the shame that brings about.”

Register 

Sutton said he and others who work in the gay health sector are considering setting up an informal register, where people could anonymously register assaults that take place at chemsex parties. 

“We’re hearing so many of these stories, and because we know so many of the people and for a lot of them they won’t go to the police, they won’t report these cases. Or [if they do] it’s too late for a sexual assault units for get involved. And because it’s not documented in seen as though it’s not happening,” he explained. 

It’s time that we actually started some kind of a register where people come to us confidentially and we can just log it because I think we are starting to reach crisis on this.

Sutton said chemsex is seen by some people as only a gay issue, but that’s not the reality and the practice is becoming more common in general.

He said members of the LGBTI+ community often have to explore their sexuality “more so than a heterosexual person might, because that’s the norm and it’s accepted that’s the way you’re going to be”. However, he said gay men in particular are often unfairly labelled as promiscuous but they are “just as vulnerable as anybody else” when it comes to sexual assault.

Straight people go to sex parties too, he noted, and their very attendance does not mean they have given up their right to consent.

Recalling how the gay social scene has changed in recent years, Sutton noted: “About four or five years ago, we started to notice the difference where you go back to a house party, half the room went into one room and the others were kind of sitting there drinking and listening to music and having a bit of fun, but the other half would, you know, head off in a different direction.

“I’m loathe to use the word ‘divide’, but you suddenly realise, ‘Okay, that’s not the kind of party I want to go back to’, and then more and more you can see some of your friends are heading in one direction while you’d be heading a different direction.”

Advice and support

If someone ‘goes under‘ while on G: 

  • don’t leave them unattended
  • make sure they’re breathing, and continue to check their breathing until they wake up
  • put them in the recovery position (lie them on their side)
  • call 999 if they’re unconscious and unresponsive

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If you’d like to speak to me about your experience of GHB use or chemsex, email orla@thejournal.ie or contact me anonymously via my Threema ID ZVHKV6VD.  

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:08 PM

    Nazi anything is vermin, his body deserves to be dumped on the side of the road.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:16 PM

    Couldn’t agree Jazz, put the body an industrial blender and pour it down the toilet … Good riddance

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:52 PM

    I was going to suggest using it as cat litter for humans but you beat me to it.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:02 PM

    I wouldn’t say he was the nicest of fellows, especially with his final words denying the holocaust but it’s a disgrace the man can’t be buried by his family without being attacked.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:12 PM

    Shame the Jews didn’t get to live to see that b@stard die

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:52 PM

    I think his point is ,was his body nicked to prevent a political statement ? Italy yet again has a National Socialist problem ,but nicking bodies is not the way to tackle it.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:39 PM

    Maybe the Israelis kidnapped the body are are going to give it a fair trial and then hang it.

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    Oct 18th 2013, 6:05 AM

    Yess Posthumous execution like that of Oliver Cromwell dug up burnt hung and his body dumped in a ditch his head on public display in London for 25 years
    that’s what you get for ethnically cleansing Drogheda Wexford Waterford and Duncannon and that’s what you should get for taking part of “the final solution” …

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    Oct 18th 2013, 8:45 AM

    He got that for killing King Charles 1 not for cleansing Irish towns. They wouldn’t have done to him when he was alive. They only had that courage after his death.

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    Oct 18th 2013, 12:33 PM

    Relax the kacks the man is dead we should be celebrating. Who cares who has a rotting body. The fact of the matter is he is dead.

    Im not at all religious so I dont believe he was punished but take comfort if you are religious that in your world he might go to hell or something

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    Oct 19th 2013, 8:01 AM

    Cromwell was afraid he would come back from exile with an Irish army ex pat English from Ireland etc that’s why he was he’ll bent on reducing the Irish population by over half a million, in these days that’s a lot of people and a good reason to burn hang etc a dead man
    by the way if it could have been done while he was alive it would have, do you think everyone was sitting on there hands enjoying the slaughter like a good show

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:34 PM

    I can nazi how this is gonna end well.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:14 PM

    What was their excuse again….”we were just following orders.” And they were the ones who said they were sorry.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:26 PM

    What?

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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:18 PM

    Exactly….

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    Oct 18th 2013, 1:06 AM

    Why don’t you tell your boss in the morning Steve to go and sh*te!You are not following his orders any more. You’ll lose your job most likely.Then imagine your boss has the ability to make your life outside work, a living hell. He can through his influence easily ostracise you and your family from society and perhaps in some circumstances, even have you killed for disobeying his orders. Saving your life, your livelihood, your children’s reputation and future was not an excuse to follow orders, it was reason to survive. Also, quite simply, trained soldiers obey orders otherwise the whole military experiment does not work!

    We cant imagine decision making in such a horrific scenario as WW2. Nothing was normal with Nazi Germany. What he done was wrong.You know that.I know that. He even knew that but his priorities at that time were different and now we’ll never know what they were.

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    Oct 18th 2013, 9:06 AM

    They didn’t bat an eyelid.

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    Oct 18th 2013, 1:01 AM

    Did they check behind the couch?

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    Who would’ve thought the “Zombie Apocalypse” would begin in Rome,with “Nazi Zombies” of all things ???

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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:31 PM

    It’s already happened. I had a dream about it then it was made into a movie ‘White Snow’.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:47 PM

    “White Snow” is that a movie about thawing out Walt Disney ??? I suppose that would make him a “Nazi Zombie” of sorts.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:40 PM

    Way to bring FG and abortion into this story. B+ for effort. I would also have accepted reference to the bankers ruining the country to get the A.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:50 PM

    So where did my comment go?

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:54 PM

    same place as that geeza’s body ,probably

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:57 PM

    Seriously, all I said was that the Fine Gael TDs who voted to make legal the intentional killing of unborn children said the same thing “We were only following orders”. Weird that that is deleted or “gone missing”, when it’s actually true. All the so called Catholic TDs said they had to do it or they’d be thrown out of the party and lose their jobs! The triple lock whip was used to make them obey orders. Of course that is no excuse.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:01 PM

    Thérese, your comment doesn’t really have anything to do with the story. This is not a story about abortion and bringing abortion into it just brings the comments completely off track.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:03 PM

    It was terminated. And what the hell your comment concerning Fine Gael and the Protection of Life bill, when the article is about an unrepentant Nazi, your God only knows.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:12 PM

    Thanks Aoife for responding, but it is relevant. Your article says “Priebke also defended his actions at the Ardeatine Caves, saying the orders to shoot the civilians came from Adolf Hitler himself and that members of his SS unit were told they would be shot if they didn’t obey.”

    Anyone who coerces others to obey is in my opinion not fit for office – and in the case of abortion where we believe it is murder of innocent unborn babies, then it is atrocious. However, I’ll not mention it again in this article.
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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:15 PM

    It’s a tenuous link. I appreciate you not mentioning it again.
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    Oct 17th 2013, 11:34 PM

    *hits mute*

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    Oct 18th 2013, 12:28 AM

    @bronagh was just thinking the same thing! Wish there was a mute button for the whole lot of them.

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    Oct 18th 2013, 12:19 PM

    So that would include parents and teachers coercing children to obey orders?

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    Oct 18th 2013, 6:43 AM

    A monster and Nazi apologist. Good riddance.

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