How is the UAE more radical now than the past? Have you been there recently? The emiratis have no time for these extremists at all.

Paddy, this has nothing to do with dog. IS is even worse than dog.

Dogs are sound. These lads are not.

It’s time that society stopped having to defer to and make allowances for religious preferences, beliefs and random notions out of political correctness and peoples general fear of being accused of religious intolerance.

- Society should make every fair, just and reasonable allowance for religious people to indulge in their own many and wildly varied religious beliefs as long as it does not affect or hinder rational, sentient people in general.

But when these beliefs are imposed on our laws, schools, social norms and affect the way non-religious people try and conduct sane, reasonable and normal lives then so help me Allah/Jehovah/God/Santa/Buddah/Simon Cowell/Krishna/The Moon/Insert Random Deity Here…

Personally religion has great meaning for me, it means dogmatism, hypocrisy, misogyny, acquisition of great wealth, paedophilia, normalisation of cult behaviour in society, beheading, breeding misery, sexually confused and repressed men living twisted lives at the expense of every waiting victim, the ongoing war on contraception, the ludicrously primitive nature and content of the bible – on the 3rd day God made a toasted cheese and ham sandwich, and the Continents.

Sociology tells us one key thing, every civilisation in every location, at every time holds a few key common characteristics – there I’d usually a religious belief system and a locally conceived and described God – Humans WANT to believe – it’s a primitive inherent need, they need it, choose it and so do it..

Don’t go to London, Paris, Oslo, Brussels.

Go live among these people whose aim is to bring the world back to the 7th century when Mohammad was about and come back and tell us that they’re just ordinary people Alan.

That is, if you’re allowed come back.

Wow, that’s incredibly racist. Well done, good to see you’ve been completely indoctrinated to western media’s messages.

Usual leftie, throwing around the word racist when someone disagrees with you.

I said that this group of muslim fundamentalists who beheaded an innocent man because he was French wanted to live in a world like the 7th century, which is their own stated aim. What exactly is racist about that?

White-Rem, saying that ISIL represent the Muslim people is like saying the KKK represent all Christians.

How is it racist to oppose these people.??????

The left in Europe have lost their way.

Joe Corleone.

You are the only one who has said that.

White rem

Wrong, they didn’t kill him just because he was French like you have twisted it, they asked France to stop the air strikes that are killing their people, France did not stop so they retaliated. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good argument.

Refering to them as “these people” and insinuating that they would murder me just for going over there is racist all day long, no matter what way you slice it. And forget about labeling me a “leftie” to discredit what I said, that’s pretty lazy on your part, you said what you said no matter what I say.

I’d personally pay for a one way ticket to Iraq for that fool Alan above. If you loathe your own civilization so much just get the hell out.

Buckwheat

Where did I say I loath my own civilisation? Go on, you can copy and paste exactly where I said that, I’ll wait. Oh, that’s right, I didn’t say that at any point. Maybe if you took the 3 crayons you have stuffed up you nose out things might seem a bit clearer.

Why don’t we send alan farell there for a peace talk..Moron..

Alan, does your ass get jealous with ye amount of shit that comes out your mouth?

Paseasy

State why I’m a moron.

This debate began when I pointed out that France and co. are already obliterating the Iraqi people with air strikes and that this is the reason this poor French man has been killed. This point seems to have touched a nerve with some of the people who have responded for some reason. These same people, you included, should read the article again as this a fact, it’s in the article.
Resorting to insults just cements the fact that you have zero argument against this fact and that all you can muster is your “comment” above.

I’m afraid arguing with Alan is a waste of time.

Anyway, I am proud to be a westerner where we (mostly) treat people with respect and where freedom of speech is enshrined. You’re a misguided fool Alan but I’m glad you’re allowed spout your nonsense. In many of the countries you defend, criticism of their society would be less well-received.

Jamie Heffernan

Ha! You’re funny! Care to state which part of what I’ve said is “shit” or are you only capable of regurgitating some “funny” comment you saw on the internet somewhere?

‘this debate began when I pointed out that France and co. are already obliterating the Iraqi people with air strikes’
Yes and that’s total and utter BS. It’s ISIS who are obliterating Iraqi’s by the thousand, or maybe you missed those pictures of hundreds of soldiers being executed by these lunatics. It was kind of hard to, they were splashed practically every media outlet.

Get a grip and stop being a terrorist sympathiser. You’ll probably deny that you are one, but your posts say otherwise.

@ Scipio

I’m a terrorist sympathiser now? Tell me exactly where I said that? You said my posts said it so please, indulge me.

I’m against the killing of civilians, not terrorists, to deny that civilians have been killed by French, US and co. airstrikes shows how incredibly naive you are.

Rem

A little slow are you? There’s only so much of your insults I can take. I’ll try to dumb this down a little, just for you. I am not defending the killing of this poor French man, as again, you have twisted it to sound like. I said they had a reason, again, it is stated in the article. Maybe you should read it again? Just because I pointed out a fact that you had no argument to you blew the whole thing up to make me look like I support terrorists.

Then you launch in to the whole “I’m proud to be a Westerner” spiel to try and paint yourself as “the good guy” and me as some sort of “bad guy”. At the end of the day all you did was twist things to suit your argument, put words in my mouth and insult me when all I had been pointing out was that the French and co. were already bombing Iraq.

Pathetic.

Alan.

Your are a moron. Read over what he said. Try to leave the righteous attitude aside and just read it.

Shut up Alan will ya, please. You’ve lost.

Seanie

I did read over what he said, he basically threw semi-veiled insults my way, again, and then put words in my mouth by saying I was defending “these countries”.

I can tell by the start of your comment, where you also insulted me, that you are of a higher intellect than most. Seeing as you are in agreement with him, please point out where I defended “these countries”.

To the last guy, can’t remember your name, I lost? All I was pointing out was that France and co. were already bombing Iraq, are you saying they aren’t?

That didn’t go too well Alan did it?

Alan Farrell… You truly are a dick. Your stupidity is not a cause for you to feel proud of yourself at all.

@alan… Stop before you embarrass yourself further, you genuinely have not got a clue what you are on about, seriously, stop.

Alan, honestly the west are no angels, but what do you honestly think would happen if you were a tourist someplace and were abducted by Isis. What if through your superior empathy and reading the correct news sources said to them “Wait, I’m not like other westerns. I understand you and why you are doing this and even though I am not part of your culture, I accept your right to both exist and believe as you wish without the West interfering. Then we together can mutually accept each other and share in a rich and peaceful life full of tolerance and understanding. I accept you!”

Yeah, I think we’d all be seeing a video of you soon enough. I think you are confusing that because the West has done wrong sometimes (although not all the time), this somehow justifies what this group are doing to people who have not directly harmed anyone and somehow ennobles this group as freedom fighters. I personally think this is naive and vehemently disagree, but to each their own I suppose.

Yep, yawn…

Alan u are a complete disgrace and to say that they had a reason, questions ur intelligence. Of course the western world is guilty of atrocities, nobody is doubting that. These monsters are not carrying out such crimes only on westerners but on their own citizens. Look at the news, esp the Turkish news where u can see people are fleeing from eg Syria because their daughters have been kidnapped and their husbands have been beheaded. All in the name of Islam???No religion and I stress that, allows such things to happen. These monsters must be erradicated.

Alan. Where did I say that you were defending them?

And plus Alan I don’t agree with war but what i also don’t condone are statements from someone who is covering their identity. U are either a troll or someone who is on the way to’jihad’. U are a disgusting piece of work… It is not in my eyes a conspiracy when I hear from people what is happening. I don’t think the French president can allow ( ratings wise) negative publicity and such is the extent of this current news

Alan, France has had no involvement in Iraq. Do you not recall that they refused to take part in the 2003 invasion of Iraq?

Well done Alan. Don’t let the bigots beat you down.

Alan what will you have to say when one of these nutters takes someone off a street in Ireland then makes a video of them and then takes the head of them. ???

Racism is such an overused and thrown around word it has lost its meaning.

You are a lefty playing the race card because you have no point and no I will not bother defeating the illogic of you point because it has already been done in too many other places.

“I’m not defending the killing of this poor French man”.

Well you’re certainly excusing it. The difference is a very, very fine line.

Cant you smell right wing poorly educated Gombeens on here.

Well said seamus! Fox News must be cheap with their sky subscription!

They killed him for money and power. Maybe they didn’t get a ransom this time but they sure did some advertising to the family of the next victim. Remember too that Saudi Arabia has beheaded eight people in the last month alone. I’m not racist, I’m humanist and I think Islam is an affront to civilisation.

Seanie when are you flying out to fight these militants

Move to IS please and All the Lefty PC bandwagon.

Islam is not a race let me say that again so it can go into your head Islam is not a race. Christianity is not a race, Buddhists are not a race, do you understand.

@SeanieRyan. I am left wing but I see militant Islam and their Sharia as a threat to civilisation. I think your right. The left are not seeing Islamofascism for what it is. It is forcing and subjugating people to a centralised fixed ideology. the children of Europe will curse us for allowing these bigots to gain control and they will. Demographics are on their side. No to Islamophobia and No to Sharia Fascism.

Shut up Alan

Alan Farrel are you living in the same world as the rest of us?

Alan why dont you go hiking in Algeria, lets know how you get on………

Mark, there’s been countless condemnations of these events by Muslim leaders all over the world. Just because you’re not aware of it doesn’t mean that it’s not the case. The vast majority of Muslims are as appalled as you out I are.

They actually have. There has been a show of solidarity from some Arab nations in response to these barbaric executions, Egypt, Jordan and Qutar et al have all shown opprobrium and disgust towards these unjustifiable and inhumane killings! But yet they ignore it, which is why I support the position undertaken my the West. And maybe further actions are necessitated until this movement is deracinated completely.

Or they see them as a political threat hence their response?.

Well I’d be cynical of the support coming from some of the countries getting involved. The house of Saud are just as bad as IS so I’m not exactly happy with how things are going in the fight against IS. The Saudis are the main instigators and backers of the efforts to make Sunni/wahaabi Islam the dominant force in the middle east with all the proxy war that entails. In general the west has backed the worse (by far) of two evils by siding with the Sunni Saudis over Shia Iran, in my opinion anyway.

Michael it is not just the position taken by the West. At least 5 Muslim nations are actively supporting the airstrikes against Islamic State.

And two of those nations Lamb have and continue to fund ISIL.

Mark the reason the Muslims around the world are not talking against Isis they have big plans for us can’t you see they are moving right across Europe building mosques every where soon there will be more Mosques than churches, how many Muslims have moved into Ireland lately? In fact how are they getting in in large numbers,

Michael
You must be joking regarding Quatar on your list that country finances nearly all Islamist terrorist including Hamas in Gaza.

Joe, including one of your favorite countries – Iran!

Eh, are you saying Iran fund ISIS?! Because if you are you couldn’t have less of an understanding of what is going on there if you tried? Sorry, not trying to be nasty or anything, maybe I’m just misunderstanding something there?

Haha.. good one, Declan. Yes, Shia Iran are funding the most extreme Sunni Jihadist group on earth. It’s how you tell them, son.

Petr, take a little time and google it. Remember this is the black market- lots of shady people. Turkey is also mentioned. So don’t accuse me of cherry picking like your side does.

Oh God Declan, you actually have no idea how hilariously wrong you are.

Don’t know about IS Petr, but Shia Iran certainly funds Sunni extremist groups, Hamas being a prime example.

In fact Iran sponsors numerous proxy groups (of all persuasions) outside its own borders in order to further its regional agendas and ambitions, a fact which seems to be lost on many Journal commenters who support Iran.

@Joe, don’t forget big uncle Sam has being arming them to the teeth. In order to take down Assad. Remember Afghanistan folks and look what happened after.

Would.

Would…..if…?

So, what you’re saying is, you would..but you won’t. I’m confused..

Go join the legion

@Seanie Ryan, racist you are. Do you know , there has been a rise of attacks on the Irish community by right wing fascists groups like the EDL and Britain first in the North of England.

So it’s a bit like the ould bible then!

Seanie … You have never read the Koran .. Indeed have you read the Bible ?

It’s not so much they ignore it, more they simply don’t know about it. Also “more than a decade during the nineties” ? ; )

Also I know all about how the French terrorised and brutalised the Algerians for years, but maybe that’s beside the point, eh?

Mea Culpa ! It lasted for more than a decade (It started in the 90′s) ! bed time for me …

I was only havin’ the craic Mohamed, oiche maith.

Mohamed — To be fair, the FIS won elections. They should have been allowed to govern. Anyway that’s just a sidepoint. Algeria is such an inspiring country, their war of liberation against the French inspired millions.

Petr, so much resentment in Africa, both in the Arab north and the sub-Saharan south towards Europe because of its brutal colonial history. Many don’t grasp this.

Soccer and cheeseburgers doesn’t make everything ok.

True, Jamie.. on both counts!

*don’t.. damn my pedantic tendencies.

True Mohamed Algeria had its very own ISIS in the GIA, who massacred indiscriminately, beheading and slitting the throats of Journalists and the murdering of over 100 hundred foreigners not to mention the burning of schools that allowed mixed classes, their disdain for liberated women knew no bounds murdering women for not wearing the hijab or headscarf even women who held professional careers among other barbaric acts, all in the name of Islam I’m afraid!.

Your support for a hate preacher like Ahmed Deedat leaves your condemnation of the ISIS head hackers somewhat powder puff!.

Thanks Petr !

What are you on about ? would you call someone who held numerous inter-religious public debates a hate preacher !! It sounds like an Inquisition to me

Funny isn’t it Mohamed that other Islamic hate preacher Zakir Naik took his inspiration from Deedat?.

Sharia is barbarism. Conservative, anti women,anti LGBT and religious minorities and oppressive against working class people.

Agreed Tarlach. Sharia is anti-human. Imagine banning music.

That’s almost as bad as making shops and off-licenses stay closed on mass day. What kind of backward country would do that?

It may be staged (I’m not saying it is or isn’t), the company that released the video, SITE, is a US run middle east intelligence agency, known for releasing Osama Bin Laden tapes that were said to be fake. They also released the previous alleged beheading videos by ISIL, which experts claimed to be staged.

white-rem .. seeing is believing..

all the preceding videos have been proven to be fake as was James Foleys Sister.

ISIS “Beheadings” Copycat of Turkish TV soap drama Series!!!! watch 33 seconds in!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lp8vAQ3qAI

Frank read the comments from your own link, its a turkish show that always keeps its storylines to whats going on in the world, this is no different they have been doing it for 12 years, i say you just see anything that fits your argument and go with it, pretty lazy frank

No they have not Frank. You have to come back to earth buddy. Read Snopes and metabunk for a change. What do you have lined up for us on Friday.

So Don as a revert or pervert or refit how do you feel about all these guys saying your religion is a heap of dung?

Everyone’s entitled to their opinions kid.

Joe, you have yet to tell me of the Syrian site that you are a moderator of?
Will you not let me check it out?
Your kind of full of yourself to think that you have some kind of voice in this conflict that will make a change for the better.
You, Horgay and frank are fools.
Btw, where’s your side kick glen?