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Global economy at risk of 'stagflation' sparked by Ukraine invasion, says World Bank

The combination of weak growth and rising prices could trigger suffering in poorer countries.

THE GLOBAL ECONOMY risks falling into a harmful period of 1970s-style “stagflation,” sparked chiefly by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the World Bank warned Tuesday as it slashed its annual growth forecast.

The toxic combination of weak growth and rising prices could trigger widespread suffering in dozens of poorer countries still struggling to recover from the upheaval of the Covid-19 pandemic.

The stark forecast came as the international development lender cut its global growth estimate to 2.9 percent, 1.2 percentage points below the January forecast, due to the severe downturn caused by the war.

“The risk from stagflation is considerable with potentially destabilizing consequences for low and middle income economies,” World Bank President David Malpass told reporters.

“For many countries recession will be hard to avoid.”

And if risks to the outlook materialize, global growth could slow even more sharply — triggering a worldwide recession, Malpass warned.

The bank’s Global Economic Prospects report said the Ukraine war is compounding the damage from the pandemic and magnifying the slowdown in the global economy, “which is entering what could become a protracted period of feeble growth and elevated inflation.”

The slump comes after growth recovered to 5.7 percent in 2021 following the pandemic downturn — marking the “sharpest deceleration following an initial recovery from global recession in more than 80 years.”

The report notes similarities to the 1970s when growth stalled and inflation skyrocketed with supply factors fueling price hikes and following a long period of low interest rates.

But in contrast to that period, the US dollar is strong, and major financial institutions are in solid position.

- Global recession risk -
The Russian invasion and Western sanctions on Moscow have sent grain and oil prices soaring, threatening to worsen hunger in poor countries and causing drivers around the world to face eye-popping prices at the pump.

The World Bank chief stressed the need to increase production to combat rising prices, especially for energy, as short supplies of natural gas and fertilizer are harming food production.

Malpass also said it was “crucial” to avoid export restrictions and subsidies that “magnify the rise in prices and distort markets.”

Likewise, the bank warned against trying to resolve the inflation spike with price controls or export restrictions which would only worsen the damage.

Given the widespread uncertainty, the situation could deteriorate further due to a series of “interlinked” risks, including the possibility of further geopolitical tensions, steep interest rates hikes to contain inflation and rising wages, and the potential for Covid-19 to reassert itself, according to the forecast.

The US Federal Reserve has embarked on an aggressive drive to raise borrowing rates to cool demand and combat rising prices, and the World Bank notes that higher rates have played a prominent role in previous financial crises in emerging market and developing economies (EMDEs), straining resources and causing outflows of cash from those countries.

The simultaneous materialization of these risks could result in a much sharper and more prolonged global slowdown.

If faster US rate hikes were to cause “acute financial stress” in EMDEs, the European Union were to face a sudden ban on energy imports, and China were to experience renewed pandemic-related lockdowns, “global growth could fall more sharply in 2022 and nearly halve in 2023 — declining to 2.1 percent and 1.5 percent, respectively,” the report said.

Malpass said that would cause per capita income growth to fall to zero, and “that certainly would qualify as a global recession.”

Even without that dire outcome, per capita income in developing economies this year will be nearly five percent below its pre-pandemic trend.

The report cut the US growth estimate by 1.2 points to 2.5 percent, and the forecast for China was lowered 0.8 point to an unusually low 4.3 percent.

Meanwhile the euro area forecast was cut to 2.5 percent, and Japan to 1.7 percent.

Russia’s economy is expected to contract this year by 11.3 percent.

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    Mute Rob Cahill
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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:56 PM

    So wait…are you trying to say…not all Muslims are bad??? I’m confused

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    Mute socrates
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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:02 PM

    No they are pointing out what was already evident, there are Muslims whose humanity and logic have survived their indoctrination , not because of it, will be interested to read the follow up article to find out how much is donated and how many families are taken in, ye know, facts and figures not just prayers

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:02 PM

    A great bunch of lads

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:39 PM

    Ah I love how they integrate

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    Dec 11th 2015, 8:36 PM

    @ Josephine
    You would not be saying that if your front room and kitchen had 3 foot of water in it and you had to spend Christmas at your relatives after losing everything below 3 foot on the ground floor of your home. Hope it never happens to you but if it does I wont be shedding tears for you.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:34 PM

    Alan, what has Islam got to do with the floods?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:40 PM

    @ Josephine

    Whatever it is…It ain’t got nothing to do with Noah!!! Am I right??? #Niche

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:52 AM

    @Nigel Murphy. Is ‘Raise’ a typo error. Surely Claim.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:54 AM

    @Josephine Sweeney. I don’t knowa. Could it have something to do with Noah.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 3:44 AM

    The Ottaman gave aid to Ireland during famine times they also saved the jews many times but of course thats never mentioned. Without the muslims you would still be writing MCXCC roman numerals which doesn’t lend itself well to addition and subtraction.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:07 PM

    Let’s leave the politics out of it.
    A true humanitarian gesture.
    The recipients of this financial aid will be very grateful this Christmas.
    Bravo.

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    Mute TommyRyder
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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:24 PM

    Make a change from a massive inflatable Panti Bliss I suppose.

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    Mute David Murphy
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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:27 PM

    And who wouldn’t that annoy Pepper? If someone took charity and squandered it in a deliberately offensive way it would piss anyone off, from Atheist to Zionist

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    Mute Pepper
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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:42 PM

    Ah, I see someone removed my comment. What a joke. If it was about Catholics it would have stayed. Hypocrites.

    These people believe in fairytales and expect respect for it. No.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:53 PM

    You think that’s bad…now it looks like I was giving out to no-one…people will think I’m crazy.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 8:11 PM

    Don’t worry Dave, he still looks crazier

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    Mute TommyRyder
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    Dec 11th 2015, 9:11 PM

    Apologies for the Panti Bliss retort.
    Pepper made me do it.

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    Mute Suzie Sunshine
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    Dec 11th 2015, 9:14 PM

    I’ll back you on that one , it was all pepper’s fault .

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:35 PM

    It’s not about whether you agree with or not their view but you must respect their right to have that view. Or in this case that religion.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:55 AM

    @TommyRyder – Peppers is just rubbing salt n2 ur wound.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:48 PM

    Nothing about god punishing the wicked Yes voters? Isn’t that what he does?

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    Dec 12th 2015, 4:05 PM

    @Daisy Chainsaw. I presune you refer to our latest Referendum. Do u believe it is pubishment ?

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    Mute Stephen Doyle
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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:55 PM

    Can we not just say Irish citizens fundraise for fellow citizens in need?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:11 PM

    We could,and that would be correct in every way,sadly there’s a tiny vocal minority who like to tar all Muslims with the same brush and bring their religion into every news topic.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:14 PM

    Yeah, like the media…..Daily Fail and all the other gutter thrash press.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:14 PM

    In this instance the author has chosen to single out Muslims, the author is the one bringing their religion into it here.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:21 PM

    Naturally it couldn’t just be left at that story.

    The victim card just had to come out! “Islamophobia”

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:24 PM

    Which is a made up word of course.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:31 PM

    Residents would be more accurate, I’m sure many giving and receiving assistance don’t have citizenship.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:32 PM

    Every word is made up at some point

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:22 PM

    Who said they are Irish citizens.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:58 PM

    Would there be an article if Catholics raised money?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:05 PM

    Let’s leave the politics out of it.
    A true humanitarian gesture.
    The recipients of this financial aid will be very grateful this Christmas.
    Bravo.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:15 PM

    Catholics give money all year round to various needy causes not just when it is politically expedient to do so.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:22 PM

    You’re easily bought Tommy.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:39 PM

    Yeah Tommy, you’re being totally bought by these people who are doing good things in a cynical attempt to demonstrate that they are good people who do good things!

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:42 PM

    Good people don;t believe in fairytales. Stupid people do.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:47 PM

    My Granny still believes in a few Pepper. Super oul lady so she is.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:23 PM

    Look at you guys, Tommy, for a change makes a valid contribution, and you still slag him for it, even if he was trying to be cynic, he has a point, there are good people all over the world, regardless of their political or religious beliefs, or their sexuality and gender identity. Tommy, thank you for the comment.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 8:13 PM

    Although we are almost entirely diametrically opposed in our viewpoints,I like Tommy,he has an acerbic wit and his opinions are not rigid,but boy does he get under my skin sometimes,a part of feeling alive I suppose.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:06 PM

    Thanks for the kind words guys.
    Can we call this meeting of minds ‘Philosphical Fluidity’?

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    Mute Charlie Fogarty
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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:16 PM

    ‘Philosphical Fluidity’. Great band. Second album got a little preachy though.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:19 PM

    If any artist makes that album it will be Van the Man.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:26 PM

    “…and it stoned me, to my soul…”

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:00 PM

    This is very much in keeping with all the Muslims I have known. Generous and thoughtful.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:11 PM

    Don’t think there is Islamophobia in Ireland However Muslim countries do discriminate against Christians

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:14 PM

    A case of the pupil becoming the master perhaps?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:23 PM

    Well many Muslim countries have the death penalty for conversion away from Islam Christian population in the middle east is under terrible perscuation and is being driven out in many countries Muslims are treated well in western countries and their faith is respected

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:26 PM

    Don’t forget the death penalty for homosexuality and for female rape victims.

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    Mute Larissa Caroline Nikolaus
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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:19 PM

    And because some Muslim countries discriminate against Non-Muslims, you think it’s okay to discriminate against Muslims in return? Did anyone ever tell you, two wrongs DO NOT make a right?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 8:25 PM

    # They discriminate against everyone else when it comes to official Muslim Charity called ZAKAT.This Muslim charity levied at 2.5% of income per annum amounts to about $20 Bill. annually. Disbursement of this ZAKAT is forbidden to non-Muslims and there are 8 categories of recipients.
    —”’There is consensus of all those whose positions we know from the people of knowledge that a non-Muslim (dhimmi) cannot be given any zakat.’—’ wikislam

    One, category 7,is for Global Jihad /Reliance of the Traveller/Sharia Law Handbook below

    —-”THOSE FIGHTING FOR ALLAH
    h8.17 The seventh category is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no salary has been allotted in the army roster (O: but who are volunteers for jihad without remuneration). They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; of weapons, mounts, clothing, and expenses (O: for the duration of the journey, round trip, and the time they spend there, even if prolonged. Though nothing has been mentioned here of the expense involved in supporting such people’s families during this period, it seems clear that they should also be given it)—”.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:23 AM

    The Zakat actually varies between sects and countries. Disbursment from the zakat is not actually forbidden to non-Muslims, but it is recommended (with varying degrees of priority) that Muslims are looked after first. Not too much unlike how many Christian charities work. Since the closest thing Catholics in Ireland have to the zakat is the collection baskets in church, it’d be a lot of fun to find out how much of that goes to non-Catholic causes. (By which I mean doesn’t go into the diocese bank credit union account)

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:18 AM

    @Watcher on the wall. Don’t strain yourself. Below is more proof/an official guide for ZAKAT disbursement; and that’s not at all like how Non-Muslim charities work Why do you mention Catholic?
    Those who deserve ZAKAT,-
    —”’As for those who are in debt, wayfarers, and fighters in the cause of Allah who receive Zakah, if their state changes or if they did not use the money to meet the necessity for which they deserved it, Zakah should be taken back from them.
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    — And—”Those Who Do Not Deserve Zakah/ZAKAT
    —–”Non-Muslims except for those whose hearts are to be reconciled-(meaning recent converts having doubts about their conversion,etc.)—-”
    http://www.zakatguide.org/english/distribution_zakat.html

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:30 AM

    So now we are supposed to discriminate against moslems as a sort of revenge hmm .. cus that’ll show Saudi Arabia huh …

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:05 PM

    ‘The imams delivered today’s sermon about the importance of helping the needy in society…’

    Fair play to anyone, regardless of faith, who raises money for flood victims. But the article sounds like it was written for a class of five-year-olds, it’s that patronising.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:28 PM

    @Briny Boy, regarding the style of the article, did you expect anything else from The Journal?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:58 PM

    Or the muslim press office…

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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:55 PM

    This is Excellent and fair play to The Journal for telling us.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:58 PM

    As opposed to Christians and atheists who’ve given hundreds of thousands to SVP, Simon etc this Christmas?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:01 PM

    Don’t forget the travellers and LGBT community. The journal loves them too

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:13 PM

    As opposed to the fact that there are only about 80,000 Muslims in Ireland,which makes your point redundant,bit slow?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:22 PM

    Holey moley! Are there 80,000 of them now??? Thats doubled since the last count

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:25 PM

    And yet they could only muster a handful of them at their “Not in My Name” rally a few months ago.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:46 PM

    It was just short of 50k in 2011. I would hazard a guess it will more than double in the next census.

    Do you hate Muslims, Islam, all religions or yourself Oisin?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:04 PM

    that iman seems like a nice guy, is he sunni or shia? or ahmadi im not sure. bazz who will be on the late late later, did a tv show with him.

    i like the ideas of Ahmadi islam, jihad is a peaceful inner struggle in the ahmadi tradition. they dont promote violence, Ahmadi Islam is the only muslim tradition which is united under one world leader much like Catholicism. and the fonder even looks serene and peaceful, there is a promise of hope. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the only Muslim sect in the world that is united at the hand of one leader, His Holiness Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (peace be upon him).
    They are the only community who have not been involved in terrorism, as far as i know.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:18 PM

    It’s all bo***x though isn’t it John?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:23 PM

    Also, saw the trailer or the “Baz show”. Granted it will go considerably better than the O’Doherty affair but why do RTE insist on covering topics like this through the point of view of an Irish “celebrity” with tenuous link to the subject matter?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 11:36 PM

    good comment! i almost said something similar to that in a mosque once, the faces were priceless, i dont think i would have got out if i had have finished the sentence. lol

    if people dont mess with others and are good i dont mind what they believe in, its the evil little imans and hate preachers i have a problem with. and i dont think we are facing up to these people. why do saudia arabia and other countrys want to build mosques and then send their preachers, their preachers….over? we need to have a honest conversation about islam, i was disappointed with bazz tonight, the usual light weight nonsense from tubridy. no facing up to the violence in islam just denial. what do i expect from minor celebrity types i suppose

    Bazz did not quote that verse completely or correctly its very open ended here it is.

    Yusuf Ali: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (i wonder who defines mischief)

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    Dec 12th 2015, 12:13 AM

    @John Kelly…. The Muslims who don’t mind murdering peopleand cutting off hands and feet would decide for that is the penalty for ‘causing mischief in the land’,-
    —”Quran (5:33) – The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

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    Dec 12th 2015, 12:21 AM

    @John Kelly…. The part you quoted is from Koran 5:32 ”’“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone slew a person — unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land — it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.—-”” Imams and the like never conclude with Koran 5:33 of same verse above post and this is a deliberate attempt to obscure the real meaning of the verse. Also an insult to our intelligence.
    Well done. A very good comment.Brings to light a real scam

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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:07 AM

    Patrick – Have you read Deuteronomy?

    If so, how do you feel about indoor plumbing, for example? Or are you happy to make the two-mile hike for a crap?

    Are you content with the notion that anyone raped in an urban environment is an adulterer, because surely if they called for help, someone would have answered?

    Do you obey Deuteronomy 12 and “Destroy completely all the places on the high mountains, on the hills and under every spreading tree, where the nations you are dispossessing worship their gods. Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and burn their Asherah poles in the fire; cut down the idols of their gods and wipe out their names from those places.”?

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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:35 PM

    Sir john harrington invented the flushing toilet, and thomas crapper invented the ballcock. the history of water supply’s predates islam, indoor plumbing was invented by the romans. probably in use before that.

    No normal christian follow the old testament, its a non argument, its just a silly comparison as christians in general dont follow the old testament at this point in time. islam is a 1400 year old religion, christianity is around 2000 years old,there were civilisations who invented and researched long before Islam or Christianity.

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    Dec 13th 2015, 2:38 AM

    And yet, if you go to a bookshop and buy a Christian Bible, these Old Testament books are included. What would a non-Christian, looking in make of that? Do all Christians believe in all of the Bible or not? If not, why should we assert that all Muslims believe in all of the Koran? (The book of Deuteronomy btw, explicitly forbids toileting within 2 miles (or whatever the equivalent measure in desert goat-wanderings is) of where people sleep.

    Or is your argument that we are different, because some of our guys did some different stuff?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:45 PM

    You can’t question any thing about Islam without causing offence and be branded with some offensive hijacked word which is not applicable. As long as that stance continues Islam has no place in this country end of discussion. If the Catholic Church and members followed that way of thinking , pedo’s would have still be abusing kids.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:57 PM

    Great gesture bit of good propaganda here

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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:59 PM

    Shaykh Al-Qadri also described recent reports of an Irish woman not accepting medical assistance from Muslim doctors and Donald Trump’s remarks about banning Muslims from entering the US as “examples of the rise of Islamophobia”.

    He said the best response from the larger Muslim community is to reach out to their neighbours with love and care.

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    Mute Larry L'Oiseau
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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:49 PM

    Would they not be reaching out with ‘love and care’ all the time as many Irish people do ? Or do they only reserve that for each other ??

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    Dec 11th 2015, 8:14 PM

    You’re probably asking that question because you’ve never met one,you should get out more.

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    Mute John J Kelly
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    Dec 11th 2015, 9:12 PM

    we can f*ck*n* read, whats wrong with you? its in the article! parrot or an echo? God damn it..or Allah damn it i mean!

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    Dec 11th 2015, 9:18 PM

    its a good gesture. lets just take it at face value, i don’t like the ideology of islam, they are just people, and if they are not extreme im fine with them.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:26 PM
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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:17 AM

    Yes, I’m sure they thought the same in Famine times

    http://muslimvillage.com/2014/02/10/48563/muslims-helped-ireland-great-famine/

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    Dec 11th 2015, 5:57 PM

    “The thing about Muslims coming over here is that they don’t try and get involved with the community’s and keep awa…”

    Uh oh, they are going to have to think of a few new things to say on this article!

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    Mute Larry L'Oiseau
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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:46 PM

    Yes Bob
    And there is really only one ‘new’ thing to say:

    That they have decided to (possibly) raise a few bob and felt the need to issue a press release for the positive PR spin really makes me ask the question;

    Would they not be contributing every week to the society they chose to join ?

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    Mute Charlie Fogarty
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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:33 PM

    Larry. Stop using “they”. You are literally doing “what the terrorists want”.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:16 AM
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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:41 AM

    @Allseeinggl…..They helped all the people of Baltimore take up a life of slavery in Islamic lands,-
    —”The Stolen Village: Baltimore and the Barbary Pirates
    by Des Ekin
    3.94 of 5 stars 3.94 · rating details · 178 ratings · 31 reviews
    In June 1631 pirates from Algiers and armed troops of the Turkish Ottoman Empire, led by the notorious pirate captain Morat Rais, stormed ashore at the little harbour village of Baltimore in West Cork. They captured almost all the villagers and bore them away to a life of slavery in North Africa. The prisoners were destined for a variety of fates — some would live out the …more
    http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4881890-the-stolen-village

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:39 PM

    That’s great but hardly cause for celebration. No one ever said all Muslims are selfish jihadi. Do we extole the virtues of the Sunday mass collections in the Journal too?!

    I wonder, was it Islamophobic when the Sheik warned about radical young Muslims in Ireland or can only non Muslims be accused of that?!

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/leading-cleric-warns-young-muslims-6192485

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:19 PM

    Race or religion do not make people good or bad, it is down to life experiences and who they surround themselves with?
    The majority of the human race are ok but it is news stories that seem to promote the negative that reinforces peoples biases and stupidity, that paints everything and everyone in a false bad light.
    Good people can be from anywhere and be from any race, religion or age?

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:41 PM

    Looks like the ‘mullahs are not so bad after all’ PR campaign is now in full swing. The atrocity in Paris was only an aberration on the part of a few individuals. This will fool some fence sitters until the next murderous campaign

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:24 PM

    it just said they were asked to donate hardly anything to get excited about.for all we know they could think the floods are punishment for our fornicating ways and gave nothing

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:42 PM

    For all we know you could be thinking about murdering cats in your brain right now. But I still think we should give you the benefit of the imaginary doubt.

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    Mute Chris Lynden Campbell
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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:26 PM

    Fair play… Can’t tar everyone with the same brush, can’t imagine what it’s like to be a Muslim, a little like being Irish in England in 70′s 80′s and even 90′s.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:58 PM

    It is nothing remotely like that.

    Irish and English people have a mutual history going back 1000 years . We share language, culture, religion, customs.

    We integrate into each others countries and adopt their norms. Many Irish in Britain were 2nd/3rd generation and were more British than Irish.

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    Mute Charlie Fogarty
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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:31 PM

    I think what Chris means is the idea of living in a society where people “connected” to you dominate the general perception about what you are really about.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 7:59 PM

    Hundreds of thousands of people have been trough this hospital or error the years and this is the first time I’ve heard of an incident where ashole behavior made national news. I think the Imam would be better served focusing on the fact that 99 percent of Irish people aren’t ignorant racists. Highlighting one of incidents is not exactly helping is it.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 8:41 PM

    Racist ? How can it be racist Joe ? Muslims are not a race , try and find a Muslim man who will allow a male Doctor to treat his property / wife , the Imam with the little hat seems to be a decent sort but the same can’t be said about some of that shower in Clonskeagh , Ali Selim who seems to RTE go to Muslim would not condemn Osama Bin Laden or Hitler for that matter , he has great ideas on how to control Muslim girls education , is an advocate of Sharia law and yet those clowns never seem to have enough of him , he also threatened to sue anyone who published cartoons of ‘ himself ‘ this guy is a great addition to the country

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    Dec 11th 2015, 9:40 PM

    Not making excuses for Selim, but it’s worth noting that we have plenty of our own with broadly similar mindsets rattling around under the Iona Institute banner… It’s not a characteristic of any one religion, it’s a characteristic of blind, unthinking, fundamentalism.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:14 PM

    great bunch of lads

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    Dec 11th 2015, 9:15 PM

    The chances of a follow up article with proof of any amounts raised are probably gonna be the same as the amounts raised. Zero.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 6:59 PM

    What’s being Muslim got to with it. Irish people came together to help those in need. (Except me!!! I’m bloody broke

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    Mute captain ireland
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    Dec 12th 2015, 12:12 AM

    Quran (4:74) - ”Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”  …. This is used to justify suicide bombers .

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    Dec 12th 2015, 3:37 AM

    I’m convinced that like the millions of Christians who have never once picked up a Bible, there are many Muslims who have neither seen or read the Quran & know nothing about how much of a psychopathic warmonger its creator was.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Q8bImiPCM&ebc=ANyPxKomcwAf77LdWia1Q8KN-_ITRrwGaxG7OO7vztHBpixF7l62OjUmr-ZhFyyvZ4ecVlEdbJlfyfTQNYOH_PcQ_zeia1f_LA

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    Mute captain ireland
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    Dec 11th 2015, 9:58 PM

    Muslim people not the problem , it’s the Koran

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:49 PM

    Muslims normally look after their own

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    Mute captain ireland
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    Dec 12th 2015, 12:15 AM

    Quran (8:12) - ”I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them…… Another quote from the Koran , religion of peace ?? More like the babblings of a mad man

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:16 AM

    Pfft, that’s nothing, your quoting a Disney film there compared to the Christian stuff, here’s a mild example from your bible, just a bit of rape of minors being condoned: “Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.”

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    Mute captain ireland
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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:14 PM

    Old testament , no Christians believe that shit , you wouldn’t find stuff like that in the new testament

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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:52 PM

    Jesus dicky…calm down, you are going to give yourself a heart attack, and you might not make it to midnight mass on christmas eve then, which would be tragic….try and live in the moment..relax

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    Mute Tony Kennedy
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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:20 PM

    People putting forward arguments that the religion of the donors is irrelevant are being willfully ignorant. The reality is that across Europe, Islam has struggled to integrate. Sometimes that is down to Islamism/Islamic Fundamentalism sometimes its due to racism/bigotry on the part of the host nation. To pursue this Leftist narrative of saying ‘this has nothing to do with religion’ (whether its a good or bad event) is to pursue a dogmatism that alienates everyone apart from the indoctrinated vanguard of a-holes.

    Shaykh Qadri has shown time and again a willingness to lead Muslims away from Islamism and towards integration. He is a man, who in my opinion, deserves the respect and support of Irish people who have genuine concerns about Islam (fyi refusing treatment from a hijab wearing doctor IS NOT a genuine concern, its bigoted).

    That is why it is important to identify the religion of the donors. Because it was a gesture of solidarity by a section of the Muslim community to their fellow citizens. Also, to give charity at Christmas, is an important gesture that warrants respect.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:29 PM

    making donations in one hand for flood victims and donations in other hand for sunni fighters in the middle east… in disguise of some charity organisation of some sort …..!!!!!!

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    Dec 11th 2015, 11:05 PM

    Sunni islam at war with every religion in the world. … With ….shai in middle east. … christian people in Africa ….. christian people in the holy land and Jewish people. ….. Buddhists in Thailand. ..
    Hindus in India. ..Sikhism in pujab…..christians in Philippines ….
    Bahi in middle east ..
    Coptic christian in egypt. … you look at nearly every country in the world, and its in conflict with except middle south American. … were there is few moslims….?????

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    Dec 11th 2015, 11:51 PM

    That has about as much to do with the article as container gardening tips for Spring 2016.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 11:38 PM

    A positive move, Now condem sll Jihadi’s and report hate filled sermons and suspects to the Gardai.

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    Mute Richard Cheney
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    Dec 11th 2015, 11:50 PM

    I’m sure they will,right after you condemn all the Christian child rapists.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 12:00 AM

    Yes ,there is legislation that if u have knowledge and you do not report any child abuse , you will be prosecuted , that’s a big step in the right direction , Muslims hide behind the Koran , i would class the Koran alongside mein kampt , babblings of madmen

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    Dec 12th 2015, 2:44 PM

    I do condemn all child rapists. But not all the church is guilty Dick. There is a proportionate level of child molesyers across all professions, even political level. God bless you.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 8:53 PM

    Do you really think Islam imams in poverty areas are innocent of child abuse ? Are you really that naive ?

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    Dec 12th 2015, 1:23 PM

    Irish are the most welcoming and generous people when it comes to welcoming foreigners and going abroad to help the most needy of all. We value this utmost and whenever is time to do goods in Ireland, we should all do that to our fellow citizens as well. Islam puts an obligation on all Muslims to ensure their neighbours are happy with them regardless of which faith they follow or not, one of prophet Muhammad hadith is; Allah can not be pleased with a Muslim unless he/she is good to their neighbours and do not do anything to displease them. Some might still find negatives in this message but I cant blame them as negative people have a problem to every solution.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 6:02 PM

    We will see if Muslims will show the same respect when Muslims outnumber Christians which is inevitable , I’d say we will be ok once we pay a special tax

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    Dec 11th 2015, 10:52 PM

    Now maybe its because the word “muslims” was in the headline but at first glance the photograph looked like a row of people in burqas praying….

    No I’m not racist.

    Yes I am a daft bugger at times.

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    Dec 12th 2015, 10:04 AM

    Question:
    Are Muslims permitted to lie?

    Summary Answer:
    Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to “smooth over differences.”

    There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam – in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

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    Dec 11th 2015, 8:29 PM

    We are all God’s creatures.

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