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Green Party candidate Claire Byrne. Rollingnews.ie

Dublin Bay South: Green candidate says 'sending a message to government won't build any homes'

Claire Byrne said that her party is ‘delivering’ in government.

THE GREEN PARTY’S candidate has said that “sending a message” to government in the Dublin Bay South by-election “won’t build any homes” or allow for a fair recovery from Covid-19. 

Parties have been engaging in the final stages of campaigning ahead of Thursday’s vote to fill the seat vacated by Fine Gael’s Eoghan Murphy. 

Much of the debate has focused on whether a government TD would or a member of the opposition will be elected.

Speaking today, Labour’s candidate Ivana Bacik said the vote is a chance to “send a message” to government, even if it won’t change the coalition’s comfortable majority in the Dáil. 

Speaking to The Journal last week, Fine Gael’s James Geoghegan said that he believes a government TD is in a better position “to affect change” in the Dáil. 

Bacik told reporters today that the election “won’t change the government” but that she has been “sensing frustration” about the Fianna Fáil-Fine Gael-Green Party government. 

“What we can do is use it as an opportunity to send a message to government about the need for change in particular policies,” she said. 

I think people do want change and we’re hearing a real appetite across the constituency for change, for the need to send a strong signal to the government on the need for change, particularly in housing but also in other public services around healthcare around childcare and elder care and around climate and community.

constituency-specific opinion poll last week put Bacik second behind Geoghegan in polling but there have been suggestions that she may be the favourite for the seat

Bacik did not agree that she was favourite but said that she’s “certainly in with a strong chance”.

2376 Labour Election Labour's Ivana Bacik.

Also speaking today, Green Party candidate Claire Byrne rejected the idea that people could “send a message” to the government with their vote on Thursday. 

“The opposition are saying we can send a signal to a government that they’re not happy, but signals won’t build houses, signals won’t take immediate climate action, signals won’t take us out of this pandemic and towards a green recovery and safeguard our children’s future,” she said.

The Greens are in government now and we are implementing and delivering the policies that nearly every opposition member is calling for in this campaign. 

Byrne cited as examples the planned construction of 300 cost rental homes in Shanganagh, Shankill. 

The councillor added that her party was “making childcare more affordable, making Ireland a more equal society and working towards abolishing Direct Provision.”

Byrne’s party leader Eamon Ryan topped the poll in Dublin Bay South in last year’s general election and said today that his party will “surprise people” in the by-election. 

“It’s a very good contest with loads of very good candidates, votes will go to all sorts of different places. I think we’re going to do better than people expect, people saying it’s a two-horse race, I don’t agree,” he said.

“What I sense, because I know this constituency well and I know the people, I think we’re going to surprise people, I think we’re going to do really well.”

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    Mute James Reardon
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    Jul 6th 2021, 4:50 PM

    “sending a message to government won’t build home”, neither will the government.

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    Mute Sohoma Roanie
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:02 PM

    @James Reardon: Comment of the day James!

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    Mute Angela McCarthy
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:08 PM

    @James Reardon: that headline smacks of desperation. Electing FG or FF?GRN will send a message thats alls ok, and keep on failing on housing!

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    Mute alphasully
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:25 PM

    @Angela McCarthy: and everything else

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    Mute Frank Cauldhame
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:45 PM

    @James Reardon: But renting is so European and therefore de rigour. Fine Gael and their influencers have being flogging this idea for decades. Funny thing is, they love being the landlord and hate being the tenant. I wonder why?

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    Mute Jack Cass
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    Jul 6th 2021, 6:00 PM

    Am I missing something? Her party is part of Government.

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    Mute Darren Carroll
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    Jul 6th 2021, 4:54 PM

    Neither will voting for them again, might as well try change

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    Mute Honeybee
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    Jul 6th 2021, 9:17 PM

    @Darren Carroll: Exactly Darren, FFG are only good at allowing vulture funds buy up all available property to rent back to us at exorbitant rents, why spoil a good thing, better to leave those who are struggling to buy a home . Use your vote wisely and SEND a message to government, enough is enough.

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    Jul 6th 2021, 4:53 PM

    I guessing quite a lot of people may disagree with that remark at the next election.

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    Mute Alan Wright
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:08 PM

    Neither will FF or FG. They’ve had ample opportunity and refused to build homes.

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    Mute Rochelle
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:09 PM

    Sending a message to green TDs on what their political future will look like if they continue supporting FF/FG in this government may lead to a general election and a new government that actually cares about building affordable housing.

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    Mute whitewater
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:57 PM

    All Claire Byrne’s party delivers is higher taxes.

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    Mute Peazel
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:00 PM

    Yeah because “sending a message to government” means she won’t be elected as her party is in government.

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    Mute Bernard A Kavanagh
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:54 PM

    The message at the last General election was for change. What happened the FG FF hijacked the results for themselves to keep out the people’s vote and the Greens went along with it.

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    Mute The Risen
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:01 PM

    What’s a ‘green party’?

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    Mute Sean Walsh
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:03 PM

    @The Risen: Green for

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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:03 PM

    @The Risen: Green for

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    Mute Sean Walsh
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:03 PM

    @The Risen: Green for cash!

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    Mute Damo
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:14 PM

    @The Risen: a party in government and their defining feature is the introduction of stealth taxes, just a rough guess???

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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:18 PM

    @The Risen: it’s the greed party

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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:32 PM

    @The Risen:

    Green as in greenlight for a coalition deal.

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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:49 PM

    @The Risen: One that’s just a little bit gullible?

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    Mute Adrian O'Donnell
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    Jul 6th 2021, 6:40 PM

    @The Risen: it’s a bit like a red party but it hasn’t ripened yet

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    Mute Michael Byrne
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:07 PM

    Delivering what exactly? Misery maybe

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    Mute Stasia Morley
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:18 PM

    Greens are they for real

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    Mute Neuville-Kepler62F
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:19 PM

    Claire … get the Referendum on Housing done fast before the next looming crash!!

    Housing Crisis … crises … root cause is due to a very defective Constitution which suits many vested interests. A Referendum is urgently required to put the control of this most essential requirement of housing in the hands of the citizens. The German Constitution is a good benchmark and it does not adversely impact on general property rights.

    1974 Kenny Report called for a Referendum on Housing
    2014 Constitutional Convention called for a Referendum on Housing

    If a Referendum was held and passed we could not have had the 2008 crash.
    Another crash is imminent as current house prices are artificially inflated way beyond their true value (base inputs) and the Central Bank is happily approving inflated mortgages to pay for these over valued homes.

    Deliver the Referendum .. for the sake of all future kids!
    https://www.change.org/p/irish-referendum-on-family-home-special-status
    - viewed by 35,000.

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    Mute Francis
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    Jul 6th 2021, 6:57 PM

    @Neuville-Kepler62F: ‘Farmstead only homes in rural areas.’ Is part of your petition, so you want to force people to live in built up areas adding to the competition for houses. A lot of people could build on family land reducing their cost of the house by getting rid of their need to pay for a site.

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    Jul 6th 2021, 7:00 PM

    @Neuville-Kepler62F: I am just curious as to how you word the question in a Housing Referendum. In your view, what constitutes suitable housing for say a family of three or six. Would we all be entitled to a house at the expense of the state? What size would these houses be? Where would they be? Could a family from say Louth be housed in Kerry. What would be done to protect the price of housing for those who already bought their homes or the market place. What qualifies / criteria do people need to fulfil to get a house. Just curious!

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    Jul 6th 2021, 7:36 PM

    @Francis: The Referendum would provide for purchase of building land adjacent to urban areas (city, town, village) at agricultural rate +25%.
    No purchase of 2 cars and cost of running them for the rest of your lives from ribbon and rural houses. No ribbon infrastructural costs of electricity, broadband, water, waste, school transport, street lighting … etc.

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    Jul 6th 2021, 7:43 PM

    @Barrycelona:
    Would we all be entitled to a house at the expense of the state? Absolutely NOT. Homes would just be affordable.

    how you word the question in a Housing Referendum? German Constitution has solved it as have many other developed countries.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 10:16 AM

    @Neuville-Kepler62F: Germany has one of the lowest rates of home ownership in Euroe.
    Better off push the Vienna method of housing. Which works and is cost neutral very quicky

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    Jul 7th 2021, 10:38 AM

    @Gary Kearney: As you say the Vienna Housing model is good and ALL income groups have access to rent the homes and can purchase them at affordable prices.

    But it cannot work in Ireland because the Irish Constitution prevents acquisition of affordable land for housing, at urban peripheries (city, town, village) at agricultural prices + 25%.

    A small matter of General Property rights taking precedence over the housing needs of citizens for the common good. A Referendum is needed to fix this. Then you can have any of a number of German or Vienna solutions to deliver affordable homes.

    A Referendum would also prevent future Financial/Housing Crashes … Central Bank please note!

    https://www.change.org/p/irish-referendum-on-family-home-special-status

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    Mute Brian O'Toole
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:44 PM

    But they’re not building any homes anyway.

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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:38 PM

    I can’t cope with greens and captain planets. It just ends up costing us more money that we haven’t got. Electric cars? Nonsense. What about a global blackout? Geothermal heating? Who’s going to pay for it, I can’t. Ughh…..

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    Jul 6th 2021, 7:36 PM

    @Anna Carr: Electric cars are not nonsense and have a cheaper TCO than ICE vehicles.

    Try filling your filthy diesel from the solar panels on your roof.

    Burning petrol & diesel is driving health costs of €837 per person per year every year in Dublin alone.

    Think of that as you fill up with imported hydrocarbons that directly poison you & your fellow citizens with filthy exhaust gasses emitted at toddler level.

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    Mute Anna Carr
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    Jul 6th 2021, 8:36 PM

    @Gavin Tobin: yes but what if there’s a blackout or a zombie apocalypse? Where are you going to charge your car and also FYI if you run out of charge on the road and have to call your breakdown assistance, you do know they appear with a filthy diesel generator full of carcinogens to spend 3 hours charging your lovely clean car AND my car runs on petrol not diesel and it’s a small city car. Have a lovely evening

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    Jul 6th 2021, 9:12 PM
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    Jul 6th 2021, 9:59 PM

    @Bernard A Kavanagh: Nice one

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    Jul 6th 2021, 11:41 PM

    @Bernard A Kavanagh: Old lithium batteries whether from cars, phones, laptops or whatever are a recyclable resource with lots of money to be made. https://youtu.be/xLr0GStrnwQ

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    Mute Gavin Tobin
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    Jul 6th 2021, 11:49 PM

    @Anna Carr: if there is a blackout or a zombie apocalypse then the petrol pumps wont work either nor will the oil refineries which run on electricity. But luckily those with solar panels will be still able to charge EVs while those on hydrocarbons go into full mad max mode. I have tens of thousands of km drive and have never once come close to running out of battery. EV range anxiety seems to be the preserve of those who don’t actually drive EVs or know anything about them. So anyway if i did run out of charge my insurer or the AA will transport my EV to the nearest charger, no need for your mythical diesel generator. BTW every trip to the petrol station is causing health harm as you inhale naphtha, benzene and other harmful vapours…enjoy.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 1:08 AM

    @Anna Carr: will you marry me

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    Jul 7th 2021, 10:12 AM

    @Gavin Tobin: Does Eamon Ryan have his van on solar panels.
    Dont forget it was the Greens that promoted the Diesel revolution.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 10:13 AM

    @Gavin Tobin: They are partly recyclable and mining the ore is anything but green.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 11:54 AM

    @Sportmad: haha sorry already taken but thank you lol

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    Jul 6th 2021, 4:52 PM

    Doesn’t look like anything will…

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    Mute Frank Koek
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    Jul 6th 2021, 6:01 PM

    Sending a message builds no homes,. Correct
    Neither does the Green Party in government!!
    The proof is there for all to see.

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    Jul 6th 2021, 6:06 PM

    Imagine if Justin Barrett (National Party) gets more votes than Claire Byrne (Green)!! Not beyond the realms of possibility. The Government spin will be unreal!!

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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:18 PM

    Greens are they for real

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    Mute alphasully
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:25 PM

    neither will not sending a message

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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:18 PM

    Greens are they for real

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    Jul 6th 2021, 6:46 PM

    Everyone of them will lie through there teeth to get voted in

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    Mute Garreth Byrne
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    Jul 6th 2021, 5:17 PM

    Voters send messages but different politicians decipher them differently. So too do the commentariat.

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    Jul 6th 2021, 10:15 PM

    Eamonn is a cabbage.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 1:07 AM

    The Green Party are looking at exile again. They are a party that unfortunately antagonize people more that any.

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    Mute MB
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    Jul 6th 2021, 8:24 PM

    I’d like to see a cross party committee set up to look after housing(similar to what they have done with health). I am sick and tired of opposition politicians – attacking the system at every turn, they are being paid by the taxpayer and should be working with the government to get housing right.
    Just like the vaccines , supply is the solution. We need to allow the market get on with providing the houses required and stop interfering for political capital, we are at full employment in the construction industry so very little additional capacity available (and no the councils are nowhere near in a position to build houses), they would simply be taking workers from the private sector supply. First time buyers are really the forgotten in all the arguments from the opposition benches.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Jul 7th 2021, 10:10 AM

    @MB: The market building the homes cost us billions, the builders and the banks made billuons and cost us the public billions.
    Social housing like the Vienna Method of housing works and after a short time is self funding.
    Trickle down economics fails and thats the fact.
    The market is to make money not any other reason.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 12:57 AM

    Zzzźzzzzzzzzzz

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    Jul 7th 2021, 9:33 AM

    James Geoghegan’s previous job was a tobacco lobbyist.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 1:38 PM

    One sure thing, after the next election the Green Party will follow the PDs and so called Labour into the dustbin of history. Baby Blueshirts.

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    Jul 7th 2021, 1:36 PM

    Fake Greens… Nothing but a prop up party at this stage.

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