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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:58 PM

    Mehole says ” In hindsight,he wouldn’t have chosen to relax restrictions as much in December” in his defense, there would have been uproar, people would’ve ignored them anyways! He knew that. People seemed to think they were entitled to completely let lose, now here’s the results!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:08 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: No the mistake was going from 3 to 5 to 3 again. It should have stayed at 3. As the numbers released the other day showed. The numbers had dropped by half proving 3 was working.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:08 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: mehole can’t win

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:16 PM

    @sean Coady: not “my hole” ,Mehole Martin!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:30 PM

    @sean Coady: Lol

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:34 PM

    @sean Coady:

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:34 PM

    @sean Coady:

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:52 PM

    @Franny Ando: Seriously! We should have gone to level5 when the government were advised to go to level 5. The restrictions should be enforced more vigorously. 70% of people playing ball isn’t worth a sh..e.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:54 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: 100 percent correct.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:59 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: stop blaming. Give it a rest

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:04 PM

    @Gary Creaven: The numbers have proved otherwise. A blind a-ss could see the way it was done was a disaster.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:31 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: Well done, Elaine. Do the other 7 year olds think this is gas too?!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:59 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: Holohan and his colleagues could do more by getting the HSE to change some of their work practices during this crisis instead of constantly pointing the finger at the general public the whole time.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:08 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: no matter what Micheal does he can’t win. But the whingers will whinge no matter what he does.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:50 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: loose*

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:55 PM

    @Terry O Shea: This is not a political points scoring scenario, there is no winning, there is common sense, logic and hard decisions, non of whihc are the traits of a man who is supposed to be out leader who did not even do well in the election….

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:36 PM

    @Gary Creaven: The result of going from level 3 to 5 and back to 3 was that the entire Christmas shopping period was compressed into 2 or so weeks. Level 3 was showing progress before level 5 was introduced. They should have left it there. The alternative, if they really wanted to go to level 5, was to stay there, regardless of public sentiment. Unfortunately, a knee-jerk reaction lead to level 5, and utter spinelessness lead to everything opening again just in time for the Christmas mayhem…

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:50 PM

    @Franny Ando: which numbers? The increase in deaths or the decrease in cases now that they have stopped testing close contacts? ( which is still a 4 fold increase in cases on just before christmas.)

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    Jan 17th 2021, 12:22 AM

    @Liam O Connor: how exactly do you think this is spreading, genius. The people.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 12:51 AM

    @Dave:I wish I was flawless like you Dave

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:55 PM

    Behind every number is a person and heartache. Stay safe.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:51 PM

    Rip

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:06 PM

    @Pat Murphy: and condolences to their families

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:54 PM

    Numbers not going down quick enough .
    Gonna be a long long lockdown.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:18 PM

    @Darren Byrne: March

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:26 PM

    @kMc: June

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:46 PM

    @Darren Byrne: I wouldn’t be holding my breath. Even if the numbers were coming down quicker they’ll have learned their lesson from Christmas. This one is going to be a long one jo matter what.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:52 PM

    @Chris Day: August

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:38 PM

    @Maureen: this is a great game. November

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    Jan 17th 2021, 7:50 AM

    @Chris Day: judging by the way some of my neighbours are carrying on it will be June or maybe later, complete disregard for the regulations, I mean some of them are totally immune from any chance of catching it

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:53 PM

    Long way to go… R.I.P. to the lost Souls.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:04 PM

    Too many people on the move. Its plain to see traffic levels too high. Lots consider themselves essential and are apparently not being challenged.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:16 PM

    @Nelius Byrne: Well when going for coffee or buying vinyls is considered essential but clothes and kids toys aren’t, it’s not gonna be taken very seriously.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:26 PM

    @Tomo: exactly!!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:57 PM

    “In hindsight “…. the dogs in the street knew there would be an explosion… we saw what happened in US after Thanksgiving.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:12 PM

    @Ian Forbes: But we were all slapping ourselves on the back because we were doing so well. Did some people really think they could go out night after night and house to house and we wouldn’t pay the consequences? You can’t fix stu pid.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:24 PM

    @Seán Óg: What about the stu pid putting people back into nursing homes from hospitals where most of these fatalities are coming from same as in April you can fix that

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:51 PM

    @Seán Óg: it’s like sports, we start to do well and everyone gets excited and then it inevitably falls apart.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:59 PM

    @Michael McGrath: Of course the hospitals are where most fatalities come from, will you get your head out of the sand , its like you are saying ” but sure the people that dies were in hospital” Thats what hspitals are for to try and save lives, not fix the issues created by clowns who could not be arsed to behave themsleves…

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    Jan 17th 2021, 11:04 AM

    @Dave: He said people were moved from hospitals to nursing homes. This was to make way for the millions that were predicted to need hospital treatment for Covid. Needless to say our experts grossly overestimated the impact of Covid and these millions never arrived.

    The most disturbing thing was that these hospital patients weren’t tested for Covid so the virus spread to nursing homes throughout the country. Sadly the most vulnerable in our society paid the price.

    Our government ladies and gentlemen.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 5:22 PM

    @Dave: I think you should reread my comment and get down off the pulpit buddy

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:04 PM

    Why are they risking opening schools for special needs with numbers still so high

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:23 PM

    @mike: Special needs kids will and have regressed huge amounts without the help and routine of school.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:39 PM

    @mike: because it’s worth the risk maybe?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:12 PM

    @mike: It’s beyond essential for those children to be in school.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:58 PM

    @mike: it’s ludicrous to even think of opening the schools. Hopefully it won’t happen.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:50 PM

    @Joe Moore: it’s essential to keep schools closed to help stop the spread of the virus, to protect the teachers, the parents, and all
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    Jan 17th 2021, 12:22 AM

    @Mills: I have a special needs child and I don’t want him anywhere near the place. It’s hardship without school but really it’s just not safe to be there.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 10:07 AM

    @mike: I have a special needs child and he wil 100% be going back. There is a total of 9 people in his class, 6 students 1 teacher and 2 SNAs. It’s not overcrowded and completely safe. We’ve had COVID-19 so I’m not exactly worried about catching it again either

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    Jan 17th 2021, 7:31 PM

    @Nicole: no your not or your not worried about anyone else either

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    Jan 17th 2021, 7:37 PM

    @Nicole: you don’t care about anyone else do you what about who bring you child to school you only want him out of the way

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    Jan 17th 2021, 8:54 PM

    @Pat Breen: yeah exactly I’m sick of them at this stage can’t even drink my 12 o clock wine in peace

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:04 PM

    Very sad to see the amount of families affected in the last number of days. All the lobbyists from retail and hospitality have blood on their hands. The government made the mistake of listening to them.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:20 PM

    @Michéal Ó Tuama: Thats right god forbid these people might want to try and make a living. Why should they have the right to work to pay their mortgage/rent, why should they want to feed and care for their families, why should they want to pay medical bills or heat their homes. Its time some of the sanctimonious prigs commenting here realise not everyone can survive on PUP, not everyone has savings to fall back on or families who can help out. There are men and women stressed out, suffering sleepless night and depression with the worry of no income.A lot of businesses have been closed for almost a year. How the hell would you survive in this situation!!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:24 PM

    @Franny Ando: don’t worry, there are those who don’t have to worry about covid anymore, they’re dead.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:36 PM

    @Michéal Ó Tuama: They encouraged the people to be the lobbyists. We all know this tactic, it’s effective and has worked for centuries. Divide and conquer.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:38 PM

    @D Mems: Stop with that kind of comment please. They are all valid points made! Are being financially affected by the restrictions? Are you struggling to feed your family and pay your bills? Do you have sleepless nights? Like most commenters on here I doubt it very much that you do.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:39 PM

    @Michéal Ó Tuama: F… o..

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:04 PM

    @Joe Moore: Do you not care that people are dying from this virus ?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:09 PM

    @D Mems: What an igno-rant comment. Thats exactly what I mean.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:11 PM

    @Franny Ando: People like you who refuse to understand that others are suffering. You dis-gust me.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:38 PM

    @Michéal Ó Tuama:rubbish

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:41 PM

    @Cliff Burnby: Don’t be writing silly comments. I care very much actually, but there is more to life than Covid going on in people’s lives. 150 million people worldwide are now poverty stricken because of restrictions. Do you not care??

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:07 PM

    @Michéal Ó Tuama: You seem stable

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:09 PM

    @Franny Ando: didn’t you know most commentators on journal want county to stay locked down for ever as long as government keep handing out covid payments.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:14 PM

    @Joe Moore: What’s silly about it ? Another commenter mentioned that people have died and you told him to stop with that type of comment. That’s a bit of a silly thing to say when another 60 families are grieving today. I do indeed care about all effects of covid, but most people know that lives are more valuable than money. You seem to think the opposite.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:19 PM

    @D Mems: You should go into writing. You write a great drama in two sentences.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:52 PM

    @Cliff Burnby: You don’t understand what I’m trying to say if you think I believe money is more important than lives. Yes the type of comment trying to guilt trip someone with perfectly valid opinions you were referring to. Do you feed your family and pay your bills on 350 a week ??

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:21 PM

    @Joe Moore: Thankfully I muted him. He is a very unpleasant person.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:23 PM

    @Cliff Burnby: can you not care about others at the same time????

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:04 PM

    @Franny Ando: Couldn’t agree more!

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    Jan 17th 2021, 12:22 AM

    @Joe Moore: Maybe I did misunderstand you, sometimes it just looks like people don’t care about those that are dying and are more wrapped up in their own concerns.
    As regards being on 350 a week, I lost my job 10 years ago during the crash and was getting a whole lot less than that to feed my family. Yes it was horrendous and tough but I got through it and an doing fine now. I also know what it is like to grieve a loved one though and that is something that never goes away. I guess my point is that I have lots of sympathy for those that have lost jobs because I’ve been there but I realise that nothing is more important right now than saving lives.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 3:50 AM

    @Cliff Burnby: For the last million years and forever more people will die, I am not a covid denier or conspiracy theorist but we will never be able to prevent people from dying, and no matter what is done throughout this pandemic people will die it’s just s matter of when and how

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    Jan 17th 2021, 11:21 AM

    @Paul Keenan: Yes Paul, we get that, we are talking about preventable deaths here though. Would you be OK with someone close to you getting covid and dying in the next few weeks?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:57 PM

    “Definitely the time to open back up schools”….said Nobody!! We opened up too quick last May and December! Let’s learn a lesson or two before the next pandemic in 100 years time!!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:15 PM

    @Ciaran McCann: the numbers were low all summer so how was May too early

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:23 PM

    @talksense: Some people just want to close everything

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:48 PM

    @talksense: I think the warm weather during the summer did have some influence in keeping the number of cases down. Also being able to be outdoors and get some natural vitamin D was a help. I live in Johannesburg and this country seems to have less cases per capita. Also the weather here is warm all year round. People here live an outdoor lifestyle which also helps.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:52 PM

    Just awful.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:55 PM

    R.I.P …My thoughts,are with the families….

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:52 PM

    Nursing homes must be riddled again to see deaths this high. Shameful.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:54 PM

    @Daniel Dunne: not necessarily. These deaths are from a couple of weeks ago when we were at 7-8k per day

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:55 PM

    @Daniel Dunne: Shameful? Nursing home staff are regularly tested, but they live in the community, shop in supermarkets etc. Unless they are all compelled to actually stay in the home 24 7 how can covid be kept out when there is a tsunami of it in the community?? Shameful is the Christmas partying that led to this.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:55 PM

    @Daniel Dunne: Hearing of deaths of friends of friends in their 40s. Fit people with no underlying. Didn’t hear any of this in first wave. Didn’t know anyone directly affected in 1st wave. Knew some in 2nd wave but much more affected in this wave.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:01 PM

    @Mairead Jenkins: let’s be real, it’s highly unlikely that even in a supermarket if you’re careful and keep you mask on at all and times and practice social distancing you’d get covid. plenty of people go shopping, don’t wear their mask properly,natter for ages to people they meet lean right into them etc. That’s when it’s dangerous. Follow the rules properly and you should be ok!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:08 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: There are no visitors allowed to nursing homes these days, so it is getting in via the staff – through transmission from living in the community. The staff are picking it up somewhere – supermarkets, public transport etc etc

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:13 PM

    @Gavin Tobin: Last time it was numbers, this time it’s names

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:22 PM

    @Elaine Moriarty: we need all the people to follow the rules – not just the health care workers… People pushing past others on the escalator and berated because the health care worker was trying to social distance. A maskless shop manager manning the tills with a notice on the door “Masks mandatory”. A security man with a mask on his chin asking people to follow the arrows…elsewhere glared at when a polite mention of social distancing was made at the queue for the check-out.

    Everyone has to play their part and everyone who cannot or does not should stay at home.. if wearing a mask protected the wearer adequately then we would have no covid – but is it social distancing and hand washing primarily and the mask as an extra layer of protection (but does not protect the eyes which are connected via the tear ducts). Nothing can protect you completely from the actions of others or we would not have to worry about this pandemic.

    Everyone has a part to play in keeping covid-19 out of the health care environment.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:53 PM

    @Niall Ó Cofaigh: I completely agree. I follow the rules as do my parents. But many just don’t get it, it’s a multitude of factors, like you said ..masks AND social distance , plus handwashing etc. And without the full collective effort of everyone, that’s the reason the numbers have taken a jolt. I barely to into shops anymore myself as too many others in there not following the rules put everyone else at risk

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:15 PM

    @Niall Ó Cofaigh: or the delivery guy who saw me wearing a mask and asked me, do you want me to put on a mask…. unbelievable Jeff.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:33 PM

    @Mairead Jenkins: HELLO THE WET PUBS ARE CLOSED SINCE LAST MARCH!!!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:05 PM

    @Gavin Tobin: Cool story Gav. I wouldn’t place much trust in sources like that. It’s almost as bad as the garbage on FB and WA.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:11 PM

    “Nobody predicted this” Is he serious?

    I came on here before Xmas saying “we’ll pay for this in the new year hundreds of thousands shopping like crazy for a week before Xmas gonna be thousand of cases in January”

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:53 PM

    @Philip Mckenna: you should be CMO…. or Taoiseach…..or King or something! You sure did call that one right! The dog on the street knew there was going to be another big increase as a result of a relaxation but new variants, peoples utter recklessness etc have caused an explosion in cases. If they hadn’t opened retail and hospitality then there’d be just as many complaints about social and economic damage not to mention the “open the pubs” brigade on here. I’m no fan of Martin nor do I have any allegiance to any of the government parties but in many ways it’s a no win situation. They sure could do with your advice at this time!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:19 PM

    @Barry Evans: blame everyone but the government. If they left hospitality closed or open, it wouldn’t matter. There wasn’t one outbreak caused in hospitality, and very few cases in general. The thousands of cases were caused from families gathering around Christmas time. The government lifted restrictions with 400+ cases per day. Recipe for disaster.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:33 PM

    @Tomo: is that not fundamentally the issue with the Irish psychi? Always looking for someone to blame…….

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:00 PM

    @Philip Mckenna: yes, they are paying experts millions, then claiming they could never have foreseen this, when anyone with a modicum of common sense could have told them there would be carnage. Their incredulity is mind boggling.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:54 PM

    @Philip Mckenna: they knew there’d be some kind of increase but the scale of the increase was completely unexpected not even you could have predicted that Philip!

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    Jan 17th 2021, 4:02 AM

    @Barry Evans: utter recklessness????? is that really what the majority of people were doing, after 9 months of restrictions, trying to see their families at xmas, honestly the worlds in trouble of this is deemed reckless, some people may have taken the piss but the vast majority just loosened up a fraction, unfortunately this virus is unforgiving and spreads like wildfire ireland is just like all others where there are spikes in infection rates

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:18 PM

    Yet there’s an outcry over St Patrick’s day all ready. Look what Xmas has done., we cannot have it our way at the expense of others

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:56 PM

    @molly: There is no outcry. Get over yourself with the drama.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:58 PM

    Deaths increase again.
    Caused my selfish inbreds pre Christmas

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:01 PM

    @billy bound: At least you are honest!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:39 PM

    @billy bound: imbreeding is illegal Billy.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:43 PM

    @billy bound: you should have a talk with your selfish inbreds and tell them to stop.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:37 PM

    Stop bringing you children with you for “essential shopping” or force them to wear a mask if you really need to… it’s disgraceful seing the numbers go up but and people blaming diverse industries etc. while the same people are bringing their family of 8 to Tesco only to buy milk… wake up Ireland!

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:57 PM

    @B: I couldn’t get near the bread shelf earlier with all the families of 8 who blame diverse industries in the shop.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:27 PM

    @B: What are the supposed to do? Leave the kids in the car on their own. There is no rule against children in the shops.

    Also children under 13 are advised NOT to wear a face covering. These people are following the rules. If you don’t like them buying milk in Tesco, go somewhere else.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:09 PM

    @Jim Smith: What you should do is stop complaining about the numbers going up then when you’re incapable of seing a simple solution to the problem, level 5 seems like a circus with people like you around

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:10 PM

    @Mills: simple solution to reduce the numbers, that’s all! Irish people are way too hypocritical these days saying RIP when they aren’t even doing anything to stop the spread

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:33 PM

    @B: @B: Firstly, your simple solution is not so simple if your a parent and schools are closed. Where are children supposed to go? Should children just be left home alone when the family runs out of milk?

    Secondly, you know absolutely nothing about me. How about this for a simple solution? Mind your own business.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:26 PM

    @Jim Smith: if Covid would only be my business then yeah I would mind my own business but unfortunately it isn’t…
    numbers are still too high, level 5 is in place and every parent seems too keen to take their child shopping and then later curse at the numbers getting even higher… hypocritical mindset

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:48 PM

    @B: Are you a parent? Seems to me that most parents are most definitely NOT keen on taking their kids shopping with them. Covid or no Covid…

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:11 PM

    @Jim Smith: 49% increase in youth suicides in Japan which are linked to school closures. I can’t post links, but a quick Google search will bring you to the research

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    Jan 17th 2021, 10:33 AM

    @B: Kids in the supermarket? But you’re fine with all the people meeting up in their cars for coffee.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:52 PM

    No let up OMG!! RIP

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:59 PM

    Ppl are not dying in ICU in huge numbers….seems nursing homes are getting hit again

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:21 PM

    If anybody knows any Brazilians whom tend to work in meat factories that flew in to Ireland in the last couple of weeks can you give them a shout and tell them the HSE/HSA is trying to contact them, cheers.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:02 PM

    They are testing less so cases go down.
    Messing with the figures again

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:43 PM

    @billy bound: Guess what else messes with figures? WHO’s guidelines on Covid19 as an underlying cause of death. Very interesting read. An ICD-10 document. Easily found online for now.

    I’d be very interested to hear the purely medical opinions of the doctors who filled out the death certificates for these 60 dead. RIP.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:47 PM

    @billy bound: they are testing who turns up. The “fewer” is 160,000 a week. Only slightly down on previous weeks. The positivity rate is also falling. Which is good.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 3:21 AM

    @billy bound: here are the lab reports for the last 12 days – submitted at 11am each day.

    date – tests – pos – % positive – diff (reported cases)

    05/01 – 19869 – 4462 – 22.2% positive +773 (5235)
    06/01 – 28368 – 6862 – 24.1% positive +974 (7836)
    07/01 – 28609 – 6368 – 22.2% positive +253 (6521)
    08/01 – 27282 – 5152 – 18.8% positive +3096(8248)
    09/01 – 27585 – 4962 – 17.9% positive -138 (4824)
    10/01 – 22949 – 4142 – 18.0% positive +2746(6888)
    11/01 – 18280 – 2845 – 15.5% positive +2084(4929)
    12/01 – 17765 – 2456 – 13.8% positive +612 (3068)
    13/01 – 23590 – 3856 – 16.3% positive -287 (3569)
    14/01 – 28178 – 3854 – 13.6% positive +141 (3995)
    15/01 – 22874 – 3457 – 15.1% positive +41 (3498)
    16/01 – 25114 – 3063 – 12.1% positive +168 (3231)

    You can also see the number of new cases reported (in brackets) – now remember these are both HSE figures so there is no playing with numbers really.

    While the reports say “tests in the last 7 days” they are in fact running a few days behind… so a swab taken on Wednesday and sent to the Lab on Thursday and tested on Friday may appear in the Saturday positive test results and maybe on Saturday or Sunday validated cases count.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:10 PM

    The whole situation is just awful – new cases, deaths, hospitals full, hospital staff at their wits end and vaccinations seemingly quite slow. We must follow the advice and stay at home and, each one of us should ask our God, whoever it may be, to help us through this awful time.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:00 PM

    This may never have gone away without a vaccine… Imagine living life without the hope of vaccination. Just the last year but every day.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:11 PM

    @Oliver Walker: so this magical vaccine is going to make it completely disappear. This virus is changing all the time and probably be around for ever.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:51 PM

    @Oliver Walker: people did in the past and we had restrictions on movements and quarantine and even types of lockdowns… and even enforced removal from society for people who failed to comply. But back there there was little movement of people compared to today where most people own cars and shop in large shopping centers instead of local stores.

    It is interesting to hear the complaints, but Polio and Scarlet Fever were two I remember heading of and many may have heard of TB before antibiotics and I read about GAA games being postponed back in the 50s.

    I cannot imagine what it must have been like before the vaccines.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:50 PM

    @John brett: a vaccine isn’t magical John but it should stop the virus, yes. That’s how they work. The coronavirus mutates like all viruses but not as much as the flu. Therefore the vaccines will continue to work.

    There is an increasing hysteria out there. It seems like some people love the drama and want everybody locked down for ever.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 12:25 AM

    @John brett: I have a special needs child so I never use the word…you sir are Ret-rd-d…

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:13 PM

    I’m sorry I know we should take a lot of the responsibility for these figures but how is it still so high? Surely this isnt all just from people socialising. How long will they wait before the eventually have to admit keeping travel open is a huge factor with these numbers.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:17 PM

    @Adam Ford: because the r0 was 2 when these people got infected. They won’t jusy stop overnight, incubation period is as long as 14 days. And like if u simply put it say for today at 3000 cases & r0 is 2, each person will spread it to 2 people so 6000 cases will occur as a result of today’s 3000 cases! If that makes sense.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:55 PM

    @Greeneyes17: the r0 is clearly not 2 anymore.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 9:44 AM

    @Adam Ford: Deaths are on the rise since the vaccine.. first vaccine was less than 3 weeks ago.. deaths have always been low but over the last 5 days there is over 200.. only difference over the last 9 months is the vaccine. But I suppose I’m a conspiracy theorist for thinking that. This isn’t the work of the ” UK deadly strain ” it’s the vaccines, that is the only thing that has changed.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:55 PM

    Rip to theses poor people Numbers stabilising but a lot of people out there driving and our and about no going to get if we don’t do as we told

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:52 PM

    Death are sad but the new cases have dropped like a stone.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:59 PM

    @john s: wouldn’t say they’ve dropped like a stone they’re still in the thousands,the important figure among all this is the deaths

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:04 PM

    @john s: That’s because they have stopped testing close contacts. Numbers are probably as high as they were a few weeks ago.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:05 PM

    @john s: Hardly like a stone John cop on

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:22 PM

    @larry duff: the issue is that at an average global fatality rate of covid of 3%, there will be about 97 deaths from todays cases alone, that makes the case figures important too

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:30 PM

    @Sarah Jane Morris-Doyle: they said yesterday that the average contacts were now 2.8. They previously stated that on average 10% of close contacts test positive on first test and 2% on second test. But say 10% positivity in close contacts. Every 1000 cases reported today has on average 2800 contacts of which you would expect 280 extra positives per 1000, or 904 for today’s cases. Some of those would go on to display symptoms and get tested and be in later figures. But if even half didn’t we are missing maybe 450 cases today.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:39 PM

    @john s: hardly like a stone but quick quickly. Below are the test and positive result counts as reported daily…. (and the daily confirmed cases in brackets and the difference between them and th positve swab count.)

    06/01 – 28368 – 6862 – 24.1% positive +974 (7836)
    07/01 – 28609 – 6368 – 22.2% positive +253 (6521)
    08/01 – 27282 – 5152 – 18.8% positive +3096(8248)
    09/01 – 27585 – 4962 – 17.9% positive -138 (4824)
    10/01 – 22949 – 4142 – 18.0% positive +2746(6888)
    11/01 – 18280 – 2845 – 15.5% positive +2084(4929)
    12/01 – 17765 – 2456 – 13.8% positive +612 (3068)
    13/01 – 23590 – 3856 – 16.3% positive -287 (3569)
    14/01 – 28178 – 3854 – 13.6% positive +141 (3995)
    15/01 – 22874 – 3457 – 15.1% positive +41 (3498)
    16/01 – 25114 – 3063 – 12.1% positive +168 (3231)

    25,000 tests and 12.1% positive is high but 1/2 the rate of 10 days ago. Sadly the deaths will continue on for longer after the case rate drops.

    It would be interesting to know when the swabs were taken… Wednesday Sswab, Thursday lab, Friday test results posted, Saturday verified. The figures presented are those reported between 11am yesterday and 11am today.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:40 PM

    @D Mems: or taking Ireland’s death rate of 1.9 it 61 deaths.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:51 PM

    @larry duff: the deaths are sad but they are a lagging indicator. Cases are falling as a trend. In the r value were > 1 then the cases would be in the tens of thousands right now.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:52 PM

    @Sarah Jane Morris-Doyle: anybody who is symptomatic is getting tested. Why is everybody here wanting to believe the worst.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:54 PM

    @Niall Ó Cofaigh: nobody is going to like that good news here Niall bit great work.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:20 PM

    This is odd from the department of health
    ‘No new deaths under 30′ one must assume that are referring to C19 if so should it not be, no new deaths under 65?

    “The median age of those who died is 85 years, and the age range is 65 to 100 years. There was no newly reported death in healthcare workers. There was no newly reported death in a young person under the age of 30.”

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:35 PM

    It’s making me so sad saying this almost every day for months. R.. I. P. to those who lost their lives and condolences and comfort to their families and friends. It shouldn’t be this hard for folks. United we stand, divided we will definitely, definitely fall hard.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:05 PM

    Not everyone is dying, nobody missing off the comments on these pages.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:03 PM

    I wonder how many people “in hospital” with Covid-19 were actually in for something else and caught Covid 19 in hospital.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:01 PM

    @Adam Conroy: The majority are in for something else.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:09 PM

    @Joe Moore: I wouldn’t think so. They tried releasing who ever they could from hospitals when the numbers started increasing to make room because they did not know what to expect. So anyone sent in lately was sent in with CoViD-19.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:24 PM

    @Adam Conroy: It would take a week for symptoms to even appear. And people with covid are isolated anyways. So very few if any at all.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 12:27 AM

    @Joe Moore: really? How do you “know” that?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:00 PM

    Very sad

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:34 PM

    Lockdown is not working this time around. What’s plan B?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:23 PM

    @Jim Smith:n95 masks mandatory everywhere outside the home. Open everything up.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:41 PM

    @Urgencia: that should go well.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:50 PM

    @Urgencia: What about when people have to exercise?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:53 PM

    @Jim Smith: Seen plenty of people walking about today with masks on, walking by the way is exercise in case you didn’t know.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:54 PM

    @Urgencia: The research on masks is weak. Do people not realise that Covid spreads in homes!? Not in supermarkets…

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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:23 PM

    @Leonard Barry: So all runners just walk instead then? Problem solved

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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:56 PM

    @Jim Smith: it is working. R value is 1 or less.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:14 PM

    Wonder what Anna Anna thinks now since she basically said there was no pandemic when she incessantly posted daily figures. T00L .. glad to see cases coming down. Hopefully can be controlled this year

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:02 PM

    @Greeneyes17: That’s an unhealthy obsession you have there.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:13 PM

    It’s so sad all those families losing loved ones.there seems no end to it.please keep safe everyone theres plenty of people still walking around shops with they’re masks under there noses.what does it take for people to take this seriously.were grown adults set an example.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:15 PM

    I thought treatments had improved. Why are so many dying now

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:39 PM

    @Sean Nihill: still similar ratio of people dying vs infected. We had same numbers in one or two weeks vs whole pandemic from March to December. Also, to people who are saying numbers are improving, bear in mind that they’re not testing close contacts unless there’s symptoms and I worry that people who are told to self isolate may not be able to due to work or because of home situations

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:59 PM

    Numbers going down I hope we will get back to Level 3 soon.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:05 PM

    @artur filip: if by soon you mean easter, yeah probably.

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    Mute Ian Forbes
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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:07 PM

    @Mark: and that’s optimistic

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    Mute artur filip
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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:16 PM

    @Mark: I was hopping sooner than that.

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    Mute united86
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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:59 PM

    A riddled nation

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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:02 PM

    Lobby groups for Restaurants and pubs gone remarkably quite.

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    Mute Christina Colling
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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:15 PM

    On my way to work and I see a huge line of ppl waiting to.buy their coffee outside hook and ladder. Seriously. The mind boggles

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    Mute Joe Moore
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    Jan 16th 2021, 8:55 PM

    @Christina Colling: Not allowed Coffee either. People are going stir crazy. Your lucky you have a job to go to…

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    Mute Lorna Reilly
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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:22 PM

    @Joe Moore: absolutely. There’s only so many walks and trips to lidl that we can do.

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    Mute Xylophobiac
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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:52 PM

    Sound.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 5:53 PM

    @Xylophobiac: troll

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    Jan 17th 2021, 12:28 AM

    @Looney Tunes: you spelled tool wrong…

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    Mute Rie Ruane
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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:04 PM

    Nothing to do with levels. We all knew this was going to happen after all the interaction at Christmas between friends and families. Yet many (but not all mixed thinking it was going to be ok). Human behaviour to blame. So sad for families losing loved ones and the medics who have to work around the clock

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    Mute GrumpyAulFella
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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:43 PM

    Positivity rate is continuing to fall. We’ve another few weeks to ride out the storm. We need to get case numbers into the low hundreds and positivity < 5 to even consider loosening the lockdown I would say.

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    Mute Michael Maher
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    Jan 16th 2021, 11:35 PM

    There is no point in having a blame game this thing is a virus that can not be stopped .
    As soon as numbers are down and lockdowns lifted it looks like it will keep coming back.
    Better get used to the fact it is here to stay. Survival of the fittest.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:42 PM

    Does anybody know what the R number is? I haven’t seen it mentioned in a while and can’t find any information on Google?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 6:55 PM

    @FrustratedASDMum: R>>1 unfortunately?

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    Jan 16th 2021, 7:35 PM

    @John Kinsella: Thanks John. Is there any website where this information is available?

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    Mute Ciaran O'Reilly
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    Jan 16th 2021, 9:35 PM

    False sense of security, they stop testing close contacts so the numbers are dropping due to this.

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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:02 PM

    @Ciaran O’Reilly: Exactly. What should also be noted is that, as they are now no longer testing close contacts, these numbers are true numbers of those suffering of CoViD-19, and no asymptomatic carriers of SARS-COV-2 are included.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 2:32 AM

    Firstly not trying to belittle anyone who has died of Covid but in the first 10 months of 2020 22,416 people died in Ireland of this figure 6.5% (1,462) related to Covid 19. Cancer and Heart Disease Accounted for 58.7% (13,155). A total of 20,954 died unrelated to Covid 19 and no one other then the deceased family and friends shed a tear for 93.5% of these deaths. Covid is real but it’s more serious because the Government/HSE have failed to provide us with adequate health services which they have been aware for more then 10 years.

    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/fr/fr-ucd2020/analysisofunderlyingcauseofdeathdataincludingcovid-19januarytooctober2020/

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    Jan 17th 2021, 10:24 AM

    @Derek Kelly: I think you mean 40 years

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    Mute Alan Scott
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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:15 PM

    How are deaths up and cases down here we go

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    Jan 16th 2021, 10:26 PM

    @Alan Scott: Seriously, if you don’t relise why at this stage, you are either a child or a troll.

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    Jan 17th 2021, 10:37 AM

    So 59 of those 60 deaths are from Jan and 1 from Dec and there were 50 recorded the day before so 9 deaths yesterday. Can someone correct me if I’m wrong.
    Why are NPHET trying to now confuse us or what is being covered up???

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    Jan 17th 2021, 2:32 AM

    Firstly not trying to belittle anyone who has died of Covid but in the first 10 months of 2020 22,416 people died in Ireland of this figure 6.5% (1,462) related to Covid 19. Cancer and Heart Disease Accounted for 58.7% (13,155). A total of 20,954 died unrelated to Covid 19 and no one other than the deceased family and friends shed a tear for 93.5% of these deaths. Covid is real but it’s more serious because the Government/HSE have failed to provide us with adequate health services which they have been aware for more then 10 years.

    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/fr/fr-ucd2020/analysisofunderlyingcauseofdeathdataincludingcovid-19januarytooctober2020/

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