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NEW GUIDELINES THAT urge gays to consider taking antiretroviral drugs to prevent HIV infection are based on individual choice and do not apply to all cases, the UN’s health agency said today.
The recommendations – aimed at tackling a worrying spread of the AIDS virus among homosexuals – were unveiled ahead of the International AIDS Conference in Melbourne, Australia from July 20-25.
In them, the World Health Organisation (WHO) for the first time said it “strongly recommends” that men who have sex with men “consider taking antiretroviral medicines as an additional method of preventing HIV infection”.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) made a similar recommendation in May but specified that drugs were recommended if a gay individual was at risk of infection.
This would be the case, for instance, if the man had a partner with HIV or had multiple sex partners whose virus status was unknown.
Gottfried Hirnschall, head of the WHO’s HIV department, said in a telephone interview that the UN agency was making a broad recommendation that patients should consider individually, according to their circumstances.
It sought to make gays aware that antiretroviral drugs, when used with condoms, could be part of a preventive shield for those who may be courting HIV infection.
“If you live in a stable relationship or a serocordant relationship with both partners HIV negative and you have no risk, you have absolutely no reason to take” the drugs, Hirnschall said.
“If it’s a serodiscordant relationship, where one is (HIV)-positive and the other is (HIV-)negative, this might be an option that the (HIV-)negative partner considers.”
He added a cautious word about HIV drugs.
“We haven’t seen really a very high level of side effects with the studies but these are drugs, these are medicines, so somebody obviously needs to take this into consideration in making their decision.”
The recommendations for gays were part of a new look at how to protect social groups that are at greater risk of catching HIV.
Unlike in the United States, the WHO did not add preventive antretroviral use to its guidelines for injecting drug users or sex workers, partly because of concerns from those groups about the repercussions of this, Hirnschall said.
The guidelines may be finetuned in 2015, Hirnschall added.
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It was disgraceful (and I suspect they will find another way around it) that out TDs who survive almost solely on taxpayers money, are allowed to spend 10s and quite possibly 100s of millions of taxpayers money on self promotion, advertising and gov spin.
@Hayden Spain: it was Labour in the UK who spouted utter lies and have left an absolute trail of distrust in politicians across the UK. Alastair Campbell, never elected, sat at cabinet solely to control communication and the news cycle. He would threaten and destroy people who challenged him and challenged the lies. The Thick Of It is all about Labour and their lies.
@Paul Fahey: That was in Tony Blair’s time. Another one who governed by image, spin and lies.
@Dave Doyle: Spot on Dave, Blair was owned by nefarious forces. British Labour are a different party today and a much better proposition for the UK than Teresa May and the Tories.
@Adrian: I think you mean the bold Leo not all TD’s as seen from this vote…..
@Frank Cauldhame: Makes you wonder who owns Leo.
Lots of accounts going missing around here so in the next few days.. or is the fraperoom still in action?
@Vigo the Carpathian: They’ll be along soon linking the vote to , I dunno, a bomb that went off 45 years ago or something..
@Coles: It must have been exhausting in there…
@Vigo the Carpathian:
Believe it or not, some people use their own accounts and explain express their own opinions. We don’t all have to follow party mandate
@Vigo the Carpathian: Tin foil suppliers need not worry about sales dropping off it would seem.
@Vigo the Carpathian: There’s probably a SF article being made up at the moment to give them something to use as deflection.
@Dave Doyle: I’d say FG have been hacking Sinnfeinologist’s twitter accounts to make it look like they have zero decency, nor any concept or interest of the rule of law in this country.
Now where did I put my hat….
@Dave Doyle: oh boy! What would any one need to make up about SF! They so good at creating so many controversies without any help from anyone else!
In one week SF have had two members suspended.. one for a tweet and one for voting against the party.. In the same time frame the government have had Leo caught taking credit for getting planning permissions refused in a supposedly independent process , Shane Ross taking credit for securing funds meant for disadvantaged schools for one of the wealthiest schools in the country which just happens to be in his constituency and the entire government just got their asses handed to them for spending FIVE MILLION EURO OF TAXPAYERS MONEY on their own personal propaganda wing.. and there’s not even a word of anyone being suspended.. NOT ONE..At least SF took action on what compared to the governments indiscretions relatively minor issues… Not a squeak from the government about benching anyone…
@Vigo the Carpathian: “One for a tweet”….you mean the one openly mocking the family of a murdered servant of this State, a murder carried out by people known to SF.
And now you’re on here trying to claim a high moral ground for The Church of Sinnfeinology?
Unbelievable.
@MK76: Not biting sweetie.. Don’t change the subject… How come nobody has been suspended or benched for the absolute clusterfuсk of a week they’ve had at the taxpayers expense?
@Vigo the Carpathian: The subject is the SCU, not the Sinnfeinologist’s abhorrent attitudes towards decency and rule of law in this country.
You’ll find you were the one off subject, but trying to give The Church credit for their gross behaviour.
@MK76: Mocking the family? Don’t think so .. the retweet stated an opinion about the character of the deceased. And ‘sinnfeinology’ still isn’t sticking, sorry.
@MK76: Oh poor baby.. Still not biting on the deflection.. How can someone authorise 5 million euro of taxpayers money be spent on a propaganda wing, trigger a debate and a vote in our national parliament that gives the government an almighty kick in the teeth and still keep their job ? That just look bad on so many levels…
@Vigo the Carpathian: Ah, now I see the penny has dropped. You’ve realised you were the one who was trying glorify The Sinnfeinologists for disgusting behaviour, on a topic that has nothing to with them.
As moronic as it is transparent.
@Bart Teeling: I assume you’ve actually read the disgusting tweet Bart. If not, please do.
Hilarious that the Sinnfeinologists on a daily basis point out that “it isn’t sticking”. Delicious irony. At least it’s better than having the comments removed. You go guys.
@MK76: Muhahahahahaha…..
Quick, look over there….
@G O’Rourke: You’ll find it was Dave Doyle and Vigo who brought up The Sinnfeinologists on this sub-thread, but sure don’t let the facts get in the way.
@Vigo the Carpathian: They always defend the indefensible right to the end remember hard a comissioner and Francis Fitzgerald
How on earth is Leo going to choose appropriate novelty socks when meeting world leaders? That’s hardly fair now is it?
@Shakka1244: fear not the fascist propaganda will continue through state sponsored one sided reporters like rte
@Shakka1244:
His socks seem to all be in the wash tonight.
Come out ya cowards.
@jon-boy55:
Fear not, more BS from John boy
This is how invasive and intrusive Leo’s SCU was becoming.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/leo-varadkars-spin-unit-at-heartof-key-decisions-468509.html
Undemocratic and totally party political.
It had started to take on shades of 1930s Germany in that Concannon was like Leo’s personal Goebbels.
@Dave Doyle: Its outrageous behaviour, something akin to the Stasi.
@Dot Com: .. or something that Francisco Franco would have pulled..
Nice to see leo taking one ,he is in love with his own image and tends to see nothing else .the scu was only ever a private pr vehicle for the blueshirts
@Anthony Gallagher:
Leo the northern white rhino, like the dodo has been declared extinct extinct
GSOC needed 12 extra staff in order to do their important work but request denied and they only got 5extra staff!Why bother to set up oversight bodies if they are denied sufficient staff or resources?
SCU is supposed to have 15staff and cost €5,900,000 a year(went up by extra €900,000 late last year!) ie €113,461 a WEEK /€453,844 a MONTH!
Will it be retained I wonder despite Dail vote?This is the most powerful Minority Government I’ve ever seen,sure Referendum to enshrine our water services and infrastructure in public ownership was agreed in Dail but dismissed by Taoiseach!Where’s the respect for Democracy, people’s votes&the Dail?
@Nuala Mc Namara: It is more like a DICTATORSHIP very dangerous territory. Propaganda machines press reporting edited version of the news of the news. Anyone see where we are headed
Funny that RTE six one ignored the story. Completely. 85 elected Dáil representatives vote against the government and it does not even get a mention. The piece now seems to have been removed from all RTE media platforms. Very strange.
Golly gosh!
No a single Blueshirt has yet commented….still recovering I guess!
@Dessie Deratta: It’s actually gone eerily quite around all threads since the announcement has been made… Wow… I’m… I’m.. kinda scared…
#feelsickwithLeo
(eh Frank?)
Sorry folks, “Frank Murphy” is busy picking out Leo’s socks for tomorrow.
@j4VEpUO8: He’s #FeelingGoodWithTaoisock
@Incognito: lol
This thread requires a giant tub of popcorn
About bloody time. Utter waste of money and time.
Humiliating and embarrassing for the Leo show.Tail between the legs for the Blueshirt crew.Imagine having to set up a spin unit in the first place.Cringey stuff…
Interesting how RTE Six One blatantly ignored the story. 84 elected repreststives vote against the government and it was news. Instead we had a piece about Metro North. The piece seems to have now disappeared from all RTE media platforms. How strange.
@Paul Francis Quinn: Last night half the members of the FF who are supposed to be propping up FG voted against them and what did we get ? A story on the one SF member who voted against her party’s wishes… And now the usual heads are back pointing fingers..
Good to see FF voting against the Govt on the truly important items for the people
In one week SF have had two members suspended, one for a tweet and one for voting against the party.. In the same time frame the government have had Leo caught taking credit for getting planning permissions refused in a supposedly independent process , Shane Ross taking credit for securing funds meant for disadvantaged schools for one of the wealthiest schools in the country which just happens to be in his constituency and the entire government just got their asses handed to them for spending FIVE MILLION EURO OF TAXPAYERS MONEY on their own personal propaganda wing.. and there’s not even a word of anyone being suspended.. NOT ONE..At least SF took action on what compared to the governments indiscretions are relatively minor issues… Not a squeak from the government about benching anyone.
@Vigo the Carpathian: Defaming a murder victim is disgusting. It’s not a minor issue. You have said the murder was justified. That’s also not a minor issue and equally disgusting. You really live in some parallel universe.
@Honeybadger197: Not the topic their hun.. and I’m not biting as you try to spin this in another direction… Nobody in government has been sanctioned despite flat out admitting that they acted illegally…
@Vigo the Carpathian:* there
@Honeybadger197: Still with the faux outrage.
Leo in his stupidity will ignore the Dail vote on his SCU. This will be giving two fingers to Dail Eireann.
There will be genuine outrage when he does. And if FF have any sense it will be the right time to pull the plug on this destructive minority government.
@Vigo the Carpathian: Illegally? Whats that line certain supporters roll out? Oh yeah, if you have evidence of any illegality you must bring it to….
I honestly dont care if you “bite”. You’re the guy who said the premeditated murder of a public servant was justified. You have some neck to moan about illegal anyyhing.
@Honeybadger197: Don’t need proof.. Have admissions of guilt from the horses mouths so wind your head in there… hun…
@Honeybadger197: You ok there?
You seem to be commenting on a different subject.
This article is about Leo’s spin department.
@G O’Rourke: Anything to change the subject ..Guaranteed he’ll accuse you of doing it though. The cracks are showing at FGHQ this evening…
@Vigo the Carpathian: Admissions of illegality? Really? Where?
@Honeybadger197: Here Honeybadger spin this âBut as we all know, President Trump doesnât work like that.Heâs a very direct man, likes to get things done. So at the other end of the phone was Donald Trump saying to me he had bought this resort in Ireland in Co Clare â a beautiful golf resort called Doonbeg.But there was a problem nearby, somebody was trying to build a wind farm and that, of course, could have a real impact on tourism and the beauty of the landscape.I ENDEAVOURED TO DO WHATEVER I COULD ABOUT IT and I rang the county council and inquired about the planning permission, and subsequently the planning permission was declined and the wind farm was never built. Thus, the landscape had been preserved and the president has kindly given me credit for that.I do think it probably would have been refused anyway but I AM VERY HAPPY TO TAKE CREDIT FOR IT if the President is going to offer it to me.â
@Vigo the Carpathian: Sorry, spin what exactly? Will i courier over a few more straws for you to grab on to? :)
It is tragically ironic that you lose your mind over a few words, but feel that premeditated murder is ok. As i said, a parallel universe.
@Honeybadger197: The topic could be about teletubbies and you and Frank would reel in a few IRA killings.. Maybe something like…’The IRA denied children the right to watch the teletubbies for 40 years’. That kind of thing? Now that your grubby propaganda unit is against the wishes of the people of Ireland, will you all kindly disband and decommission?
@Bart Teeling: Good man Bart. Vigo alluded to the IRA murder. I merely followed up on his dismissal of its significance. Comprehension not your forte?
@Honeybadger197: Still trying to spin it there.. Not biting .. It’s over for you guys…You’re spin has been outed for the entire country to see in the Dail and even the party that propping FG up, a party that’s visited some of the most disgusting betrayals on the people of this country has voted against them because what FG have done here is beyond The Pale even for them.. Think about that… FG have just succeeded in sickening FF..That is fu#cing priceless…
@Honeybadger197: Seriously, Jimmy, stop embarrassing yourself….
Just stop.
@Honeybadger197:
Try reverse spin.
That’s how Leo prefers his socks
Whos gonna pick his sock out for him now?
Leonand Reginas personal police force. The new SCU unit. https://mobile.twitter.com/Emm511/status/976604880227000321/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.broadsheet.ie%2F2018%2F03%2F22%2Fpolice-before-people%2F
Best news i’ve heard all day!
Now let’s see the government, who is “under no obligation to abolish the SCU…”
wipe the egg off their face.
@Patty Cullinane: If only they listened to anyone else.
Has FG’s fraperoom been closed down already?
Where’s Frank(s)?
@G O’Rourke: See above… Three of the usual accounts popped up almost simultaneously… Funny that ain’t it… All pushing the anti-SF angle… Hmmm… They must have been given till Monday..Their hearts won’t be in it though…
@Vigo the Carpathian: Yeah and all commenting on the same parts of the thread together. Totally ignoring the first comment thread.
Power corrupts,absolute power corrupts absolutely.Its human nature.If we found ourselves in the same position we would probably do the same.Im not saying its right,those in power seek to keep it.From the shop worker who are the most vocal against the managers,once promoted becomes the same…again its who we are.
@Dave Walsh: It doesn’t mean we have to silently accept it. The lessons of history tells us it can only go on for so long.
@Dave Doyle: not condoning it just offering an opinion on it…Decent is what keeps a democracy straight…right?
I wonder. What are pension arrangements in that Strategic unit? Somehow I do feel that it will be some strategically planned golden parachute in case that it gets abolished. No matter how long one worked there.
@Pat Patovic: I’m sure Concannon will find himself well looked after with a payment or a cushy number.
Another waste of tax payers money! Evoting machines, irish water, eircodes, etc what a complete shambles!!! Wheres the homeless crisis at? Wheres the increase in transport, gatda recruitment etc etc … stupid poxy government
If anyone read the article properly it clearly states the government is under no obligation to abolish the SCU following the vote! Nothing will change and the whole vote was a total waste of time!
@David Farrell: Maybe but at least the strength of feeling has been made known and if it isn’t abolished it’s going to be brought up wholesale come election time.
@Catherine Sims:And bonus points for the fact that it has given Varadker the public slapdown that his arrogance deserves
@David Farrell: After FF voting against the SCU they cannot accept it if FG and Leo ignore the vote.
It could and should mean the end of the coalition.
@David Farrell: Except that SF could then table a motion of no confidence in the government, and FF would look rather foolish if they backed down….
Surprised FG let this go for a vote, a bit stupid really as it was on a hiding to nothing and it would have looked better to get rid of it themselves rather than being told it. Just shows, maybe Leo actually needs a PR team. It will save a few quid for us and it will be interesting to see how effective the PR is without them
@Nick Allen: Enda’s earpiece would have been cheaper.
@Dave Doyle: maybe they can take some hints from SF on how to conduct themselfs when on Twitter.. actually maybe not!
@Paddy: You mean learn something along the lines of NOT using taxpayer money to fund your own propaganda wing and try to pass advertising off as actual news? Something like that Paddy?
@Paddy: You okay hun?
@Incognito:
Do you call everyone Hun that isn’t in SF?
@Paddy: More importantly we’ll see how Leo conducts in light of this vote.
That will be very telling.
@Dave Doyle: * conducts himself*
Insecure and inexperienced people from politicians to chief executives constantly fall under the spell of an element in marketing that is more mumbo jumbo than science.
You tube on in the background and “go on home British soldiers, go on home…” blaring out! I thought it appropriate for a particular poster with multiple identities, who was made redundant by today’s Sinn Fein motion!
@John Dman: Hahahaha… Come out ye Black and Tans!
@John Dman: Add Viva la Quinte Brigada..”when the bishops bless the Blueshirts in Dun Laoghaire as they sailed beneath the swastika to Spain” LOL
It must be awful for the crowing “supporters” that more people have viewed the cricket story than this article. Personally, i feel they should try and centralise the PR functions across all government departments/ state agencies – it could take a large bite out of the €170million annual budget.
@Honeybadger197: Still came over for a look though. So, the FG line now is ‘other stories have more views’?
That’s pathetic.
@Father Hody Commody: Lol. Good one. I was testing out Vigos line – he used it the other night on a SF story. Thank you.
@Father Hody Commody: Oh I’m sure the view count will spike now the remnants of the SCU have been given their orders…
@Vigo the Carpathian: Father Hody says using the view count is a pathetic angle Vigo. You’ll have to park it as a deflection tool for now. I’m delighted he bit though. :)
@Honeybadger197: Can’t come up with your own arguments so just steal someone else’s…eh ? I’m flattered…
@Honeybadger197: Leo is turning into another Tony Blair. And we seen how dangerous that liar was and is still trying to be.
Do you actually think that is what people want to see in government.
@Dave Doyle: We’ll see at the next GE dave.
@Honeybadger197:
The Northern White Rhino has been found out and gone to Dodo Land.
Stop whinging, get over it. As one of Leo’s socks you really need replacing and for the same reason one would change a nappy.
@Vigo the Carpathian: I knew one of your contemporaries would jump on and take a big old bite. You should be insulted too, Father Hody says its pathetic. ;)
@Honeybadger197: And? It must be a lonely trail you walk not being able to think for yourself. Even more pathetic. You’ve tried the ‘look over there’ line how many times on this thread? FG just can’t get the staff these days. I’m sure there’s some money left in the coffers to buy some facebook likes though.
@Father Hody Commody: I thought you’d be off apologising to Vigo for calling his genius “view count” pathetic? No? Well you should. It was very rude. ;)
@Honeybadger197: Indeed we will Honey.
@Honeybadger197: Not biting at the deflection bright boy…
“Shane Ross @Shane_RossTD..Delighted to confirm that @wesleycollege has been granted €150,000 as part of Sports Capital Programme. The funding will ensure the resurfacing of the hockey pitch and will benefit the school as well as @YMCAHC” Oh was that Wossie taking ownership of that by confirming the grant in person… Diddums … That doesn’t look good…Not good at all…However will the SCU spin that…
@Vigo the Carpathian: I wonder how you’ll spin this: https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
@Honeybadger197:
Leo doesn’t give a baboon’s bare wet arse what you think. He may not be around at the next election. Today he is being compared to the Third Reich leaders. Leo is a complete embarrassment to FG rank and file members and is viewed as a Puckoon character by our friends overseas.
@Christy Nolan: rank and file FG … let’s not forget the majority of whom voted against him. Like Trump he was elected by a minority of people …FG type democracy, would put the shiners to shame … but then neither SF nor FG do shame !!!!
In the blueshirt mind , anti-FG spin and lies = ‘shinner’.
Who needs mandatory IQ testing??????
@G O’Rourke: your man above is a prime example. Can see all that is wrong in SF .. but nothing in FG.
Then again he admitted voting for FF in the 90 ‘s when the dogs in the street could smell the stench of corruption around them.
The Shinners complain that there are no anti morons commenting. We comment and all you get in response is BS. Maybe instead of changing the age for voting they should introduce mandatory IQ tests. That should see the Shinners disappear very quickly
The government don’t have time follow through with the abolishment of spin group,it’s just a show by these crooks
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