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Health Minister Stephen Donnelly Oireachtas TV

HSE ransomware attack: 'Is it possible that sensitive information has been downloaded? Unfortunately, yes'

The health minister and Taoiseach have been among those fielding questions in the Dáil on the cyber attack today.

MINISTER FOR HEALTH Stephen Donnelly has said that “unfortunately, it is possible” that sensitive personal information of patients could’ve been compromised by the HSE ransomware attack. 

Speaking in the Dáil this evening, Donnelly said security experts are working through “server by server” to establish the extent of the information that may have been taken by the hackers.

“The criminals behind this assault are utterly contemptible,” he said. “We will overcome the effects of this assault on our public health system. I’d like to reassure colleagues that we are doing all we can to ensure that we resume services as quickly and as safely as possible.”

Fielding questions from Sinn Féin’s David Cullinane, the health minister said that the latest briefing he’d received on the matter “alluded to files that have been put up online, which were heavily redacted”. 

“At the time of the briefing, there had not been verification as to whether or not these were genuine files,” Donnelly said. “My understanding from the briefing was that criminal organisations will use false records to try and extract funding. 

It is going to take some time for the security experts to give us a full view right across the systems as to exactly what information is available. But is it possible that sensitive information has been downloaded? Unfortunately, that is possible, yes.

Under attack

At Leaders’ Questions earlier today, Taoiseach Micheál Martin had defended the State’s capacity to deal with cyber crime following the attack on the HSE.

Aontú leader Peadar Toibin said the Government’s record on protection from cyber attacks was “shockingly poor”.

He criticised the five million euro budget given to the National Cyber Security Centre (NCSC) last year.

Toibin told the Dail: “The former chief executive of the HSE, Tony O’Brien, stated this week that the HSE’s expenditure on IT security is ‘about a quarter of what you would expect compared with other health systems’.

“Taoiseach, that’s a phenomenally difficult thing to deal with, that the person who was head of the HSE in recent times is saying that the Government is spending a quarter of what it should be with regards to cyber security.

“The NCSC has been given a budget of just five million euros.

“How can the Government claim to be fulfilling their duty of care to Ireland against cyber attacks?”

Toibin told the Dáil the NCSC has just 25 staff and no dedicated premises, something denied by the Taoiseach, who accused the Aontu leader of a “melodramatic presentation”.

Micheál Martin also rejected the assertion that the NCSC is underfunded, noting that in the last budget funding for the centre had been trebled.

He added: “Since I’ve become Taoiseach, I’ve been very focused on the overall national cyber security threat.

“We’ve significantly increased funding for the National Cyber Security Centre, but also within the HSE itself, both capital and current funding has gone up dramatically over the last number of years.”

He added: “We have very good capacity within our system in terms of the quality of the personnel available, that is dealing with this particular issue.

“And it has been dealt with in the correct manner, contain the problem, remedy, restore, and protect.

“Our overriding objective is to get services up as quickly as we possibly can for patients. We have to do it methodically, we have to do it properly and in a way that’s robust to further attack.

“That’s why, unfortunately, it is and would take some time to get services fully restored, because we are prioritising key areas, as you know.”

Budget 2021 saw an increase of €3.4 million in funding for the NCSC to €5.1 million, up from €1.7 million the previous year.

The Government has rejected ransom demands from the crime gang responsible, and has focused on restoring all medical services as quickly as possible.

But there are concerns that if ransom demands are not met, personal data belonging to thousands of patients could be sold online.

The impact of the attack on services is expected to last throughout this week and beyond, with thousands of patients facing cancelled appointments and delays.

Private and voluntary hospitals will be brought on board to ease the burden, with “alternative processes” to be put in place for urgent cancer care needs.

With reporting from PA

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 8:54 AM

    Obviously the people vandalising the shop are uneducated Gobsh!tes.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:17 AM

    There’s a swastika symbol in Buddhism and hinduism (and other religions as well) that represents represents peace and well being. In Buddhism, the swastika signifies auspiciousness and good fortune as well as the Buddha’s footprints and the Buddha’s heart. Although it has been a positive symbol in these religions for thousands of years, it’s a pity that now the western world can only connect it with Nazism, that has existed less than a hundred years.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:37 AM

    I thought one of the symbols was clockwise and one anti-clockwise?

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:54 AM

    Too true John. …and where did this happen again ? Haha.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 11:48 AM

    Most of the time they are opposite directions. But the Buddhist or Hindu symbol can sometimes be the same direction as the Nazi one. Have a look at this article. Even Coca-Cola was using it in their advertising. How the world loved the swastika – until Hitler stole it – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29644591

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 12:55 PM

    Symbols are read by the right side of our brain, words and language by the rational left side of our brain.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 8:54 AM

    Shall we boycott Internet Service Providers for using IS-IS routing protocol as well?

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:31 AM

    Boss

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 6:32 PM

    Radisson SAS hotels …

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:01 AM

    I’m just gonna boycott the word IS from now on! Think this … one of the best ideas I have ever had!

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:05 AM

    ‘Tis and ’tisn’t

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:21 AM

    ‘T… and t’…n’t

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:23 AM

    Me took the two offend*ng letterz off my keyboard. One can’t take too many chancez theze dayz.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 11:59 AM

    Well it has been suggested by brighter minds than my own that if everyone replaced the word ‘is’ from their speech with ‘might be’ or ‘seems to me to be the case that’, then we’d have a discourse much less driven by competition over truths and much closer to the reality as portrayed by zen buddhism and quantum mechanics. I was part of a group called ‘The Maybe Logic Academy’ for some time.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 12:06 PM

    Me not “take” cookee, me EAT the cookee.

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    Nov 28th 2015, 6:44 PM

    @ Anne de Croix

    so sick and tired of people mourning one side and ignoring the other

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:01 AM

    Just change to WasWas

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 8:49 AM

    There’s a company that produce audiobooks called Isis aswell. You’ll see them in your local library. There a lot longer than the new Isis crowd.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 8:59 AM

    If I saw a shop that in the real world “today” signifies kill all infidels. I would cross the road to say the least.

    Imagine if a fully veiled Muslim walked in, you would just grab your copy of the Koran and exit stage left.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:15 AM

    I’d say Fred you wouldn’t let your child see a paediatrician either, you know, just in case.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:42 AM

    In the Marks and Spencer Christmas catalogue there’s a new perfume called Isis…..

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:03 AM

    Could be them, making the extra few bob. The true fragrance of the desert, made from cactus & camels p!ss

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 1:20 PM

    Tom Kenny – camels p!ss more like your own p!ss mate …

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 3:24 PM

    The dog in downton abbey is named isis

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 3:24 PM

    I’ll sell you some if you want and then you are free to do what you like with it

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    Nov 28th 2015, 6:42 PM

    there is a pub up the country called Larry Murphy;s

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:03 AM

    Psychics 7 days a week….he must have known it was goin to happen..

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:27 AM

    Well spotted sir.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 8:57 AM

    Same people that go around beating up people called Ira.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:24 AM

    There are some morons out there…

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:44 AM

    Not only out there, you just need to take a look at some of the comments here

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:14 AM

    I’d imagine the publicity isn’t hurting business

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:54 AM

    They even killed off Lord Granthams dog Isis in Downton Abbey due to public pressure. Even though the dogs first appearance predated ISIS/ISIL

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:55 AM

    Need to up security on the International Space Station ..ISS …

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:59 AM

    Terrible just terribl

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:17 AM

    Hate disarms intelligence and rationality. Hateful people tend to be extremely stupid.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:29 AM

    Opening the fortune cookies again Fiona?

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:46 AM

    Thank you, Larry, for proving Fiona’s point

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:51 AM

    They’ll have to boycott Bob Dylan too. He recorded Isis 40 years ago – probably before a lot of the current shower were even born. https://youtu.be/wXfZLMk7gyA

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    Nov 28th 2015, 6:46 PM

    @ wiklagirl

    They’ll have to boycott Harrison Ford too. He enabled that pedophile Roman Polanski

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:13 AM

    Be careful now on WWN the Daesh might change the name to Déise!!!!!!

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:52 AM

    There was an ISIS back in the 90s

    Israeli Secret Intelligence Services

    I shit you not.

    Anyways, Denver Colorado? I see a South Park episode on Ancient Egyptian religious (in)tolerance writing itself here!

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 9:15 AM

    How can they mistake the name of the shop for Isis when it is called Isis………

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 12:04 PM

    Some American christians would damage anything named ISIS if they knew it was an Egyptian goddess!

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    Mute Connor Saváge
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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:13 AM

    Heres a ground breaking idea: Rename the shop, you idiot. Case closed.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 12:22 PM

    What eventually happened to the Swastika Laundry in Dublin? I saw a clip recently with one of their vans in it from the 60. I’d be interested to hear more of the story of it.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:07 AM

    In the present climate though, if I was the owner I would change the name tbh. Makes sense. And it’s not giving into Isis at all. It’s simply common sense in business terms.

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    Mute Tom Kenny
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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:55 AM

    No it doesn’t, like the saying goes, no such thing as bad publicity. If he had to pay to reach the same audience, he’d be paying millions, how much is a sign ?

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    Mute Missyb211
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    Nov 22nd 2015, 12:00 PM

    It would be giving in.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 10:27 AM

    If I were in business Isis would not be a name under any situation and I had a business named Isis before this shower came along I would have it changed right away because there’s people all over the world hurting in a terrible way because of these fanatics .

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 11:28 AM

    Yeah, just do exactly what the vandals want you to do. That’ll show ‘em whose boss.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 5:02 PM

    This reminds me of the Swastika Laundry that was on Shelbourne Road in Dublin from the early 20th century until the early 90′s (late 80′s?). The used to have a little framed article on the wall that explained the history of the Swastika symbol and how the laundry business pre-dated the Nazi regime by many decades – it was pointed at by the staff to explain reality to the ignorant morons who regularly came in, telling them that they were a disgrace, etc:
    Moron: “How dare you name this business after the Nazi’s!”
    Staff member: “Read the article on the wall by the door.”

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 12:13 PM

    Hello

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 2:50 PM

    I’m surprised Apple haven’t sued them yet.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 11:01 PM

    There is dumb and then there Isis dumber.

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    Nov 22nd 2015, 8:58 PM

    There’s an ISIS beauty salon in Lucan.

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