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16 breathtaking Hubble images that changed the way we view the Universe

We have much to thank Hubble for at its 25th birthday.

TODAY MARKS THE 25th anniversary of when the world-famous Hubble Space Telescope was first launched into space.

This revolutionary telescope, which uses a series of high-resolution cameras to observe the visible universe, has sparked the awe of the public with its stunning images and captured the hearts of the scientific community with its wealth of data.

From the mysterious nature of dark matter to the birth of stars and the atmospheric composition of exoplanets, Hubble has taught us about the many dazzling wonders of our universe during its 25 years in space.

Although exoplanets are too distant and small to photograph, Hubble measured the first chemical composition of an exoplanet in 2001. Below is the artistic image that NASA created to represent these findings.

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Before Hubble and Very Large Array (VLA) combined forces to create this image, astronomers thought that only elliptical galaxies could produce powerful jets of subatomic particles, like the jet indicated above in false-color red.

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Thanks to Hubble, we now know that at the center of every galaxy is a supermassive black hole and that the larger the size of a galaxy’s central bulge, the more massive its black hole.

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Believe it or not, this is a real Hubble image, and that bizarre blue ring toward the right is an optical illusion produced when gravity bends light in a phenomenon called gravitational lensing. Astronomers have used this technique to discover some of the smallest, faintest, most distant galaxies in our universe. 

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This is a Hubble image of the Crab Nebula, a beautiful look at what remains after a star explodes and goes supernova.

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In 2006, Hubble set its sites on the mesmerising Orion Nebula and discovered 16 planets nuzzled within its beautiful confines. Before the Kepler Spacecraft launched in 2009 and began searching the galaxy for exoplanets, the number of known planets outside of our solar system was limited. This Hubble discovery was a momentous find that strongly hinted at the prevalence of planets throughout our universe.

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In 2012, scientists announced that they had discovered a fifth moon around Pluto. They used Hubble to find the latest, and tiniest member of Pluto’s moon menagerie that is only between 10 and 25 kmacross. In the Hubble image below, you can see three of Pluto’s moons: Cheron, Nix, and Hydra.

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Jupiter’s Great Red Spot, a massive, centuries-old storm adorning the face of the planet is shrinking. Earlier this year, recent Hubble images of the Great Red Spot were released that indicated it is less than half the size it was in the 19th century.

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These are two Hubble images of the same object. The left image was taken in May 2002 while the right image was taken over six months later.
It was first spotted when astronomers observed a bright light pulse — 600,000 times brighter than our sun — coming from a star about 20,000 light years from Earth. The star faded, but the light it emitted continued to travel outward, illuminating the star’s surrounding nebula. The light hits the gas of the nebula and then bounces off in different directions, and some of that reflected light heads toward Earth. This phenomenon is called a light echo and is what made this famous Hubble image to the right possible.

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The star at the center of this Hubble image of the Cat’s Eye Nebula is called a red giant star, which is what our sun will eventually become after it runs out of hydrogen to burn.

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This Hubble image of the Eagle Nebula is a classic, but do you know where to look? Check out the top of the tallest pillar and you’ll see little fingers sticking out of the column. These finger-looking protrusions are called evaporating gaseous globules, and this Hubble image, taken in 1995, provided the first photographic evidence for their existence. Astronomers suspect this is where stars are born.

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This is the famous Hubble Ultra-deep Field, released in June of 2014. It is one of the most detailed deep-space images ever taken, showing 10,000 galaxies.

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This spectacular snapshot in time shows two galaxies in the process of merging together. Studying how galaxies form, merge, and evolve is imperative to understanding how our home galaxy, the Milky Way, formed and will continue to change with time.

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This is a close-up image of the Carina Nebula, and that free-floating EGG is known as the “caterpillar.” You can see that the edges of the caterpillar are illuminated, indicating that it’s cooking up some stars inside.

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What you’re seeing at the center of this Hubble image is a very important type of luminous star called a Cepheid variable. Before Hubble, astronomers had only a vague idea of the age of the universe. But by using the patterns by which these stars brighten and dim over short periods of time, astronomers obtained extremely accurate distances to these objects, which helped them pin down the 14-billion-year age of the universe.

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We can’t see dark matter, but we know it’s there thanks to Hubble. The is a real Hubble image of a galaxy cluster with false coloring superimposed on top. The false blue indicates where most of the cluster’s mass is located but also where few galaxies lie. This suggests that there is a large clump of dark matter at the center of the cluster.

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    Mute Dermot Ryan
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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:24 PM

    Politicians on both sides and soldiers and kids in the middle …. another fine mess from humanity !

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:39 PM

    And in the week that we are reminded how the U.N. failed in srebernecha (apologies if spelling is wrong),
    One of the causes of WW2 was the failure of the League of Nations !
    I don’t know about anyone else but I think all military hardware and men and women who wish to be soldiers should first serve in a world army organised by the U.N. . Maybe if soldiers from differently countries got to know each other there would be no enemies !
    I have been pushing neutrality for our troops and am not impressed with their stationing in Afghanistan but I may be forgetting that it is probably at the individual level building peace… except of course for the inhabitants of Afghanistan.
    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FStanding_army&ei=F_7LU-HwK8W47Aa0moHgCg&usg=AFQjCNGV7gmKBljyzGTZ1IWsESS1YAPuew
    the above link is a wiki page on the history of armies . Man has been on the planet for, they say, 100,000 years ..we have lived without standing armies for nigh on 95% of that time…. there is a lesson in there for all of us somewhere !

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:19 PM

    Israel’s fault and nobody else’s.. If it was happening anywhere else on the planet the US woukd be threatening airstrikes by now..

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:33 PM

    Anyone here know what the words for ‘HUMANITARIAN CEASEFIRE’ are in Arabic? Maybe one of the Irish dhimmi can translate and transmit to Hamas.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:33 PM

    It’s hardly Israel’s fault that Hamas can’t restrain themselves for firing rockets for two hours.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:53 PM

    The only solution I can imagine is that the citizens of both countries come out and form a human shield of both cultures …will that happen ?
    War exists because “men of peace” are by and large people who are either too far removed from the political machinations or too busy worrying if the next bomb will fall on their kid’s heads.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:06 PM

    Dermot, I normally red thumb your comments but you’re making a lot of sense tonight.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:15 PM

    Fog, that didn’t stop the IDF resuming bombing despite ambulances being inside gaza

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:27 PM

    How many Jewish kids killed by them its like fighting a pen knife vs a gun. You think after holocaust Jews would understand doing this to the Palestinian people is wrong

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:29 PM

    I’m not anti Jewish just anti pointless slaughter

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:31 PM

    ‘How many Jewish kids killed by them its like fighting a pen knife vs a gun.’ So you’d imagine Hamas would do the rational thing and accept the ceasefire wouldn’t you?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:33 PM

    While the world looks to blame Russia for shooting down of a passenger plane, America backed isreal kills people at will in Gaza. What a world we live in, anyone else get the feeling that plane was just shot down to distract us

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    Mute Mark Kelly
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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:35 PM

    Anybody who wilfully joins an army is signing themselves up for possible death. I have no sympathy for such people. Fundamentally, it’s these bozos who enable wars. Countries that conscript people should be targeted. Doesn’t make business sense though.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:38 PM

    Thanks Mark … I am sure I will get over whatever is wrong and normal service will resume ; cheers dude !

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:45 PM

    Mark ; it only makes business sense to those who profit from war ….. It makes no sense to me who is paying more for petrol because there is “conflict” in the middle east.
    the figures put forward for America’s cost of Iraq vary but I imagine if America had kept those “trillions” on their space programme or on medical research and found the cure for cancer for example …. I’d say they could make a fortune out of that cure , as an example, and buy all the oil in Iraq and if Saddam didn’t play ball they just leaflet the Iraqis and let them know that Saddam won’t buy the cure for cancer from the friendly caring americans. Saddam would fall and this “American dream” of democracy and equality might actually become a reality if that is what’s best for everyone !
    Or to put it very simply every american bullet kills a potential customer !

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:50 PM

    Oh come on Fognostical and Scipio! Everyone here knows that I am usually an Israeli supporter. But this is disgusting me. I recognise Israel’s right to exist and defend themselves. But what is happening now is pure slaughter. It’s disgusting and barbaric. Yes, I know Hamas are pure evil. But the majority of the people (women and children especially) being killed have nothing to do with this.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:59 PM

    Mark, spot on, I don’t think there is a better way to put it. Conscription should be banned in human rights charters though, we can not consider ourselves free if our freedom can be taken at any moment in the interests of others, that’s feudalism.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:12 PM

    @ cosmos creamer …. actually it is going on for the last 3 years just 100 miles up the road from Gaza 175, 000 dead and 27 people were blown to pieces in Baghdad yesterday inside 10 min, but hay, no one gives a flying f**k funny! no real mention, because Israel didn’t do it!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:21 PM

    The greatest genocide in history happened to jews, every nation around Israel wants to obliterate them….. The dumb here is incredible….. All you intellects really think you are intelligent…. Really pathetic.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:27 PM

    @Taxi Bill
    Who planted the car bomb in Baghdad? Would you like to defend them? Similar to Assad/Sisi/Chad/CAR I don’t think you would find anyone who would spend their entire day, as many on here do, justifying the horrific actions of morally bankrupt groups and nations. Why? Maybe because Israel isn’t involved..

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:40 PM

    @ Graham: “The greatest genocide in history happened to jews,”

    No, the greatest genocide in history happened to the Native Americans. The greatest ACT of genocide in history (and greatest crime) was the Holocaust, which happened to jews. It is not disrespectful to the victims of the Holocaust to acknowledge what happened to the Native Americans.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:50 PM

    Dermot the cure for most cancer has been found but it does not suit the big pharmaceutical companies as they will lose billions as all their drugs will become obsolete watch this doc

    Watch “Dr. Burzynski: Part I – Cancer Is Serious Busines…” on YouTube
    Dr. Burzynski: Part I – Cancer Is Serious Busines…: http://youtu.be/iqJ_709pL5Y

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:55 PM

    Any human that pulls a trigger that results in the needless death of any child is wrong…absolutely wrong, and there is no exception or good reason. There is no right in this situation… Both sides are categorically wrong. But the thoughts of an innocent child, probably not even old enough to learn about their heritage, losing their life is heartbreaking, and I don’t care what side of the divide they live on, stop this madness

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:56 PM

    Fognistical & Ron. Well said. What is the matter with Irish people when it is written in black&white that Hamas broke the ceasefire and both your accurate comments in relation to that have been majorly disagreed with. Heads in the sand with blinkers on. It’s bizarre……

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:56 PM

    If my son was laid out on a slab with half his face blown away I’d head for the nearest rocket launcher… Do people really think that Palestinian people were born with rocket in their hands? If I kick our family dog long enough I know he’ll bit the leg off me… Of all the people on the planet I thought the Jews would of known what it was like to be wiped out.. They can not use the Holocaust as an excuse anymore..

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:06 PM

    Don’t think @Graham Kavanagh knows how long or why Israel has existed.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:09 PM

    They don’t want to wipe out a nation. They are destroying the tunnels which are used to attack them. They are safeguarding their country from escalating terrorist attacks. Make no mistake if the power was reversed there wouldn’t be one Jew in Israel.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:11 PM

    Israelis have become as bad as their former oppressors, I agree with that.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:14 PM

    @ Marcus O Connor, I have no idea who planted bombs or any of the other HUNDRED in the last few years, resulting in thousands of deaths in busy markets where people are just doing a bit of shopping.

    My point as I have made many times here is the utter hypocrisy of so many on these threads, THE ONLY DEATHS THEY EVEN THINK ABOUT ARE PEOPLE KILLED BY ISRAEL OR THE US. None of the probably few million warrants a protest ,let alone a march in London, Dublin or Ennis, which would lead any sane person to say, they dont give a F**k about the casualties they just care about who the perpetrator is,

    This same hypocrisy is not a new thing and has gone on at least as far back as 1967 (probably farther) when the arab countries did their best to DESTROY ( and make no mistake they would have destroyed the country completely and butchered the Jews in their tens of thousands) Israel.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:20 PM

    @ Gillian Foale… That is their stated aim ( as they teach their little kids on TV “KILL ALL THE JEWS” look it up! . followed fairly quickly by “getting rid of all “infidels” (Christians Druse etc) from the middle east!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:20 PM

    Just heard that an Israeli soldier has been captured by Hamas. Expect to see his name and photo carpetbombing the world media for the next 24 hours. There shall be no such coverage for the 2 year old blown to pieces in Beit Lahia earlier today.

    The toddlers name was Nagham Mahmoud al-Zouaydi. At least their name will appear on one western news site thanks to this post.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:26 PM

    thanks Richard ; cancer is being looked into as well by an irish filmmaker Nicky Larkin ; it concentrates on a man who changes diet to reduce acidity I think working off memory …

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:26 PM

    Red thumbs for a cure for cancer I really do have a fan club

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:39 PM

    Problem with all these conspiracy theories is that they never take into consideration the vast numbers of people who would have to keep quiet. What about the guy who could be the the most famous/richest person in the world? Amazing how intelligent people get involved with this nonsense.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:49 PM

    No taxi it was done by another US backed terrorist group. Paid and armed by the US. Same as Israel. The war is Syria is paid for and armed by the US. The war in Ukraine was paid for by the US. Anything else you wanna say Taxi? Now go and crawl.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:59 PM

    R maybe u will come out from your ridiculous trolling avator

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:01 PM

    Bull Gillian. You talk as if this has gone on for a few weeks. Its been going on for decades. The exact same cycle.
    Cop on, there is a lot more to this than finding a single point with which to justify thuggish actions.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:04 PM

    No reply from these tin foil heads, the usual. Ignore anything that’s logical. Wahey

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:04 PM

    Everyone!!! Have we all lost sight of the fact that innocent children are being killed… The madness has to stop… For no other reason except nobody can condone the killing of children… Both sides are messed up… And completely wrong….instead of arguing the rights and wrongs… Could we make an effort to stop children being killed..

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:14 PM

    Where do you get the impression that I think this has been going on for a few weeks? Where do you get the impression I justified thuggish behaviour? This has been going on since the building if the pyramids. I made my comments knowing the full history, on both sides.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:30 PM

    @Taxi Bill

    I’m sorry that you feel it is hypocrisy but who exactly are you referring to as “they”? As in the ones who don’t care about other deaths. I have seen millions of people turn out against austerity and in favour of civil rights, yet they are not as serious issues as what was happening in Darfur or the Congo, do you mean to say that people should not be allowed to protest what they want? That one could not give out about pylons going through the Midlands if they weren’t also worried about the provision of electricity in Calcutta.

    You make a very curious point and a rather ridiculous correlation. That because I am opposed to the horrific actions of Israel and Hamas and want to end the slaughter by all in Gaza that I must not care about anything else whatsoever in the world, as if I cared even one iota for 400 people I should spread all my attention over 7 billion people and if I don’t I’m a hypocrite.

    Just for fun I will accuse you of the same thing. Why do YOU care so much about the situation in Gaza? Why aren’t YOU doing more for the Muslims in Burma or to end the stratospheric inequality in Equatorial Guinea? Why would anything anybody says about Israel matter to you considering it is such a relatively insignificant portion of the world’s population?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:39 PM

    @ Gillian

    “They are destroying the tunnels which are used to attack them.”

    Have you actually seen the pictures of Israeli tanks launching thousands of shells indiscriminately into densely populated areas? They are on every news site and probably seem innocuous enough, but as those shells have a wide variation in where they land (they’re not rockets) this means that the reality is that they are quite literally hurling thousands and thousands of projectiles into an area which they know full well will result in overwhelmingly civilian casualties.

    It of course seems logical that they want to destroy Hamas’ tunnels, they can sell that idea to anyone but in buying that do not believe that they are justified in the wanton slaughter of women and children.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:41 PM

    Taxi Bill, nail on head. They only care when the perpetrators look a bit pale and/or are American allies.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:44 PM

    Mark Kelly, I know very well the plight of the Jewish people and eternal struggle for a settled homeland, despite your attempts at being smart. I also know both sides are wrong, and also the fact that whether we like it or not, Israel stands in the way of extreme Islamic ‘spiritual murderers’ being at Europes doorstep. Do you think they would stop at Israel? Hamas have an agenda, extinction of the Jewish race. Jews have an agenda too, right to survive and to live peacefully. It was not jews that launch mortars mindlessly into civilian areas. Also, what started this latest round of violence was the kidnap and butchering of a teen Jew. But the response has been over the top.
    @ werejammin, granted, but I do not think they expected that to unfold the way it did, but disgusting nontheless.
    Many here think they are clinging to a cause, but look so fvckng stupid.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:45 PM

    Mark if we look at the conflict in the North then keeping quiet a lot of people worked very well in light of the evidence that is coming to light now.
    the role of mass manipulation of the masses is something that has being going on since man decided that a king or leader was a good idea…the hieroglyphs in Egypt etc. to monarch’s heads on coin.
    confusion is often enough to prevent corrective action . Another thing about humanity is that it is only truly tested when it comes into their own backyard…… the power brokers of the world know this.
    I could suggest that Hamas has been infiltrated by Mossad and point out that it suited the superpower in the region to agree to the ceasefire and thus extend the “right to defend”. I could draw parallels with the Smithwick tribunal in Ireland relying totally on MI5 information for the narrative and so forth…
    Another thing you have to remember is that if the overall plan is kept secret by the few then people can be working away on a “death ray ” thinking they are in fact building a motor for a new wheelchair – as an outlandish example.
    Every super power has Secret Files and top secret files so how many really know what conspiracy or what hidden agenda is being adhered to.
    The only thing I would say is that politicians are very adept at talking in circles of smoke and for many of their loyal supporters that’s enough because they are too busy getting on with the mundanity of life and following traditional patterns; going to church , going to work etc.
    I have thought about conspiracy theory for a long time and the only conclusion I can come to is that Evil holds very powerful reins in the world today ; it is the only conclusion I can come to!
    What that means I do not know and I could be wrong but conspiracy theory keeps getting proven correct..

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    Jul 21st 2014, 12:05 AM

    Marcus nothing justifies the killing of innocent civilians. Be it men, women or children. Likewise nor does using women & children as human shield or barring women from shelter. But the fact that Israel have set out to destroy those tunnels is just that. Fact. They didn’t just wake up one morning and decide to knock lumps out of Gaza. Sitting at a table hasn’t worked for decades. Half of the time Palestine wouldn’t even come to the table. They pulled out of Gaza 9 years ago. Yet, 450 rockets have been fired at them this year. This is boiling point for Israel and they mean business. What would you want your government to do if terrorist rockets where being randomly launched in your direction? It’s horrific to see the images and footage from Gaza, all I can say is the best we can hope for now is an intervention that brings about some kind to resolution between these two.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 1:50 AM

    Murdering innocent women and children is despicable. If it was your children you would have a very different view!

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    Jul 21st 2014, 1:54 AM

    You are trying to justify murder. Sick!

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    Jul 21st 2014, 1:56 AM

    A very different view? As opposed to what? Where have I suggested otherwise, exactly?

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    Jul 21st 2014, 2:02 AM

    What are you on about Joe? Everything in my comments refers to actual events. The facts of the matter. The reality of it. Sorry if that offends you!

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    Jul 21st 2014, 2:11 AM

    The genocide of the jews in europe was nowhere near the worst atrocities in the last century, it just happens to be the only o.e we are reminded constantly of. What about the 20,000,000 chinese butchered by the japanese? Or the 27,000,000 russians butchered by the germans? It beggars belief why we must appease the israelis because they control the media….its time the world woke up to this disgrace that we have to accept what the z ionists do to further their agenda with impunity but ignore facts from our past. The israeli government have learned well from the nazis on how to carry out genocide while deflecting blame and we as citizens of the world allow them to keep murdering and butchering innocents and then cry about the holocaust when some people criticize them. Shame on them and shame on us

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    Jul 21st 2014, 2:20 AM

    Gillian, the pulled out of where? Take a look:

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/mapstellstory/jews_stealing_palestine.png

    Israel are an occupying force, as such, they are the terrorists.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 2:30 AM

    20 mil chinese butchered, 27 million russians butchered, OR left to die by own people or forced to face German tanks by ‘superiors’, both not systemic elimination of an entire race as Hitler tried. Again, I said none of this is right, but there are two sides to this. Palestinians are suffering at the hands of Hamas, who are mainly Lebanese terrorists, not Palestinians.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 2:51 AM

    I’m familiar with those maps Michael but I fail to see how they relate to anything I’ve said regarding the build up to recent events since ’05 at least. Hamas need to stop launching on Israel. They aren’t equipped to fight them. That is both my opinion and the as I’ve said already, the reality of it.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 5:36 AM

    So by your rationale the chinese and russian deaths are not as important as the jewish deaths because you feel they were “left ” to die by their own people? You think that to kill 20,000,000 people over 5 years was not systemic ? Like it or not the way we are fed the history of world war 2 to believe that the holocaust was the only war crime is bulls@#t. The 6,000,000 jews slaughtered was terrible but in perspective it was still only a fraction of the civillian casualties. They are not a greater loss than those of china or russia or any other victims for that matter. A jewish life is worth no more or less in my eyes, so the holocaust should not be allowed to be used as an excuse for the ethnic cleansing of another people

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    Jul 21st 2014, 8:17 AM

    IDF chief of staff + Netanyahu should be charged with war crimes because of what they are doing to poor little children.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 12:20 PM

    What are u on about mark in the grand scheme of this article and the posts that followed? Israel does enforce conscription to their army.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 12:43 PM

    Israeli murdering skum

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:27 PM

    You know what, fcuk the politics. 100 people that woke up this morning won’t be going to sleep tonight cos of this bs, 100 lives snuffed out needlessly. All we have is life, without it nothing else matters. Can we not stop killing each other over things that we could just talk about? Can we not just realise than an enemy life is still a life, and that whatever may be pissing us off at any given moment is never worth someone else’s life? Civilised societies my hole, we’re just hairless apes with advanced weaponry.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:31 PM

    This is a great article looking at peace. Worth the quick read.

    http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5592220?utm_hp_ref=uk

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:41 PM

    The world has been at war since time began. Human beings have superior intelligence to other beings but we’re pretty much the same in every other way. World peace has never and will never happen.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:49 PM

    It has to be Mark or we will all stop “happening” !
    “I don’t know what weapons will be used for World war 3 but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones !” ……….Albert Einstein.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:51 PM

    Very well said…you are absolutely right.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:54 PM

    Silent Majority…my comment was supporting your view.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:55 PM

    I don’t disagree with you btw, Silent Majority. One of the few people here I normally agree with.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:59 PM

    I know you weren’t mark, and your reply was correct. Unfortunately it just vindicated the last sentence of my initial post. It’s still a sad conclusion to have to come to all the same.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:02 PM

    Eh no it’s not

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    Jul 21st 2014, 12:01 AM

    Jenni, have a look at what sky news won’t show http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=06d_1405859690 I think you of all people here need to have a look.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 8:57 AM

    If you steal my land, bomb my homes, kill my children, don’t expect my hand of friendship.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:27 PM

    What a sick headline and it shows how much western media narrates the murder of kids by Israel in their favor. To the casual observer that headline suggests Hamas are the cause of Israel’s mass murder……” Be careful or the media will have u hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are the oppressors ” – Malcolm X. …..Shame on the Journal for copying and pasting this tripe.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:34 PM

    Serious question: Did you read the article, Derek? Your comment suggests that you jumped straight from the headline to the comments section. If you’re still unhappy after reading it, you can get me at christine@thejournal.ie. Cheers.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:37 PM

    Yeah I did, but most people don’t read the full article and are influenced by the headline and u people only know that too well.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:40 PM

    I’d give readers a bit more credit than that, and assume that most people do read most of the article.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:42 PM

    Its a direct quote from bibi – I think intention of using it as the headline is for the reader to question the credibility of the statement, not to get behind Israel.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:42 PM

    To be fair derek I read it with the commas. They suggested to me that the quote was from a brainwashed genocidal Israeli politician.
    I think the journal has sometimes been lazy but it insults the intelligence of people who do actually read to say that a headline like this is irresponsible.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:46 PM

    I read the full article and Derek makes a fair point. I have never seen a quote from Hamas upfront…

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:50 PM

    Shame on the Journal!! There are bodies strewn in the streets as a result of the massacre today and the Israeli PM has the nerve to say he cares about civilians?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:50 PM

    Hamas might aswell bury these kids themselves. They know exactly what the consequences of firing rockets into Israeli are. Like taking on an assault rifle with a pencil. And before anybody says otherwise, I don’t support either side.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:50 PM

    It’s a deliberately misleading headline… It’s what the western media are good at when it comes to Gaza, nothing to do with the journalists, it’s a systematic problem and it comes down to big money corrupting the media because of vested interests….And innocent kids die because of it.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:01 PM

    If you really care about Palestinians then stop supporting Hamas and the other Islamofascists who are grinding them down and stealing their money not to mention their lives.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:28 PM

    Totally agree. Journal shame on you.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:30 PM

    I agree that this is a seriously biased headline. Why didn’t you ask Hamas for a quote about how they think Israel wants to kill them?

    Oh, I know, it’s because Israel have silenced and imprisoned the whole of Gaza.

    Why aren’t we seeing journalists in Gaza? Oh right, because Israel doesn’t allow them in.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:32 PM

    If you can’t get similar access to quotes from Hamas and the Palestinians then you should not allow the Israelis free reign to control the message.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:36 PM

    Are you sure about that Mark?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:56 PM

    The problem is that you should have been more responsible with the wording of the headline Christine. Very misleading. You cant excuse it by saying ‘read the article’.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:08 PM

    I’m not trying to excuse it, Brian. The article makes it very clear the context in which the quote was said. Given that there are a few people unhappy with it, I’ll change it though.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:03 PM

    Thanks Christine.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:00 PM

    I don’t think you should have felt pressurised to change the headline Christine. The Journal’s coverage on Gaza has overall been very balanced, and this article is certainly not biased towards Israel.

    After this complaint are we now to believe that any headline which quotes Putin has a pro-Russian bias, any headline which quotes Obama has a pro-US bias, any headline which quotes Enda has a pro-FG bias etc. etc. etc.??

    This really is an insult to the intelligence of the Journal’s readership.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:31 PM

    Featherstone – such a generic question. What?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:45 PM

    But Israel and the IDF do not target civillians!?!?!?!?!?!?! How are hundreds of children and other civillians being murdered??? This is baffling …trying to figure that one out !?!?!?!?!?!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:51 PM

    @ Nigel
    Hamas put weapons in civilian areas.

    Hamas launch rockets from these civilian areas

    IDF advise civilians to leave these areas

    Hamas tell them to stay

    IDF destroys rockets so as to protect their citizens from rockets

    Innocent civilians die as they trust Hamas

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:17 PM

    jenny you are being economic with the truth…
    israels intention is to kill hamas militants…before israel put a soldier on the ground they factored in to the equation they would kill innocent civilians…also is their any truth in this headline?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israel-using-flechette-shells-in-gaza

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:33 PM

    Israel doesnt target civilians because they are the “good guys” in Americas and Europes view……..

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:34 PM

    Your a liar Jenni and you continually come here spouting the Israeli propaganda. You are an apologist for the slaughter of the innocents. You’re hands drips with the blood of children and you come in here spouting your one sided peace shite. I’m sure the Israelis and US look after you well..

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:35 PM

    @jenni. Even if Hamas is doing the things you say it does not absolve israel of its obligations under international and humanitarian law. You are defending war criminals.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:44 PM

    @ Sean

    You keep raising the same point and I keep saying that although
    I disagree with war, I would assume that “factoring civilian death into the equation” is quite a normal thing to do in war.

    We may not like it but it would be worse if they didn’t factor it in as my guess would be that the death toll would be a hell of a lot higher.

    If the IDF really wanted to kill all Palestinians, they’d have done it by now

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:46 PM

    @ Gerry I’m a liar? Disprove me then

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:46 PM

    @ wj I never said it absolves them

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:53 PM

    i think the rate the IDF are going its a possibility…do you agree with the IDF using flehette shells as reported in todays guardian

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:11 PM

    Stunning how much people put 2 and 2 together and assume they have all parts if the equation.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:16 PM

    @ Sean no I don’t

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:20 PM

    @jenni, I am getting sick of these lies repeated ad nauseam by you to justify the Israeli campaign of terror. Tell me, where are these people supposed to go to??? THERE ARE NO SAFE AREAS IN GAZA!!! Israel disgrace themselves once again in the eyes of the world. As a parent of two children, I would never EVER condone a side I supported carrying out these murderous acts. Yet you do repeatedly… Tell me, who is the one that supports terrorism here?! Il give you a clue, it’s not me!!

    PS tank shells are not laser guided. Only a ragime hell bent on collective punishment would use them in such circumstances. Was it due to the fact the 13 invaders were killed last night that made Israel obliterate women and children?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:21 PM

    @ Tony – I assume you’re talking about me? I actually know a huge amount about this conflict and unlike some I read books and proper articles about it rather than just accepting the perceived truth.

    My comment was to Nigel who has also been posting on this topic for 10 days and made a comment with the attempt of being sensational. It was a silly comment that deserved a silly reply

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:25 PM

    Jenny, care to recommend any books?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:26 PM

    @Jenni “IDF advise civilians to leave these areas” LOL. How many kids have to be blown up deliberately by your IDF buddies before stop supporting what they’re doing?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:32 PM

    Jenni – According to others, Hamas have concrete bunkers to protect themselves… but not their weapons?

    You have consistently maintained that Hamas should not put weapons in civilian areas. Please answer the question, WHERE in your opinion should Hamas be storing their weapons?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:37 PM

    Jenni you are either naive or dump. Where else would you suggest they store there weapons. Maybe the should hide them in the sea. Do you know that Gaza is populated by 1.8 million people. Where in Gaza do you think that Hamas should try to defend there people from, maybe the sea, forgot Israelis control that to. . I honestly don’t believe you that you support the war crimes commuted upon the Pakistan people. But your comments come accross as if you are defending the murder of nation. Can you defend this, can you blame these people for there own deathhttp://youtu.be/ztoyLM40_mY

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:39 PM

    @ Chris I constantly say that:

    I support peace.

    I do not agree with war.

    I do not agree with innocent people dying.

    I support Israel’s right to exist.

    I support a Palestinian state.

    I am sick to death of hearing the same lines and accusations from you over and over with no solutions.

    None of the anti Israel activists on here will answer my question because rather than be constructive, it’s more sensational for you to post things like “you support child murder”, “Israel is ethnic cleansing”, etc. So Chris … Please tell me. If you were in a position of power, what would you do ????

    You ask me where should the people of Gaza go?

    They should march on the Egyptian border to demand that the Arab league step in and stop Hamas. They should demand refugee status in Jordan to allow the UN to come in and demilitarise Hamas. They should then pressurise the PA to enter peace talks to once again start a 2 state solution. They should be given billions of aid money to build their economy and infrastructure up so that they can prosper in peace.

    Please have the manners to answer my question.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:40 PM

    @Jenni

    “If the IDF really wanted to kill all Palestinians, they’d have done it by now”

    Wow, just wow.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:43 PM

    Kris you wouldn’t read them so what’s the point?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:44 PM

    @ Allen we’ve had this conversation before. If they are “my ” IDF buddies then you may want to have a chat with “your Hamas buddies “

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:46 PM

    @ RH if a legitimate party was put in place if Hamas (ie a party who actually want a peaceful 2 state solution) there would be no need for weapons at all

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:50 PM

    Sorry bpa until you answer my question I’m not answering yours. I don’t speak Arabic so your video is kind if useless. It shows dead bodies. Will I send you pictures of dead Israelis from the suicude bombings back in the early 2000′s. Will that help solve the conflict ?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:50 PM

    @ Allen … Taking my words out if context. Wow just wow

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:04 PM

    @jenny, name your books, I will name you mine, no problem. What are you afraid of??

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:25 PM

    @jenni You want the Palestinians to leave for the borders and demand refugee status in other Arab country’s and while they are gone the Israelis can bulldoze the whole place and build nice little settlements for themselves.. Stay classy!!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:26 PM

    Without going into ancient history how did this current conflict begin?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:29 PM

    @jenny, I find it hard to believe that you support peace. I find it hard to believe you when you say that you don’t believe in war. Your comments over the last few days lead me to question that. This is just the same Hasbara line reiterated by Israeli spokespeople as they are pulverising women and children at the very same time. Nethanyahu is for peace isn’t he?? He would certainly say so..
    If I was in power I would engage peacefully with Hamas through diplomatic channels. I would not kill over 450 people in a war that neither side can win. Negotiate! How Gazans march to the Rafah crossing when the area has been declared a war zone by your beloved IDF???!!! Where many women and children were killed over the past few days by tank shells, by shells from the sea, by missiles from the air??!! And why should a people that exercised their democratic right to vote for Hamas now go to a border (a declared war zone) to call for the people that they elected to be “stopped”. Please try and think constructively and realistically. The PA have absolutely no credibility even in the West Bank at this stage, yet you think that they will enter into “peace talks” without Hamas. BS!!

    Lastly. For you to propose that an already dispossessed people go to Jordan, to be dispossessed once again just shows your true Z1onist belief and ideals. Implement UN resolution 194, they have every right to return to land that Israel won by conquest. And get the hell out of the West Bank. It is PALESTINE!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:32 PM

    @Jenni
    What so Bombing the crap out of them is a solution?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:36 PM

    @ kris no probs … The 4 found the most helpful are:
    The case for Israel – Alan Dershowitz
    From time immemorial – Joan peters
    The six day war – Michael Oren
    Gaza in crisis – Noam Chomsky
    Apart from Chomsky, there was another pro Palestine book but I can’t remember the name

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:36 PM

    @ John that’s not what i said

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:37 PM

    @ John Burke … Do u mean current as in 10 days ago, 6 months ago, 5 years ago, 10 years, 40 years, 69 years ? This isolated conflict can’t be taken out if context

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:39 PM

    @ Chris ( maybe you’ll start spelling my name correctly too?) I genuinely am
    interested in yours.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:47 PM

    Jenni (sorry! Spelt your name right this time), you should have saved your money and just bought one book. As the case for Israel and from time immemorial are the same book!! Alan Dershowitz disgraced himself as I am sure you will agree? I would highly recommend “Beyond Chutzpah” by Norman finkelstein. It explains all of this in minute detail. I would also recommend “pity the nation” by Robert Fisk. Or one to really open your eyes “the ethnic cleansing of Palestine” by Illan Pappe. There are more obv but these are ones I would specifically recommend.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:51 PM

    Jenni, Nethanyahu said this week , there will never be a Palestinian state, how can you believe his government have any intention of a two state solution when they continue to build illegal settlements and annex land where this Palestinian state is supposed to be formed. Israel has moved hundreds of thousands of its citizens onto the West Bank since the Oslo peace accords all the time creating’ facts on the ground’, breaking its commitments ignoring deadlines and constantly moving the goal posts of they demands from the Palestinians before negotiating , they must recognise Israels right to exist , when this is agreed , you must recognise Israel as a Jewish state, even though a fifth of its population are non Jewish. We cannot speak to the PA because they do not represent all of the Palestinians , when they are divided, and we will not speak to them when they unite because Hamas are terrorists. The occupation is destroying Israel , try reading Uri Avernys columns for a real peace seeking view from the Israeli side. They amount of troops they are losing this time will not be tolerated for long in Israel , that is why they left South Lebanon in 2000, Hamas will only get stronger ,their rockets can reach all parts of Israel , they have used drones for the first time and are using tunnels to enter Israel, all unheard of before now, Israel needs to make peace now from a position of strength based on the 1967 borders before even the US abandons it and it becomes a complete pariah.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:52 PM

    @ Chris Jordan,

    Exactly how would you engage with Hamas?

    I’m genuinely asking.

    It’s just that they’re have been attempts, and they haven’t worked.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:03 PM

    I’m just wondering Jenni, what do you think of Israel’s internationally-denounced occupations through settlements and annexations of the lands around Palestine?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:07 PM

    Treasa, are you referring to attempts earlier this week when Netanyahu went straight to the Egyptians to organise a truce, an Egyptian government that overthrew the democratically elected Muslim Brotherhood, of which Hamas are members, and all of this happened with no consultation or communication with Hamas themselves? What would you expect Hamas to do?! Two hostile governments agree to a truce without including one of the two parties involved in the conflict, Netanyahu merely did this to appear to be seeking peace, knowing it would fail, in reality all he and the IDF and the Israeli government and by the looks of some of the comments here, their diaspora, want is to quench their bloodlust every two years.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:08 PM

    Treasa, the reason they have not worked is simply because Hamas have not been involved in them. It is like the conservatives and Fianna Fáil negotiating the Good Friday agreement without Sinn Fein. It cannot work!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:10 PM

    @Jenni
    So those 4 boys on the beach…they got a text or email each from the IDF saying they were going to bomb (twice) that open part of that beach, did they?
    Whats the result of the big IDF ‘investigation’ actually? Disgusted that they missed them with the first shot?
    Oh …and that family with 8 killed in the one house in East Gazza by an ILLEGAL shrapnel shell…that cut a 2 foot wide hole through their external wall..in through their kitchen and then exploded into 100′s of shrapnel darts that made mince meat of 8 of them…would have thought Mossad would been able to take out a single Hamas member target in that house without much hassle if indeed there was even one in there, no!?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:11 PM

    Treasa, just to be clear, diplomatic channels exist between Israel and Hamas. If the will was there on the Israeli side, or more specifically if US pressure existed, there could be a ceasefire.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:12 PM

    @ Chris – thank you for spelling my name correctly!

    Every article I post is the likes of “Why I support Israel and Palestine” or “Paving the path to Peace”. I truly believe in negotiaion. Trust me, I am 100% against war but I’m not so naive to think that a world without conflict is realistic. I therefore try to understand as much as I can about war and realize that unfortunately civilian deaths are inevitable. My own family has been affected by suicide bombers in Israel. I know the impact of war several times over but I still want peace.

    “Nethanyahu is for peace isn’t he??”
    I personally believe that Netanyahu should step down in the name of peace as I think this would be a good step in showing that Israel are serious about re-engaging in peace talks.

    “If I was in power I would engage peacefully with Hamas through diplomatic channels.”
    I also suggested this but was shot down as being naive. Which diplomatic channels? And would you be putting down your arms immediately or waiting until you had some kind of confirmation that Hamas would engage in talks? As if you did put down your arms, you know that the rockets would keep coming and if you didn’t, the Palestinians wouldn’t trust you to begin with. Personally I think Israel should stop first …

    “I would not kill over 450 people in a war that neither side can win.”
    Neither would I

    “How Gazans march to the Rafah crossing when the area has been declared a war zone by your beloved IDF???!!!”
    Obviously there would have to be notification to the Israeli government that this is being planned. Israel do actually stop for ceasefires … I honestly believe that if they knew this was happening, they would stop firing.

    “Why should a people that exercised their democratic right to vote for Hamas now go to a border (a declared war zone) to call for the people that they elected to be “stopped”. ”
    I understand that this is a bit “put there” but if I was a Palestinian Mother, I would do ANYTHING for my kids even if it meant ousting a government that I may have voted for thinking it was the best option (but have not had the chance to revote for since 2006)… Surely no one in Gaza can think that Hamas are the best leaders to act in the name of peace?

    “The PA have absolutely no credibility even in the West Bank at this stage, yet you think that they will enter into “peace talks” without Hamas. ”
    But the PA have to be part of the talks … every interested party needs to be part of them or else they will fall down … again

    “For you to propose that an already dispossessed people go to Jordan, to be dispossessed once again just shows your true Z1onist belief and ideals.”
    Again, if I was a Palestinian Mother with the choice of living in a war zone in poverty or living in Jordan where my kids would be safe, while and only while Hams was safely demilitarized, then yes I would do it. I want peace. I believe that the Palestinians should have their own state. I think as a Palestinian Mother I would be thinking that we totally messed up the chance 5 years ago when the borders were open, the greenhouses ready for continuing a successful export business, etc. I would be disgusted with the rockets KNOWING that Israel would eventually retaliate.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:12 PM

    In this ‘War’ ..wouldnt it be obvious to factor in weapons being in polulated areas then too!?!?! Even more so given the fact that Gaza is so densely populated….never heard of the Germans or Allies storing weapons miles out in remote areas during WWII myself anyway

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:20 PM

    @ Chris,
    @ gauis,

    I am referring to them but I also mean considering the actions and attitude of Hamas.
    Considering there was a ceasefire, and Hamas kept firing away.

    How would you go through the process?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:29 PM

    I think a start would be Israel stopping construction on their illegal settlements. Almost the entire world has denounced these settlements yet Israel continues regardless and still maintain it is a good country just sticking up for its’ peoples’ rights. Palestine has asked them to stop and they will enter negotiations. Then, maybe, just maybe, a legitimate goal can be believed in.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:30 PM

    @ Chris

    Thank you. I will read “the ethnic cleansing of Palestine” by Illan Pappe. The others though … well …

    Norman Finkelstein is a Holocaust Denier … sorry but I just can’t read anything he writes because of that.

    The case for Israel and From Time Immemorial are two separate books. Dershowitz …he certainly builds a good case for Israel’s right to exist. Why is he a disgrace? Seriously I’m asking a genuine question?

    As for Fisk … many of his foreign correspondent associates allege that he is economical with the truth
    “Former colleagues of Marie Colvin and Remi Ochlik, both killed by the Syrians, have been venting their fury against Fisk on a private Facebook page. Many of their comments expand on a remark made in the Guardian by Ian Black, the paper’s Middle East editor, who was reviewing the memoirs of Hugh Pope, a distinguished Middle East correspondent, which strongly criticise Fisk’s style of reporting. According to Black, Pope was “not the first journalist to wonder with envy and irritation how Fisk ‘managed to get an amazing sounding story from a dull day’.” Black was choosing his words carefully (as am I) but read between the lines.”
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100148094/i-do-not-make-stories-up-says-an-embattled-robert-fisk/

    Any other ones please?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:32 PM

    Maybe Jenny going to Jordan might be an option. But at what point do people say “you can’t keep making us refugees.” Because since the 1940s, that is what has happened to the Palestinian people.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:33 PM

    @ Gavan I just said to Chris that “I personally believe that Netanyahu should step down in the name of peace as I think this would be a good step in showing that Israel are serious about re-engaging in peace talks.”

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:35 PM

    @ Nigel
    I have already states several times that I absolutely condemn the killing of ALL innocent people. I’m not going over old ground.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:36 PM

    @ Mary – I agree and I do not support the settlement building as it is a barrier to peace

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:42 PM

    It’s not just a barrier to peace it’s an illegal occupation. Therefore, the ball is in Israel’s court as far as I can see. However, until America stops supporting Israel, Israel will never serve that ball. THAT is the real issue. I hope that the Israeli people steering away from their government’s current position will eventually grow and overtake that current stance. The change will have to come from within its own borders.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:42 PM

    @ Mary
    I understand that being made refugees again is not exactly an ideal solution. But if it meant that they could return to a safe and newly built land, wouldn’t it be worth it? With the world’s eyes watching, the UN (not Israel) would demilitarize the area designated for Palestine and on the return of the Palestinians, the world would be watching again so that the situation that happened when Gaza was originally handed over would not happen again. At least it’s something. I’m sure its overly simplistic but at least it’s something?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:43 PM

    @ Chris Jordan unlike what we have been told Gaza is not a densely packed place outside of mainly Gaza city, there are many wide open desolate place ( Watch a rathe interesting documentary. It is NOT a pro Israel film or pro Hamas for that matter, there is NO political message at all ( The wide open area I speak of is a desert where where Gaza police (not Hamas) took old unexploded munitions to blow them up , that piece is rather funny as they throw and kick rusty big artillery shell a bit like a rugby ball (needless to say it take a few goes to blow them up) The visit to Gaza Prison (yes they have one and male and female prison officers) is interesting as the crimes (male drugs = 1 year in prison and hanging/shooting) ( female got 6 years for having a baby out of wedlock) the PO’s words not mine.

    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/life-death-gaza-strip/ ……………. its on utube as well!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:46 PM

    Yes, it would be a great ideal situation. I agree. At the moment though, I believe it’s a completely unrealistic one. And that is the reality facing those poor people. Until America drops its support or pro-Palestinian support grows from within Israel, the illegal occupations and the deaths of so many innocent people is on Israel’s head. Hamas is simply a by-product of all of that and will continue to receive support from Palestinians.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:50 PM

    @Jenni I know you and I commend you for that.
    However that doesnt answer the points I made in response to yours which indicated that you believed that the innocent dead were being informed in advance plus as the Hamas weapons were stored in a civilian areas IN A CITY and a densely populated one, that this was also another reason for so many civilian deaths – now after my rethort do you agree that most of that is hogwash!?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:51 PM

    Jesus jenni please just be straight for once 2 state nonsense is just that benjiman n r Israel don’t and won’t accept that and we’ll u know it

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:51 PM

    @Jenni – NO WAY…the Palestinians have suffered enough displacement and occupation of Their lands in the past 60 years as it is

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:53 PM

    @ HH – “so Bombing the crap out of them is a solution?”
    Where have I said that?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:55 PM

    U constantly insult the palas people it does your view no favours

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:56 PM

    To keep saying the palas people r sheep and worse is terrible try try see the inhumanity of what is happening innocent people

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:59 PM

    @ Nigel
    Ok so an IDF soldier does not go up to each person and hand them a letter. But the beach that those poor 4 boys were playing on has apparently been hit many times so why oh why would any parent let them play there? For goodness sake, I won’t let mine play in the playground in Stephens Green cos there’s so much broken glass there from the teenage drinkers! I’m so so sad about the death of these kids … of all innocent kids. Even thinking about them, I just feel sick and emotional. What a waste of an excited expectant mother, the delight of new parents, the weaning of a child onto solids, the first steps etc. It’s awful, but the Palestinians and Israelis alike need to show that they as a people want change …
    Gaza is not as densely populated as we are led to believe either…

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:03 PM

    Ah Richard … I was hoping you’d pop up.
    Remember yesterday when you were disgusted at the notion of a pro Israel group calling themselves Ireland4Israel and you asked me why I personally had not set up Ireland4Peace even though I am not one of the admins on Ireland4Israel? I then explained to you that the P in the IPSC stands for Palestine and not Peace. I then suggested that you should set up an alternative IPSC i.e. the Irish Peace Solution Campaign. I even offered to do it with you. But you disappeared. So … are you actually interested in peace Richard?

    I have never insulted Palestinian people and certainly have not called them sheep and have constantly condoned the inhumanity from both sides.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:04 PM

    Treasa, we won’t know until diplomatic channels open! There have been ceasefires before, there has been relative peace (outwidth) the breaking of ceasefires by Israel. It is up to the UN to insist on proper ceasefire proposals based on an ending of an illegal blockade imposed collectively since 2007….

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:05 PM

    Richard – “Jesus jenni please just be straight for once 2 state nonsense is just that benjiman n r Israel don’t and won’t accept that and we’ll u know it”

    Your sentence is difficult to understand but I gather you don’t believe that a 2 state solution will work? So what’s your solution then?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:10 PM

    Jenni, the fact that you assumed my comment to be directed at you speaks volumes.

    Also, being the first to say that you read more/watch more/self declare as more informed does not in fact mean that you are more informed or that anyone else commenting here is less informed or has less valid opinion than you.

    So I’ll take your opinion as your opinion, informed more or less than anyone else you care to decide to compare yourself to. However, I don’t accept your opinion as correct. IMHO and that of almost any right thinking person a heavyweight military of a frightened nation has herded a perceived enemy into a tiny corner and have been kicking the shit out of them.

    If you square that as some way moral, then I hope you never have to depend on that compass in any way that truly matters because you are lost.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:14 PM

    @jenni, as holocaust deniers go Mr Finkelstein certainly is a strange one as his family where killed in the concentration camp of auschwitz.

    http://youtu.be/6O5zgXeCynQ

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:19 PM

    @Jenni that quote summarises you perfectly, a fake advocate for peace who makes no acknowledgment of IDF war crimes

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:21 PM

    @ Tony – your response came up in my emails as “Somebody has responded directly to your comment” so there was no assumption made!

    “Also, being the first to say that you read more/watch more/self declare as more informed does not in fact mean that you are more informed or that anyone else commenting here is less informed or has less valid opinion than you.”
    I didn’t mean it to come across that way and everyone’s opinion is valid. I’m sure you can understand my frustration though as for 10 days I have been trying to debate with certain people. We get to a certain point and then they disappear. The next day, they start the same circular debate again. It’s extremely frustrating and a waste of time. I think today is the first time in 10 days that I have been in any way impolite and I apologise for that.

    “a heavyweight military of a frightened nation has herded a perceived enemy into a tiny corner and have been kicking the shit out of them.”
    I almost agree with you with the exception of the word “perceived” as the Hamas charter is black & white about the fact that they are the enemy of Israel and want it destroyed along with every jew. This is a very real threat and it is exactly what has lead to the heavyweight military in the first place.

    This is an article I really found interesting … I’m heading to bed now but would be interested in your thoughts on it in the morning?
    http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/10/31/israels-security-concerns-are-blocking-peace/

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:24 PM

    @ Jenni
    OmG I actually had a lot of respect for you and your views but where are you going with this now!?!?!
    Gaza city was being bombed..the kids went to the beach to get away from….where the hell else were supposed to go then!!?!??!?? Take a hot air baloon?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:29 PM

    @ Chris

    Ok apologies … I was not aware of that but his name is regularly linked to holocaust deniers. To quote from the Jewish Virtual Library …

    “Whereas hard-core deniers posit that the Holocaust is fiction, and that Jews are exploiting this nonevent through conspiratorial means to harm non-Jews, Finkelstein accepts that the mass murders did occur, but then joins the deniers in claims that Jews are collectively abusing this history for evil purposes.”

    I think that’s a horrible thing to say, but he does not deny it as I thought he did.

    I wil however read his book so thank you for pointing that out to me. Some may not believe it, but I am not a robot and do not condone everything Israel does just because it’s Israel. I genuinely want to continue learning from both sides.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:30 PM

    @ Allen until you actually add something to the debate … I’ll wish you a peaceful night

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:32 PM

    Justify this Jeeni Harison: http://imgur.com/dGqO71m

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:34 PM

    And they should do all these things because otherwise they’ll get blown to pieces by Israel?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:36 PM

    @ Nigel

    All I’m saying is that I wouldn’t bring my kids to a beach which had been bombed just days before as this would imply to me that the IDF thought there were weapons there. Obviously that does not mean that I am blaming the kids. Personally I’d have been knocking on the “door” of the flippin tunnels that Hamas have built to store their weapons in. (Obviously not now that there’s a ground attack on said tunnels)

    Taxi Bill however did post a non political documentary of Gaza and the land there actually is … http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/life-death-gaza-strip/ … I haven’t watched it yet so I can’t say anything about it

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:36 PM

    Jenny, you present yourself as well informed. I can only assume then that part of the IDF historic advice for those in Gaza to keep safe is to head for the beach has either escaped you or that you’ve actively chosen to ignore it?

    Can the same be assumed around the photos which are available fairly freely of the kids running from a bomb and then being bombed as they ran for safety?

    Has it also escaped you that there are many many many images of innocents with limbs missing, or even half of their HEAD missing?

    There is no moral justification for the disproportionate suffering being inflicted on the Palestinian people.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:37 PM

    @jenni whatever, keep justifying IDF war crimes

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:38 PM

    @ O
    No because I can’t see another option for peace unless someone other than Israel demilitarizes Hamas. That process must happen when innocent civilians are not there in order to minimize innocent civilian death

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:39 PM

    @ Toni
    I’m not justifying any of it. None of this has escaped me. I am merely actively seeking a solution for peace.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:39 PM

    The above was in reply to Jenni’s suggestion for the Palestinians, which sounds like a roadmap for them to surrender completely to pressure from Israel:
    ‘They should march on the Egyptian border to demand that the Arab league step in and stop Hamas. They should demand refugee status in Jordan to allow the UN to come in and demilitarise Hamas. They should then pressurise the PA to enter peace talks to once again start a 2 state solution. They should be given billions of aid money to build their economy and infrastructure up so that they can prosper in peace.’

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    Jul 21st 2014, 8:03 AM

    Jenni, just a few points on one of your other posts. Norman Finkelstein’s parents were both in concentration camps during the war, so I don’t see how he can be accused of being a holocaust denier. What angers some people about him is that he says the memory of the holocaust should not be used to excuse the actions of Israel. Joan Peters book has been proved to be filled with inaccuracies and outright lies. The case for Israel quotes heavily from this , and has been said by Dershowitz himself to be written in the same vein as defence arguments in a murder trial and not has pure fact. I have never seen a single instance were Robert Fisk was proven to be economical with the truth, though I have heard the claim his mother was the daughter of Eichmann.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:34 PM

    Boycott Israel.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:57 PM

    I do, in as much as | can (when I identify products I may be purchasing as Israeli). Not enough people do this though.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:26 PM

    No excuse for such atrocities.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:59 PM

    Why can’t the Palestinians rise up against Hamas?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:06 PM

    And what would that achieve? Civil war, further instability and more bloodshed? Hamas are undoubtedly a dangerous organisation but they aren’t the ones killing hundreds of civilians everyday.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:26 PM

    Shame on you. Your a fool. Even worse than a fool, your a contemptible apologist for the murder of innocents. They the Palestinians elected Hamas is free and fair election to represent them. And now even children are queuing to join Hamas . They have seen their families blow apart by American bombs and all that keeps them alive now is the thought of revenge against the Americans and Israelis . Who can blame them, if I was there I would fight to defend my people. Israel never wanted peace , they want the land cleared of the dirty subhuman Arabs. Sure they are only animals who cares

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:33 PM

    @ bpa so if you were in a position of power, what would you do to stop the war?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:36 PM

    Egyptians elected the Muslim Brotherhood in free elections but were fortunate enough to get rid of them. Hamas is part of the same head-hacking outfit as the Brotherhood and ISIS.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:29 PM

    Keep justifying this and may you never have a peaceful nights sleep again.

    The following was compiled from The Washington Post and Al-Jazeera America. If there are any corrections, please let me know. You will notice that some of the children on the list have no age listed-this is because they may not have been able to determine their age based on their injuries. As more information becomes available I will update the list.
    Here is the list of the children that have died in during the past week from the air, land, and sea invasion of Gaza along with their age and the town they lived in. If there are any corrections-please let me know. –
    SMZL
    “Don’t you worry don’t you worry child, see heavens got a plan for you… “
    -Swedish House Mafia
    May You Now Rest In Peace

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    1. Omar hamouda, 7, killed in Beit Lahia
    2. Nagham Mahmoud al-Zouaydi, 2, killed in Beit Lahia
    3. Ahmed Hamouda 10, killed in Beit Lahia
    4. Mohamed Ziad al-Rahl 6, killed in Beit Lahia
    5. Ibrahim Jamal Kamal Nasr, 13, in Khan Younis
    6. Mussa Abderrahman Abu Jarad, 6 Months, location unknown
    7. Ahlam Mussa Abu Jarad, 4, location unknown
    8. Emad Hamed Elwan, 7, killed in Gaza
    9. Qassem Hamed Elwan, 4, killed in Gaza
    10. Sara Mohammed Al Bustan, 13, killed in Gaza
    11. Rizk Ahmed Al Hayek, 2, killed in Gaza
    12. Mohammed Ismail Abu Muslim Abraj, 13, location unkown
    13. Fares Jumaa al-Mahmoum, 5 Months, killed in Rafah
    14. Mohamed Salem Ntaiz, 4, killed in Gaza
    15. Rahaf Khalil Al Jabbour, 4, killed in Khan Younis.
    16. Ismaeil Youssef El Kafarneh, age unknown, killed in Beit Hanoun.
    17. Fullah Tarek Shehebar, age unknown, location unknown.
    18. Jehad Essam Shehebar, age unknown, location unknown.
    19. Wassim Essam Shehebar, age unknown, location unknown.
    20. Yasmin Al Astal, 4, killed in Khan Younis.
    21. Osama Mahmoud Al Astal, 6, killed in Khan Younis.
    22. Hamza Raed Thari, 6, killed Jabalia
    23. Ahed Bakr, 10, killed in Gaza beach
    24. Zakaria Bakr, 10, killed in Gaza beach
    25. Mohammed Bakr, 11, killed in Gaza beach

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:31 PM

    26. Ismail Bakr, 9, killed in Gaza beach
    27. Ibrahim Ramadan, 10, killed in Khan Younis.
    28. Sara Omar Sheikh al-Eid, 4, killed in Rafah.
    29. Muayed al-Aaraj, 3, killed in Khan Younis.
    30. Manar Majed al-Batesh, 13, killed in Gaza.
    31. AmAnas Alaa al-Batesh, 10, killed in Gaza.
    32. Qusai Alaa al-Batesh, unknown age, killed in Gaza.
    33. Qusai Issam al-Batesh, 12, killed in Gaza.
    34. Shahd al-Qreinawi, 7, killed in Al-Breij.
    35. Nour Marwan al-Najdi, 10, killed in Rafah.
    36. Bassam Abdel Rahman Khattab, 6, killed in Deir al-Balah.
    37. Yasmin Mohammed al-Mutwak, 4, killed in Beit Hanoun.
    38. Abdallah Ramadan Abu Ghazal, 5, killed in Beit Hanoun.
    39. Fatima al-Hajj, 12, killed in Khan Younis.
    40. Mariam Atiah Mohammed al-Arja, 11, killed in Beit Hanoun
    41. Salah Awad al-Nawasra, 6, killed in al-Maghazi.
    42. Mahmoud Nahed al-Nawasra, 5, arrived at the hospital in shreds, location unknown
    43. Mohammed Khalaf al-Nawasra, 4, killed in al-Maghazi.
    44. Nidal Khalaf al-Nawasra, 5, killed in al-Maghazi.
    45. Unborn baby Al-Maghazi (mother of Mohammad and Nidal, 4 months pregnant-father was killed too), killed in al-Maghazi
    46. Mohammed Arif, 13, killed in Gaza.
    47. Mohammed Malake, 1½, killed in Gaza.
    48. Siraj Ayad Abdelal, 8, killed in Khan Younis.
    49. Basil Salem Kawareh, 10, killed in Khan Younis.
    50. Hussein Yousef Kawareh, 13, killed in Khan Younis.
    51. Mohammad Ibrahim Masri, 14, Beit Hanoun

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:31 PM

    52. Sahar Hamdan’s son, unknown age, was killed in the same bombing.
    53. Amir Areef, 13, Sha’af.
    54. Dunia Mehdi Hamad, 16, Sha’af
    55. Ahmad Na’el Mehdi, 16, Sheikh Radwan
    56. Bassim Salim Kawareh, 10, Sheikh Radwan
    57. Mohammed Ayman Ashour, 15, Sheikh Radwan
    58. Rouya Mahmoud al-Zouaydi 6, Beit Lahia
    59. Amjad Salem Shaeth, 15, in Moraj
    60. Ahmed Moussa Habib, 16, killed in Gaza.
    61. Raneem Judeh Abdel Ghafour, 1½, killed in Khan Younis.
    62. Kamal Atef Yousuf Abu Taha, 16, killed in Khan Youni
    63. Ahmed Ismail Abu Muslim Abraj, 14, location unknown
    64. Haniyeh Abderrhman Abu Jarad, 2, location unknown
    65. Fulla Tariq Shuhaibar, 8, Gaza City.
    66. Waseem Rida Salhiyya, 15, Khan Younis.
    67. Ibrahim Jamal Kamal Nassr, 13, Khan Younis
    68. Wasim Issam Shuhaibar, 9, Gaza City
    69. Jihad Issam Shuhaibar, 10, Gaza City
    70. Rahaf Khalil al-Jbour, 4, Khan Younis
    71. Yassin al-Humaidi, 4, Gaza City
    72. Mohammad Shadi Ntheir, 15, Gaza City.
    73. Mohammad Salem Ntheir, 4, Gaza City.
    74. Ibrahim Ramadan Abu Doqqa, 10, Khan Younis
    75. Usama Mahmoud Al-Astal, 6, Khan Younis.
    76. Yasmin al-Astal, 4, Khan Younis.
    77. Hamza Raed Thary, 6, Jabalia.
    78. Yasser Eid al-Mahmoum, 18, Rafah
    79. Khalil Sh’aafy, Juhr Ed-Deek , 7, Gaza

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:31 PM

    80. Sara Omar Sheikh al-Eid, 4, Rafah.
    81. Kamal Atef Yousef Abu Taha, 16, Khan Younis.
    82. Qassem Jaber Odah, 16, Khan Younis.
    83. Nariman Jouda Abdul-Ghafour,18 months, Khan Younis.
    84. Mohammad Ayman ‘Ashour, 15, Khan Younis.
    85. Hussein Yousef Kaware’, 13, Khan Younis.
    86. Bassem Salem Kaware’, 10, Khan Younis.
    87. Ahmed Mousa Habib, 16, Gaza.
    88. Ahmad Nael Mahdi, 16, Gaza.
    89. Donia Mahdi Hamad, 16, Beit Hanoun.
    90. Siraj Eyad Abdul-‘Aal, 8, Khan Younis.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:35 PM

    Just give them a few more hours and we will have more children to add to the murdered list.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:56 PM

    Children killed by Hamas and its refusal to hold to a ceasefire.
    Hadas Fogel, three months old, in killed in cold blood by Hamas. Her head had been sawn off. A world of difference

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:01 PM

    The red thumbs tell you a lot about the level of respect the dispicable human beings on here afford to the deceased

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:41 PM

    Fogscreen as has been pointed out before the perpetrators of that horrific crime were brought to justice. Israeli justice.

    Adjust your weighing scales please and take the brick off.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:11 PM

    No matter what way you look at it is the “Slaughter of the Innocents!”

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    Jul 21st 2014, 1:59 AM

    Fog, you are a sick fcuk!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:25 PM

    Hamas are the problem not Israel.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:50 PM

    Isreal has lost its soul. The historically abused had become the vicious abuser. How depressing this all is. Isreal needs to stop. NOW.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:58 PM

    Hamas broke the ceasefire.
    The day of judgment will not come about until the Muslims kill the Jews, when the Jews will hide behind stones and trees, there is no solution for peace initiative, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time.” Hamas Charter

    Hamas does indeed want Palestinians to die.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:15 PM

    Religious nut. Embassy working on the Sabbath?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:15 PM

    The palestine state is beginning to resemble the Warsaw ghettos of ww2.Shame on Israel where are the innocent people to go Perhaps into the sea oh no wait go there and they still kill you .

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:49 PM

    Mark Fitzmaurice, that’s one of the best comments on here… apart from my own of course.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:22 PM

    Israel is sourrounded by 300 million people who want to see it obliterated and have attempted to do so in the past on more then one occasion.It will not tolerate any threats to the safety of it’s people.Comparisons to Nazi’s are spurious and are easily debunked.That’s the reality.

    This can end today,if Hamas stop launching rockets.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:49 PM

    @Nicole/gerry. The Jewish sabbath is not Sunday

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:00 PM

    Wow very insightful

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:28 PM

    It is a war crime and justice should be served.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:37 PM

    This (imo) really is the big issue.

    In terms of governments internationally there exists no gits to stand up and say “stop this now Israel”

    Of course Israel aren’t the only issue (hamas are far from angels) but Israel has lost all perspective here.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:43 PM

    Gits? I dunno how predictive text gets that from “will”?!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:12 PM

    Predictive text reminds me of a certain government …. Does what it wants even tho it’s wrong !!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:47 PM

    Shame shame on you America. You have the blood of children on your hands. To blame a country that you helped ruin in the first place.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:43 PM

    A sure Israel can kill as many Palestinians as they like and america and the west dont give a shit there too busy trying to set up world war 3 with putin cause he set up bric bank

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:25 PM

    Will the Palestinian Authority exert it’s …..well, authority over Gaza and drive Hamas out or is Abbas waiting for Israel to do the job for him?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:00 PM

    So, no regard for democratic elections then eh Fog?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:17 PM

    Hasn’t been an official democratic election since 2006, Tony, and no plans for another. Doesn’t sound so “democratic” to me.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:06 PM

    Egyptians elected the Muslim Brotherhood in free elections but were fortunate enough to get rid of them. Hamas is part of the same head-hacking outfit as the Brotherhood and ISIS. Hamas are using the Palestinians as cannon fodder.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:18 PM

    Oh right, so that justifies your position for the current cycle of slaughter does it?

    What about in 2009 then? What was the position of denial then?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:00 PM

    Israel wants them to leave their homes. Just like they make the Palestinians leave their homes and businesses in the West Bank. Respect UN resolution 272 and withdraw from the West Bank and Palestine. Hamas are sc** but through oppression breeds resistance and as long as this operation continues you’ll find many more joining the ranks of Hamas.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:15 PM

    All that it needs to stop this is for Hamas to observe the next ceasefire. Not for 20 minutes but to just stop firing rockets. Isreal left Gaza and does not want it back. Hamas does not want Israel to exist.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:35 PM

    Hamas does not want Israel to exsist as much as Israel does not want Palestine to exsist.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:25 PM

    And continue to be imprisoned in the biggest concentration camp the world has ever seen treated as sub humans every minute of there lives controlled by an illegal occupation force. Their food and water, electricity every thing controlled by the occupiers.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:45 PM

    “Israel left gaza and does not want it”. Has to be the most ridiculous comment of all time u r after ridiculing yourself beyond belief u need to stop commenting now

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:39 PM

    I’m currently living in the Mid East and you really are getting a tainted view at home. Hammas&israel are both wrong. Watching the news here today you could clearly see rocket launches from populated areas thanks to Hammas, what’s that going to result in? Attacks by the IDF, Hammas are doing this to get press from the west and don’t care about their people!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:56 PM

    Everyone knows Hamas are being asses by launching from populated areas. That’s not in any way an excuse to use civilians as a test bed for new weaponry.
    I mean the only areas in Gaza which could be regarded as not populated areas are ones littered with bodies due to Israeli air strikes!
    Kind of insulting to people’s intelligence to imagine that mainstream media is the only media available also. It’s very easy to go beyond sky news these days.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:59 PM

    Yeah Michael go live in Gaza and see what it’s like. See if you would resist. See if you would like to see your children butchers and shredded by Israeli guns and bombs. See how it’s like to live in a concentration camp day after day. When you have done this perhaps you might like to comment from the Middle East….

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:03 PM

    The barbarity as practiced by Hamas/ Muslim Brotherhood is happening all the time from the Philippines down to Nigeria and the Irish dhimmi say nothing.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:08 PM

    Gerry, where I live at the moment I can hear IDF artillery on a minute by minute basis, I can also hear rockets, they started first!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:24 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzFgIhFKII8&list=UUawNWlihdgaycQpO3zi-jYg&index=14

    Hamas boasting about using civilians as human shields

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:37 PM

    Great Michael… Now go live in Gaza for a week and come back and see do you spout the same shite

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:45 PM

    Eh well seeing as it’s one of the most densely populated spots in the Middle East, be hard to launch them from anywhere else….I don’t agree with Hamas but I can see how it started, just like the IRA after Bloody Sunday, this type of occupation and lockdown in Gaza will make people who are not militant, radical overnight….I think the whole assault by Israel is absolutely reprehensible…fcukers, all those poor terrified innocent kids, men and women tio’

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:58 PM

    In decades, Israels attitude hasn’t changed. Little about this conflict has changed. Israel doesn’t want an change to it because they see progress as an weapons testing shoot out and as a land grab. Nothing will change as long as governments internationally recognise that most see this for what it is.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:54 PM

    Everywhere in Gaza is a populated area , it is the most populated piece of land in the world. 1.8 million people living in a concentration camp 25 mile long by 5 miles wide. Now please tell me where they should they defend their people from.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:46 PM

    Of course those doing the murdering are going to excuse their actions, ie, Netanyahu and Kerry. If you shell an area where you know there are civilians, you are responsible for those murders. Full stop.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:08 PM

    Hamas has built re-inforced bunkers for its own gang of killers while neglecting to build bomb shelters for the civilians. It usually builds rocket launchers under Hospitals schools and Mosques. The Palestinians deserve better leaders than this lot. If you really care about Palestinians then stop supporting Hamas and the other Islamofascists who are grinding them down and stealing their money not to mention their lives

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:27 PM

    Third time today fogo on third seperate article, link to back up your claims please…

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:55 PM

    Using money stolen from the aid given by the EU amongst others Hamas has built re-inforced bunkers for its own gang of killers while neglecting to build bomb shelters for the civilians. It usually builds rocket launchers under Hospitals schools and Mosques.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:11 PM

    Fog nosey is an Israeli troll spouting out lie after lie. Ignore him

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:21 PM

    Are the Israelis killing civilians on purpose or is their any truth that Hamas are using human shields? Someone is lying.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:53 PM

    Zzzzzzzzzzzz link to the proof please or can you tell us when you are releasing your new fictional novel of short stories so that we can all make sure to turn up at the launch and have a good laugh

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:28 PM

    @John it would seem pretty clear with a hundred Palestinians killed today that Israel is intent on killing civilians

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    Jul 21st 2014, 12:54 AM

    They want to kill the civilians? That’s mad. What purpose does it serve killing civilians? Honest question?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:13 PM

    Comments by john Kerry earlier disgusted me telling the Palestinians that they have to accept the ceasefire deal to save lives. This is just bullying. Israel can’t launch an attack on Palestine and then force them into an “agreement” to end it. I have absolutely no respect left for Obama, Kerry or any other politicians supporting this Israeli regime

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:21 PM

    They’ll be gutted.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:24 PM

    So you reckon Hamas should keep this going?Because that would help the Palestinian cause wouldn’t it?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:23 PM

    Yes, having to accept a ceasefire is such an imposition isn’t it? what have you got against ceasefires?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:29 PM

    Stop murdering people

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:48 PM

    Hamas is trying to kill as many Jews as possible and to eliminate the State of Israel.It proclaims, in a bizarre mixed metaphor, it will “raze Israel to the ground, exterminate the cockroach’s nest, and banish all the Z*****s.” It is a call for genocide.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:16 PM

    Gaza is the Warsaw Ghetto 2014 and as so many nations turned a blind eye to the Warsaw Ghetto in 1941, in Gaza in 2014 many again turn a blind eye. So little has changed, we pick and choose our hero and victims to suit our purpose and ignore the rest. Of course eventually this situation will return to haunt the west one way or another.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:15 PM

    It’s not really though.This can stop immediately.Hamas just need to stop launching rockets,and accept the Egyptian brokered ceasefire.It’s that simple.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:41 PM

    Brokered between whom exactly? Israel refuses to discuss anything with hamas. The eygptians didn’t speak to hamas. So, doesn’t sound like brokering to me.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:54 PM

    And go back to living imprisoned and blockaded scipio, right?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 6:38 PM

    Send in the UN

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:30 PM

    Yes yes Bibi, its not the Israeli govt ordering the Israeli army to shoot Israeli rockets into densely populated areas thats killing women and children, its hamas ‘wanting them to die’. POS warmonger should be in chains in the Heague.

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    Mute Fognostical
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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:39 PM

    Hamas has “a strategy designed to force Israel to kill their own civilians so that the rest of the world will condemn them.”
    Bill Clinton
    ” ……..Clinton pins the blame for the conflict on Hamas,”
    Hilary Clinton

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:43 PM

    Did you really just quote the former and future president of the country funding and arming Israel in relation to the conflict? Dear oh dear. Anything more from pam gellar or other famous muslim haters??

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:11 PM

    WereJammin isn’t that country also the biggest funder of the Palestinian Authority?Of course at lot of that funding goes straight into Palestininan politician’s Swiss bank accounts,instead of were it is needed.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:13 PM

    Hillary needs the votes….US simpleton

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:10 PM

    Thousands left their homes. That’ll be more land the Israelis can steal!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:23 PM

    Whatever the trolls on here say for the sake of sheer malice, there is a large percentage of the world that finds this abhorrent and speaks out about it. I think those of us who do oppose this owe it to those currently dying at the hands of these murdering b4st4rds to put pressure on our own governments to sanction Israel.

    https://www.facebook.com/JewishVoiceforPeace?fref=nf

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:40 PM

    Well said R H

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:26 PM

    My God be with the people of Gaza, and may they find the strength to continue.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:48 PM

    A question none of the Palestinian side on here has asked of themselves or each other is,
    Why is their no Bomb Shelters for their Civilian population?
    Every Small village town and city in Israel has them for their citizens. Hamas have spent years and millions of Dollars building Tunnels, Command Bunkers and Rockets. But not a single Bomb Shelter for the people they claim to represent and whom as the Governing body in Gaza are duty bound to ensure their safety. They Knew that Firing rockets into Israel you get a response from the IDF but yet they have made ZERO effort to ensure the safety of their civilians in the full knowledge of what that response would be.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:02 PM

    You’re absolutely right.

    But does that excuse anything?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:28 PM

    One thing it shows is that Hamas is far more interested in keeping it;s blood feud going with Israel,rather then doing what’s best for the welfare of the Palestininan people.But most people (barring IPSC loons) already knew that.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:29 PM

    Tony I am not making excuses but pointing out the complete disregard Hamas have for its own civilians.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:33 PM

    @mick, kind of hard to build bunkers when you are not allowed cement!! Do you know (I’m sure you do!!) that there is also an illegal blockade inflicted on the people of Gaza?!

    Hasbara trolls must try harder!!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:52 PM

    Chris. How did they build their tunnels and Command bunkers? A shelter doesn’t require re-enforced concrete. 40′ shipping containers buried about 30 feet down with air circulation systems, chemical toilets and triple bunk beds would be more than adequate. They would not be required to protect people from a nuclear strike. But would give civilians the shelter from artillery and missile fire.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:35 PM

    @Mick, one question, building a bunker for protection against the rockets fired by Hamas or building a bunker to protect civilians from the weapons available at Israel’s disposal. Who needs more concrete?!??? One word answer please, it shouldn’t take you too long!

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:06 PM

    Again the Israeli government have provided bunkers for their citizens. But Hamas have provided nothing, zero, zilch for their citizens. As I have said 40′ containers buried under 30′ of soil would provide shelter from all the munitions the IDF are currently using on Gaza. So instead of trying to make excuses as to why there is no bunkers you should be asking why they have provided none.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:37 PM

    Mick I answer that every day here it seems.

    Firstly, look at the size of the bomb craters, it would need a mighty infrastructure to protect the whole of Gaza – which can all be targeted by the IDF – in bomb shelters.

    Secondly if they had them and they worked, the IDF and the media would be describing them as “Hamas bunkers” shielding terrorists. More civilians would be fair game and it would not be recognized for what it is – as it is people are out in the open as they’ve nowhere to go – the Egyptians saw to that by closing the border.

    Thirdly, if bomb shelters/bunkers protected people from Israeli bombing, then the IDF would shift tactics and just launch ground assaults, which it has now – so what use are bomb shelters?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:41 PM

    Blockades mick blockades

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:22 PM

    RH. But to provide nothing? Which is worse. Give your people some form of shelter or give them none? You can bet your ass the all the top Hamas people are deep underground safe from all the shelling.
    If you are going to poke a wasps nest do you do it when your kids are out playing or do you put them in the house first?

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    Jul 21st 2014, 7:37 AM

    If Hama’s began building bunkers you’ve described the IDF would tell the world they’re trying to make a nuclear reactor or something equally ludicrous in order to justify a landgrab

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:35 PM

    Genocidal behaviour from Israel. Can I say that or will I be told you can’t speak Ill of Israel?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:02 PM

    Shujaiya. Remember the name. It will be remembered along with Sabra and Shatila for crimes against humanity. I hope that it’s weight will hang around the neck of Netanyahu like a millstone for eternity. Netanyahu will burn in hell along with Ariel Sharon for these deeds. Anyone that supports this act of blatant genocide deserve nothing but contempt. Shame on Israel, a state that has manifested into a racist, right wing pariah. Where Genocide is called a “War on Terror” where the murder of mothers specifically is actually encouraged in the Knesset (Ayelet Shaked MP). Or where rabbi’s such as Shumuel Eliyahu, the chief rabbi of the city of Safed call for the carpet bombing of the Gaza Strip. He also said:
    “If the Palestinians do not stop firing rockets after we kill 1000 then we must kill 10,000. If they don’t stop we must kill 100,000, even a million. Whatever it takes to make them stop”.

    A year later Eliyahu suggested the army lynch the children of Arab terrorists from trees as revenge.

    This from a chief Rabbi of the city of Safed. Who are the terrorists?!!??

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:52 PM

    Hamas don’t care for the innocent just like the shinners

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:38 PM

    @bluemist, Jaysis, how long did that take you to make up?? Insightful..

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:38 PM

    Wow blue mist u have a real insight

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:02 PM

    Bullshit. Israel don’t care for Palestinians. Huge loss of life and relentless attacks doesn’t mean they’re just attacking Hamas, they’re using their might to illustrate the land belongs to them.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:51 PM

    The Irish dhimmi are becoming very agitated now that the entire world is condemning Hamas for breaking ceasefires and using the Palestinians as cannon fodder.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:05 PM

    Actually most people with half a brain are not looking at the last 24 hours as a basis for forming a position.

    Get a clue turkey.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:56 PM

    Up to 2006 people from Gaza crossed over to work each day in Israel, earning a wage. When Hamas took over, they forbid this and anyone that continued soon stopped, just like NI a few years ago. Hence the present sad situation in Gaza. Where did all the money come to pay for these rockets? If one keeps throwing stones at your window or house, there comes a time when you say no more.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:00 PM

    Hamas didn’t ‘take over’ they won free and fair elections, at which point the US and ‘the only democracy in the middle east’(tm) said “sorry, wrong choice”. That was the beginning of what we now have in Gaza.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 6:49 AM

    @werejammin. That’s odd, you make it seem that roughly 5-600 Palestinians didn’t die in the ensuing power struggle. How could you forget to omit this? Is this more of the ‘Muslim on muslim violence is okay’ from your guys??

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:43 PM

    Israel is saying that Hamas have refused attempts to broker a ceasefire. Yet on channel 4 news a few days ago Jon Snow, in discussion with an Israeli representative, Mark Regev, said that Hamas was never even asked about a ceasefire and that no Hamas representative was present during negotiations. The Israeli rep had no reasonable response to JS assertions.(Except to repeat himself that the ceasefire was offered)

    http://youtu.be/M_-76H-YRjs at 2:45

    So I’m curious as to how the US and Israel can be spouting on about Hamas refusing something that appears not to have been offered to them.

    Exactly who was it offered to ?
    What was the name of the Hamas negotiator ?
    What were the terms of the ceasefire ?
    What was the method of communication ?
    How was the refusal communicated ?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:57 PM

    To answer my own question …. Just found this in the Jeruselem Post

    Egyptian officials relayed to the Israelis the conditions that Hamas has demanded be met before agreeing to a cease-fire – the opening of all crossings on the Gaza-Israel border, the permanent opening of the Rafah crossing that serves as the terminal between Gaza and Sinai in addition to international guarantees that the crossing will not be closed, permitting maritime access to Gaza, permitting Gaza residents to pray at al-Aksa Mosque, releasing the Palestinians who were freed in the Gilad Schalit deal but then re-arrested after the kidnapping and murder of three Jewish teens last months, and an Israeli commitment to honor an agreement that Egypt brokered regarding the treatment of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.

    Apparently the Israelis have a problem with allowing Palestinians pray at the Al-aska mosque and they refuse to release the prisoners (The have offered no credible evidence that the prisoners are responsible. In fact the evidence available suggests that it was nothing to do with them at all)

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    Jul 21st 2014, 9:40 AM

    Hamsa also wanted an airport and a shrubbery and a cuddly toy.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 9:42 AM

    PS don’t confuse the Humanitarian Ceasefire with any peace treaty , two different things

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    Jul 20th 2014, 7:54 PM

    Hmmm..did those kids get a phone call?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 10:04 PM

    Bibi the butcher

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:49 PM

    Egypt proposed a ceasefire which Israel accepted but which Hamas rejected. Hamas broke a two hour truce today. Hamas has fired over 1,700 rockets at Israel which could have killed tens of thousands of Arabs, Muslims, Christians, Jews and others in Israel but for the fact that Israel has strong civil and military defence forces,air raid warning systems, air raid shelters and the Iron Dome anti-missile defence system. Hamas is using the civilian population of Gaza as human shields. Having been attacked by Hamas, Israel is obliged to defend its people by seeking and destroying the Hamas rockets hidden in Gaza. Hamas bears the blame for the deaths, destruction and suffering in Gaza.

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    Jul 20th 2014, 9:59 PM

    David giles, lies, absolute lies and you know it! Your beloved nation are pariahs to every sane person in this world. Israel will be held to account eventually. Does it feel good to support child murder?

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:34 PM
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    Jul 21st 2014, 12:47 AM

    Just saw on al jazeera people out cheering because a Israeli soldier hss been captured. WHY am i surprised these are the people who cheered and gave out candy when 9/11 happened. Israel will now free 100s of palenstinian prisoners for 1life. Meanwhileva man in Gaza has stated he wanted to leave with his family and was stopped by hamas who threatened him. Hamas seriously dont give a shite about their own people.Qatar have condemned Israel no offer if help or refuge for the palastinians. They are worried incase they turn on them like they did in jordan

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    Jul 21st 2014, 1:18 AM

    Thats BS Julie . Its a well known fact that those shots were from a celebration. I don’t know a single arab that cheered about the twin towers. You are confusing extremists with good folk.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 1:27 AM

    Patrick
    ***MUST SEE Muslims “Palestinians” Celebrating 9/11 (CNN – Fox) September 11 ARABS twin towers 911
    look it up.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 9:38 AM

    Here is a well known fact for you to watch Patrick
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRA0NKQ0k6E

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    Jul 21st 2014, 9:52 AM

    That was footage from years before at some celebration .Did you not read my comment?.. I remember seeing that and being outraged only to find out later that it had no connection and no the arab world was not jubilated by it. There is such thing as arabs with empathy you know they are not all crazed extremists.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 6:10 AM

    Just a little bit of concern for following might also be worthwhile. 2,500 civilians slaughtered so far this year and no rockets being fired at B H. Associated Press in Maiduguri
    Saturday 19 July 2014 18.01 BST
    Boko Haram extremists have killed more than 100 people and hoisted their black and white flag over a north-eastern town left undefended by Nigeria’s military, according to a civil defence spokesman and a human rights advocate.
    Hundreds of people in another north-eastern area, Askira Uba, are fleeing after receiving letters from the Boko Haram threatening to attack and take over their villages.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 7:35 AM

    What is shocking, is that Israel is a democracy.

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    Jul 21st 2014, 5:36 AM
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    Jul 21st 2014, 2:37 PM

    Yes Micheal Connors it is shocking that Israel is THE ONLY TRUE DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. Doesent that tell you something

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:08 PM

    This is what happens when you resist the rise of the new Khazarian empire

    http://imgur.com/dGqO71m

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    Jul 20th 2014, 8:31 PM

    As the Conflict will continue to spill border after border one Solution is there if Humankind is to survive.

    As soon as possible the escalating World War needs to be defined only pro or against Equality: the old Animals versus a new Humankind.
    Two opposite concepts.

    There is one Animal kingdom, its pyramidal concept still today observed even by the Human being, and one consequent fight for survival that in this structure is to remain constant.
    There is also one concept called Equality that was always a puzzle.

    Then, how could a new Humankind be set apart from the Animal kingdom and how could this change possibly occur?
    It is not possible to Respect one Equality that is not understood.

    The Solution begins with a new concept of Equality that is defined by a new discovery.

    To recognize Wavevolution is to also recognize a sort of Equality which is neither financial nor Equality between man and woman but it is instead the Respect of a newly found common origin reflected in a new system of values sculptured in a new set of rules

    http://www.wavevolution.org/en/humanwaves.html

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    Jul 20th 2014, 11:15 PM

    Do not do on to others what others have done to you

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