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THE BLACK BAGS of rubbish dotted around some of the pavements in Dublin’s north inner city area are a source of frustration to many, and are the focus of a major crackdown by the city council.
Today, John McPartlin, the Public Domain Officer at Dublin City Council, said they have been calling door-to-door in an effort to curb the illegal behaviour – and they will be targeting ‘litter blackspots’ in particular.
Plus, they could end up bringing landlords to court if their tenants are found to be dumping rubbish illegally.
As part of the 2014 crackdown, they have knocked on over 500 doors.
The council is due to call back to some of the houses and undertake property searches.
Misinformation
They have found that there is “a lot of misinformation out there”, said McPartlin.
People aren’t aware of dates bins are collected. They’re not aware of the day of recycling.
A survey sheet is given to each household, asking them about how they dump and recycle rubbish.
“There’s a lot of multi-let houses in the area that there is no information being given to tenants whatsoever,” he said. “There are no notices inside the house.”
It varies from house to house, with some multi-tenant units having agents who look after the tagging and putting out of rubbish.
Landlords
The council will be locating and writing to landlords who haven’t been cooperating, and requesting a meeting with them.
One of the issues with multi-let houses is that the residents can change from month to month.
If DCC suspects a house is not complying with rubbish laws, it can monitor the location with a litter warden, and take away bags that are found there.
If they find evidence in them that the bags are coming from the house, they could prosecute the landlords under new by-laws.
We’d have to have a trail of evidence.
The council has advised people they should keep evidence when they buy bin tags.
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Prosecute landlords if tenants are dumping? Seriously?
Are the local authorities afraid of the townies?
“I know lets make the landlord pay a tax for local essential services”
“That will teach those messy tenants”
The Landlord should be held responsible for his Tenants behaviour. It is him who is making money from an investment and his actions should not impact on others !
What do you suggest David?
The landlord to escort his/her tenant around all day, picking up his/her waste after them?
“The Landlord should be held responsible for his Tenants behavior”???
So if the tenant gets the girlfriend pregnant
The landlord will be responsible?
So if the tenant gets the girlfriend pregnant
The landlord will be responsible?
That is a very stupid comment.
David means in the context of the property and rubbish that the landlord should be held responsible for, Didn’t think that needed explaining. You have to take into account the landlord is making a profit from the tenant but in most cases doesn’t provide any services.
Since your a landlord or just like defending them, how is it right a landlord can provide no services for rubbish, make a profit from the tenant and the council has to pick the rubbish up / pay for removal, How is that right GATHERINGYOURMONEY14?
@Jim
Stupid comment??
He did say
“The Landlord should be held responsible for his Tenants behavior”
Did he not?
And by the way ,the Landlord is not necessarily making a profit, he could be making a huge loss but that’s his problem .
The services provided by the landlord are on the lease.
If the tenant/person who is dumping illegally, can’t read the lease, let him or her get a free legal aid solicitor to explain it to them.
It is not mandatory for landlords to provide bins to tenants in Ireland.
If a bin service is on the lease
the tenant is entitled to it
If a bin service is not on the lease
then the tenant is not entitled to it.
Either way the tenants should not be dumping their filth in the wrong place.
You will find that a lot of these rogue landlords are bank receivers who flaunting the law, paying nothing or no one, exept themselves.
@gatheringyourmoney14. I do believe a Landlord should run his property like a business and be responsible as to who he puts living beside you and me and act if their behaviour is bad or offensive to neighbours. That is just my opinion and if he is pushed to make ends meet, sell the business and move on.
Sell up and move on?
Why should he?
Because a few half wit tenants can’t (or don’t want to) find the bin?
Ha Ha
The nanny state treating the tenants like invalids again.
Throughout my life, whether I was or a renter or a homeowner,
I always disposed of my rubbish responsibly.
Even if there were no bins at my residence.
Yes I’m sure you did but the problem is that some people do not. The Gardaí aren’t accused of behaving in a nanny state fashion when they enforce the law and nor should Dublin City Council when they try to enforce the law. What they are proposing is largely practical. Tenants, many may be temporary and transient, do not know when to put out bins because the landlord left no notices in the house. When I rent a holiday home in Ireland for example I always find information about bin collections etc. that has been left by the landlord. The Landlord has responsibilities and a common sense approach could help eliminate many problems. Dublin City Council are simply trying to resolve a problem which is not of their making. It is too easy to level accusations of nanny statism when public bodies are trying to deal with the consequences of individual stupidity and lack of public spirit. Littering is as much a public health issue as anything else. In this case the consequences of individual neglect fall on the collective – the public in this case! In reality this is another example of privatising the profits (I get the rent) and socialising the costs (I don’t give a toss what they do with their rubbish). Well done Dublin City Council!
@John R
So what do you do when you are on your holliers and that “ghastly landlord” does not provide you with a bin?
This is lazy nanny state politics and legislation from a lazy also-ran inept overpaid government and senior civil service.
In civilized nations, usually the people who use the services are billed for them and they show a bit of pride and responsibility.
I remember being in Germany seeing an feeble old lady (a member of the public) telling a young lad to take his feet of the seat in the underground and he did.
Nanny state Ireland.
With the.
“Ohh you forgot to wear a rubber (multiple times) did you” ?
“How terrible”
“It’s ok the state will pay”
Attidude.
It’s a pity then that everyone is not like you or we wouldn’t be having this discussion !
If you are a tenant and the landlord has not provided a bin for you.
Check your lease.
If bins are not on the lease, get your own or share a bin like the rest of us.
If bins are provided by the landlord as them where they are and use them.
If he refuses to provide them.
Ask him again until he does.
If he doesn’t.
Report him.
And in the meantime don’t make a lowlife of yourself by slinging your rubbish on the street for the rest of us to clean up.
This looks like a classic case of lazy dead beats not bothering to find a bin for their rubbish.
In comparison how many homeowners sling their filth outside their front door??
Sorry typo
“ask them”
If you leave your rubbish on the corner of Blackhorse Avenue and NCR, it’s guaranteed to be burnt to cinders on a bonfire within hours. The kids here sure are pro-active when it comes to waste management.
Ah the joys of living in inner city Dublin…Some kip…!
“I think that there should be a new law brought in that makes landlords responsible for flushing the toilet when the tenant has a sh1t”
Yeah but that would force them out into the country to have a sh!t and there’s heaps of ‘No Dumping’ signs scattered around. What’s the poor tennant left to do?
Yes, water rates
“Not if you have a landlord like mine Debbie”
“He Flushes for me”
“He even warms the toilet seat for me”
“And damn right he should the greedy scoundrel”
“Can you stop using quotes incorrectly, please”
“It’s very annoying”
“My apologies” CPM
It must be “very annoying”
Reminds me of a scene in The Simpsons ‘ Put your garbage in a garbage can people,I can’t stress that enough.’
Can’t someone else do it?
Things can be pretty bad outside Dublin, too. I live by the Curragh, a spot that fly-tippers love because it’s dark and quiet at night. The rubbish dumped there ranges from black sacks to mattresses, even a large armchair a couple of weeks ago. Who does that?!
You Madam have your finger in every pie. Your like a Miss Marple wannabe. Cataloging rubbish, the mind boggles. I for one throw my cigar butts from the Bentley as I please.
Keep going Dexter. I have been known to call the litter warden to report the regs of yokels like you who fling your rubbish from car windows. I hope to catch you one day.
You good Sir shall have to get up early to catch me. The Lord Lieutenant is a personal friend. I have a Belfast address so by all means summons me from the Republic. I laugh at your regulations and flaunt them at will. Now good sir, you must be careful not to get in my crosshairs or you’ll get two of the best from Bertha.
Seriously now ! How can landlords take the blame for the bad habits and miscreants that rent the properties, and be responsible for their bad behaviour ? Me thinks that’s more the rent will go up ??
Because the landlords are responsible, if they don’t like the fine then they should evict the tenants. It isn’t the councils job to force the tenants to put out their rubbish it’s the landlords. The landlord is the only one the council can deal with because the tenants could be gone from one month to the next.
Cos its real easy to evict a tenant…. what with them having rights and all…
Some people just wont change. Their parents did it before them and their kids will do it after them
Our government is constantly encouraging people to be as useless as they possibly can. They want us to be wholly dependent on them, and it is working.
what right does the council have to search a private residence?
About time – loads of rubbish and broken glass is dumped regularly on the cyclepaths and the path just past the 5 lamps.
Cctv and whistle blowers will sort the filthy vermin out.5 year jail term for repeat offenders.
I was taking you seriously until you proposed the five-year jail term.
Just stop their dole until the fine has been paid. Hit them where it hurts.
Cpm
Working people rent to
Given that they can’t just change employer address at will they’d be more likely to pay, plus there is a paper trail that will lead to them, so they’d have no choice but to pay.
… to pay fines, that is
Quite a lot of coke cans in those bags. As an outsider looking in, does Ireland not recycle?
Yes Brian certain people in our society spend their valuable time sorting recyclable materials and dispose of them responsibly at their own expense.
Then there are others who just sling their unsorted filth everywhere.
My landlord collects an extra €5 per week per flat for rubbish collection. Unfortunately it doesn’t include recycling. We just pay extra for that ourselves
“But your honor”
“In my client’s country, dumping is a national tradition”
“So is nature looting”
“We must not discriminate”
your a sap
Why so?
Is it not the truth?
cause you wont reply to my legitimate question at the top
I did reply.
Now why the name calling?
It’s time for County Councils to act properly.
Suing Landlords does not solve any problem!
Whoever put forward such a crazy idea should not be a member of a Council.
Why not sue Councils if people drop rubbish on footpaths? The Councils own the footpaths!
Crazy concept!
Foolish!
I’d be in favour of a system whereby the landlord had to register how many there are in their premises with the DCC and, based on those numbers, provide a waste disposal service for them that gets itemised and added to individual rent. And DCC, through a private collector, arranges the pickup. It won’t affect the people who already pay for their waste disposal and would affect those who don’t. DCC effectively does this for their flat complexes. Waste collection is paid through rent, DCC receives the payment and get Greyhound or to take the waste. DCC flat complexes are virtually free of illegally dumped rubbish, you’ll only see dumped bags if there are MTUs near by. They just need to remove the choice to dump, we live in a city and applying the same waste disposal principles as suburban areas is just not working.
Any place where there is no waste storage area other than the front path shall not be allowed for private rented tenancy.
All private complexes where rent allowance is approved shall be subject to rigorous inspections by the housing authority.
Devise a system where fines and other punishments don’t have to go to court. This could include the following;
– On the spot fines
– Any DCC housing resident caught dumping could be subject to placement into DCC flat complexes where waste is properly managed.
– A notice to landlords if their tenants are caught dumping they could be subject to removal orders.
– Offenders would be registered with the DCC and subject to regular inspections.
I think the proposed swipe system would take care of the rest.
There’s some hope getting those proposals through, it looks like the free-for-all is the preferred option. Many options have been proposed to DCC by many people.
Can a landlord evict someone for making a mess around the property? No. So until the gardai can assist in evicting usuless minging tenants, landlords should not be responsible for grown adults…
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