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Should drink drivers get an automatic ban? Doctors will be debating that today

The Irish Medical Organisation’s AGM is happening in Galway.

MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS FROM all over Ireland will be in Galway today for the Irish Medical Organisation’s AGM.

The annual conference began yesterday and will continue tomorrow, when it will be addressed by Health Minister Simon Harris.

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Several motions are set to be discussed today, including a proposal to call on the government to legislate for an automatic ban from driving, “of appropriate duration”, for anyone convicted of drink driving offences, including first time offenders.

The debate will be timely given Transport Minister Shane Ross’ proposed legislation that would mean anyone caught driving over the legal alcohol limit would get a minimum three-month ban. The bill has been criticised by some, including a number of rural TDs.

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Ross has claimed the legislation could save 35 lives over the next five years, based on Road Safety Authority figures that show at least 35 people died in collisions from 2008 to 2012 in which involved drivers were found responsible due to alcohol levels at between 21 and 80mg/100ml.

Ross recently told the Oireachtas Transport Committee: “So if people ask what good this bill will do, there is the answer. If we could prevent 35 deaths over the next five years, wouldn’t it be worth it?”

This number of lives that could be saved has been disputed as it doesn’t take into account other mitigating factors, as laid out here.

Future of healthcare 

Other motions to be debated at the conference today include:

  • Urging the government to not limit the availability of medicinal cannabis products in any future legislation by restricting their prescription to consultants and the indications for which they can be prescribed
  • Calling for the introduction of a tax relief system for debt undertaken to acquire medical training
  • A proposal that the HSE and Department of Health will publish, on a weekly basis, details of the numbers of patients on trolleys, the number of cancelled operations, the readmission rate to emergency departments post-discharge and outpatient waiting list numbers
  • A call for all health professionals to strongly support the HPV vaccination programme

The future of healthcare in Ireland will also be discussed, including talks on financial investment and why so many young doctors emigrate to pursue a career abroad.

Outgoing IMO President Dr John Duddy will address delegates this afternoon.

Keep up to date with the latest news from the AGM by following @orlaryan on Twitter.

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    Mute Funfair
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    Apr 21st 2017, 6:54 AM

    How about debating medical card holders not pension holders paying 10 euro per doctor visit. When your paying 55 quid per visit and you can’t see a doctor for 3 days because he’s booked solid with medical card holders with colds and aches blocking up the system.
    If they were charged they wot be visiting until they need to like the rest of us.

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    Mute Boganity
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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:28 AM

    @Funfair: that’s a question for the government to answer not a trade union conference

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:45 AM

    @Boganity: why is a trade union conference debating our drink driving laws then ?

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    Mute Greg Blake
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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:33 AM

    @Funfair: because doctors are reminicing the old irish local junta system. The doctor, the priest and the garda seargent that kept all the peasants in their place. They still have the ear of government and think by virtue of a few years in trinity they should set policy. Drink driving needs to be tackled, but we have a government getting paid to do that.

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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:43 AM

    @Funfair: it’s not pension card holder or medical card holder blocking up the waiting room..but women with there kids .kids with nothing wrong with them..except for a cough or runny nose..

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    Mute Suzie Sunshine
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    Apr 21st 2017, 12:15 PM

    @mad_fluffy: which are mostly medical card holders …

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    Mute Liam John Bradshaw
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    Apr 21st 2017, 6:20 AM

    Why make these laws & then debate them, drink driving should be a ban at all times. People know the law & some people are willing to drink & drive. If they take the chance they should be prepared to take the punishment!

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:25 AM

    @Liam John Bradshaw: and what’s it got to do with doctors or their trade union conference

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    Mute Kian
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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:48 AM

    @Boganity: they brought it up

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    Mute Paul Foot
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    Apr 21st 2017, 6:33 AM

    All EU countries ban drink drivers – and we should be no different.

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    Mute Gerard Heery
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    Apr 21st 2017, 6:45 AM

    Being tired behind the wheel is even worse than having one drink ,twelve hour night shifts ,!

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:26 AM

    @Gerard Heery: has this scientific finding of yours been peer reviewed ?

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    Mute Alan O'Rourke
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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:59 AM

    @Boganity: poking figurative holes in someone’s argument would be best backed up by an informed rebuttal of your own, Bog…

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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:41 AM

    @Gerard Heery: as someone who works 12hr night shifts I completely agree..i put it in the same bracket as having about 6-7 drinks

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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:22 PM

    @Boganity: it happens all the time but theres no prove ,only to say must of being speeding at three in the morning.

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    Mute Gerard Heery
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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:28 PM

    @Boganity: ok I will say in the early Ninetys worked shift and left work completely knackered after 12 hours as did other workers on the shift I’ll leave at that,

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    Mute Kian
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    Apr 21st 2017, 7:27 AM

    Ross should put more effort into enforcing the laws already in place. I’m all for zero tolerance, but what’s the point in this legislation when the guards don’t enforce the current laws with any real regularity (not in rural areas anyway). Not to detract from the issue of rural isolation (not that it’s any excuse for drink driving) but Ross needs to look outside the pale and sort out some decent rural transport links. But, knowing him, that’s probably outside his remit…

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:30 AM

    @Kian: one death saved is enough to justify the ban, 35 that’s a no brainer

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:33 AM

    @Boganity: it Is, but he’d save even more lives with better enforcement

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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:47 AM

    @Boganity: the roads are busier than ever a road fatality is enviable.. nothing can avoid that

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:08 AM

    As the journal fact find article pointed out it uncertain whether the ‘lives saved’ would ever result in any of this kind of action. We have to remember we are addressing issues so infintesmally small in quantity we couldn’t't legislate to eradicate. Fatal outcomes represent 0.0000007% of road activity. Maybe concentrating on mental health issues would have greater effect on society. But sure the corporate which is the RSA, can’t get revenue from that.

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:31 AM

    @Martin Critten: so what’s an acceptable number of deaths from driving over the limit ?

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    Apr 21st 2017, 8:34 AM

    When did doctors become law makers!

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    Mute Eileen Nolan
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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:22 AM

    There should be breathalyser kits in each car. So drivers can test themselves before they drive. So no excuses.

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    Mute Johnnie Sexton
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    Apr 21st 2017, 9:40 AM

    If you fail both blood and urine tests then obviously drink drivers should be band. End of story, otherwise why bother testing in first place.

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    Apr 21st 2017, 1:36 PM

    Like to remind Mr Ross and his supporters that text driving has been proven to be more dangerous than drink driving. So why not give them an auto ban? Or what about banning all drivers for distractive driving?

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    Mute John Flood
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    Apr 21st 2017, 1:06 PM

    What’s to debate? Automatic ban is a good strategy. Revisit impact in five years to renew or abandon.

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    Apr 21st 2017, 10:37 PM

    Funny thing about all these new laws ,if Kim Un Jong sets off a nuke these laws won’t mean a thing they’ll be alot more worrying issues come to mind like we’re did I put my 1995 iodine tablet.

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