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In full: Enda Kenny's Dáil statement on the Moriarty Tribunal

Here’s the full text of Enda Kenny’s statement to the Dáil on the Moriarty Report, delivered this afternoon.

The following is the full text of Enda Kenny’s statement to the Dáil on the Moriarty Report.

I welcome the fact that the House is holding this comprehensive debate on the final report of the Moriarty Tribunal. I am sure that members will appreciate that I am somewhat constrained in what I can say because there are legal proceedings before the courts.

“A devastating critique of a powerful elite, exposing a gross abuse of privilege. A rank abuse of public office, a devastating abuse of public trust.”

That is exactly how I described the first Moriarty report when I was sitting where Deputy Martin is now.

Across Ireland, four years later, people might be thinking, “Here we go again.”

But today, as Taoiseach, I can assure them that is certainly not the case. Because the recent election did matter. Their vote did bring change. They were right to give us their trust.

Consequently, on this, the final Moriarty Report, they can expect anything but more of the same. Because I know that yet another report, reeking of fanatical greed, obsessive attachment to power, and breathtaking attempts to acquire, use and access privilege… is enough now, for the people of Ireland. In fact, it’s too much: way too much, as they watch their own lives imploding, the future they had planned disappearing.

I believe this report will weary and bewilder people more than others. In these straitened times, when people are hurting and suffering so badly what the report exposes is all the more galling, damaging and worrying.

But in a well-functioning democracy – a republic – this information, difficult as it might be, is essential.

I welcome the publication of the final report of the Moriarty Tribunal. I welcome the fact that the Tribunal does two important things: it exonerates the members of the then Government of any wrongdoing in regard to the awarding of the licence, and it asserts that the normal decision-making procedures were bypassed in that case.

The Tribunal finds seriously, and serially, against Deputy Michael Lowry and others who are major players in Irish business and public life. The Minister for Justice has already addressed the arrogance, unseemliness and danger of their public reaction.

Deputy Lowry, however, was elected here to the Dáil, the highest forum in the land, on the basis of public trust. And it is here in this forum, that I expect him to answer Mr Justice Moriarty’s findings against him, to do it forensically and willingly: not from ego, or from the ‘position’ he and others adopted from the outset of this Tribunal, or from his sense of ‘mandate’.

I cannot imagine a mandate from Irish people – or true democrats anywhere – that would involve an order or desire or permission for the behaviour outlined in the report.

I would remind the House that ever before the Tribunal, in fact, when the first issue regarding Deputy Lowry’s conduct arose, Fine Gael acted immediately to remove him first, from Government Office and then, from the party itself.

We did so in-keeping with our desire to maintain probity and standards in politics as befits the party that founded the State. Fine Gael’s response was swift and appropriate, in sharp contrast with the blind and tribal defences mounted by other parties in comparable circumstances.

In that context then, I welcome, equally, the Tribunal’s recommendations. Recommendations that, in many ways, reflect the vital reform plans of the new government. This is a serious report that merits a serious response.

Previous Tribunals elicited thousands of words, but pitiful inaction, by those who sat, then, over here. The new government breaks from that precedent and acts definitively and decisively.

We referred the Moriarty Report to the Garda Commissioner, the Director of Public Prosecution and the Revenue Commissioners, without issue, hesitation or equivocation.

Earlier today, the Cabinet considered this report and directed the relevant departments to provide a comprehensive report to the Government within four weeks on the report’s recommendations so that appropriate action can be taken. And we plan further, direct action, to sever the links between politics and business once and for all.

And in so doing, achieve three things: stop the further pollution of our society. reestablish a moral code and order to public life, and through that, restore public confidence to politics, and to government.

In that context, then, I want to deal with the Tribunal’s interaction with the Fine Gael Party. In September 1997, the party voted unanimously to set up the Moriarty Tribunal. FG assisted the Tribunal in every way possible…. to the degree that, on occasion, the Tribunal has praised its assistance and co-operation.

Moreover, to the best of my knowledge, Fine Gael was the only political entity before the Tribunal to waive its entitlement to legal privilege and made available all notes, letters, and attendance that were available to the party’s legal advisors for the purposes of obtaining a legal opinion from an eminent senior counsel. By any objective measure, these are not the actions of a party that had anything to hide.

With regard to the issue of the Telenor donation to the party, mindful of its obligations to the Tribunal, and concerned that the donation might fall within the terms of reference of the Tribunal, Fine Gael sought the opinion of a senior counsel who gave the clear opinion that this donation did not fall within the remit of the tribunal.

That legal opinion stated that the donation in question was a donation to the Party and because it was a Party donation, and of no benefit to Deputy Michael Lowry, it did not fall within the Tribunal’s remit. Fine Gael then acted on this legal opinion.

In order to clear up any doubt that might exist about the clarity of this opinion, I have instructed Fine Gael party officials to publish it on the party’s website immediately.

For its part, the Moriarty Tribunal has recognised Fine Gael’s entitlement to adhere to the strong legal opinion it received. Equally, the Tribunal expresses its regret that the party did not over-ride that opinion.

There are three points I would like to make in this regard: Firstly, I don’t just share Mr Justice Moriarty’s regret. I believe the failure to over-ride the legal opinion, was in hindsight, wrong. Secondly, the circuitous and clandestine way in which this cheque was routed to the party was also wrong. This resulted in the then party officials not being initially aware of the true source of the donation. When the source did become known, the position of the party leadership was unequivocal.

I quote, directly, from the final conclusions of the Moriarty Report. Section 62.04 states

That donation was unwelcome to the party and was rejected by the Party Leader.

Not alone did he reject it, the then-Taoiseach, John Bruton, ordered that the money be returned.

The Tribunal says:

It is satisfied that he (John Bruton) sought to convey to Mr Austin that acceptance of this donation was entirely inappropriate. This is confirmed by his subsequent direction that the donation should immediately be returned to the donor, on learning that, contrary to his wishes, the donation had in fact been received by FG.

Thereafter, when Michael Noonan became leader and the donation was, once more at issue, he in turn, ordered that all relevant documentation be made available to the Tribunal, with alacrity and seriousness. The Tribunal welcomed his actions in so doing.

Thirdly, in the context of the new, revitalised republic we are in the process of building – the government and the people working together in trust and partnership – neither action would happen today. Because I believe that to recreate political virtue, to rebuild public trust, to restore our reputation, it is no longer sufficient to do what is correct. To achieve even a fraction of that, we must do what is right.

Because while what is correct starts in legal opinions and rules and legislation, what is right starts here in the human heart, in our conscience, in respect for our neighbour, in the values that define who we are and what we want to be. If this is how we try to live our lives in this country, then this is how we should practise our politics.

I speak for the entire government when I say this is what will inspire and drive our tenure.

In the Programme for Government, which of course was published by the new Government and endorsed by this House prior to the publication of the Moriarty Report, we set out proposals for the most comprehensive programme of political reform since the 1930s.

We believe that politics must be about service to the public, and not to provide financial gain for politicians, or anyone else. We have already kept our promise to reduce the salaries of members of the Government and to reform the arrangements in relation to Ministerial transport.

With regard to the relationship between business and politics, we committed ourselves to introducing the necessary legal and constitutional provisions to ban corporate donations to political parties. We also committed ourselves to reducing the limits on donations to political parties and candidates and requiring disclosure of all aggregate sums above a limited threshold. We promised to introduce a statutory register of lobbyists, as well as a set of rules governing the practice of lobbying.

With regard to the relationship between civil servants and Ministers, we need to introduce reforms which reflect the transformation that is taking place in this relationship in light of the Public Service Transformation Programme. And, of course, the Programme for Government outlines substantial reforms in this area.

We will introduce whistleblowers legislation, and return Freedom of Information to where it was before the 2003 Act. We will amend the Official Secrets Act, retaining a criminal sanction only for breaches which involve a serious threat to the vital interests of the State.

We will scrap the current restrictions on the nature and extent of evidence by civil servants to Oireachtas Committees and replace them with new guidelines that reflect the reality of the authority delegated to them and their personal accountability for the way it is exercised.

We will also amend the rules to ensure that no Minister or senior public servant, including political appointees, can work in the private sector in any area involving a potential conflict of interest with their former area of public employment, until at least two years have elapsed after they left public service.

We will also introduce reforms which, while not directly related to issues emerging from the Moriarty Tribunal, will ensure that trust is restored in our democratic institutions and that the concerns of citizens, rather than the elites, are placed firmly at the centre of Government.

In its terms of reference, the Moriarty Tribunal was asked to bring forward any recommendations which it deemed appropriate in relation to the matters investigated by it.

In this context, in addition to dealing with the issue of political donations, the Tribunal’s Final Report outlined a series of recommendations in the areas of company law; the independence of the Revenue Commissioners; and the future conduct of Tribunals of Inquiry.

With regard to Judge Moriarty’s comments on the conduct of Tribunals of Inquiry, the Government, of course, has restored the Tribunals of Inquiry Bill to the Dáil Order Paper. This Bill will provide for a comprehensive reform and consolidation of the current legislation relating to Tribunals of Inquiry and to put in place a modern, comprehensive statutory framework governing all aspects of the operation of a Tribunal, from the time of its establishment to the publication of its final report.

The Bill implements in large part the proposals contained in the Law Reform Commission’s Report on Public Inquiries, particularly those relating to the more efficient management and operation of public inquiries. We will review the Bill in the context of the Report’s recommendations about Tribunals of Inquiry.

Of course, much comment has been made on the effectiveness of using Tribunals at all for inquiring into matters of urgent public importance.

The Government are committed to holding a Referendum, subject to approval by the Oireachtas, to reverse the effects of the Abbeylara judgement and enable Oireachtas Committees to carry out full investigations.

Overall, for the sake of our democracy, and in the context of the national misery caused by weak and reckless administration and corrupt, self-serving politicians: we must return both government and parliament to the people.

We must rehabilitate the idea of civic virtue – the idea of the duty and nobility of public service. We must. And we will.

In conclusion, let me say that as Taoiseach of the new government – and indeed as the father of this House:

The very fact that a modern democracy – a still-young republic – would require tribunals into payments to politicians at all, is proof of the degradation of politics, the decline of civic virtue, the inevitable rise of public cynicism and disengagement.

It shows, too, what happens to a society when people swap the big idea of their being responsible, powerful citizens for the infinitely smaller and confining idea of being mere customers or consumers.

Ironically, it was Deputy Lenihan who best summed up our current situation when he said last Thursday, that “Nothing would damage our international reputation more than uncertainty on an issue of that character.” He was right.

But where he says would damage, I say incalculable damage has already been done.
Because of a culture of, ‘Thanks very much, big fella,” walking-around money, whip-arounds, luck on the horses, of a Taoiseach degrading our nation and this Office by trousering after-dinner tips… a culture typified by arrogant, mercenary and immoral politics that almost ruined our reputation… made a mockery of ‘character’ itself.

When that culture included business and banking, it contaminated our country, divided our society, and diminished our republic. That contamination, division and diminution must end.

Now, when the stakes are soaring, with the eyes of so many on us; when as a country, we have the palpable, urgent sense of our making a new start, for and with each other, together, for a change; and the contamination, division and diminution do end; here with the new government, with a radically different standard, a radically different view.

And it is this: that the Irish people are citizens of a republic. That we have rights and responsibilities to build a bright future, a strong economy, a compassionate, thoughtful society. And that we will exercise those rights to the fullest by believing and showing that we cannot be bought, cheapened or exploited by politicians, banks and businesses – whoever they might be.

This new ‘speculation’ in favour of the citizen, democracy and justice, can do much to give our own people – and others – new confidence, faith and energy in the ideals on which our republic is founded.

Yes – Ireland might be a small country. But we are a significant nation: our honour, reputation and future are priceless. And can never be for sale, whether as a matter of fact, perception or opinion.

When I was elected Taoiseach, I spoke of restoring morality to our public life. I did so aware that we are haunted by a previous ‘morality’, where elements of the Church and State colluded to permit all kinds of savagery on our society.

It was a morality that decommissioned conscience, suffocated ‘the spirit’, created an architecture of intrigue, denial and deception that excluded ‘heart’, ‘truth’ even ‘humanity’ itself.

In the aftermath of this report, I want the government and the people to work together to bring a new, life-giving morality to public and civic Ireland.

A morality based on compassion, kindness, thoughtfulness, dignity, honesty. And above all, respect: respect for ourselves, respect for all who share our society, our country.

Respect that brings out the best in the Irish people, making us responsible for our choices, for our actions; keeping us mindful of their consequences for the generations to come – because the future belongs to them.

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    Mute eircomsucks.com
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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:37 PM

    What do they consider personal use exactly?

    I’m not a company but if i post a link to a newspaper on eircomsucks.com will they want payment from me?

    What if i post as a user on http://www.boards.ie and say xyz about a story and post a link, will they want payment from me and/or boards.ie/daft media?

    The newspapers here are just trying to somehow protect their dieing business model, rather then evolve and try and compete in a new online world like thejournal.ie or even the likes of bbcnews.com they want tp protect the old business model for as long as they can.

    The sad thing is, they are fools and the old business model is dieing a death.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:42 PM

    Just to add, what if I’m a company and a newspaper does a story about my company. Am i not entitled to link to something about my company.

    Isn’t that exactly what Women’s Aid did?, they simply linked to a story about them!

    Are the newspapers looking to create some crazy world where they want company’s and people to charge THEM (the newspapers) a fee for writing a story about them!

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:12 PM

    They want you to hit the share button to post to your Facebook/Twitter whilst also having the power to sue Boards.ie etc. for allowing you to post it there.

    Basically they want to do as they please.

    I would actually love if they took on Google over sharing of links. Let’s see how far they go if Google decide to exclude them from their search engines

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    Jan 4th 2013, 2:33 PM

    Just to add,

    Are the NNI members going to pay message board users for content they effectively steal from them?

    Not a week goes by where papers throughout Ireland use content posted by users on boards.ie, sometimes they mention its from boards.ie other times they “claim” its from somebody writing to the paper.

    Thing is the letters etc match word for word when compared to the posts made on websites like boards.ie, often the stories include photos that the users have posted on boards.ie as well.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 8:24 PM

    OK, this is not a problem. If they publish an article on me or my then I expect to be paid, they use photograph of me, my product or my home/factory then they can pay me or my company for the privilege.
    Can’t see them winning this one.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:43 PM

    I’d love to share this with my friends, but I’m confused about whether I’m allowed :(

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:49 PM

    Just go for it, now im pretty sure journal.ie won’t bite your toes off.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:55 PM

    I’d say Share, Tweet, Share, Email & Facebook buttons are a bit of a giveaway.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:46 PM

    The Personal Use issue is a red herring.

    They actually have said, in this and other earlier statements, that there is no legal difference between links- no matter what kind of use is being made of them
    “the same legal principles apply to both” as they say.

    The statement is therefore a restatement of the assertion (still not supported by citing any statutory basis) that newspapers have the power to grant or withhold permission to link to their sites.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:49 PM

    What’s going to happen next? PS well done on making everyone so aware of this nonsense.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:27 PM

    I’m glad to see this absurd matter is getting some coverage, if you don’t want you articles linkable – stick up a paywall. Links are the whole point of the world wide web.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:51 PM

    No problem. Nobody post links to any of their sites and it wont be long before they change their minds. Advertisers will start pulling out when they see traffic is down. In summary they can go and shite.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 2:22 PM

    +1 & Spot on!….. We should all be ignoring them anyway as all they are is propaganda rags.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:23 PM

    The NNI members have probably realized they’ve shot themselves in the foot after the article on mcgarrsolicitors.ie. If they insists on charging per link used, Google would drop them from their database like a rock in the water, as would every other search engine.

    NNI probably also finally realized that anyone sharing links drives traffic TO their sites by way of FREE ADVERTISING. I share links around quite frequently. If I got hit up for fees, I’d send a few back of my own for advertising fees.

    Standard industry practice allows a person or company to use quotes based on a ‘fair use’ basis. This means a small percentage of a total work can be quoted without having to pay fees, and as long as the original source is quoted. One is not meant to take a full article, such as this one, and post it in its entirety onto a blog or other website, regardless if they’re claiming it’s their own or the property of TheJournal.ie or the author, Susan Daly. That’s not just copyright infringement, it’s also plagiarism (if claiming the work as one’s own).

    However, one can pull the first paragraph or two of this article and post it on their site and link back to this original page under ‘fair use’. This is what most people do. The previous days discussions about this issue have pretty strongly insinuated that the NNI members want fees for doing this.

    If this becomes law, I can see most of these papers going out of business fairly rapidly. Not just from readers no longer sharing content, thus losing readership and advertising sponsors, but also from search engines no longer catering to their sites, which is actually a free service for the NNI members.

    Personally, as a business owner, if anyone wants to share pages off my website with friends, go for it. I just ask that you credit us for the content by linking to our pages. It’s all free advertising for us and I thank you! :-)

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    Jan 4th 2013, 5:40 PM

    NNI are claiming even more than any “fair use”. They are claiming it’s copyright infringment to *link* to the article even if you quote NONE of it: “a licence is required to link directly to an online article even without uploading any of the content directly onto your own website”

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    Jan 4th 2013, 6:05 PM

    I know, Rory. Is that insane or what? I wonder if the papers are in such dire straights at the minute that they’re thinking of doing this to generate some revenue. I mean, why by the paper if you can get it online for free, right?

    An easy solution would be for all the papers to have a nominal annual subscription. It wouldn’t work for just one or two papers. They’d all have to do it, even the likes of TheJournal.ie. I know I’ll get red thumbs, but it makes sense. The fee would not some over the top fee the Irish Times brought in a few years ago and no one subscribed. The annual subscription rate would take the place of the license fee for using links casually. Any links wanting to be used in a professional or commercial way would obviously have to get permission and pay more unless the two parties could come to an understanding.

    Hmm . . . I wonder how it works when you take a link and feed it into bit.ly to spoof/shorten the URL.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:45 PM

    If they keep this up The Journal and the rest will make a killing. You’re watching the dying days of traditional Irish media. We should do everything in our powers to help Irish newspapers get this through. Keep it up..the sooner the better.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:10 PM

    Nonsense. It’s logical to charge a fee for linking to someone else’s site – that’s advertising. The IT would justifiably charge a large fee for a banner ad on their site, linking to a page on mine. For me to expect a fee FROM them to link to a page on my site would be just ludicrous. If the newspapers don’t want a site linking to stories on theirs, let them make it pay per view (and see how long they last). They can’t have it both ways: freely available on the web, but nobody’s allowed to link to it. That’s now how the web works. That they think they can get away with this may be just another symptom of the underlying problem: even though it’s in common use for over 15 years now, they have failed to adapt to the reality of the world wide web.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 2:31 PM

    So by NNI’s logic, if a librarian points to a book on a library bookshelf then he or she is infringing the copyright of that book.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 12:59 PM

    Who controls NNI? Would i not be correct in saying Denis O’Brien? Pat Rabbitte refused to limit his ownership rights and control of media in Ireland. This is what you get in return. We also had FFG supporting ACTA when the rest of Europe said it was censorship of media and therefore voted against it. We are being controlled more and more. For years, Irish Press and the Indo/Sindo were the mouth pieces of the political establishment. With newspaper sales dwindling and only being read by older generations, these new measures and controls are being put in place to limit freedom of speech, to suit the Political establishment and their very wealthy media oligarchs. Shameful, and its no surprise the rest of the world media are laughing at Ireland.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:04 PM

    Hi Cal, No, it wouldn’t be right to say it is controlled by Denis O’Brien – the full list of members is visible on http://www.nni.ie/v2/broad/index.php – it includes Thomas Crosbie Holdings, Irish Times, Rupert Murdoch-owned papers and others, as well as Independent News and Media publications. Just for clarity.
    Thanks, Susan.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:15 PM

    Thanks for the clarity Susan, but at the end of the day, Denis O’Brien controls the Indo, Today FM, Newstalk and others. His undue influence is felt across all of that media (Look what happened to Eamonn Dunphy, when he voiced his concerns about O’Briens control of media in Ireland.
    I agree Murdoch controls a lot of media also, but Murdoch wouldn’t even dare attempt to support such a move in the UK, he doesn’t have that Government in his pocket… We need to learn a lesson from them. We have a couple of Oligarchs who can do what they want in this country, and our Government supports them.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:28 PM

    In fairness Carl, Rupert Murdoch practically owns the Conservative party. He had Thatcher deregulate the entire sector in the 80s, Andy Coulson was appointed Cameron’s PR man, Rebekah Brooks is closely tied to the Tories and if the News of the World hadn’t been caught out for tapping phones Cameron would have dismantled the BBC by now.

    We need to stay far away from Britain’s example

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    Jan 4th 2013, 2:06 PM

    I obtain all my news on the Internet and use the Journal on a daily basis and I am in my mid seventies.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:48 PM

    Blatantly copying chunks of content on to your webpages one could understand as infringement but trying to restrict linking to content is just silly…a link is no more than recommending/referencing and actually strengthens their website and sends referral traffic….greedy shower of toerags!

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:09 PM

    Well their logic concerning hyperlinks also dictates that the NLI should be storming local noticeboards and slapping fines on those who tack up clippings from newspapers.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:20 PM

    “The display and transmission of links does constitute an infringement of copyright”

    Total nonsense.
    There is no unique content under the standards of what is copyrightable in a url.

    Even with the content itself ‘fair use’ is a standard of copyright so a small extract is perfectly allowable.
    If you wanted to go stricter you could re-write the article title in your own way, but you could not copyright the URL itself. There is no copyrightable content in a url.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:25 PM

    This would only fall under copyright if, let say you, used that URL in your own personal (paid) advertising. It also falls under misrepresentation were you to do so.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:30 PM

    Quite a bit of what you see in pressn is direct PR from groups such as Women’s Aid (for example).

    If they send that out to 5 media outlets and they all publish it on their website then who owns the copyright? NNI haven’t thought this one through at all

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:40 PM

    I stopped buying the IT since Xmas eve when despite in a reducing market and in the middle of a severe recession they increase their price to their customers in the Republic. The Law of Diminishing Returns never seem to cross their minds nor the fact as to why it is still referred to as a Law.

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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:55 PM

    I stopped buying it when I first read the Guardian about 12 years ago and realised what a newspaper could be.

    Have occasionally felt bad on missing out on Irish commentary, pick up a copy and realise again why I love the Guardian so much (G2, sports, international & comment section)

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    Jan 4th 2013, 3:02 PM

    Belgian newspapers have been through all of this, and it didn’t turn out to well for them…

    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110718/16394915157/belgian-newspapers-give-permission-to-google-to-return-them-to-search-results.shtml

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    Mute Alan Breen
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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:52 PM

    If they don’t want it shared, stop putting “Share this” buttons under the articles.

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    Mute Bocque d'Robbeur
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    Jan 4th 2013, 5:43 PM

    I recently told somebody where to find an old copy of the Indo, thus inadvertently sending the paper a new reader without first asking permission.

    I hope their bill for my mistake won’t be too high and I promise never to recommend them to anyone again.

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    Mute Niamh Ní Fhoghlú
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    Jan 4th 2013, 2:15 PM

    This is such a trivial action. to copy and paste a link wrap it in some HTML and post it on your own website. That very act should not require licencing. its a Joke and whats more It needs to get as much air time as possible to show how silly this is…

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    Mute Niall Power
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    Jan 4th 2013, 3:52 PM

    I haven’t bought a newspaper in five years, I get all my news on my smartphone,nThe only time I miss the Irish times is when I have caught a few trout and need to gut them?

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    Mute Saoirse Cullen
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    Jan 4th 2013, 3:49 PM

    Newspapers should be paying people to link to their online articles, that’s how the generate traffic and therefore make money out of having these articles online. By their logic I should start charging Facebook for the privilege of hosting my content?!

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    Mute Will Hourihan
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    Jan 4th 2013, 4:59 PM

    Yes I agree. I am completely bamboozled by their stupidity and of all the organisations they decided to test this out on!

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    Mute patrick
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    Jan 4th 2013, 7:49 PM

    And yet they’re charging advertisers on the basis of a given amount of web traffic, which, without links will come from…???

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    Mute Marko Burns
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    Jan 4th 2013, 7:33 PM

    I look forward to aggregated news websites charging The Irish Times for linking to their news articles and thus generating more money for them in their banner advertising revenue. That must be worth a 15% cut I’d imagine?

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    Mute Michael McTague
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    Jan 4th 2013, 9:28 PM

    Considering most off the print media now use “lifting” copy and paste from the web I find it quite strange that they would be concerned about copy right infringement

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    Mute Nydon
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    Jan 4th 2013, 1:49 PM

    While the argument for stopping online news aggregators inserting links to articles on “established” and “reporter employing” newspaper sites is obviously fatally flawed and cannot be justified in the context of the basic function of the worldwide web, what is the case for or against the “scraping” and rebranding of news by framing the third party content within an aggregator site while keeping the reader within the confines of the referring site? Surely this is not justifiable or fair use?

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    Mute Sandra Moody Hennessy
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    Jan 5th 2013, 2:02 PM

    This is just crazy, by creating a hyperlink to an article you are generating traffic to their site and in-turn increasing their readership. Also, most of them have social sharing buttons???????????????????????????????

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