Iurach, most Irish people saw the rebels as traitors after 1916.

Thomas Kent is a predecessor of Gerry Adams.

The cameras were banned by injunction of the Taoiseach’s office/Denis O’ Brien’s head office from showing Kent turning round and round in his grave at the way his beloved country he fought and died for has been sold up the river by corrupt spineless quislings masquerading as leaders of the people.

Will you keep politics out of if today please . Have some respect .

Keep politics out of an intrinsically political state event, is it? Right so Phil, right you are.

Ted I haven’t heard anyone call the Revolutionaries of 1916 “Marxist guerrillas” however if you study the Proclamation that Pearse read out that fateful morning ( to a handful of bewildered passers by ) you’d see that the idea was freedom and equality for all citizens of Ireland. We’re far from there, Kenny and Martin and Burton aren’t looking out for the ordinary people.

But Ted – to hijack the funeral by giving the oration is both disrespectful to our President & a bit crass really. The
accusations that we in SF are attempting to hijack what is all of our history ring hollow when our Taoiseach pushes his way in on what should have been our Presidents role & our Tanaiste at the same time shows disrespect to Republicans across this island is galling

Utter and complete bs that you and the rest of the neanderthal knuckledraggers Sh**e on about. There’s only one legitimate army in this country, deal with it. f**k the cira pira etc ira.

@ Jason: “Without any facts, your comment makes no sense.”

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html#part3

“ARTICLE 12

1 There shall be a President of Ireland (Uachtarán na hÉireann), hereinafter called the President, who shall take precedence over all other persons in the State and who shall exercise and perform the powers and functions conferred on the President by this Constitution and by law.”

inda is merely the head of the current government. The President is the directly elected head of state.

And where does our say that the president should preside over a funeral of a dead guy from 100 years ago? Shame on you for bringing politics into his scenario, because for sure if it was Taoiseach Adams you would be singing his praise and his triumphant words from a great height.

“Shame on you for bringing politics into his scenario”

Speaking of seeing irony……

Speaking of seeing?? What kind of English is that? And how can you see irony?

Democratically elected Taoiseach of an independent Irish State, a direct by-product of men like Kent.

Save your shinnerbot pettiness for another article.

It’s disgraceful that you claim to speak on behalf of James Connolly.

How come it has taken 99 years of Fianna Fail and Fine Gael governments to remove his bones from a prison?

Thomas Kent would be ashamed of what Ireland became.

Men like Kent didn’t fight and die for a Colonial Free State that shines the shoes of the same institutions that sought and still seek to oppress the Gael.

Men like Kent had integrity, they preferred an honourable death denying tyrants to collaboration.

Men like Kent would recognise our government, our social system, and our legal system to be directly opposed to the Republican ideal.

You have betrayed men like Kent.

Cos the body was only found Coles

@ dermo : “Democratically elected Taoiseach of an independent Irish State”

We’re not independent, your buddy inda signed away our fiscal sovereignty to ze germans.

Diarmuid, do you make room in the bed for Enda at night or do you keep his side warm for him?

You’re just sounding more and more stupid “James Connolly”

As impossible as it seems diarmuid, jamming is getting stupider by the day

The schoolyard bully boy blueshirt trolls start with the name calling.
Keep it up Connolly,playing a stormer.
Grow up lads.Its comical stuff coming out of ya at this stage…….

“If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organization of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain. England would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs.” – Séamas Ó Conghaile, Óglach (James Connolly, Volunteer).

He was right, except he didn’t seem to expect that a Colonial Free State faction would emerge and continue to fight and oppress the Gael for Britain’s elite while pretending to be his spiritual successor (i.e. the Blueshirts).

Socialist republic?

The Eastern Europe is much poorer than the Western because of idiotic socialist policies.

He wasn’t executed for shooting the officer. He was executed for armed rebellion – i.e. an offence against the State in contravention of the Defence of the Realm Act.

Well according to this very publication “Thomas and William Kent were tried by field general courts-martial for ‘wilful murder’ in Cork on 4 May 1916″.

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/thomas-kent-funeral-2338234-Sep2015/

In any case, Kent’s “armed rebellion” consisted of shooting a policeman.

1916 = hero 1976 = terrorist I never understood that.

The “Old IRA” is an purposefully developed cop-out by parties who used to be Republican and revisionist historians who like to look through rose-tinted glasses at the flying columns but demonise every volunteer since.

That’s the point I was trying to make about our not so beloved leader.

Ben, maybe you can quote where I said I knew what he’d think if he were alive today. All I have said is that he most certainly did not fight for anything less than a 32 county state, and as such, Enda Kenny has a gall to stand over his grave and claim that what Thomas Kent fought for has been won.

He fought for an independent state, surely? It may not encompass the entire island, but you can’t have everything. Any nationalist in the know at the time must have realised that partition was a fait accompli.

He said that Thomas Kent’s objective had been won. At no stage did Thomas Kent, nor any of the men of 1916, set out to achieve a partitioned country. They set out to achieve a 32 county republic. Men from north and south fought together for the same aim. The men from the north, like Kent, did not fight for their exclusion from the rest of the country. The claim made today by Inda, that Thomas Kent’s aim has been achieved is an outright lie.

The history books would appear to contradict you.

“The first in the scale of unmentionable implications for the future was the strength, including the military strength, of Ulster Unionism. In planning the Easter events, the IRB effectively conceded the partition of Ireland; there was to be no action in Belfast (Connolly knew how promptly civil war would engulf the city’s proletariat); the Belfast man Denis McCullough (1883-1968), who headed up the IRB’s Supreme Council, was therefore kept in the dark about the Dublin plans: as notional President of the Republic he was deceived about its declaration.”

W.J. McCormack, ‘Dublin 1916 The French Connection’, p.48

Mr Collins called the Treaty a ” stepping stone ” to achieve a Ireland united in the future,
The 6 left behind Counties on his mind, he was arming the men in the North and fighting
them in the South

Ben, that quote, as you can surely understand/admitt is a reference to the efforts of the IRB being “effectively” partitioned due to the lack of action in Belfast. It is not a claim of, let alone evidence of, the Volunteers fighting to attain an actual partitioned country. To suggest otherwise is wholly dishonest and deliberately misleading. The Volunteers of 1916 at no stage aimed for anything less than a 32 county Republic. To suggest the Rising was a fight for anything less is to rewrite history to back up Enda Kenny’s disgusting lie today that Ireland is free and that what Thomas Kent died for has been achieved.

The shinners just know, okay.

Nothing to do with “shinners”, the point is that it is a self-serving and outlandish lie to claim that the men of 1916 fought for anything less than a 32 county Republic, and that as such, their aims have yet to be realised.

Fantasy historical BS to think the men/women of 1916 all believed a 32 county republic was attainable, despite the vast northeastern Unionist population and the Ulster Covenant.

Many of the protagonists of 1916 sided with the Pro-Treaty majority a few years later.

@Tir Eoghain Gael, The quote clearly states “In planning the Easter events, the IRB effectively conceded the partition of Ireland”. Why else were prominent northerners like Denis McCullough and Bulmer Hobson kept in the dark about the plans for a rising?

I said initially that nationalists at the time realised that partition was a fait accompli, the historical evidence backs up that assertion. The issue of partition barely features in the treaty debates. I’m not saying they envisaged partition as an ideal situation, but they accepted it as an inevitability. And I doubt Thomas Kent, a Corkman, had the foggiest notion about the north.

So was every other regiment in the country, casement tried to sail to Ireland to warn the rebels what would happen it was a crisis cross game with the bull raferty calling off the rising outside of Dublin, hence why it was staged in o Connell street

Or women A Chara

No they did not side with the Treaty that is why we had a Civil War, with the pro treaty recruiting Tommy from the Trenches!

exactly

I’d imagine Niall is referring to the fact that Thomas Kent was a principled, unashamed Irish Republican who put the people before himself and as such, was everything Enda Kenny isn’t.

not this one

Because the state got the ass sued off it some years ago for not providing soldiers with ear protectors when shooting otherwise than in combat. Can’t remember how many hundreds of million it cost.