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LAST UPDATE | 3 Dec 2021
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF new rules requiring all overseas travellers to Ireland to have a negative Covid-19 test has been delayed until Sunday.
The rules were scheduled to come into force after midnight this morning but were pushed back as the rules needed to be “finalised”.
In a statement to The Journal, Aer Lingus said: “The Irish Government notified airlines last night that the new regulations will now have an operational date of 5 December and not 3 December as previously advised.”
“We will implement accordingly,” Aer Lingus said.
In a press briefing tonight, the Transport Minister Eamon Ryan said that the introduction of the move has been delayed to facilitate airport staff and airlines to get the system in place.
“We will still be able to travel it is not a restriction either within the country or outside the country.
“But again from the good precautionary principle, we’re introducing the requirement for an antigen test if someone is vaccinated or previously recovered from Covid or PCR test if someone is unvaccinated.
“It’s put back to tomorrow night to give airports and others time to introduce the measures and the regulations needed.
Health Minister Stephen Donnelly signed off on the regulations amending requirements around international travel to Ireland this evening. Anyone travelling to Ireland after midnight on Saturday will need to produce a negative Covid-19 test.
Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, Justice Minister Helen McEntee denied that the change was an example of confusion behind the scenes in government.
“I think people will appreciate that a number of departments are involved here. It takes time where you have to engage and make sure that the regulations are correct. This is simply procedural. It’s not that there has been a change at all. There is just a little bit longer time needed between departments to finalise these,” she said.
After a Cabinet meeting on Tuesday, the government confirmed the new travel rules requiring negative tests for inbound travel.
The negative test can be either a PCR test taken in the previous 72 hours or a professionally-administered antigen test taken in the past 48 hours. Children aged 11 and under will not be required to have a negative test.
The new measures, which are be reviewed again in a fortnight’s time, come amid increasing concern about the Omicron variant of Covid-19 and will apply to persons arriving into the State at ports and airports from overseas, and including people travelling from Britain.
Similar requirements for a negative test introduced in the UK last week do not require people travelling from Ireland to provide a negative test
People who do not have a negative test and arrive in Ireland will be subject to fines and will be required to isolate at home or their final destination until they can provide a negative test.
On Wednesday, the first case of the new Omicron variant of Covid-19 was detected in Ireland in an individual who had returned from southern Africa.
A preliminary study by South African scientists suggests the Omicron variant is three times more likely to cause reinfections compared to the Delta or Beta strains. The findings, based on data collected by the country’s health system, provide the first epidemiological evidence about Omicron’s ability to evade immunity from prior infection.
With reporting by Garreth MacNamee, Rónán Duffy and Lauren Boland
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You mean up till now Ireland were letting people in with Covid positive test results?!!!
@Jonathan Nolan: no. Vaccinated people did not need to have a test
@Elaine Phelan: So is the vaccine not working or why there the need for a covid test as well? I’ve had two shots but assumed I’d be okay to travel without a covid test. So many confusing stories, hearing now that I need a 3rd shot now and a 4th in 100days for the new variant and maybe a 5th 12wks after that. That’s a lot of vaccines in one year for someone youngish fit and not carrying a lot of excess weight. I honestly thought the science said covid mainly effects the elderly and vulnerable. Does it stop transmission at all Elaine?
@Elaine Phelan: are you serious?! Is Ireland the only country that think vaccinated people can’t get it or spread it?!!!
@Richard Right: who is telling you to get all these vaccines?
@Richard Right: don’t get your information from Facebook friends
@Richard Right: Get yourself a level of minimum information. Not so hard to do
@Elaine Phelan: yes they do. If you read the article it states ” regardless of vaccination status”.
@Jonathan Nolan: are you serious?
@Jonathan Nolan: no. That is the policy for all EU countries. Fully vaccinated did not need to get a test prior to travel
@John B: wow. Possibly why airplane is getting 3000- 5000 new cases a day.
Here in Australia if travelling interstate, you have to get a test which has to be negative or you cannot travel.
Over there it seems they are only bringing this in now. Sounds like you could travel whether you were vaccinated or not, positive or negative.
@John B: and yes, I am serious
@Jonathan Nolan: I think now we have to look at the covid cert as a badge of been vaccinated nothing more.As one can still bring,spread covid everywhere you go, possibly why our numbers are so high as people feel more confident they won’t get it and let down there guard.
Anyone I know down at the moment with covid all vaccinated .
@Ann Morris Doolan: you’re 40% less likely to spread it if vaccinated so I guess it’s all about the level of risk that you pose to others. It’s the only real indicator available at present.
@Richard Right: Would you ever f off. This is a evolving situation as we learn new things about the virus. Fact is that the vaccine is saving lives. BS like your post is what is costing lives.
@Richard Right: stop getting your info from Facebook. The vaccines stop most people getting very ill from covid. They are working very well as deaths are way down compared to cases. They don’t stop you getting covid and they only slightly reduce your likelihood of spreading covid. Also we don’t know yet if vaccines work against new variant so makes sense you would need negative test to enter the country.
@GrumpyAulFella: Where are you pulling that percentage from? I think I know where…
@Johannes Baader: Great I’ll add you on Facebook when I join, I’ll get the same information as you then.
@Jonathan Nolan: exactly my brother in law nephew niece her husband and 2 kids all vaccinated and got it
@Josepi: I think you mean WHO not where. This is their statement last Weds
“Covid vaccines reduce transmission of the dominant Delta variant by about 40 percent, the WHO said Wednesday, warning that people were falling into a false sense of security concerning jabs.”
What percentage are your Facebook friends telling you?
@Elaine Phelan: So you could be vaccinated and still carry the virus
@Jonathan Nolan: You could travel if vaccinated. If not you had to have a negative covid test.
@GrumpyAulFella: The WHO that are funded by pharmaceutical companies?? If you look at the cases for the last 4 months at least you can see this is a big fat lie.
@Josepi: of course. It’s all a big conspiracy. Whisper, the room is bugged.
@GrumpyAulFella: Yep . We will take that piece of advice and ignore the fact that they don’t want booster rollouts.
@Franny Ando: we’ll that’s kind of ridiculous. All this time the WHO and governments and health agencies right across the world have been saying that even if you are vaccinated you can still get it and still spread it. So with that rule, what you are saying is that the vaccinated (like me) have more chance of spreading it than the unvaccinated because the unvaccinated are tested and the vaccinated aren’t when travelling. As I said above, no wonder cases in Ireland are between 3000-5000 a day
@Jonathan Nolan: Well I don’t make the rules was just telling you as it is. But we have the magic covid cert it let’s us go anywhere:). In my opinion I believe it is the vaccinated spreading it not the other way round.
@Josepi: Report condemns swine flu experts’ ties to big pharma
Trio of scientists who urged stockpiling had previously been paid, says report
Scientists who drew up the key World Health Organisation guidelines advising governments to stockpile drugs in the event of a flu pandemic had previously been paid by drug companies which stood to profit, according to a report out today.
An investigation by the British Medical Journal and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, the not-for-profit reporting unit, shows that WHO guidance issued in 2004 was authored by three scientists who had previously received payment for other work from Roche, which makes Tamiflu, and GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), manufacturer of Relenza.
City analysts say that pharmaceutical companies banked more than $7bn (£4.8bn) as governments stockpiled drugs. The issue of transparency has risen to the forefront of public health debate after dramatic predictions last year about a swine flu pandemic did not come true.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/jun/04/swine-flu-experts-big-pharmaceutical
@Oriel Man: Crawl back under your rock.
@Jonathan Nolan: You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about yet you continue to spout nonsense.
Sound. Forked out 80 quid for antigen tests this morning that I didn’t need. Thanks last minute goverment omnishamblery.
@Fergus: my daughter tested positive for covid 2 weeks ago, so my son and I had an antigen test and tested negative. My daughter then used one of the antigen tests and tested negative. So we decided to get a pcr test as we felt fluey, we tested positive. Antigen tests are useless as far as we experienced.
@Fergus: Snap will the reimburse the people that did ?
@Rex Tilson: You need to do a Minister Ryan on it and get another.
@Rex Tilson: that’s exactly why big bad ‘they want to keep us locked down forever for some big global reset reason’ nphet for so long weren’t recommending them and still aren’t fully behind them. Too many false negatives.
@Mark Morrissey: cancelled a trip I paid for on Tuesday night as couldn’t take the risk of being stuck. Would have been back Saturday.
@Rex Tilson: Antigen tests pick up when you are infectious which is the most important thing. How hard is that to understand?
@Rex Tilson: were the antigen tests self administered?
@The Cuban Lad: no they have to be done by a chemist as you need a cert my poor parents paid $200 and wasted half day of holidays getting one.
@Rex Tilson: cool story bro
@Rex Tilson: they aren’t useless, just not as accurate and you also have the variable of poeple not doing it right when administering themselves.
@Fandandi: wife administered the tests, she is a senior staff nurse and properly trained in the administration if them. Any other assumptions you’d like to make for me to correct you in.
@The Cuban Lad: No, trained nurse administered them.
@Alan Kenny: Daughter tested negative on antigen test despite positive PCR result. Was isolating because she was infectious, maybe you should read slowly so you understand comments.
@Fergus: pull the other one
@Rex Tilson: wasn’t talking about your specific case you pleb, was talking about their use in general. Even with your expert wife, the best case scenario is 80% accurate. Maybe don’t assume I was talking about your specific situation.
So this is the new normal?
When do we stop hiding under the blankets?
I’ve been jabbed and jabbed again, in the belief that we could return to normal life.
@Frank Jasper: most people are living very normally. What restrictions are disrupting you on a day to day basis? Without vaccines we’d have 9,000 more dead, no hospital system and we’d all be locked in our bedrooms.
@Frank Jasper: why did you believe a government that has no trustworthy track record? Genuinely curious.
@GrumpyAulFella: I work 1-2 days a week near Liverpool
This is a serious problem for me
@Raymond Scott: the tests are published by public health England not Bojo the clown.
When the figures were worse did you question them?
Genuine question.
@Frank Jasper: well yeah I see your problem. Having to work in a different country is unfortunate and Covid rampaging across the UK. Take as much protection as you can and try and be cautious with contacts is about all you can do.
@Frank Jasper: I question everything the Irish government communicate. Since I experienced them in last 20 years totally inapt and untrustworthy. I never believed such a hastly developed ‘vaccine’ would be the holy grail. Turns out I was right, it wanes and doesnt stop transmission. People that are vulnerable should take it since it does partly help. The mantra take it for others as social responsibility has proven to be the nonsense that I assessed it to be from start.
Con job.
@Frank Jasper: Ah come on, its hardly new news that the vaccine doesn’t work as well with the delta variant. That normal life statement was probably true with previous variants. Things change. Its new to everyone and nobody can predict how it will play out. Be thankful we have a vaccine at all otherwise it would be a proper nightmare now……… Would hate to hear what you’d be saying if it was a more deadly virus, a world war or a potato famine….. Get out from under your blanket, wear a mask, sanitise, social distance and be thankful its not worse.
@GrumpyAulFella: What normal life? You have to think 10 steps ahead with everything you do. International travel is what most people do every year and that’s changing on a weekly basis. You could get stuck in another country and have to fork out 2 grand. No certainty to anything. You have to book appointments to eat, go to the gym, etc. Nothing, and I mean absolutely can be spontaneous anymore. Not grabbing a quick bite to eat in a fast food, or grabbing a coffee. Forgot your ID? That’s everything out the window. Every single aspect of life has changed. Absolutely everything has been blamed on COVID, even if the business is just doing x, y, or z to be lazy. Maybe you’re antisocial, and work from home, but nobody is living normally at the moment. What planet are you on?
@GrumpyAulFella: If Covid is “rampaging” across the UK as you put it, then how would you describe what it’s doing in this country?
Cases per 100k over the last seven days
UK: 460 per 100k
Ireland: 642 per 100k
@Tomo: TBH it doesn’t impact me. I’ve my Covid cert on my phone. If I want to go to a coffee shop, the local pub, wherever, I just show it and there’s no problem with my drivers lic, which they seldom ask for. Yeah international travel may have a couple of inconveniences but if you’re vaccinated, you do a test before departure and job done. You’d expect these extra checks during a pandemic. I’ve been more stressed on a Mon morning in Dublin trying to get through security to catch an early flight to LHR to be honest.
@JedBartlett: in fairness they have got death numbers down from 300 a day into double digits now and they have just over 44,000 cases reported daily. The express booster rollout is clearly working. But they are bringing in further restrictions which even in Conservative noddy land must mean that there is an element of concern coming up to Xmas. Let’s face it, Bojo has been absolutely reckless with every decision he has made. The upward trajectories following early opening are appalling with a massive loss of life, 145,000 now, double our number per capita.
Can you ask for a reimbursement from the government when you already paid for a PCR test abroad yesterday cause you are arriving in the country today and now hear sorry you don’t need it until Sunday and also are already fully vaccinated ????? What a joke
What if get covid within 48 hrs …am I OK to come into the country.Or how will the Authorities know? Should the tests not be taken just before getting on the plane and directly after? There’s another agenda here I’d say.
@Me Darlin’ Dublin: balancing of probabilities in terms of timelines of potential infection I would imagine. Also, it takes time for an infection to multiply sufficiently for detection, so a test just before and just after the aircraft would be needless duplication, as it should give the same result. If you want to test that proximate to flight one would be enough.
What agenda do you think is there?
@Me Darlin’ Dublin: You never left so don’t be fretting
@Me Darlin’ Dublin: most people would make sure to be careful after getting their test. There should be an arrival test after a few days though to make sure you didn’t get it on the plane. I flew home on Sunday and did an antigen yesterday and will do another tomorrow.
@Me Darlin’ Dublin: deffo makes much more sense as one can go clubbing two nights in a row after test and pick it up and jump on aeroplane.
@Me Darlin’ Dublin: this policy is stop people travelling. Loads of people have cancelled for fear of getting stuck.
@Barry Ryan: You’re dead right. It is to stop people travelling. The same as Coveney closing the passport office last year, while dressed up to be a level 5 restriction, was all about preventing people from travelling. I’m triple vaccinated at this stage, going to the UK for a football game early in January and have no intention of getting a “professionally administered” Antigen test before returning.
Add #negativeantigen to this article aswel please. People will look at the headline and think it’s only PCR and it will cause confusion. Why only the #negativepcr ?
@Cormac Harte: Antigen test is mentioned in the second paragraph.
@JedBartlett: yes but why nit in the tag line of the article, wheN PCR is mentioned ?
@Cormac Harte: *when *not
4 quarterly vaccines by 2023.
That has been the instruction.
The End.
(Of humanity)
@O’Brien: How does that tinfoil hat fit? Does it fall off when it’s windy?
@Paddy Kennedy: enjoy your 4 boosters a year pal
@Paddy Kennedy: You mean the people who said earlier in the year we’d need boosters. They were also asked about the “ignorant “tin foil hat. You mean those who said countries would try to make it mandatory those tin hats, those who said we’d still be looking at restrictions this Xmas those tin hat etc etc I must get one because so far those tin hat foil wearing people have been 100 % correct.
@Franny Ando: can they give us the lottery numbers for the weekend please? Why do we have scientists when the nutty professor gang are fortune tellers and have all the answers?
@GrumpyAulFella: Did you or did you not comment on the very same articles. You and many like you sneered and were extremely rude to those who even suggested it could happen. Whole different ball game now.
Where do you apply for the refund for the test you’ve taken already for arrival back today?
The Journal should also stress the 72 & 48 hour rule is from the time of arrival and not departure. This could make a big difference for long haul multiple flights and time difference.
@Brendan Barry: Official DFA statement says “departure”:
“Those travelling with an antigen test result will need to have obtained it within 48 hours of departure, and it will have to be professionally administered. No self-administered tests will be accepted, under rules considered by cabinet. Those with a PCR test result will have a longer pre-travel window of 72 hours”.
@Sean Boyle: No Sean it’s arrival I’m sure of it see below.
@Brendan Barry: they’ve changed it! What I quoted was taken from Govt website earlier this week. Then they said ‘departure’ now they say ‘arrival’. Govt changes its advice, whats new about that?
MOL asked a good question the other day in what is a professional Antigen test ? and how would his checkin staff plus border officials know the difference between someone buying one in a chemist and having it done by a professional.
Very vague in the wording.
@Dave Byrne: the professional one will have result printed and signed by the professional who did it. A box bought in a supermarket, won’t.
@Proudly Italian: Again they have not stated what’s a professional antigen test and who may carry out the tests.
@Dave Byrne: do u really have to be told everything. U obviously don’t know that a professional in mainland Europe is a Doctor or Pharmacy’s who carries out the antigen test & certified it ..
@Christybhoy67: What about Paramedics/Nurses etc would they qualify to carry out the tests.
@Dave Byrne: Good. Buy a test from Lidl, give it to a Nurse to administer you, have her write down on a piecve of paper the result, see if it’s accepted.
@Christybhoy67: That’s incorrect. The “professional” private companies doing these tests are not using qualified doctors, nurses, or pharmacists to conduct the tests. I have a couple of friends working for one of the “professional” companies in Dublin doing these tests. They are as qualified as I am, apart from wearing PPE while administering them.
@a: My point exactly the people who did the CV19 testing initially were EMT Paramedics etc so are they qualified to do the testing?
@Dave Byrne: all you need is a piece of paper saying you’re negative… what’s the matter with you ?
The EU commission told Portugal who have been doing this since Wednesday that they have to review it asap as the EU Covid Pass is supposed to be sufficient and there is no provision for any measures beyond that for travel within the EU.
Secondly Portuguese news saying that 20 people were stopped in Lisbon for nt having the PCR test…indicating that the airlines are not checking for it at the boarding gate. That is the problem…Ryanair/ Aer Lingus will have major probs. telling a 25 Serbian staff member on the boarding gate at Krakow to tell have the plane who don’t watch RTE that they can’t fly…and have lost their money…I can see yet anothg cave coming.
The results will need to be in English? Or they are smart enough to Google translate negsteve/positive from other languages? I’m booking mine in Italy for my way back in Jan, not easy to find in English. And thanks to the NoVax 1d10ts, Not easy to find at all.
@Proudly Italian: Check gov.ie they said it was only for two weeks!! Though this is the government they are just after postponing today’s decision for 48 hours. Not much help to those of us who paid 45 euro to come back this evening.
@Franny Ando: not going to risk. I’ll book them. If not needed I’ll cancel. I am flying back on the 7th, and it’s public holiday on the 6th in Italy.
@Proudly Italian: Enjoy:)
@Proudly Italian: In June i had a PCR test done in Italy. They offered the test result in Italian or English but English cost 40 euro more! I just took the result in Italian and there was no problem on my arrival back in Dublin
More kneejerk reaction and scaremongering and dithering from the government.
Just bring in measures luke Austria and now Germany for unvaccinated people…simples…!!!!!!
@PHB090: No
Who’s going to compensate me and my partner who got an email yesterday in Malta telling us we had to go get tests before our flight this this morning, €70 for the two test and half yesterday trying to find a place to get the test done.
Both vaccinated and both recovered from covid since august .
Not for the next 48 hours they don’t.
Can’t see this been checked on all passengers, maybe a random check here and there but if left up to the DAA it’s hardly fair on their staff to implement checks.
@rhino burns: the airline should be checking all passengers before boarding and not letting them board if they don’t meet the entry requirements of the country they’re flying to.
@rhino burns: The Airlines will be checking as they already do in other countries
@Christybhoy67: it’s not the airlines responsibility
@Christybhoy67: Passengers arriving in Lisbon yesterday with no PCR…indicating they were not checked at the boarding gate by the airline…EU Commission last night told Portugal to review that ASAP…as Covid Certs in EU are sufficient and there is no provision for extra checks for inner EU travel beyond that. Hence the Govt. windiness.
@The Cuban Lad: well it kind of is. They wouldn’t let you on without proper ID because it’s required to travel, so they shouldn’t let you on without a test if that’s needed to enter the country. I travelled with Air Canada last week and you couldn’t print your boarding pass you had to go to the desk and get it, and you could only get it after showing proof of vaccination and negative test.
@The Cuban Lad: it’s the airlines responsibility to stop you bringing >150ml of liquid into the cabin so you can’t potentially make a bomb on board, this is their responsibility too insofar as it’s preventing a pandemic causing virus moving about to some extent.
If this was a life and death decision that was really going to turn the tide in reducing case numbers then they would have implemented it straight away. Adding 2 days on to the implementation date shows what the government really thinks testing already vaccinated passengers. It’s literally being done to be seen to do something. As an aviation worker who’s industry has been decimated the last 18 months and has received literally no support from the government it’s vile and disgusting to see this. Decisions made by individuals who’s paychecks won’t be affected. Everyday is a step backwards it seems.
What about people travelling over to the uk and back same day ?
@Damian Faulkner:
That’s a problem for me I work near Liverpool 1-2 days a week on a regular contract.
To do a test 48hours before I travel back to ireland would mean I would have to take the test in Ireland before I leave
Just got a notification from RTE to say it’s been delayed two days.
@Sam Harms: what has been delayed?
Already out of date
I’m going to London for the weekend, so, will the PCR Test I get before I leave be valid for the return to Ireland , it is still within the 72hr window?
I’m just happy that everyone on the flight next week will have tested negative….that was my biggest worry that I’d be sitting next to someone who has the virus, or is nor vexed.
Happy to pay for the test.
Just pay the fine, no testing needed. (but do stay at home).
What time? Is it midnight on Saturday?
If I fly out to the UK on a Friday morning and plan to return Monday afternoon do I need to book a test in Stanstead Airport for when I arrive so I will have the results for when I depart Stansted
@Hugh Mc Donnell: an antigen test has to be taken within 48 hours of arrival back to your home airport, or PCR within 72 hours of arriving back so I don’t think you can do what you are planning.
How much do these tests cost? Can results be valid if done at a free test centre in the UK?
@Declan O’Dwyer: free tests aren’t accepted. I paid €60 for my pre travel PCR a few weeks ago.
@Sam Harms: thanks Sam. It’s expensive enough for family to return to Ireland for Christmas without this extra expense. I wonder when in a few weeks time and the new variant is widespread in this country, will they abandon this test?
@Declan O’Dwyer: I don’t know. Lots of countries have had prearrival testing in place for a good while now. Personally I think it’s a good thing because you at least know everyone on the plane has been tested. Definitely made me feel a bit better when the guy in front of me for 7 hours was coughing his guts up!
You’ll need “a professionally-administered antigen test” to get back into the country. So the over-the-counter tests won’t be much use but a note from anyone anywhere purporting to be a doctor will be acceptable.
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Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
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