Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.
You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.
If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.
IRELAND HAVE RETAINED the Six Nations title after a 17-14 win over Scotland at Aviva Stadium.
While hopes of a historic successive second Grand Slam were ended by defeat in England last weekend Andy Farrell’s side responded with an all-important result in front of their own fans.
Advertisement
On a day that Italy condemned Wales to a Six Nations whitewash for the first time in 21 years with a 24-21 win in Cardiff, this was a nervy night and despite Finn Russell converting a couple of penalties, a Dan Sheehan try helped give Ireland the advantage at the break.
Scotland were resolute and fortune was on their side as Ireland had a pair of tries ruled out from Tadhg Furlong and Robbie Henshaw.
Andrew Porter eventually crossed the line for Ireland and while Huw Jones gave Scotland some late hope of another dramatic ending Ireland regained composure to ensure a successful end to the campaign.
To embed this post, copy the code below on your site
Close
38 Comments
This is YOUR comments community. Stay civil, stay constructive, stay on topic.
Please familiarise yourself with our comments policy
here
before taking part.
They shouldn’t be allowed call it a debate. Being asked pre-determined, previously seen questions one by one with very little opportunity to make your point, discuss or even argue, is not a debate.
And why include the norths number by him saying “the island of Ireland”. Anything else he’d like to use the north’s numbers for? His budget figures maybe?
Maths might not be his strong point, who cares? Enda and the rest of them are not exactly superior to him in that regard. It is the finance spokesperson you look to for clarification and detail. Adams to me has a clear vision for the way he wants to see this country going forward and how all of our citizens should be treated equally and looks to bring about a more socially just society.
This is a quote from Vincent Browne on him
“But it was Gerry Adams, who, more than any other single person, was responsible for delivering the most significant political achievement of Irish history for generations: the peace agreement on Northern Ireland. In terms of achievement, no other figure in Irish public life rates even close to him.”
Nice selective quote there watersedge. You must have missed the rest of VB’s article in which he said there’s no difference between the shinners and FG/FF except for a marginal increase in minimum wage.
He said the shinners wanna be like FG – established and centre right.
“Now all they venture is to increase the minimum wage to €9.65 an hour. There is some decent analysis of social conditions in the Sinn Féin manifesto, but the thrust of the manifesto is so cautious and “responsible” one wonders why they don’t they just merge with Fine Gael, along with the Labour Party, Fianna Fáil, Renua and Shane Ross?”
“We all know Gerry Adams was one of the leading figures in the IRA for a long time and it is no surprise he denies that, for to do otherwise would leave him open to criminal prosecution and, probably, civil suits.
We also all know of the complicity of Gerry Adams in legions of IRA atrocities, atrocities that probably would have happened anyway, with or without him.”
Correct Watersedge. From the questions you could swear that a sitting Taoiseach personally does the calculations himself on budgetry matters. I don’t put too much stock into Gerry Adams not being able to regurgitate numbers somebody else has come up with as well as the other leaders.
Speaking of questions, its a general election debate where leaders set out their partys stalls. First question was about his alleged IRA membership. Once he gives his response, it then moves onto enda kenny who immediately makes a smarmy remark about Mairia Cahill.
You couldn’t make it up. Hopefully its as blatant to undecided voters.
Miriams face was priceless when he asked her about her own salary though.
“Maths might not be his strong point, who cares? Enda and the rest of them are not exactly superior to him in that regard. It is the finance spokesperson you look to for clarification and detail. ”
Surely if this applies to Gerry Adams, then it must equally apply to all parties?
Comparing him to Enda and the rest of them, but giving him a “pass” because it’s not his area – but yet no such pass to the rest of them?
Every leader of every party who wants to be in Government should have their figures correct – if they are all crap, then they are all crap.
Yes, sadly many suicides are recorded as misadventures. A friend in a palliative care unit remarked how in a macabre way they term many of them the “single car collision department”.
I hope, whatever Fridays outcome, we remember in the next Government to address our mental health services. http://trickstersworld.com/2016/02/23/the-reformation-will-not-be-televised/
Don’t think any of the parties maths are good, they have all got something wrong somewhere, it would be great to see an overall TRUE / FALSE for each party now, it might show us overall who is telling the truth or not, also show who knows what they are at least taking about to some degree
So Gerry Adams was singularly responsible for the northern Ireland’s peace process?? That’s news to Albert Bertie Hume and numerous other players no doubt…
Shane, just putting up a quote by someone. It is Vincent Browne’s opinion. Adam’s was a key player in the peace process, there is no doubt that Hume etc also were. It was a huge achievement by all of those involved.
Ciaran you don’t commit suicide, you die by suicide, by using word commit you suggest a crime. Suicide is no longer a criminal offence in this country.
I always thought that the nature of politics in this country was listening to half truths, especially when you hear politicians talking about the ‘dogs on the street’……lies, lies and more lies.
Tommy macdonagh/Diarmuid……..Gerry Adams….blah bah blah Gerry Adams, Britain must leave the European Union Gerry Adams blah blah. There you have it in a nutshell,your tuv manifesto sorted for the upcoming Strormont election.
Imagine saying to another person “are you a worthy person “? The sheer arrogance and hypocrisy of saying to someone else are you a worthy person ? Especially in light of the other people Gerry Adams was standing with. Did she ask the leader of the country who defends a country where you can die on a hospital trolly in a corridor and people cannot find somewhere to live. The sheer hypocrisy is sickening., Miriam o Callaghan is firmly ensconsed in the establishment and earning a fortune, with a brother in FF. Why would she want SF to get into power, nothing to do with morals just faux outrage. Very hypocritical, devious and manuipulative, what else would you expect from the cosy cartel in RTE.
keith, she was technically incorrect as RTE pay her company the (actually multiples of) hundreds of thousands. she pays herself a director’s emolument. like everyone in the room, they all cost the state over will over a€100 each – how they receive it, and what they do with it is different, but you are looking at well over a million a year going from taxpayers directly to the performers in this “debate”. shocking.
Gerry Adams makes a play in debates at trying to embarrass interviewers asking if they earn over 100k.
What he really means is that he would screw RTE if he ever gets into government……
You say that like it’s a bad thing Chris. If RTE had to stand on it’s own two feet it would be gone in 6 months. Sub par programming and sub par ridiculously over paid presenters. If they knew what they were doing and gave people what they wanted in a national broadcaster they might generate enough to be self sustainable. Maybe even attract some actual talent if the numbers were up.
Enda admitted to deceiving the Dail with regards McNulty but that’s ok because that’s blueshirt politics – dirty & dishonest. Enda even if he could perform and have any modicum of leadership quality has zero credibility. He’s the grand spoofer – really hope the electorate wise up this week & vote them out.
Setrakian, did Kenny mislead the Dail on the subject? That’s the big question this morning. We also have a minister for finance in iding 2 days out from a general election, due to information emerging over an extremely serious matter.
But no doubt we’ll have another 24 hours of ‘Gerry Adams ate my hamster’ crap.
The debate showed last night how shockingly bad the leaders of the big parties are. Time to give someone else a shot….Social Democrats have my vote and they weren’t even at the debate last night
Fully agree Beano, if anything, the debate showed the need for a new injection of new politicians and parties. I disliked the format of the entire show.
My God, Beano. I’m surprised at that. You do know that the SDs don’t intend to sterilize the unemployed and that they have a humane view on homelessness? I really thought it would go against your principles to give a vote to a party that would spend your tax money on things like that.
Didn’t watch last night. It was obvious what was going to happen. The short lead in to the election is not conducive to 2 debates featuring the same characters. The only interesting debate was the 7 way one.
It’s a sad indictment of the state of politics here when Michael Martin came out as the only leader of a main party who is articulate
I agree it is time to give somebody else a shot. I am voting SF because somebody else needs a shot. Social Democrats Stephen Donnelly voted for the eviction bill that’s why I couldn’t give him a vote. Only thing with SF is Gerry Adams needs to step down I think Pearse Doherty would be the right person to have in charge
After how well put together last week’s debate was this debate was just shoddy all around – from a set that was falling apart, to the inconsistent, disconnected lines of questioning (e.g. jumping from cronyism to climate change) to the weak, tired responses. I echo others in saying it really missed the other candidates. I hope Social Democrats and Renua pick up some votes.
It’s also getting very tiring hearing Adams go on about “the establishment” when he has been around since the dawn of time, and is in government in Northern Ireland, implementing the very same taxes and cuts he describes as “mean-spirited” in the Republic.
It was upsetting seeing how poor, how evasive, how mealy mouthed and how lame all four “leaders” were.
Burton did less moaning than usual and tried to conduct herself but still displays how vacuous she is.
Catherine Murphy, Stephen Donnelly and Roisin Shortall are all vastly superior.
The irony of a tiny party fielding 14,candidates and 3 excellent leaders ( as well as decent and enlightened policies) against the dross and drivel of the rest.
Sadly, Irish voters may vote for the same tired parties, with the same tired policies and same tired leaders expecting different results. Human nature!
Yep and everyone will continue blaming those “leaders” for being poor rather than the people who continuously elect them. Can’t blame the politicans for making a living off a society who are happy to continuously reward cronyism, incompetence and broken promises with high paying jobs and pensions.
Burton looked like she was planning for her retirement next week. Gerry Adams was comical dipping questions about what he’d do with the health service. He just kept pointing out what’s wrong. We all know what’s wrong!
Dan, how about a summary of the fact checks? E.g. Joan 10 porkies, 5 half porkies, 3 facts. Would be interesting to see who has been spinning the most/least
Looking at the shower of four last night, it is time for a real change. Sadly, the Irish voters may prefer the same tired out familiar and predictable lame ducks.
Burton did better in this one by keeping shtum and not saying as much. Kenny dropped a clanger with the McNulty admission. Adams still doesn’t know his own policies at all well. Martin spoke well, as usual, but wouldn’t have won many over with what he was saying. All in all, I expect support for the four parties to drop.
No fact check to see if a person by the name of Senator Cahill existed? Adams hadn’t a bulls notion who Kenny was on about (whatever about not knowing his party policies, he’d surely remember Ms Cahill!).
They will soon enough. I’ve decided last night their candidate in my area is getting my first.
I’m only starting to get to know him but I’m not voting for him but for the totality of the party. I don’t agree 100% with them but they are smelling good to me
Same here. The cosy cartel of FG/FF/Lab needs to be killed.
SD’s No.1 for me. No transfers ever again for the “what’s in it for me” brigade that between them have ripped this country apart socially and economically.
Terrific to see proper and fair analysis of what I’d loosely term a debate. Challenging what our “leaders” say is critical if we are to emerge from the current Chumocracy and regain some representative democracy. Only by moving on from the politics of cronyism, corruption and nepotism can we build a fairer society.
The best outcome from an electoral standpoint would be a Fianna Fail/ Fine Gael Government that leads to a United Left Opposition. If Friday puts to bed the faux civil war politics we might end up with a genuine political divide. A Left/Right divide that could open a real debate about the type of society we want. Will we continue with Boom and Bust of Failed Right Wing Capitalist policies or will we try a different route? http://trickstersworld.com/2016/02/23/the-reformation-will-not-be-televised/
I’ve only read the first claim so far, but I have two things to say:
1. 784 is NOT “almost 1000″, so the claim is FALSE, not true.
2. Gerry, you’re running in an election in the Republic of Ireland. I know you don’t like it, but that remains the case. NI stats are irrelevant. Adding them to ROI stats and quoting them as a total is even more irrelevant.
Debate? They aren’t able to debate, shockingly inarticulate. There seems to be no level of expertise which warrants the massive salaries and expenses these people are paid. Ireland is a small country barely moving out of recession, yet our politicians are still on salaries that the ordinary person can only dream of.
According to a quick google the suicide rate has increased in the north in the last few years with the highest rates in Gerry’s ex constituency.
Can you confirm that sucide rates have increased in the north since SF took office,
And there’s this too – “The research team from the Bamford Centre for Mental Health and Well-Being at the University of Ulster has examined the link between conflict-related events and suicide attempts in Northern Ireland.
Their analysis of data from over 4,000 people – collected in 2008 for a World Mental Health Survey initiative – backs the suggestion that traumatic events associated with the Northern Ireland conflict are associated with suicidal thoughts and plans.
Professor Siobhan O’Neill, who is leading the research, said: “Suicidal ideation (thoughts) and behavior are important public health issues, not least because they give us an insight into the factors associated with death by suicide.”
The journal is obsessed with d leaders debate last night thank f I didn’t waste my time in watching it and thank f I’m selling my 2016 vote to d highest bidder that’s how I feel about d lot of them only in it for d easy state pensions
The only one that told the truth was Jerry Adams the rest of them lied true there teeth about every figure that was mentioned .Everybody knew about the 7% that was silly by the opposition trying to score brownie points .
Pregnant women warned to stay away from sheep during lambing season due to risk of infection
28 mins ago
256
The Morning Lead
Conspiracy theories are fuelling attacks on NGOs and aid workers, expert warns
Niall O'Connor
6 hrs ago
2.1k
Rosslare
Ferry remains docked in Rosslare after woman dies in incident on sailing from Wales
Updated
17 hrs ago
139k
Your Cookies. Your Choice.
Cookies help provide our news service while also enabling the advertising needed to fund this work.
We categorise cookies as Necessary, Performance (used to analyse the site performance) and Targeting (used to target advertising which helps us keep this service free).
We and our 152 partners store and access personal data, like browsing data or unique identifiers, on your device. Selecting Accept All enables tracking technologies to support the purposes shown under we and our partners process data to provide. If trackers are disabled, some content and ads you see may not be as relevant to you. You can resurface this menu to change your choices or withdraw consent at any time by clicking the Cookie Preferences link on the bottom of the webpage .Your choices will have effect within our Website. For more details, refer to our Privacy Policy.
We and our vendors process data for the following purposes:
Use precise geolocation data. Actively scan device characteristics for identification. Store and/or access information on a device. Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development.
Cookies Preference Centre
We process your data to deliver content or advertisements and measure the delivery of such content or advertisements to extract insights about our website. We share this information with our partners on the basis of consent. You may exercise your right to consent, based on a specific purpose below or at a partner level in the link under each purpose. Some vendors may process your data based on their legitimate interests, which does not require your consent. You cannot object to tracking technologies placed to ensure security, prevent fraud, fix errors, or deliver and present advertising and content, and precise geolocation data and active scanning of device characteristics for identification may be used to support this purpose. This exception does not apply to targeted advertising. These choices will be signaled to our vendors participating in the Transparency and Consent Framework.
Manage Consent Preferences
Necessary Cookies
Always Active
These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work.
Targeting Cookies
These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. If you do not allow these cookies, you will experience less targeted advertising.
Functional Cookies
These cookies enable the website to provide enhanced functionality and personalisation. They may be set by us or by third party providers whose services we have added to our pages. If you do not allow these cookies then these services may not function properly.
Performance Cookies
These cookies allow us to count visits and traffic sources so we can measure and improve the performance of our site. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. If you do not allow these cookies we will not be able to monitor our performance.
Store and/or access information on a device 104 partners can use this purpose
Cookies, device or similar online identifiers (e.g. login-based identifiers, randomly assigned identifiers, network based identifiers) together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it each time it connects to an app or to a website, for one or several of the purposes presented here.
Personalised advertising and content, advertising and content measurement, audience research and services development 136 partners can use this purpose
Use limited data to select advertising 106 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times an ad is presented to you).
Create profiles for personalised advertising 78 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (such as forms you submit, content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (for example, information from your previous activity on this service and other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (that might include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present advertising that appears more relevant based on your possible interests by this and other entities.
Use profiles to select personalised advertising 77 partners can use this purpose
Advertising presented to you on this service can be based on your advertising profiles, which can reflect your activity on this service or other websites or apps (like the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects.
Create profiles to personalise content 37 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service (for instance, forms you submit, non-advertising content you look at) can be stored and combined with other information about you (such as your previous activity on this service or other websites or apps) or similar users. This is then used to build or improve a profile about you (which might for example include possible interests and personal aspects). Your profile can be used (also later) to present content that appears more relevant based on your possible interests, such as by adapting the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find content that matches your interests.
Use profiles to select personalised content 33 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on your content personalisation profiles, which can reflect your activity on this or other services (for instance, the forms you submit, content you look at), possible interests and personal aspects. This can for example be used to adapt the order in which content is shown to you, so that it is even easier for you to find (non-advertising) content that matches your interests.
Measure advertising performance 127 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which advertising is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine how well an advert has worked for you or other users and whether the goals of the advertising were reached. For instance, whether you saw an ad, whether you clicked on it, whether it led you to buy a product or visit a website, etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of advertising campaigns.
Measure content performance 60 partners can use this purpose
Information regarding which content is presented to you and how you interact with it can be used to determine whether the (non-advertising) content e.g. reached its intended audience and matched your interests. For instance, whether you read an article, watch a video, listen to a podcast or look at a product description, how long you spent on this service and the web pages you visit etc. This is very helpful to understand the relevance of (non-advertising) content that is shown to you.
Understand audiences through statistics or combinations of data from different sources 75 partners can use this purpose
Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Develop and improve services 82 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 38 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 43 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 25 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 86 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 96 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 68 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 50 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 84 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 64 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
have your say