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THE IRISH EMBASSY in Beijing has not removed displays of support for Ukraine, despite the Chinese government asking all foreign embassies to take down “propaganda” from their facades.
Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs says it will continue to have “visual reminders” of its support for Ukraine during the war.
A spokesperson for the European Union said the protocol department of the Chinese Foreign Ministry circulated a note on 8 May asking diplomatic missions to “respect Chinese laws and regulations” and “not to use the external walls of embassies to carry out politicised propaganda to avoid causing disputes between countries”.
The note does not specify what might constitute “politicised propaganda”, nor communicates further on the matter, said the spokesperson, Nabila Massrali, adding that the EU Delegation in Beijing “has not changed any items displayed at its front wall” either.
Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s government has said it is neutral in Moscow’s 15-month-old invasion of Ukraine but has repeated Russian justifications for the attack, accusing the US and Nato of provoking Moscow.
Beijing was due to send an envoy this week to Ukraine and Russia to discuss a possible “political settlement”, but the effort is thought unlikely to make progress given China’s rhetorical, diplomatic and economic support for Moscow.
In a statement to The Journal, Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs said: “In keeping with Ireland’s position on the illegal invasion of Ukraine, the Embassy of Ireland in Beijing has, continuously since the invasion, incorporated visual reminders of Ireland’s support for Ukraine at the Embassy compound and Embassy events.
“Since March 2022, a notice board on the exterior wall of the Embassy compound has been used for this purpose.
“A poster featuring the Embassy logo and the words “We Stand with Ukraine”, in both English and Chinese, with the Ukrainian colours as background, remains in place on the external wall.”
Contains reporting by the Associated Press
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Good.
@Joseph Devine: And let xi jinping put that in his magic dragon and
smoke it!
I think our government is a little bit obsessed with Ukraine!! You’re in china obey their laws!!!
@Eugene Kelly: Actually not – the embassy is Irish soil.
@Gavin Conran: the embassy is not Irish soil – this is a pervasive, common urban myth. It is still Chinese soil, but they do not enforce their laws and regulations there. The Chinese Embassy in Ireland is likewise still on Irish soil, not Chinese.
@Adam Kelly: I stand corrected
@Eugene Kelly: not how it works….Emabassies a considered sovereign soil of the nation they represent. Until the Chinese tell them pack up and leave, there is not really much they can do.
@Adam Kelly:It is not the soil, just the laws that transfer
So the people obey Irish law and not Chinnese. Same happens here with their embassy.
@Eugene Kelly: The embassy is physically in China, but it is Irish sovereign territory in virtue of its status.
Maybe also hang out a Palestinian flag at the embassy in Israel?
@George Vladisavljevic: No fear of them ever growing a backbone and doing that, they’ll always do the easy mindless stuff.
@George Vladisavljevic: well said !
Good! Propaganda my rear end! There’s more than enough bullyboy tactics from little pootin in Moscow without having to put up with more of it from the People’s “Rep” of China.
@Richard Ahern: would you say little Putin to his face mr keyboard warrior ?
@Ciaran: Provided the little punk were here in the EU or the USA, yes I would. However, in his country, absolutely not! He’s downright dangerous to all people, including his own.
@Ciaran: depends whether he’d be able to stoop low enough to look the little sh*t in the eyes?
@Ciaran: ah poor putrid the 1st offended, el presidente for life
This actions, people having Ukrainian flags on their social media bios and saying slava Ukraine is sure to stop this war.
@James Groden: or just to show support to the non-aggressor.
@James Groden: It’s good to show solidarity with Ukraine. It’s good to acknowledge the death and destruction that Russia has brought to the people of Ukraine. Governments around the world have shown solidarity by supplying humanitarian and lethal aid.
I know when the first of 2 young families arrived where I live, they were very happy to see the little Ukrainian flags and sunflowers we had put up for them.
Maybe someone affected by the war will see these things on social media etc and take some small comfort that the world knows and hasn’t forgotten.
@William slevin: Are you real?
A tacky show of arrogance by our representatives In Beijing. For heavens sake, could we for once, just once, show some discretion and set an independent course for ourselves? This faux showy moral superiority complex will get nowhere with the Chinese. It will just alienate them. Anyone who’s ever been to China knows the local importance of politeness, manners, understatement, and protocol. Have some awareness of the foreign culture you inhabit. Treat your host country with some respect. It may just get you somewhere. It just furthers the point when we have the EU’s chief diplomat Josep Borell going around the world calling the EU ‘a garden’ and the rest of the world ‘a jungle’. Privately, the Chinese must be having a good laugh at these diplomatic amateurs.
@Ordinary Bloke: didnt a chinese official attack democracy protestors outside their embassy in England
@Ordinary Bloke: our ever reliable russian embassy correspondent. Do you ever to a break …even to go to the toilet?
@UK Hurling Bloke: you’ve got a wild imagination m8.
@Ordinary Bloke: Totally agree with you, this article just a distortion of the truth and giving another propaganda to anti-China, or convince more Irish becoming China haters?!
Actually, the China special envoy Li Hui is still in European countries which includes France, Germany, Poland, Ukraine and Russia to make efforts to promote peace talks. Al efforts contrast with the countries ( you know who I talk about ), who keep selling their weapons to Ukraine and pushing Zelenskyy and his people to speed up fighting in this war.
Btw, when Europe involved in the energy crisis last winter, the U.S supposed to sell their gas with huge margin to Europe, but China who offered their gas with very fair rates to Germany.
Who is malicious? Who is a peace lover?
@Ordinary Bloke: This is why people aren’t as fond of the Irish abroad as we think.
I remember once a bunch of snotty Dublin4 student types got arrested for jaywalking in LA, they thought that cop would let them off because they were ooh so cutesy Oirish.
I remember the cop telling them to shut up and if they didn’t pay their fines, they would never get back to the States again.
It seems our “diplomats” in China are at the same type of nonsense.
@Sara Fay: The terms for peace talks have already been laid down, Mr Liu can do as he wants but the terms are made.
They know that but are just playing the game.
@Sara Fay: Whoever or whatever you are, you are not Sara Fay.
@Nick Caffrey: whatever or whoever I am, I am just a human who embraces diversified cultures, a peace lover, an independent thinker, who knows to show admiration to others who are better than me other than vicious barking or imputation. Good luck!
“When in Rome, Do as the Romans Do” might be a very good diplomatic policy to follow.
The Ukrainian flag should be accompanied by a Palestinian flag — both countries are occupied and terrorised.
@William slevin: there, their, they’re….orc
@UK Hurling Bloke: That’s a highly racist term.
Our tuft. We don’t tell China what they can display in Ballsbridge. In fairness it was a request.
Ireland is quickly becoming an embarrassment just like the US.
Stay neutral..
Chinese Government runs a totalitarian, brutal regime. They disgust me and I feel bad for the poor people living there.
@Paulco: Some of my local takeaways aren’t that bad
@Paulco: Brutal regime without gun issue, no homeless on the streets, offering superior public transportation to their people nationwide, no thieves and burglaries but has the most happiest people in the world, etc.Lol.
@Sara Fay: Send us a postcard as you must be rushing to go there!
@Gary Kearney: I will. You will get mind-blowing and shocked at how advanced and modern China is if you can visit there in one day. It’s clean, very safe and they are way ahead of the U.S. or European countries in all aspects, especially infrastructure. Food and culture shock is another level. People are also very friendly over there. Sadly, because we are good buddies with the States, our media would never show the truth.
@Sara Fay: I believe labour law is a little… how shall I put it… flexible?
Proud of this decision by my government! :)
@Ciaran: Why are you taking offence on behalf of Putin?
“Would you say that to his face?” lol
Ffs.
We are a neutral country, why are we taking sides?
If we support Ukraine, why not Palestine?
An utterly inappropriate display by the Irish Embassy in China for a neutral country!
@Nestor: Nonsense.
China will be livid..We will get a pat on the back though
Now the establishment loyalist fascist campaign against me has set up a fake account trying to impersonate me…they really see me as a threat to their controlled narrative…
Good…
Go on spam the comments pretending to be me….I’ve been consistent in my approach on here imitate that…maybe speak the truth and facts you establishment loyalist fascists
Ah yawn, screw the poxy proxy war in Ukraine enriching the military industrial complex(controlled by the USA) fighting down to the last innocent civilian. Let’s talk peace please
@Ciaran: l would and an awful lot more. He is evil personified!!
To the people saying we support Ukraine, why not Palestine?
Personally, I wouldn’t think much of any country cozying up to Russia – particularly in viewof the last 17 or so months. Earlier this month Mahmoud Abbas was talking up strengthening ties with Russia. There has also reportedly been recruitment of Palestinians from Lebanese and Syrian camps to fight against Ukraine – Fatah and PFLP members. Drone specialists apparently.
I can’t post links but this information is easily verified and found online.
They can whistle as far as I’m concerned.
@honey badger: As much as I’m totally against Russia in this evil war, you can see where the Palestinians are coming from. Why should they support the West and Ukraine. The west has done SFA to help them, just stood by while Israel illegaly steals their land.
Always amazed at all the Ukrainian flags around Ireland – yet not one Irish flag to be seen beside them. !!
@honey badger – stuff the Palestinians, Israel is the only democratic country in the middle east.
@ establishment loyalist fascist gavin conran:
Haha your stuck with me haha…I can’t even help it….this is just getting funnier with lads…ya keep getting my accounts banned which in turn means I need to set up another account like right just now I’ve had to set up a new account…then ya whinge ya can’t mute me…stop the campaign against banning my accounts ya know…stop being so insidious….
; )
@William slevin: muhahahahahahaha
@William slevin: @thejournal IP range block maybe? Or a separate instance where all his accounts load into with anyone else banned – let them all annoy each other. Fun times for all
@ establishment loyalist fascist Gavin Conran:
Are you saying you set up this fake account pretending to be me?
@William slevin: Basic reading skills would serve you well here…
@ establishment loyalist fascist Gavin Conran:
Yes or no….its very coincidental that after you whinge you cannot mute me all of a sudden this fake account appears…
Then your also telling thejournal.ie that they should attack my IP…mind you which has happened…were you apart of that….
Waa it you that did this…
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Well gavin are you attacking me on here and IP?
I will not concede to the campaign of attacks against me on here by establishment loyalist fascist wether it’s dogpiling or attacks on my IP…
I will not concede to such malicious and insidious people
@William slevin: Attack your IP? No mate, ban the damn thing and it’s range – that’s what I asked for. If I had already been responsible for it, then why would I now be suggesting it? Food for thought.
@William slevin: And no – I don’t have my very own William Slevin account – I want to see less of you not more. Although seeing how upset its making you does make it somewhat tempting I will admit. But I can’t be bothered, I’ll just continue blocking the lot of you. Bye now (or until your next account anyway)
@ establishment loyalist fascist Gavin Conran:
I consider you as part of the establishment loyalist fascists campaign against me on here and off here….
I know have had attacks on me and my IP ….I’ve had veil threats made against….harassment…my name being user on an account to imitate me to lie about what i would say…now I’m recording users apart of this campaign against me and comments should legal action in the future need to be taken should things escalate towards me further….
It’s one thing to disagree with each even an insult when things get heated….but this campaign by a small cohort on here is starting to get out of hand….threats and attacks against anyone on here have no place….
Your echo chamber is gone your not getting it back…
I will not concede to this aggression against me
Good, f China, and also keep closing their policing structures you find.
The CCP and its followers are only good in a garbage bag.
@Fr Fintan Stack:
What has the EU/ West done for Palestine?
Start with the billions in aid maybe. Eaten bread is soon forgotten.
Abbas in the 14th or 15th year of his 4 year presidential term. I’m sure Putin appreciates the hustle though – he had to pretend to have elections. When I read Abbas’ recent glowing tributes towards Putin it sickened me. I can’t see where they are coming from tbh. Sending men to fight with Russia is inexcusable. As I said they can whistle.
@honey badger: sure that’s the solution to Russia robbing Ukrainian land so. Leave Russia in Eastern Ukraine to run riot, but let the west/eu throw a couple of hundred million for water quality, environmental projects and saleries in Donbas every couple of years. I hope eaten bread won’t be forgotten by Ukraine if the EU/west just do that only and forget about all the other support, or indeed even calling Russia out for their illegal war. Yeah, that’s it. Ukrainian problem sorted.
Well done, bravery and respect , I wish they do same to Tel Aviv embassy showing the Palestinian flag.
@ Brian Buckley: your ignorance knows no bounds!
@establishment loyalist fascist gavin conran:
So you admit you condone of this level of aggression and endorse it….you are even tempted to join this aggression against me….
That’s been noted…
Stuff the commies
@Seamus Balfe sorry I can’t hear you there hiding under your mammy’s knickers.
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