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The Truth About Irish Hip Hop

People used to scoff at Irish rappers, but the hip hop scene in Ireland is booming

A new documentary, The Truth About Irish Hip Hop, tells the story of how Irish rappers are carving out a niche in the music industry.

WHILE SOME MIGHT have scoffed at the idea of an Irish person rapping in the past, the hip hop scene in Ireland is going from strength to strength.

The venue where a new documentary, The Truth About Irish Hip Hop, recently premiered in Dublin was a hive of talent – from young rappers, who were performing their very first gig, to veterans of the scene who have been rapping for well over a decade.

The film made by Gavin Fitzgerald and Mark Hayes took over 18 months to make and involved the pair travelling around Ireland to interview rappers, new and disold.

It touches on issues such as owning our identity, talking about what we know, and asking the big questions about the world.

While most people associate hip hop rap with the US and well-known names like Tupac, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, the Wu-Tang Clan, and A Tribe Called Quest (who happen to be playing Electric Picnic this year), there has been an Irish hub in existence for years, and it’s only getting stronger if this documentary is anything to go by.

Fitzgerald said his movie is about the rise of hip hop in this country and the changing attitudes towards the once-foreign art form. It features those born and bred in Ireland, as well as the many people from other nations and cultures that have come to call Ireland home.


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The Rusangano Family winning the 2016 RTÉ Choice Music Prize Album of the Year has been dubbed a turning point for the hip hop scene in Ireland.

The group (who are also playing at Rankin Wood at Electric Picnic this weekend) is made up of God Knows Jonas, a Zimbabwe native who moved to Shannon 16 years ago, MuRli, who is from Togo but has lived in Limerick since he was a child and a DJ, John Lillis, also known as mynameisjohn, who is from Ennis.

The Limerick-based trio have been making waves in the industry, with rappers on the night of the premiere giving the group a lot of credit for other musicians being taken seriously nowadays.

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The Rusangano Family, who feature in the documentary, explore issues such as identity and belonging, through their music.

While the UK has its own version of hip hop – known as grime – Ireland is searching for its own, explained MathMan, a musician who has been on the scene for many years.

“We have yet to find our own space. But like I said in the doc, we are moving towards that and we will. I think our rich heritage and history of dance music and dance culture in Ireland – and particularly Dublin – will have a massive influence on ‘our’ sound and where we end up,” he said.

(Mango performing at the premiere of The Truth About Irish Hip Hop)

While performers on the night, which was hosted by District Magazine (a publication that highlights cultural issues in Ireland), included artists who have been making a name for themselves, such as Mango, Ger and Linco from 5th Element, Waking Android, Rogan and New Cicero (full disclosure: he’s my brother), one might think this was a new music genre emerging.

(New Cicero  performing at the premiere of The Truth About Irish Hip Hop)

However, plenty of other Irish artists paved the way and contributed to where the scene is today. Names such as Scary Éire, one of the first Irish groups to emerge in 1990, played to packed out venues.

Others who raised the bar of Irish hip hop include Messiah J and ExpertMaverick SabreNucentz, Rob Kelly and Urban Intelligence, who were even recommended by Snoop Dogg to support Nas.

But while a Vice article in 2014 said the suburbs of Dublin witnessed a hip hop explosion in the last 10 years – the landscape has changed somewhat, spreading to all corners of the country, and taking in all multi-cultural aspects of Ireland.

Maverick Sabre / YouTube

“People still try and soak up the American thing, that is a whole other debate, but I love seeing when it is an African Irish thing. It could be Limerick, it could be Dublin, but they just happen to be from Africa and they are living there, and doing what they do and speaking the way they speak… it’s like, no. I am hanging around in Tallaght. I live in Tallaght, my mates are from Tallaght.

“I don’t care what anyone else is doing… I think once you get past the idea of it being a thing of ‘them’ or ‘foreign culture’ – it is just a case of letting it happen organically,” said Ryan Lincoln – ‘Linco’ of the group, Fifth Element.

He said Ireland has reached a point where it is now comfortable with its identity.

“People are more comfortable with themselves and are more comfortable with their identities. I think we are at that point now,” he added.

MathMan said he would like to see Irish rappers carve out their own niche.

We constantly compare ourselves with the UK and what happened with grime, but if you look at hip hop internationally – there is German hip hop, French hip hop, the UK just happened to be this incredible melting pot with all of these sounds and influences that they evolved to grime.
So, we might just evolve to Irish hip hop and a sound that is similar to the homogenised sound that is around the world right now. We may not get our own version of grime here – it is yet to be seen, but I really hope that we do. I really hope we do carve a niche in the music industry with a sound that is completely identifiable to people and the world and I think the most important part of that is our accent.

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While some in the industry disagree, MathMan said the Irish accent is an important aspect of Irish hip hop.

“Our accent is our most unique selling point as Irish people when it comes to hip hop music around the world. Because hip hop is homogenised and the accent is homogenised as well. Our expectation when we hear hip hop artists is to hear an American accent.

“When you hear MC Solaar in France you say, ‘Holy shit that guy is amazing, I just can’t understand what he is saying’, or you hear some guy from Germany who sounds dope – you just can’t understand what he is saying. But you instantly identify with it. That’s German, that’s British, that’s French and we need to own who we are, we need to own our identity, we need to own our voice as Irish people so that we do stand out from the crowd in five, six years, 10 years time. As in – ‘that song is incredible, who’s that by? I don’t know man, but he’s definitely Irish’ – we need to own that,” he said.

Some describe Irish hip hop as the new punk, insofar as perhaps it is a rejection of the mainstream popular music or dance that is taking over Ireland.

Hip hop rappers performing on the premiere night said the expectation is there is no appetite for Irish hip hop, and yet, the audiences keep getting bigger and bigger.

Why?

“Irish people love to support their own. When they see something good that is Irish and that’s their own and it’s representative of them. That’s how much Irish people like to see Irish people do well,” said MathMan.

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    Mute Andro Štruca
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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:31 PM

    Irish Hip Hop ..seriously …. like Zimbabwe skiing team :))

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 4:09 PM

    @Andro Štruca: no it isn’t. Should we only produce trad music? Irish society is now diverse, our music should reflect this.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:54 PM

    Sure why not Irish Hip Hop? It’s when white Irish Hip Hop people act like they are black is where I draw the line.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:06 PM

    @Arnold Lane: what about a black irish rapper acting white? Now thats where i draw the line

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:18 PM

    @Arnold Lane: @cp: doesnt matter if your black or white, if you can fight, prefer to use a gun or a mic, its all about might, the will to drop bombs like bush did on all of allahs sons , the might to fight back when isis blew the shit out of Iraq, The might to forget where we came from the slaying thay we gave son one world that no god can divide we were born to live and where living to.die. does not matter the colour of our skin, if the rings roped up will you jump in, mic on mic hand to hand ye boys want to check yer shit man.so on directional probably sitting at home.watching high school musical. With pimples on yer face go to bed and stop worrying about a persons race. Life is life we all gone live it so grow up n stop acting like children

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:49 PM
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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:46 PM

    Who “scoffed”? “They”? It’s been a good scene always, and recognised as such always.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:55 PM

    @Mike Igoe: Agree! Who ‘scoffed’?

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:56 PM

    @George Hogan: I scoffed a little… sorry guys

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:13 PM

    @Liam flag: Fake Liam!

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:14 PM

    @George Hogan: Nope. I’m the real deal baby

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 8:54 AM

    @Mike Igoe: Not true whatsoever, there has always been plenty of talent but the thought of Irish boys rapping for the most part has seemed ridiculous to the general public!

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:43 PM

    Wud be nice if youd tell us where these gigs happen

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 5:01 AM

    @Boo!: look it up yourself.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 9:12 AM

    @Boo!: I left a reply but it does not seem to have posted, maybe due to Facebook links? Are you in Dublin?

    On 16th September alone Cuttin Heads & Shaool from This Side Up will be putting on Jehst in the Grand Social, Roots Manuva will be in the Sugar Club and Underground Collective will be putting on a load of local talent in a similar vein to the Truth About Irish Hip-Hop gig in the Sound House / Wiley Fox.

    Anybody in Belfast, we are putting on Jehst as the headliner for our third hip-hop showcase of the year in Voodoo.

    Hope that helps

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:57 PM

    Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is. I got more props and stunts than Bruce Willis.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:58 PM

    @Honeybadger197: Shoulda rhymed Willis with Guinness dawg

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:27 PM

    The projects in crumlin is where it all began.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:02 PM

    Check out.. This Side Up.. From Sligo. Da biz.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 12:02 AM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke:

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:06 PM

    Track by Limerick based Hip Hop outfit Bullitz in 2005 Talks about life living around a fueding city. Titled The GraveYard
    https://youtu.be/I1bhqUKrX0g
    Be interesting if other people could post old Irish Hip Hop track people might not have heard

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:39 PM

    But I thought cultural appropriation was supposed to make you a right wing bigot or something. Is the journal promoting racism now?

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:55 PM

    Your brother eh??? Good!! We have some brilliant talent here. I’m delighted the Rusangano family getting a mention as they are brill!!!

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:08 PM

    No matter what, it sounds brutal. Your man from Original Rudeboys with his poxy hammed-up dub accent is like a cheese grater to my eardrums. Absolute cringe worthy every time he opens his mouth.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:21 PM

    @Jimmy Ireland: I would agree with you Jimmy the Irish accent dies not do a rap song justice. But the lyrics from most rappers where grear like of rob kelly redzer would have made it alot farther had they not had big thick irsh accents

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:50 PM

    There’s definitely a lot of good things happening for hip hop here at the mo.
    For what it’s worth people can check out my tracks here..

    https://soundcloud.com/user-18591602
    https://newcicero.bandcamp.com/

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 4:17 PM

    @New Cicero: good production, and great lyrics.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 11:39 PM

    What about RÌRà? One of the best hip hop artists ever to come out of Ireland. Check this out if you want to hear a uniquely Irish sound:https://youtu.be/aCpQXA_x6GE

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:59 PM

    Check out Redzer, pretty good rapper. Terawrizt is another good irish rapper. Raw Soul has great tracks but don’t think he raps any more. Nash is from Cork, the accent is mad but still sounds good. The journal should do a story on irish battle rap, used to be a league, DFI. The battles should still be on YouTube.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:08 PM

    @Drew P. Baulsach: any link to the battles,redzer was whacking it out on the dublin underground about ten years back sound old skin talented but no one want to here d thick irish accents on tracks including my own pity as some good lyricists would have got if they didnt have a big.thick accent

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:23 PM

    @James O Keeffe: yeah true that alright! I always enjoyed it, I can’t relate to the American rappers yacking on about their millions and slangin crack, but I can relate to a song about tallaght or that tune “gerrup outta that”. Here’s a playlist for the DFI Battles: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2A2A34F8BB3E21C0

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:37 PM

    @Drew P. Baulsach: Redzer was whacking it out on the dublin underground scene long time ago good rapper sound old skin and links to those battles be a crack to hear em. Check out these lads down in limerick newly formed really irish hip hop called P19 there mixing trad music with hip hop beats and its sick as fcuk
    https://m.facebook.com/RealIrishhiphop/

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 8:35 AM

    When your having a bad day, just remember that there is someone from your home town still trying to become a rapper…..

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 9:03 AM

    Cheers for the mention for Waking Android, our debut EP can be found here if you wanna check it out

    https://wakingandroid.bandcamp.com/album/adrenochrome

    https://www.facebook.com/WakingAndroid/

    Some great comments from the public here too. The boys mentioned in this article get to go all round the place rocking big crowds doing something they love. I’m sure you have achieved a lot in life though!

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:38 PM

    Bass Odyssey from the 90s should get a mention. Strict then formed Arm The Elderly.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:20 PM

    @Carlin Ite: Yes. They were brilliant live.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 2:56 AM

    Check out Sons Phonetic. Absolutely unbelievable!

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 8:53 PM

    “Used to”

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:44 PM

    https://youtu.be/9QtU7-2JLmw went on to do a sh!t load of work with kids and youth groups. Still producing.

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:46 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: remember him fair play doing work with the youth clubs giving back to the young lads in cork

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 10:45 PM

    Part of the problem is that so much of what’s I hear from Irish/UK/white boy hip hop is derivative of 90s boom bap rap in style and in content.

    The second I hear some angry little scally rap about life growing up on an estate I just switch off. That’s not today their story isn’t valid but it’s boring (at least to me).

    Hip hop nowadays has moved on. Kendrick isn’t rapping about petty street bullshit from his teen years, he’s examining identity and he’s doing it in an exciting, entertaining and thoughtful way.

    UK hip hop lost me for similar reasons in the early 2000s. Grime on the other hand is exciting and is producing some real gold (albeit with a lot of shit also).

    I agree with your man. The exciting things happening in Ireland are coming from the recent immigrants. Their identity in modern Irish society gives them something unique to talk about.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 9:00 AM

    @Rob Hill: Give this a rattle –

    https://wakingandroid.bandcamp.com/album/adrenochrome

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 12:32 AM

    The best to do it here scaryeire. No false American accents. Very reggae influenced.

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    Sep 4th 2017, 11:11 AM

    @Dillon Kalen: Rock on Siobhan stop actin the ámadan. Yep, they were proper good. DJ Mek a brilliant producer and turntablist to boot.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 6:37 AM

    MC Pat Flynn, MC Lynchy?

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 3:41 PM

    I played at the Truth About Irish Hip Hop gig.Great night with loads of talent!Everyone is working hard behind the scenes and everyones getting lyrically and creativally better.And visually everybody’s stepping it up.When the Irish get behind it and accept it the rest of the world will too!
    Anyway here’s my album ‘The War Within’ anyway if you would like to buy a copy all money goes to getting people in Louth Mental Health Counselling!
    https://steoskitz.bandcamp.com/album/the-war-within
    If you could give me a like on Facebook ‘steo skitz’ it would be appreciated too!

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 12:56 AM

    “straight outta Crumlin, a crazy hoor called Michael from a band called paddys with pints…”

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    Sep 2nd 2017, 9:45 PM

    @Andro Štruca: shut your hole you gome and where is it you call home. Andros your man tho knows irish hip hop and hes probably from orlando.your not irish either bro probably tossing at home to dido, its life tho people hating on talent divides those , fakes who pose no threat hiding behind there iphone what you know about sytle bro racism is dead so shut you pie hole before you die slow guiltones chopped heads but sure what do I know mano y mano keep your lips sealed about rugsano you jealous little a hole. The Irish like us does not matter where they came from not shut your mouth up because I said so.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 11:42 PM

    I’m not a fan of hip hop/rap etc… but look to literary history.
    Rap is about expressing oneself with words.
    How many Irish are counted around the finest English-language wordsmiths ever too have lived?

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 4:29 PM

    No mention of Rejjie Snow?!

    A bizarre omission.

    No disrespect to the acts mentioned in the article – all credit to them – but a 30-second review of YouTube views shows that Rejjie Snow’s (literally) ten times bigger than most of them. And brilliant with it.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 12:58 AM

    I find the white Irish rappers are much better than the Africans which I thought was very interesting.

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 6:29 AM

    @Rex Facer: I hear you’re a racist now Father…

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 12:56 PM

    Messiah J and the expert there’s a blast from the past, Jazz FM!

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 1:37 PM

    Everyone please check out Skripteh’s new EP at http://www.skripteh.bandcamp.com you won’t be disappointed!! He is a 16yo Irish hip hop artist!

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    Sep 3rd 2017, 5:37 AM

    We you to ask for a. “Recitation,”I’d say rapping was going on since mankind got a communal fire going.

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    Sep 4th 2017, 12:09 AM

    @Zozzy Zozimus: Agreed. Surprised to see his admission, as he is the most renowned Irish rapper in the US and UK.

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