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From Monday, the morning Connolly route services will revert to the pre-26 August service patterns. Irish Rail said that this will “rebalance the timetable” while accommodating improved frequency on a number of Intercity routes, including the Dublin to Belfast route.
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“As well as improving punctuality for Commuter services, this will enable a key gap in the Northern Commuter morning service to be reduced,” Iarnród Éireann said, highlighting additional departure times from Drogheda.
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@Ben Moylan: Ben, I’m assuming you have access to Google as you are commenting on an internet news site, simply type ‘what is the salary of an Irish soldier’ into Google. The first 6 links given are all different sites directly answering your query.
So please, stop trying to imply some sort of conspiracy or half truth, and stop being so lazy, Irish soldiers deserve more than that for the security they provide
@Vocal Outrage: The author of this specifc article is 100 percent right. We should pay our defense forces a wage that would see them stay in the services. But he has almost zero credibility, as he was suggesting a couple of months ago that we should prioritize spending on fighter jets and joining NATO or PESCO. I wish he would state what he thinks is more important.. spending tax payers money to keep the members we have in the defense forces or paying 100s of millions, even billions to join NATO or a NATO aligned union that starts new wars every 2 to 3 years. I know where my priorities would be.
@Cal Mooney: he didnt suggest joining NATO, which would be unconstitutional so a referendum would have to decide for Ireland to join, so can’t see that happening. Yiu should probably also read up on PESCO rather than believing the hype. Irelands involvement is in training for peacekeeping and its 2nd project maritime situational awareness for security and search and rescue can hardly be considered front line war fighting, or anywhere near. Also unlikely to be billions for Ireland as total budget is €2billion in matches funding for ALL EU states
@Vocal Outrage: Pretty sure your numbers are wrong. They want a 13 billion euro budget, which would require a massive increase in our current spending and it wouldnt be on soldiers salaries. The PESCO military would take direction from the biggest nations which are NATO members.
@Paul Whelan: They look similar to starting salaries for civil servants, which is fine. However not good enough for people who out their lives on the line. Should be same as Gardaí at least.
@Ben Moylan: Rubbish! The reason the Defence Forces is so poorly treated is that they have right to strike. .the ultimate weapon and the only one to concentrate the mind of the Government. . Until they get that right they will be unfairly treated by Government.
@Skimothy: it’s a union style article. You’ll find similar tactics in both teacher and guard payment articles to not have one single monthly paycheck aisle to compare with other workers. Ps: I also think they should merge with gardai, and distribute the salary pool equally – a small hit for one defence force to the benefit of another.
There’s a big difference between rates of pay and actual pay when all allowances etc are factored it. It was the same when the Gardai were looking for extra money. Let’s see some ttansparency and real examples.
@Jumperoo: A private gets about 500 euro a week after 10 years service but there may be allowances on top of that. Its laughable, its a disgrace. A chaplain on the other hand gets about 60k a year. Who makes this crazy stuff up.
@Anthony: I did. But as has been pointed out above, that doesn’t change the fact that if you’re going to write and/or publish an article on something like this, you should have the most important information in it. It shouldn’t be up to the reader to go searching for that information somewhere else.
Many countries don’t pay their soldiers a great wage . Lower ranks wages are really average. The difference is they look after them better . They provide housing for no more then a few hundred pounds a month . Free health and dental . They get rail cards and many other benefits . A serving soldiers ID card or veterans card when he leaves the services gets discounts in most of the high street shops and restaurants. The Brits give their service personal a 20 grand interest free loan to pay towards a deposit on their first home . They get priority treatment on the NHS . Why pay 60 grand on recruiting training and equipping a soldier that will be gone in 5 yrs . You could build a house for that on camp for soldiers and their families and rent it to a soldier for 300 euro a month .
@John Smith: Soldiers pay is unlivable. Factory workers earn more, why bother going through with the tough training when you can work in a factory with zero training or education and have more money. The army needs to be made more attractive and then it’s more likely to keep recruits long term.
@Shane Barry: why do we even need one? Sending irish men and women off to war zones to keep the peace after our buddies East and West of us armed the people the Irish and smaller nations are contracted to protect.
@Hardly Normal:At home the Irish military is like the states home insurance policy. In the event of natural disaster, severe weather events, terrorist events it is the military who respond. You dont ever want to use your home insurance, but it’s nice to know that if your home is burgled your insurance will assist in replacing items.
In some cases you may not even see the security our military provide, but they secure high security prisons, provide convoy escort of criminals to and from court cases, defuse explosives, both civil war and criminal, secure cash escorts to allow for cash in ATMs, provide high level security for state events, save lives at sea, provide air ambulances, acts as diplomats for the state overseas, and ultimately secure our borders.
That’s why we need a military.
why does an army have to carry prisoners or be human shields for banks money? Why cant the hse could look after an air ambulance. Surely prison guards should be capable of that and leave the banks sort their own security.
A specialised bomb squad could easily be integrated into the guards.
I’m in favour of a part time national guard for weather emergencies or what ever.
I think I’ve just picked apart your reasons for having an army, have I missed any?
I honestly think the army is a waste of money and we could have similar but better resources if money was diverted else where and the Irish army decommissioned.The guards need a total overhaul as well. How many army members and guards get a full wage and pension for playing a musical instrument in their bands? All I see is wastefulness..
@Hardly Normal: all the public services you mentioned above have employees who have the right to strike. Imagine if striked who would fill their place. That’s why as a nation we need a last line of defence. That’s why they are our insurance. That’s why we are attractive to big corporations. That’s how we borrow money from other countries.
@Hardly Normal: So if I get this right, you would like to privatise all the services you mentioned? What an ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE idea. You do know how privatisation ends up don’t you. It ends up costing you, me and the public more in the long run.
The private companies can strike, withhold services and hike up the price at will. How much do you think it costs to do air ambulance missions, bomb disposal or fishery patrols for example?
Your understanding of aid to the Civil Power is not what it should be unfortunately.
Like it or not, the Defence Forces will provide all the services you mentioned, retain the infrastructure, equipment and knowledge for the betterment of the Nation rather than watching the bottom line and waltzing off into the sunset when conditions don’t appeal anymore.
@Hardly Normal: The reason that Prison Officers require Armed Escorts from the Gardai and Army is because they themselves are an “Unarmed” Service. As such while transporting Supected and Convicted Terrorists and Gang Associated Criminals to and from Court or Hospital who would be capable of organising armed assistance to escape it is necessary to have an Armed Escort. As for Banks you you be in favour of Private Security companies having Armed Security Officers? Because transporting large amounts of cash would be very tempting targets for those I mentioned above. And unless you wish that the entire Garda Force is armed they too require Army assistance while carrying out Anti Terrorist operations as there are not enough Armed Gardai to go around.
as a former member of defense forces 18 years since I left the situation has not improved regarding pay only seems to have get worse the defense force moulded me into a man at 17th and gave me life skills that I still use to this day ,i am deeply saddened when i read the article above ,sad times indeed and as a nation we should be ashamed
@Paul: Probably one of the only armies in the world were is just about impossible to get injured or killed. If there was a chance of either of these then yes pay them more, otherwise its just a keep fit job and sitting manning some check point with the UN lets be honest here.
@Peter Hughes: To date 86 Irish Military Personnel have been killed on active duty abroad and that is not including those wounded. The main reason that that number is not substantially higher is down to the professionalism and training of those tasked with those duties. Irish Troops are renowned across the world’s military, as being the best at Peace Keeping duties in conflict zones. Even to the point that the Irish Military train other countries troops in the role.
@Peter Hughes: Okay Peter let’s be honest. Yesterday marked the 20th anniversary of a guy called Pte Billy kedian. Pte kedian was killed by isreali motor rounds that pounded an Irish UN post close to the leb/isr border.
So the fact that you make such a disrespectful statement, only leads to one conclusion here. You share the ignorance of the Dept of Defence of which I’m sure are blissfully unaware of Pte kedians anniversary.
RIP Pte Billy kedian.
@Peter Hughes: tell that to the widows and families of defence personnel that have died whilst on service. Your disrespectful comment is beyond belief!
Must be awkward when minister kehoe is attending ceremonies and then the defence force people say he’s out of his depth and incompetent. But then i’m sure he gets great comfort at the end of each month when he gets his exorbitant political money, which could be 10 times what the defence forces people get.
@Adolf Galland: it’s OK ACCAS & other groups have already launched Kehoes de-election campaign. He’ll not be looking forward to Leo’s “legitimacy” ambitions with a GE.
They have systematically downgraded the military for decades. There is now no dedicated Department of Defence or Minister but The Taoiseach is nominal minister.
@Dorothy: what are we defending against? The navy is grand, stops the illegal fishing and the odd drugs bust. I hate the fact they’ve to go to the mediterranian, fishing people out. The army are only ever mobilised when there’s a bit of bad weather. Wouldn’t a part time national guard be a better option?
@Hardly Normal: without a functioning army, the state is open to being taken over by a handful of guys with assault rifles. Who would stop them, the Guards? A republic needs to capable of defending itself. The precise application of industrial scale violence requires training and expertise that cannot be whistled up only when threats present themselves. Nobody likes paying for car insurance, but we understand it is a prudent and necessary precaution. The defence forces are insurance for the continuance of our democratic way of life.
@Hardly Normal: you lack real knowledge of how often our military is deployed.
Cash escorts, prisoner escorts, portlaoise prison, daily security, bomb disposal, fishing and drug enforcement and then there was the many many years, a border to try and control. Now they do un duty and they do it well.
@Hardly Normal: As I explained above The Irish Prison Service is an “Unarmed” Service that would have to change. You would have to allow Armed Private Security Companies to transport Cash currently escorted by the Gardai and Army, thus giving them the legal authority to use “Lethal Force”. And UN duty actively and positively promotes Irelands reputation around the world. And I am sure you know about the Army assisting Gardai in Anti Terrorist Operations around the country.
@Hardly Normal: unfortunately it is your approach that is the very reason why the government get away with treating our military so bad. Your not commenting on the problem, you are the problem. I hope you sleep well at night knowing thst your attitude results in men and women who are literally prepared to lay down their lives for your protection have to survive on family income supplements
@Vocal Outrage: protecting me from what? I sleep very well at night because we live in a civilised part of the world and we have no resources the usa, Russia China or anyone else wants. Its a waste of money the way it is.
@Hardly Normal: so your suggestion is to disband the military and instead
A, arm the Gardai
B, seem the prison service
C, allow private security to become armed
D, train and create s bomb squad in the Gardai
E, create a reserve force of 9000 minimum and have them on active duty
Wow, you should run for election with that logic!
Oh and just because your ignorant of what does on daily within the states security services, doesn’t mean it’s not happening. This island had one of the largest terrorist groups for almost 100 years and is an island between South America and Europe.
Just confirms what I suspected, we actually have better than we deserve
@Hardly Normal: Defence, look up what it actually entails in regards to a nation. What is a national guard? Something you made up to sound clever. Well you certainly have shown that you have not got a clue. According to you UN duty is a joke. Are you for real? How would you know? Give me an actual example and explain what you mean. You can find many examples of successful UN missions.
You don’t know what happened after the first 24/7 Alliance public meeting which I attended with several other PDFORRA regional reps and the President and General Secretary of the Association. The next day the Defence Forces management paraded the leadership of PDFORRA and told them that by taking part in the 24/7 Alliance they would be in breach of the specific Defence Forces regulations regarding political activism. To continue to do so would lead to the disbanding of our association, and they would be charged and possibly Court Martialed . This is a perfect example of how the Dept of Defence can keep the voices of the serving members quite, and thereby ignore any complaints raised by Vetrans or WPDF.
There have been several questions in the Dail shrugged off by the Muppet Kehoe, by saying nobody told him there is a problem. Easy to say when nobody can speak out about the problems until we retire, at which point it gets ignored as the ramblings of bitter old Veterans.
Just be glad the largest armed organization in the state is loyal to the people they serve, even in the face of public indifference from an uninformed and uncaring populace.
@Brian Curran: Well said. The keyboard warriors on here haven’t a clue. Military Law means do what you are told or else. Having no voice is why the AC scandal happened too. No civvy organisation with full representation & the right to strike would put up with such conditions…good enough for soldiers eh?
Our economy’s growth is heavily dependent on corporation tax. We downgrade our Defence we loose our insurance. Every cent this country has borrowed is on the back if our defence system. We can’t downgrade or get rid. If we did say goodbye to most international companies here. No more borrowing money. Heck say good bye to having fishfingers for your tea, no naval or air corps no fish in our waters.
Reduce the size of Defence Forces by 20%. They would not be missed. Then grant the remaining soldiers an increase of pay based on the savings made. This is what is called productivity and this solves the low pay problem.
@Irish big fellow: They already did the reduction in numbers doubling the workload of remaining personnel. Pay increase never happened as barrack were sold off for tens of millions. DoD are handing back unspent €20 million from DF budget per annum to the exchequer as the service disintegrates.
He talks at the start about a crisis regarding ethics and morality in the governance of the country and says there is one organisation that can stand over it’s record: The Irish Defence Forces. But is he not the same Tom Clonan that featured in a major whistleblowing scandal in the army relating to bullying of female recruits and the subsequent shafting of the whistleblower (himself) by senior officers? Short memory Tom?
His story is featured here in a great RTE series https://player.fm/series/rte-whistleblowers/whistleblowers-2nd-september-2007
(Other episodes include Frank Serpico, Colin Wallace, Daniel Ellsberg, etc. Good series.)
While I agree they deserve better pay, they can only look at themselves and in particular pdfora as the reason why they get shafted.
Under the 24/7 alliance all emergency staff would stand as one during pay talks. The army then left without any warning and effectively sided with the government by stating they would not strike and if ordered, would man prisons, Garda stations and fire trucks.
This was a backstabbing by the military on their supposed allies. So, not only is it on their own hands that they fund themselves here but it also proves that towing the party line only gets you shafted.
That’s why we have courts outside of Ireland which can make the government actually respect the constitutional rights of police and soldiers.
If you don’t want to be treated like a slave, don’t act like one. Sorry but that’s the reality, you left 24/7 alliance and burnt the bridges. Now your out on your own as the other parties won’t include you in negotiations anymore. And pdfora have more power than the gra but manage to make them look good somehow.
@James Stephens: James you obviously do not know what your talking about. The Defence Act separates soldiers from civil law, they only have such access as is granted by the State. These are allowed so normal living is maintained and can be pulled at any time, (State of emergency, blue alert etc) or even not granted at all (e.g. Working time directive).
Members understand this and accept this provision. The state , especially in the dept of finance, understands this and abuse it.
Something like the 24/7 alliance could never be an option for any army anywhere, there is no right of association, and can never be, (other than what is granted and is removable). So, no council, committee, party or cooperative arrangement can have any sway over a nations military.
@Sega Yolo: again, I understand the law perfectly well and I understand it’s place.
The Constitution and eu can and does overrule national law.
I suggest you educate yourself, the working time act does now apply to the military, thanks to the eu. Had dinner for about 4 years now. There’s exemptions of course as there needs to be but the main aspects apply.
Not that it will ever happen, but I also happen to agree with the assertion of why do we need an army. If we were ever invaded, we would need the Brits to come and bail us out.
Also: 1) how did you calculate the annual discharge rate? 2) What is the average age of the Irish defence personnel? 3) What is the educational profile of discharged staff? My point is that the specifics have to be examined.
@Sega Yolo: I have read the UL studies. The article could benefit from having some more details or at least include references & direct links to the studies. Not easy to find them.
The army members get a pension after 20 years service,free training, free education for officers but what do the 9000 do everyday
Some few hundred go on holidays to Lebanon and bring home cheap cars
Their advocates are PDFORA , they want Td’s and the media
Nobody forces them to join the army but their is battle royal every year to get into the cadets
They are like all public servants well looked after!
Peter
@Kyriakos I. Kourousis, PhD: Unfortunately Mr Clunan Dr in his profession personally knows too well from military time it is professional suicide to do hard hitting figure based factual articles.
Media in Ireland look for soft human element as told not facts and figures not much allowed plus brings too much hassle and pressure.
As Sgt rtd Mr Maurice McCabe, Mr Sugerman, Mr Clunan know too well hard hitting truthful facts in Ireland go down very badly actually leads to stopping of telling any truth in reality plus personal attacks on own integrity for telling the truth NO matter how much can factually back it up.
My buddies son is a sharp shooter and he’s on good money but he’s constantly electing himself for tasks and missions or whatever. He loves it. But on the other hand I know another guy who’s on small money but he does f all and he’s home at two everyday. He’s even said he’s bored up there. I don’t care about they’re wages to be honest. Public sector haven’t a clue. I’ve be on the tools since I left school and struggle to bring home €1k a week before tax and costs of running a business then I find out a county council labourer job today is offering €550 a week to be paid from the neck down. Boils my pee but I just get on with. This is my career. I knew what I was getting into when I started
Pay is crap, plenty of jobs out there but yet more & more still join the defence gorces and then whinge about the pay! Wouldn’t you think they would be smart enough to look at this before they signed up!
I served for 35 Years and retired in 2016. This is a country full of hand wringers with a distain for anything military. We just voted in a Euro sceptic Luke Ming on the basis that he can role a good spliff and he didn’t want the EU have the capacity to defend itself, oh ye and also we should dig up air bogs.
Scandalous situation, hence the percentage of personnel leaving. If you want to hang on to your well trained staff, you look after them better. Simple!
The current economic boom added to low pay and lack of respect for the military staff will make the exodus only worse.
My buddies son is a sharp shooter and he’s on good money but he’s constantly electing himself for tasks and missions or whatever. He loves it. But on the other hand I know another guy who’s on small money but he does f all and he’s home at two everyday. He’s even said he’s bored up there. I don’t care about they’re wages to be honest. Public sector haven’t a clue. I’ve be on the tools since I left school and struggle to bring home €1k a week before tax and costs of running a business then I find out a county council labourer job today is offering €550 a week to be paid from the neck down. Boils my piss but I just get on with. This is my career. I knew what I was getting into when I started
All of this is absolutely true though the hierarchy’s lack of morale courage is absolutely apparent as Comdt Dr Cathal Berry out tell the truth then doesn’t sit with RACO reps at Committee in case they ask him questions that show the disconnection of reality on ground and military & Civil Offices in DOD Newbridge. Where Dr’s are told give out Lariam only for missions in malaria countries as mission comes first not health of soldiers Col Kerr’s own directional after Defence Forces Dr’s about Lariam only policy as Lariam now unlicensed here leaves Dr’s personally responsible for prescribing. Where questions were not asked about Medical care of Soldiers at all ??? Where is RACO’s stance on Lariam Only Policy as per DMC Instructions for each mission. Are Officers given a choice of medication or not since end of 2005 while other ranks are not ??? I know at least three men sitting in that room know the answers. Yet shamefully the Foreign Affairs, Trade and Defence Committee stands amongst World’s Democracies has not publicly asked these questions nor has Ireland equivalent to a Surgeon General and his Senior had to answer these questions. Nothing has changed in most Senior staff attestation of reality since former Capt Clunans time from officers and other on ground plus Civil Servants even more out of touch reality. Shameful amongst World’s media while saying fighting for or baring full truth for Defence Forces
survival it desperately needs bourne out for good of state and Defence Forces. State Institutions, Politicians and media have not learnt from historical avoidance of truths and dealing with upfront properly. Ireland can never move on past as keep avoiding truths and commiting inconceivable crimes against own most loyal not have honesty or morale courage to admit failures is doomed to self-destruction. This is poor avoidance of asking searching questions for real answers allows allows in sundry to say ‘we respect Soldiers for week or two’ then nothing done everyone back in normal jobs few weeks nothing substantial done except well choreographed media run of platitudes and ‘tut,tuts’. Look around the world ask why are we not asking questions.
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Reports can be generated based on the combination of data sets (like user profiles, statistics, market research, analytics data) regarding your interactions and those of other users with advertising or (non-advertising) content to identify common characteristics (for instance, to determine which target audiences are more receptive to an ad campaign or to certain contents).
Develop and improve services 79 partners can use this purpose
Information about your activity on this service, such as your interaction with ads or content, can be very helpful to improve products and services and to build new products and services based on user interactions, the type of audience, etc. This specific purpose does not include the development or improvement of user profiles and identifiers.
Use limited data to select content 37 partners can use this purpose
Content presented to you on this service can be based on limited data, such as the website or app you are using, your non-precise location, your device type, or which content you are (or have been) interacting with (for example, to limit the number of times a video or an article is presented to you).
Use precise geolocation data 42 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, your precise location (within a radius of less than 500 metres) may be used in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Actively scan device characteristics for identification 24 partners can use this special feature
With your acceptance, certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Ensure security, prevent and detect fraud, and fix errors 82 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Your data can be used to monitor for and prevent unusual and possibly fraudulent activity (for example, regarding advertising, ad clicks by bots), and ensure systems and processes work properly and securely. It can also be used to correct any problems you, the publisher or the advertiser may encounter in the delivery of content and ads and in your interaction with them.
Deliver and present advertising and content 92 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 65 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 48 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 81 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 60 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
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