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LAST UPDATE | 12 Jul 2018
IRISH WATER HAS warned that water restrictions in the Greater Dublin Area are “likely to begin early next week”.
The water utility said night time water restrictions may be needed to avoid widespread outages in the autumn and that a final decision is expected tomorrow.
A national hosepipe ban remains in place and Irish Water says there are already over 20 schemes across the country on restrictions.
A spokesperson for Irish Water told TheJournal.ie that, “The times have yet to be determined but the initial restriction could be midnight to 5am but that is still to be confirmed.”
In a statement released this afternoon, the utility said: “Irish Water and the local authorities are working through over 800 district meter areas to establish where water supplies can be restricted and for how long while minimizing the impact to homes and businesses.”
Irish Water Engineer and Corporate Affairs Manager, Kate Gannon said, “Introducing restrictions was an option that Irish Water hoped could be avoided because of the inevitable impact on homes and businesses.
We are monitoring the situation, but the weather is not changing, the rain is not coming. Something else has to be done to protect water supply and avoid widespread outages in the autumn.
“A final decision will be taken tomorrow when more detail will be issued regarding the timings and the affected areas.”
Speaking in the Dáil this afternoon, Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government Eoghan Murphy said there is an urgent need for water conservation.
He said the overriding concern would be for the future availability of drinking water.
The crisis is not over, it’s far from over, although there will be rain this weekend it won’t be anywhere close to what we need.
He said we need three weeks of rain to restore cuurent supplies.
He added that if we don’t see enough rain by August, daytime water restrictions could need to be put in place.
It’s not just for July and August we need to plan but for September and October also.
However he added that water consumption has stabilised and he thanked the public for their cooperation.
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It might be time to explore building more or bigger reservoirs. It would probably reduce the amount of flooding in winter and avoid restrictions on the off chance we get 4 or 5 weeks of good weather.
@Mark Malone: Cant fill a small one with no rain let alone a big one.
@Mark Malone: They could have done so with the money and time they wasted on meters, AND fixed many of the major leaking pipes.
Its not about our supply, its about privatisation
@⚡ Seánie ⚡: I think the idea is it fills through the course of the other 11 months of the year.
@⚡ Seánie ⚡: Plenty of rain and snow earlier in the year, that would have filled the reservoirs nicely.
@Mark Malone: Do you mean like the cone shaped water tower near the airport which can be seen from the M50, cost 3 million to build and leaks like a sieve.
@Mark Malone: Irish water are already in the process of laying pipes from the river Shannon to Dublin.
@Change Everything: great article on broadsheet about the IW conjob https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/07/12/truth-comes-dropping-slow/
@Tom Harpur: Much better to build a new reservoir. We don’t need to run a pipe from the Shannon. We get huge amounts of rain most of the year, a new reservoir is a no-brainer. The existing reservoirs are not enough for current populations and infrastructure in Dublin. Expansion within the greater Dublin area will only continue in the future so water storage needs to be addressed.
The Quango blame over consumption by people when it is they who through not fixing the leaks in the mains are the biggest wasters of water. Meters were their main priority when they were freely given the water infrastructure by the councils because billing people was more important than firstly fixing the pipes. This article in today’s IT clearly states what went wrong and why and its nothing to do with paddling pools or garden hoses.
@Mark Malone: might be time to explore electing people that know how to run businesses instead of the useless gombeens politicians we have at the moment
@Kevin Moylan: The Shannon pipe plan seems very dubious to me, its not the answer and its certainly not the cheapest option. I wonder who will be contracted to build this proposed pipe ? Will it be the cheapest bidder, will it be someone will political connections? Will it be built properly to the highest standards unlike the housing estate builds in the noughties? One things for sure, it will involve brown envelopes.
@Frank Cauldhame: Exactly .. more of the same..
http://novaramedia.com/2014/11/19/an-unmitigated-disaster-8-reasons-its-kicking-off-in-ireland/
@Irish Bob: Thanks for the link, it says it all really. I would urge everyone to read it ;-)
@⚡ Seánie ⚡: We can fill them ever notice the wet stuff falling from the sky?
@Tom Harpur: No there not.
@Change Everything: No, they couldn’t. It’s going to cost billions to fix the water infrastructure in this country. That cost is going to have borne, yet again, through taxes. Those who have paid little to no tax in their lives will once again get off scot free.
@Tommy Roche: According to NERI Research 2016 “Most people contribute the majority of the tax they pay via the indirect tax system”…”it is a taxation system rather than an income tax system”!
From 2000-2013 over €19.61B spent on Capex&Opex re water services and infrastructure!
@Mark Malone: have a look at what is planned to increase capacity already.
https://www.water.ie/projects-plans/our-projects/
Clean drinking water needs to be sourced, stored, treated, stored (again) and finally supplied to end users. All parts of that puzzle need to have increased capacity in order to get us through a ’1 in 100 year’ drought. It will cost money to build and also to maintain. As an alternative, as an alternative, it could be argued that a few weeks of water restrictions is a price worth paying because of how infrequent these droughts really are in Ireland.
@Tommy Roche: like Apple??
@Tim Pot: According to Maynooth University Research’Analysis of historical records shows Ireland is prone to drought”:20/6/16 eg:1800′s,1820′s,1850′s,1880′s,1920′s,1930′s,1950′s,1970′s& 1990′s!
Now those are the facts!!
pictures all over facebook taken by people these last few weeks of reservoirs almost full to the brim with water.
you are all being lied to to try get water charges back on the table, dont fall for it
@We Love Katamari: “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet” ~ Abraham Lincoln.
@We Love Katamari: strange that. I physically looked at 2 reservoirs and they are very low. Of course, reality no longer matters. If we have a photo in the last 5 years in Winter showing a reservoir as full, then it must be full after a Summer drought.
@We Love Katamari: How many days supply in 1 reservoir?
@We Love Katamari: I went up to my local reservoir here in Wexford and The reservoir is incredibly low probably the lowest I’ve seen it in years.
@We Love Katamari: you’re the only one lying here. Reservoirs are low.
@Tim Murray: are they? here’s vartry a few days ago
http://www.facebook.com/maurice.dodd.9/posts/10211353471145285
so watch who yer calling a liar.
@We Love Katamari: you might not be intentionally lying, but you are incorrect.
Not that it is “proof” but here is something else from the internet which indicates you are incorrect.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ccurley0Carol/status/1016655115292413952
@Noel Tate: Noel these 2 pictures are taking from 2 completely different angles so I don’t think this is proof. If anything if you look at the sign in the water the depth looks the same.
@Noel Tate: look at the signpole in both shots, the waters at around the same height you clod!
@We Love Katamari: Yea the one in Sandyford has never been as high and seen with my own eyes, but would it be like that without hosepipe ban ? id rather have water to drink and wash in
@We Love Katamari: there may be water in the reservoirs but the country is using what is needed for August and September as there has been no rain.
@We Love Katamari: ‘While Irish Water agrees that the water infrastructure needs upgrading in general, reference to leakage was notably absent from its recent statements. More than 600 million litres of water were “being used” in Dublin, it said. “Being used” were its exact words. No acknowledgement that only about 300 million litres were “being used” in the true sense – the other 300 were “being wasted”, mostly by Irish Water itself.’
@B9xiRspG: Dont believe Abraham Lincoln he was an inveterate teller of untruths and a tree terrorist
@Paul Laing: I can give anybody that pms me a pic of VARTRY RESEVOIR taken by myself and it’s absolutely full to the brim
Wake up ffs
Are you forgetting the snow we had
@Maurice Dodd: Vartry reservoir holds about 16billion litres of water, you do the maths on how many days of using 600million litres a day makes that last. Looking at it saying it’s full is akin to saying global warming is a conspiracy because you have to wear a jacket. It hasn’t rained in about 7 weeks. And in the meantime the sun has been beaming down. Do you honestly think we are ok for water?
Just fix the fkkn pipes
@Leo Massey: and install a meter……that ensures we never have gas and electricity shortages….
@Brian Deane: People like you are the brainwashed masses easly led by the FG PR machine .. As stated by FGer on the Tonight Show, even if meetres were in every house and everyone was paying per use we would still have the same issue you numpty. 7% of water leaks in houses, they know all about the other leaks and since 2011 have chose to do f all about them
Gas and Electricity have noting to do with Water ..
Did u go to school/college , have you used the Health Service .. did you pay for your use …
Only way id agree to pay per use for water is when we pay per use for everything ..
Surely a modern country that boasts about its great economy and the fastest growing econoomy can provide 3 basic services to its citizens as in Water, Health and Eduaction
@Brian Deane: How does a meter ensure we will never have water shortages, that’s nonsense. Half of all our water is leaking from the mains, not from peoples houses.
@Brian Deane: tell us more about these magic meters! Lol!!
@Irish Bob: You were doing fine till you mentioned education and health. I paid to go to college and I pay every time I visit my doctor or dentist and I even paid for my last MRI scan!
@sean o’dhubhghaill: I paid for myself in college too, worked most evenings and every weekend since inter cert to pay for it, father was self employed so no help for me at the time, plus i pay for the doctor and i pay for my water as I have a well.
Point being is that most of these people who bang on about meters, pay per use, call the anti Irish Water people free-loaders or the pay nothing brigade are mostly all wealthy and have benefited from tax funded education.
Water should be one of the 3 basic services any modern ethical country should provide to its citizens in my opinion.
In theory I would agree on the pay as you use model for most things but not those 3 .. They could privatize the rest as far as I am concerned.
@Leo Massey: Good man Leo. It’s dead simple. Just dig up the entire city for a few years, and tell all the multinationals were closed until the work is complete.
@Irish Bob: You know, Irish Bob, for the 1st time ever I think I have seen a comment on The Journal that not only do I admire but with which I totally agree!
From Irish Water: “We are monitoring the situation, but the weather is not changing, the rain is not coming. Something else has to be done to protect water supply and avoid widespread outages in the autumn.”
Translation: “Irish Water depends on constant torrential rain and bog like conditions all year round to make up for the fact that we are not doing our job. This first decent summer in years, is really fecking things up for us.”
What a pack of spanners.
@Ron O’Keefe: The water protesters?
Ironic to think that if IW had met it`s own leakage targets, there would be no need for restrictions
Between 2011 and 2021 it was meant to reduce network leakage from 205 to 166 million litres. Two-thirds of the way through that window, network leakage is now higher than it was in the first place at 207 million litres.
Here is a good article on it
@Pixie McMullen: And if IW are saying we are using 600 million litres of water a day, we are not, we are using 300 million litres of water, the other 50% is flooding out through their leaks which they aren`t concentrating on
@Pixie McMullen: Ironically the Expert Commission on Water & Committee on Future Funding of Water heard that Irish households use less water than many other countries including UK!It was IW themselves that presented that evidence!
@Nuala Mc Namara: True Nuala, and on top of that, IW`s stated target for replacing pipes is 1%PER Annum, that means the last pipes go in a 100 years from now.
Our water has been already done in a sneaky deal with the Troika, the banks, those in charge , and those who have come after them.There is nothing surer.
All the finger pointing at the householder by RTE, IW and the media, about being responsible and conserving doesn`t cover up the fact they are wasting the same amount as we use.
If IW had spent the 2bn on fixing the pipes and not useless water meters there wouldn’t be a problem.
What difference will turning off water between midnight and five am make,seriously, who uses water in the small hours and any way once water is restored then all the washing machines, dishwashers, showers etc are in full flow, this tactic is senseless.
@Honeybee: The water won’t be running through the pipes and out the cracks in the system
@Pauliebhoy: Oh , so the focus will shift from the householder back to the incompetence of IW and their failure to fix water leaks instead of wasting our money on their vanity projects , pity of it all is that the poor householder suffers no matter what.
@Honeybee: you’d be surprised who uses water between 11pm and 5am people get up to use the toilet or can’t sleep to get a drink or put on a wash I myself start work at 4am so I have breakfast drink water wash my bowl etc and that’s just me there’s 20 working where I work so there routines would be similar there’s also factories operating and hospitals
@Tom Harpur: But Tom, if the water is turned off at midnight then your water tank should be full, (unless you are filling that Lidl swimming pool in the dark), in which case, you will have water for the necessary functions, I thought that hospitals are exempt from service cut offs but they do have independent water storage tanks.
@Honeybee: if 50% of water is leaking through the pipes then turning waterboff between midnight and 5 am is beneficial in fact it should save nearly 1/8 of total water usage per day
How about they fix the water leaks? There’s an idea rather than any more panic banning of usage. This is all about convincing the public that water is a rare and, most importantly, valuable resource. This is all about Irish water justifying their own existence and the bonuses that they’ll be paid once this is over. People. Get out there, look at the reservoirs, they aren’t as empty as they say. Remember three months ago all along the Shannon was flooded. I haven’t noticed any problems with water where I am in the sunny south east!
@Colm O’Leary: so it’s been raining down there for the past 7 weeks has it? What resovoir are you looking at? And who said they were empty?
FIX THE LEAKS
Irish Water is nowhere near meeting its own target. Between 2011 and 2021 it was meant to reduce network leakage from 205 to 166 million litres. Two-thirds of the way through that window, network leakage is now higher than it was in the first place at 207 million litres.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/mains-supply-awash-with-leaks-behind-dublin-water-shortage-1.3561620?mode=amp#.W0dAKi9wNWF.facebook
Irish Water says the only answer is to spend €1.3 billion pumping yet more water 200km across the country to Dublin. Meanwhile, it has set itself a mains replacement target of just 1 per cent per annum, meaning some pipes will not be touched for another 100 years. Déjà vu, anyone?
Pouring more and more water into a badly leaking bucket eventually gets tiresome.
Logically the approach should be to upgrade the distribution infrastructure whilst repairing leaks. This should be a publicly funded project, publicly owned and a planned capital project even if the work is contracted out to private contractors.
Old journal article highlighting the IW bull PR in fixing leaks
Irish Water isn’t fixing more leaks – or spending more on infrastructure
http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-water-infrastructure-spend-1847942-Dec2014/
IRISH WATER IS set to spend less money on infrastructure than the Government’s average spend over the past 10 years.
The company’s capital spend on infrastructure up to November of this year was €300 million – while the government’s average spend between 2004 and 2013 was €430 million
@Irish Bob:
(1)Have a read of CSO 2017 Report “CSO- Public Income and Expenditure on Water Supply and Wastewater Treatment 2000-2013 and you’ll be amazed to find out that from 2004-2013 Capex Expenditure was €6.25B which averages@€694m!(it would have been more only Government slashed Capex from peak in 2008 @€973m to €467m in 2011,€442m in 2012&€411m in 2013)
Total Opex+Capex Expenditure from 2004-2013 was €13.39B
(2)In the decade before FG got into Government:2000-2010:Capex came to €7.33B,Opex came to €8568:Total=€15.89B so Capex averages out at €733m
So in my view the Councils spent significant public money on Capex & according to WSIP 2007-2009 there were 955 individual water and wastewater schemes at various stages of development with a value of €5.5B: wastewater schemes=587 projects valued at €3.2B
:water supply projects=301 projects valued at €2.4B
:other projects (including water conservation projects)=67 valued at €0.2B
Note:All contracts, projects & schemes re Councils transferred to IW.
@Nuala Mc Namara: why do you guys keep telling each other the same stuff? I
Would the economic crisis of 2008 have anything to do with the reduction of spending on water?
Why don’t you share with Bob the CapEx for the last 5 years and also the planned CapEx for the next 4?
@Tim Pot: What you call “the same stuff” are FACTS!
I’ve told you before that while FF achieved 2/3rds of Troika adjustment they were able to spend a considerable amount on Capex from 2008-2010(inclusive) ie €2.171B including €973m in 2008 …..however FG Government with just 1/3rd of adjustment to do slashed Capex:2011€467,2009:€442&€411 in 2010 so your argument not credible!
Major leak for the past month, water coming up from under the road – Turners Cross, Cork.
Its coming home bahahhaahhaah no its not !
25 years for Irish Water just to fix leaking pipes
My home was flooded some years ago. We got an engineer in at our own cost to find out why it happened because our local authority told us we had to install a pump to prevent it happening again. Come to discover the flood was caused by tree roots that had broken into the main pipes under the road and it was estimated that it had gone on for decades. No maintenance. No clean ups. No shore clearance. No road sweeping. It is not just IW. It’s the local councils too. All the money was going to travel to junkets and big expenses and PR.
@Alex Bailey: couldn’t agree more. Irish water are a joke no doubt. But they are a convenient flogging horse. This is the council’s and the last 10 government’s fault. There has been zero investment in infrastructure or more so maintenance of any kind in our water system. It goes beyond that too, look at the state of paths and public amenities in general.
@Bilbo Baggins: That’s exactly it.. and more. They’re all a disgrace and they’d go spare if they had what we had (sewage and muck floating around our kitchen. They did nothing for us. Oh sorry, they did. Following day they gave us four rotten smelly sandbags leaking sand everywhere which we had to take to the dump afterwards cos they wouldn’t come back to pick them up. By the way, they couldn’t help because we weren’t an emergency. I hate people.
Still no politicians coming out and talking about how we need to fix the infrastructure, no??? Its a crisis situation going by IrishWater and not a whimper from government. How about fixing the pipes?? If we can send 2 euro a month to the poorest countries to build water infrastructure with good pipes surely we can do a better job??? Maybe the government need to run adds looking for 2 euro donations a month
Irish Water An ‘Unmitigated Disaster’ by by Ian Maleney .. A must read read by people.
http://novaramedia.com/2014/11/19/an-unmitigated-disaster-8-reasons-its-kicking-off-in-ireland/
Especially 5,6,7,8 truly shocking
Its to cut down on water leaks,they should have fixed the pipes and built resivoirs instead of €500 + on meters.IW is not needed and it has squandered €4bn to date,and services have deterioated.
We used to be under a local group scheme until Irish Water took control, we’ve Never had a problem with our supply prior to this & have been here for 20+ years, the worst we’ve experienced is a few hours planned water cuts or fixing leaks which never went on for more than 12 hours, however we’ve had our water cut completely twice this summer for 2-4 days, with no explanation & no information available by contacting Irish Water, we live in rural Kerry.
Irish Water are absolutely useless & just an excuse by FG to funnel even more money into Denis O’Brien for favourable media support.
We’re living in a quango!
How bad is Ireland’s infrastructure? This is utterly pathetic. This Third-World nonsense is the result not of a heatwave, but of a chronic lack of foresight and investment in critical, economic infrastructure over the decades since independence. We are entirely reliant in Ireland on what was bequeathed to us by the visionary and pro-active Victorians, but the vital infrastructure they gave us is now creaking thanks to our indolence.
Stick a pipe in the back door of Ballygowan they have so much water they have to sell it???
More scaremongering ffs
We’ve had night time restrictions every night for the last few weeks now, received no notice whatsoever from Irish water
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@Helen Hayes: it’s
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@Helen Hayes: couldn’t have said it better myself
Ah here it rained last night…there will be lads goin up the streets in boats tonight on the six one news
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