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THERE HAVE BEEN calls for actions to be taken to prevent further deterioration at Dublin’s Iveagh Market and to restore the structure to its former glory following new images that reveal the scale of its disrepair.
The market was developed by Lord Iveagh, Edward Cecil Guinness in 1902 to accommodate Dublin’s many street traders. It has been derelict for more than 20 years and is the subject of an ongoing legal dispute.
A viewing organised by the Liberties Cultural Association allowed members of the public to view the Francis Street market from outside on Sunday and those who caught a glimpse said they were shocked at the condition it is in.
Images they shared show the market is significantly waterlogged and overgrown.
Iveagh Market today pic.twitter.com/Q1uGAHhqDP
— Conrad O Keeffe (@KeeffeConrad) August 8, 2021
This morning got a glimpse of what remains of the Liberties historic Iveagh Market. Emergency works needed Immediately to save the bones of this beautiful old lady @theiveaghtrust @dubcivictrust @DubCityCouncil pic.twitter.com/cWe5Dk879L
— Alison Cowzer (@Alisoncowzer) August 8, 2021
Went into town today to check out the opening of the Iveagh Market doors to the public (big thanks to @OldDublinTown for the heads up). I felt like crying. Its an absolute disgrace that this beautiful building has been allowed to fall into this state of decay! pic.twitter.com/ALZAW81Jb0
— DiscoverDublin (@dublin_discover) August 8, 2021
Speaking to The Journal, Graham Hickey, conservation director at the Dublin Civic Trust, said the structure is now “heavily decayed”.
“A major problem with the building is the amount of water ingress over the years, all of the outside brick has become saturated,” he said.
That type of Edwardian brick, Portmarnock brick it’s called, has a glazed face, a ceramic-type face and so many of those have exploded off the brick. There’s only so much repair mortar you can use on bricks of that kind, probably a lot of the brick will have to be replaced, which is a great shame.
“It’s very sad to see that level of deterioration, I saw one or two of the photos and it’s really quite shocking.”
He said it appears from images that some of the timber work has also decayed and may have to be replaced.
A 2019 report by Howley Hayes Architects, commissioned by Dublin City Council, advised that more than €13 million would be required just to carry out “essential structural repairs” on the building.
Speed is of the essence when it comes to protecting and restoring older buildings such as the Iveagh Market, he said.
“There’s no question that you do reach a tipping point, especially when you have water coming in from above,” he said.
Ownership
Late last year the Guinness family took back possession of the historical market in the latest twist in an ongoing ownership saga.
For over 75 years, Iveagh Markets housed a large number of Dublin’s traders under a 99-year lease agreement between the Guinness family and Dublin Corporation.
The Guinness’ agreed to lease it to Dublin Corporation provided it be used solely as a market for Dublin 8 locals.
In the mid-1990s, Dublin City Council said it was looking for a developer to redevelop the dilapidated Iveagh Markets.
Businessman Martin Keane was granted planning permission for a redevelopment in 2007 after agreeing a 500-year leasehold with DCC in 1997. The council later announced its intention to repossess the building as two separate planning permissions had lapsed and Keane failed to raise finance for development.
A third planning application by Keane was refused by the council on the basis that he was not the legal owner and he launched a High Court case.
The Guinness family got involved in December last year, invoking a clause in the original Deed of Conveyance from 1906 which stated that the market would revert to the Guinness family it it was not developed as a market.
A dispute over ownership is still ongoing, but speaking to speaking to Newtalk’s Pat Kenny in February, Edward Guinness (the current Lord Iveagh) said there are plans to restore the market.
He had in December circulated a “call to arms” to local people about the need to bring the market back to life, which he said resulted in “overwhelming “support.
“We just need to keep gaining traction because we will get to a sustainable use for this magnificent structure,” he said.
Guinness said the structure was built to a very high standard with innovative techniques but “like every structure if isn’t looked after, nurtured and cared for, it will go back beyond repair”.
Kevin McGowan, chairperson of AM Guinness markets, which is to oversee the development of the Iveagh Market, told the programme that they are hoping to redesign the market, taking some inspiration from European markets.
“Listening to the people of the Liberties is also a key factor because their parents and their grandparents have been involved in the market for a long time since its opening,” he said.
“They are the lifeblood of the market before it was closed. Also the Liberties is an underdeveloped area, which we hope that through this development, we will bring industry, employment, and a lot of tourists, and revamp the area.”
He said the new market would have space for food and clothes stalls, coffee shops, art displays and pop-up shops. McGowan said the space could also be used for public meetings and concerts.
He said he could not give a timeline for this plan to be executed, telling the programme he would “have to talk to a fortune teller about that at the moment”.
- With reporting by Cónal Thomas.
Correct judgement!
Good to see this judgment. Not every trip or fall is somebody else’s fault. If the same injury happened at home to a child you’d tell them “get up, what to you expect all jumping around like a bunch of wild animals”.
Chancer!
At last some common sense in these claim cases. Fair play to the pub for going into the court room. More than likely this ladies solicitor tried to settle it on the steps.
Shame on the vultures who tried to represent her.
Ah that’s not fair! They’re only doing what the client tell them to do. Like a hooker.
Couldn’t agree more D1!!
Some woman would jump around like wild animal’s just to get a free dildo!
As Omar Little from ‘The Wire’ put it; “I gots the shotgun, you got the briefcase. It’s all in the game, y’all.”
Yes Mark correct judgement but if the judge found so much as a hair out of place with regards to health and safety then he may have gone the other way.
I would like to know whatever happened to personal responsibility. This woman was running to get a free adult “toy” when she and another woman bumped into each other. What makes people think they can profit from accidents caused by their own hands to take companies with deep pockets to court. Should brides stop throwing bouquets for fear of being sued by guests….where does this stop. I’m glad that the bar owners refused to settle and I’m glad they fought right up to the high court.
Someone has to say it. She was taking the micky and made a balls of it.
*slow clap* well played Jedi, well played!
If I got money whenever I fell over in a pub…
Claim culture in Ireland is just pathetic it does a disservice to genuine injuries of genuine people.The Judge got it spot on!
Just like the Lady last week who successfully claimed from her Husbands Car Insurance for the second time and the idiot Judge gave his blessing ! Who pays ? Not the Judge !!
My pregnant wife fell over a rail left on the ground between to clothing stands in pennys on saturday. The member of staff standing over it decided to walk off. Thankfully my wife managed to land on her knee and protect the baby.
If we can take an apolgy for that, a woman trying to catch a sex toy in a pub should leave it there too.
The irony of this case being heard on April Fools Day is beyond laughable.
Can people not take any responsibility for their own clumsiness/stupid decisions anymore?
How embarrassing going to the high court because you fell while trying to catch a cock ring.
But did she get the ring?
Ha ha! Scarlet for her..
When the judge said bad things happen to good people, was he referring to the proprietors of the Lough Inn?
Scarlet for her ma
Serves her right.Terrible to see people bleeding the country dry over claims due to their own stupidity.Well done the law.
Common sense at last for compo claims.
I feel sorry for her …
… She Looks like that ring would have suited her …
… I’ll get my coat …
O……..M………G
I wouldn’t have jumped her either.
I wonder was it ‘No claim No fee’. If not she is in for a hefty bill
So you wouldn’t give her some of yourself Konnie?!!!
Jumping and getting injured trying to catch a dildo… well what next… I just don’t know…
If you like it then you should’ve put a ring on it!
Vibrating C0ck Ring,, There I’ve said it ..
No win no fee simply means you don’t pay your own legal team. .. However you are liable fpr the other sides fees so she is in for a hefty bill
High court cases are usually very expensive I wonder why there’s no reporting on if she has to pay costs – she seemed pretty chirpy on the news saying that the she was just pleased the judge believed her version of the story but she’s in for a hefty shock if she has to cough up costs !!
“my precious!”
That made me laugh hard. :)
Feel sorry for the injured woman, but a great result for common sense. You can’t bubble wrap the world!
People will claim for just about anything these days if they sniff a few quid. Parasite..
Just as well she failed. This type of claim could have become rampant otherwise…
The fact that she brought this action knowing the media coverage is testament as to her mental state of mind! Although maybe that’s as a result of the sex toy fall, hmmmm, interesting!
The Judge was absolutely correct in his decision
Did this woman pay for the case herself or did she get free legal aid ?! I really hope she payed for taking such a case .
Guaranteed. she got free legal aid.
Legal aid would not be available to her in this case, she may have had a solicitor acting for her on a “no foal no fee” basis but she will still be liable for outlay and the other sides costs.
She has to present a young horse or she has to pay! Seems an odd system
It’s a complicated legal system but a sensible one. Like the time myself and my wife went to a goat to decide who was keeping the kids.
They should rename the pub to “the flying cock”
Must have been desperate to put the sextoy round her cock
‘Ladies Night’ Go hard or go home
2 questions
1. Did she get the ring?
2. who paid the court costs?
What a waste of time and money! Great to see such productively coming out of our courts….!?
How ya Nessa!
Hey!
Imagine even going to court and telling them what she was jumping for!!! Sad lady and very very desperate.
That’s Ireland’s most expensive cock ring, She made a balls of that situation and she tried to run rings around the judge Lol. I could go on. Ridiculous case.
Trying to rip off the pub for her own drunken antics…people like these sicken me
I knew it! I’ve been saying it for years now and people have called me a kill joy. Dildo grushies are dangerous and reckless. Stay safe kids!
Circuit Court and High Court, that must have cost a few bob. Who pays?
Free legal aid pays. It was probably ‘childrens allowance night’ as they call it when they get the few for the kids and head out boozing.
One look at her would tell you that.
how’d this get near the high court? she must have been looking for a sizable payout yet no mention of ANY injuries nevermind serious ones but I suppose the auld Psychological trauma got a run out.
The judge said she had painful injuries. Fair play to him for being able to keep a straight face.
Best laugh i’ve had all day – reading some of the comments on here! Well done folks
I do always tell them in the local they need to start raffling the cock rings instead of just throwing them into the crowd for a free for all stampeed, this was an accident waiting to happen
I pity the pub that is out the cost of defending this shambles of a case …. If it was free legal aid they should be accountable for costs!
If she is on legal aid the state picks up the pubs bill.. if not she pays it thats assuming the judge ordered her liable for costs
Is legal aid available for compo claims like this?
The judge left each side liable for their own costs.
Away home to play with your dildo you chancer
Scarlah for ya
She must have being planning to Ring her partner when she got home….
What journal has not put in tjis story and all others did is that she was thrown out of pub for drunken behaviour and did not go to hospital that night the pub also said no prove she even fell as for costs both sides pay their own so if no win no fee biggest losers solicitors and pub.. seems more and more of these cases been thrown out was another one similar last week
The ring would be better put in her nose.
I didn’t realise spot prizes were still an element of life today. My late Dad told me of something he did in the early fifties to win one. A bit off topic, I know. The ballroom had a spot prize for the first person who could bring a cigarette lighter to the stage. Bear in mind, that in those days, they were expensive and rare. He ran up to the stage with a box of matches to claim the prize. The compere complained that he hadn’t brought a cigarette lighter to the stage, just a box of matches. My Dad, struck a match and lit a cigarette, and then asked are matches not capable of being cigarette lighters. The comperes complaints were drowned out by the audiences protestations and eventually, my Dad won the ten shilling prize. Cool, or what?.
The really cool thing is that it’s not Journal.ie “April Gays day” like very other day for the las 12 months.
Finally, us fools have a day all to our own. I’m gonna savour it.
Must have been a monster c@*k ring jumping like shergar to get it lol probably thought the c@*k was with it
Is this an April fools story of is it real?
It was in the papers a few days ago that this case was coming up and I had to check the date. Thought I’d missed a couple of days.
What a miscarriage of justice. She should take this to the Supreme Court next. And if that fails, The European Court of Justice.
That’s gone very hard for her
Am I the only one who saw “Jump” and “sex toy” in the headline and thought, Ouch!?
I honestly don’t think I’ve ever laughed as heartily or much. Honest to God that’s the funniest article I’ve ever seen. Was sure it was an April Fools day prank!!! Only in Ireland!!!
A load of cock and bull in my opinion
I used to own a pub & nightclub & had to face chancers like this every single week. The biggest problem is the Insurance companies, once you report the incident, they take over the case & they can’t surrender quick enough !! These bunch of cowardly clowns have created the whole Compo culture by paying out money to any fool that throws in a claim no matter how spurious. Congratulation to the Judge who should be immediately promoted to Minister of Justice, if there were more like him, this country wouldn’t be full of greedy little chancers who think that their stupidity should be paid for by decent business people trying to stay in business. I sincerely hope that the legal costs are ruinously expensive & they end up bankrupting that excuse for a woman !
Ah the poor crature!!!
I hope her legal fees are astronomical and that she has to cover the defendant’s fees also. Then I hope the word spreads like wildfire through the spongers and dregs of society.
But no one talks about how the cock ring must have felt, justice for the mauled cock ring
You have to ask what sort of legal advice she was getting as her face is now plastered all over the media.” No win, no fee” does not mean that you don’t have to pay court costs.
I don’t think I’ve laughed as heartily or as much in ages. Only in Ireland!!!!
In some way or form we pay for this idiots decision to take case to high court. No one else can afford high court case when they actually need to challenge a business or profession that hides behind high court fees. So justice is only for injury claims using no win no fee, the very wealthy and criminals given free legal aid.
Both sides have to settle their own legal costs which means the pub has to pay legal team, staff members and experts for giving evidence. It is a hugh cost and rest assured there will be no more future events which will affect local business revenue while the lady laughs it off. Muppet of the year. How many bar staff could of been hired instead of paying for this stupid case.
So did she get the prize or not?
Morto for her husband :)
Are these cock rings any good?….time for bed!
While visiting a Booths Chemist recently I was surprised to observe similar products beside the cough bottles.
Should have called Saul!
She made the mistake of falling inside the pub. She should have fallen getting in to a taxi.
Looks like she’ll just have to sue the solicitor now for failing to win the case – and what about the manufacturer of those shoes she was wearing?
I really don’t understand why you can’t just say ‘cock ring’. Is it a bad phrase or something?.
She looks like she’s buzzing
The judge seen this one coming as there wad a bit of a ring to it
If ye like it ye should put a ring on it :0
She must of been hard up for that c*ck ring,
She looks like she needs it✌
The Lough Inn, Ballybrack. You meet some high class characters in that kip all right.
The cabra house / oasis another mad place the be throwing more than sex toys in there I tell yea
Ring on Fire?
Think the ring fell on the wrong hook for a satisfactory outcome!
If she liked it then she should have put a ring on it!!
This “individual” was delighted to have her voice heard! Deluded and desperate. You’d only have to look at the hack of it! As for her backing singers that were leaving the court on the news yesterday, obviously there for the seconds!
And another thing, this Cow is so ugly, the sex toy is probably the closest she gets to the real thing !
Good good vibrations, enough of that craic the Judge said!
When’s your live DVD out?
This judgement is the correct and appropriate application of common sense, which is very welcome . Particularly impressive is the argument and wording of the judgement, which is superb and could/should be applied in many such legal cases!
Sucker!
Woman who jumped liked a rampant rabbit
would agree with what people say if it was true i was at the first court judgement and the reason it went to court is because she and her kids were warned not to take them to court so it was not all to do with the person pushing her it was to show people u have to stand up to bullys and the people the lough had as witness were all payed to lie was not at the high court but the reason that was on was to prove they were all telling lies which way proven just a shame it could not have came out the real reason why it went to the high court but any fool reading the whole case should have seen their was something else happening
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