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Abused by three men from the age of six: 'I shut down. All I know is I was crying for my mother'

John Allen first reported the abuse almost 20 years ago but feels he may need to take his case to Europe to get justice.

IRISH MEN AND women who were sexually abused in Irish schools when they were children are still fighting for redress, despite the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) finding the Irish State liable for abuse suffered by Cork woman Louise O’Keeffe in 2014.

Prior to that judgement, both the High Court and Supreme Court had ruled that the State was not liable for the abuse O’Keeffe suffered. Subsequently, the State Claims Agency wrote to 135 people who had taken cases against the State, inviting them to withdraw their complaints, warning they would also fail in their attempts. 

It is now four years on from the ECHR ruling but Irish people abused as children in our schools are still fighting for redress. 

TheJournal.ie has spoken to some of the men battling for justice and heard about the abuse they suffered as children and the impact it has had on their lives. 

One of those men is John Allen.

I remember looking down and calling out for my mother.

Over the space of six years, Allen was sexually abused by three men. For those years he had no escape as the men were entrenched in his life and his community.

Allen went to North Monastery CBS in Cork city from 1969 – 1980 for primary and secondary schooling.

In 1971/72 his teacher was Brother Gary Creevey.

“I recall one day in particular, I was doing a project next to the annex in the gymnasium and for a few weeks previous he’d be saying, ‘You’re very bold John, you’re bold in class.’

“One day I happened to tell a joke. He came into the annex and he called me out and the fear started kicking in.

He held me by the hand and I knew something was not right here. He basically dragged me across the gymnasium and I resisted and I started crying because I knew something was going on… he took me into the cloak room.

“It was a wet day and all the coats were smelly and damp and everything. He just took down my pants and he decided to, you know.”

John said a doctor recently asked him if there was penetration and he said, “I don’t honestly know but I don’t believe so.

To this day… I shut down. All I know is I was crying for my mother. I was nine years of age.

The abuse continued after that, often in the school swimming pool under the pretence of helping the boys to swim.

He’d have his hands inside your trunks under the water or undressing you afterwards. I was well capable at nine of drying myself off but he assisted you, that was the pretence.

“I can remember darkened classrooms. I have this memory of all the blinds down and the lights out. Is it right to have the lights out?

There were two pupils in a seat and the next thing he’d sit next to you and he’s obviously aroused and he’d say, ‘You’re so bold’. Things like that come back to me.

Hiding before school

Allen described how his mother went up to the school to complain as there was a huge change in her son’s behaviour. Allen was hiding in the mornings before school and wetting the bed.

“She asked: ‘What is wrong with my son? He’s locking himself away. I’m finding him in cupboards around the house or up in the shed hiding so he won’t have to go to school.

“‘There’s something wrong, my son is being bullied or something. He’s wetting the bed, he came home yesterday and there were brown stains on his leg.’”

Allen said his leg was stained because he ran down the corridor to avoid Creevey.

I thought he was going to take me somewhere and I ran into the toilets but I just lost it, I lost the bowel movement and I cleaned myself up but my mother noticed the stains.

“I pulled things over me so she couldn’t find me in the mornings, that’s not what school is about but I couldn’t say anything to my mother. I was bold you see.”

Creevy was not convicted for his crimes until 2004, 33 years after he abused Allen.

Outside of school, Allen was also being groomed by a person involved in a local organisation he was a member of.

“When I was six and a half I was taken on a trip. He was already grooming me, he made me leader of the tuck shop. ‘You’re very good John, you’re going to be one of our best.’

“I do remember occasions where during the day he took me aside and the usual stuff again, ‘take down your pants’.”

A few years later, a third man also abused Allen but he, like the second, was never convicted.

“There was one instance where he [the third man] took me into a room … basically he was masturbating me. I was a bit older to know what was going on.

There was always a reason, I was being bold. That was his way of rationalising it and he’s indoctrinating you that you’re bold and then the child will understand why this is being done to him.

Allen recalls how in court for Creevy’s case, the clergyman was asked if there were others apart from John and said, “There may have been one or two.”

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Drinking at 12 

Allen said he started drinking when he was about 12 years old.

“My father worked shift work in ESB and my mother would say, ‘Would you get a bottle of Bass for your father coming home?’ so I’d buy another with my pocket money so my mam wouldn’t notice the money gone.

“I do remember my father coming up to the room and saying, ‘Look, what’s wrong? Why don’t you want to go [to the club]?’

I’d have a bottle of Bass in the room and that gave me the courage. That gave me the feeling to take away the terror to go down. I’d think, ‘Jesus that is doing something to me.’ You’d feel better walking in.

“It was dark times, dark times. It was awful really.

“I switched off in school, the teachers were saying I was very bright but they were constantly calling my mother into school saying, ‘Why won’t he knuckle down and this and that?’”

Allen’s mother was ‘very pro-education’ so he did a degree in computer science and mathematics after his Leaving Certificate but went to England within 24 hours of receiving his degree.

I just had to get out of Cork. I lived next door to the school and I was meeting [the club] leader in the town. He still thought he had the power over me.

Homeless

Allen began drinking more in England and also started using drugs.

“I remember having awful nightmares over there, guys I was working with knew there was something not right.

“Some of the Dublin lads I was living with said, ‘There’s something wrong you John, you’re getting awful nightmares.’ Looking back, I know what was wrong.

“Illicit drugs and alcohol caught up with me. For a short while, I became homeless.”

Allen came back to Cork in 1991.

I knew if I didn’t get back from England, I mightn’t have survived. I came back and I kind of had a breakdown.

Allen says he was still drinking when he returned home from England but he wanted to get back on track.

He said that he was out of the game with computer programming as things had changed massively in two years and he had a two-year gap in his CV and didn’t have the relevant experience.

“That’s what led me down the teaching route … I met my wife-to-be, I just wanted to try to get back on track.”

‘What would I be now?’

Allen says he would like to know where he would be if he didn’t suffer sexual abuse as a child.

“I’ve had 22 hospitalisations, that’s half a life spent in hospital or in therapy or recovering from illicit drugs from years ago in London or alcoholism, which I managed to beat.

“You’re sculpted from a child into an adult and once we reach a certain age we’re already formed. What would I be now without that change in behaviour?”

Allen also asked, “What if a victim was forced to sit in front of the monster who raped her the following day?

I was locked in a room with a man, a monster, and for six and a half hours a day he was in control.
“I remember standing in the schoolyard thinking, ‘If I go [to the club] I wake up and the [person] is inside my sleeping bag doing things in the middle of the night. So if I’m good this stuff happens and yet if I’m bold this happens.’ I could never figure that out.”

A doctor explained to Allen that the conflict of the polarised grooming meant that as a child, he had nowhere to go in his head.

“The minute he said that, the penny dropped. I actually thanked him, I said, ‘Now I can see, what you said means so much.’

“He [the doctor] said that that was deeply psychology traumatising, the conflict there is in your head and I have it to this day. He said I would have it for the rest of my life.”

‘I want justice’

Allen said his mother came home “bawling crying” after giving a statement to gardaí in 2003, a year before Creevey was convicted. Allen said he told his mother:

“Mam, I’ll go after all these men. I’ll hold the State, the Christian Brothers, [the club] and those three men accountable for what they did and so far I have kept that promise.”

Allen set up Vocads, Victims Of Child Abuse in Day Schools, and has connected with other men who were abused in school.

“I contacted a solicitor in Limerick and he put me on to one individual and his name is Christopher Rainbow and he [Rainbow] said come up to Limerick and I was up there within a few hours and I met a couple of lads. I was on my own for 17 years and the lads couldn’t believe it.

“It’s a close-knit group. We went out to the European Parliament in Brussels, campaigning and talking to media and trying to get someone to listen and say ‘you can not do this and walk away from us’.”

Survivors of abuse have a long history of battling with the Irish State.

In the high-profile case of Cork woman Louise O’Keefe, both the High Court and Supreme Court ruled that the State was not responsible for abuse she suffered in primary school, but the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) overruled their judgements.

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Following that ruling, the State said it would make settlement offers of up to €84,000 to people with cases similar to O’Keefe’s.

However, the government argues that the ECHR decision applies only to people who were abused after an initial complaint was made against a teacher and no action was taken.

This has been widely criticised with survivors saying it essentially means that the second child abused by a teacher is entitled to a settlement but the first isn’t. O’Keeffe herself described it as “discrimination of the highest order”.

Allen is now considering going to Europe like O’Keeffe but says he shouldn’t have to.

“Why should I have to go to the European Court of Human Rights? Because my State is an utter failure.

“My upcoming battle shows Ireland’s deeply held hatred of citizen’s who dare demand justice.

Louise having gone and fought and battled and now they are trying to destroy another man. They didn’t destroy Louise, they sure won’t destroy me.

He added that the State “doesn’t care if it re-traumatises those who were so traumatised in childhood”.

“I went to the gardaí in 2000. Shame on Ireland, the UN have repeatedly castigated Ireland on its Human Rights record – child abuse, Magdalene Laundries, mother and baby homes, institutions, symphysiotomy etc. We lived in a very dark country.

The State is my enemy when it should be my friend. How wrong is that?

Asked what redress would mean, Allen said, “It’s a debt that’s owed to me.

“I don’t want any apologies, it would be shallow now to me at this stage. ‘Sorry for putting you through hell for the past 18 years and now because you’ve caught up with us we’re very sorry’.

“I have one life, they fucked up my life. I want my justice now … justice should have been served a long time ago.”

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    Mar 5th 2015, 3:22 PM

    Yahoo opened a new office next to the Gibson hotel in the docklands. Dublin seems to be booming again. Good news for the country.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 5:05 PM

    They were actually already in the east point business park, just move across the road really. Verizon are opening a new global procurement centre in East Point, looking to hire 180 people.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 7:48 PM

    Why is this building so low rise? have DCC learned nothing?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 8:16 PM

    I read they’re keeping the office at East Point. The new office block at the Point is to house these 200 new jobs. The company is relocating most of its business to Dublin from London.

    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/item/31957-yahoo-to-create-more-than

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:43 PM

    The first comment no this article was as expected, a negative sniping one, typical of the ‘knocking’ culture in Ireland.

    This one always comes to mind. “The Irish don’t know what they want and are prepared to fight to the death to get it.”

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:56 PM

    I like knockers.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:57 PM

    Me too. But only nice knockers ;)

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:55 PM

    Only a Shinner type dimwit is unhappy with good news. They are a depressing lot.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 11:59 PM

    I’m a Sinn Fein supporter and I welcome this. As we’ve seen recently Sinn Fein are the best of all parties at persuading Americans to part with their money. Is that what we need in Ireland Inc?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:49 PM

    There was another article about large companies not coming to Dublin due to lack of office space. With Microsoft vacating 3 buildings this could alleviate some of that problem, admittedly the sites are not city centre but do have good connections into town.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 3:01 PM

    They are likely already let out. Not much high quality space like that available.

    What needs to happen is for the offices Cherrywood to get built quicker. It’s 5 minutes further down the M50, directly onto the N11 into town, has two luas stops and it’s not far from nice housing like Foxrock or Dalkey.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 7:47 PM

    That site has been bought so hopefully some move towards the end of the year…..also plans for up to three thousand (hopefully reasonably priced) houses!

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    Mar 6th 2015, 2:30 AM

    Hope on scottie! Reasonably priced houses in Ireland? Lol! There is a ton more room for development in Sandyford and Stillorgan business parks, the buildings Microsoft are leaving are large high quality ones, they’ll be let in no time. There is plenty of room left for apartment development in Sandyford too. It really was a great facility they built around the beacon. Lived there for 18 months. Every shop you need on your doorstep, excellent transport, decent quality construction, energy efficient apartments. Pity there wasn’t more built like it at the time. A very sustainable development. There’s shop for that area still though. As with cherry wood. The luas makes all the difference to these places. Great news from Microsoft. Great for the country, a vote of confidence to invest so much.

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    Mar 6th 2015, 6:39 PM

    We can but hope! I work in the area and agree…sandyford has most of what u need but it always feels like a ghost town after office hours up there….a sort of concrete jungle with no atmosphere. Site opposite the south quarter has recently been bought, down from microsofts current place…so plenty of potential for res units there!

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    Mar 5th 2015, 4:40 PM

    Well done Microsoft, IDA and Ireland. A great vote of confidence in the competence of the Irish.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 6:57 PM

    Always good to see job creation. But will multinationals bring decent paying jobs? Will these jobs stop brain drain of Irish graduates?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:52 PM

    I have enjoyed how the name of Sandyford industrial estate has changed to become more fashionable over the years.
    Is it a innovation park now?

    Decent place for a business though, a proper cluster of companies in the area, excellent transport links, decent public transport and lots of nice houses nearby. Bit dull as a place to live but that’s about the worst of it.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:59 PM

    I wonder how many new jobs and opportunities Enda has to announce and get his picture in until people start thinking that he’s actually doing a very good job?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:50 PM

    This was announced already, last year.

    If anyone works in the area, things are going to get interesting with this & the redevelopment of the roundabout junction at Leopardstown road/Brewery Road!

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:53 PM

    I thought it was handled well with the Luas bridge. The traffic isn’t as bad as it used to be.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 3:00 PM

    Is it done?
    (I haven’t worked there for a few months)

    The roundabout will be removed and replaced by a box junction.

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    Mar 6th 2015, 2:37 AM

    Not before time Business Cat. They did add a little side road near Bewley, down the back of woodies that brings you to the business Park when coming from the m50 roundabout, that cuts out the need to go down to the leopardstown RA, but last time I was using it frequently people didn’t seem to know about it and we’re using the RA still. It takes a good few mins out of it at peak times tbh.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:55 PM

    Great, more people paying taxes, to fund my welfare benefits!

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:36 PM

    Cool. Seventy five construction jobs per annum for two years. Any chance of a national holiday?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:47 PM

    Sheik,
    By there very nature construction jobs tend not to be forever, once the building is finished so are the jobs.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:47 PM

    There’s one of those the week after next.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:52 PM

    Sheik has a valid point. This isn’t going to create long term employment in the IT sector.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 3:01 PM

    Best not bother then.

    Sorry Microsoft, build your office somewhere else!

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    Mar 5th 2015, 7:24 PM

    Isn’t it better than nothing?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 9:24 PM

    @Sheik Yahbouti,
    Most of those construction jobs will be done by Eastern Europeans, working for a pittance.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 10:03 PM

    This building is horrible. They have cut down lots of the trees that boarder the Leopardstown race course grounds making a nice park-like area thar bit more concrete

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    Mar 6th 2015, 12:39 AM

    Christ… Is there anything yee wont p!ss & moan about!

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    Mute Steve Tracey
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    Mar 6th 2015, 9:18 AM

    Sinead,
    “This building is horrible”
    Ht building they haven’t even dug the foundations yet.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 5:59 PM

    Well it will have windows i guess ?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 9:32 PM

    That was so bad it was good…

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    Mar 5th 2015, 4:26 PM

    This was made public over 6 months ago.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/microsoft-go-ahead-dun-laoghaire-campus-1606576-Aug2014/

    Anyway it’s very good news to see them making a commitment like this!

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    Mute Glen
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    Mar 5th 2015, 2:47 PM

    It’s only going to create temporary employment in the building trade.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 3:08 PM

    Yes how true, and it is a solid investment in the permanent Jobs already in place.
    So temporary jobs now.
    Job security for those currently at Microsoft.
    And a good signal to other companies that Ireland is a place they choose to invest in.

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    Mute Glen
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    Mar 5th 2015, 3:39 PM

    There jobs were never at risk.
    Microsoft has been here already for years.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 4:59 PM

    Dell was here for years. Also, is there such a thing as a permanent construction job?

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    Mar 5th 2015, 7:51 PM

    Every job in construction is temporary. You can’t build something forever.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 9:04 PM

    Dont tell “Bob” that

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    Mar 5th 2015, 4:13 PM

    Great news. The only pity is to see all these IT companies out on greenfield sites when it would be much better to have them all close together in high rise office buildings.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 3:46 PM

    Every job announcement the FG fan boys start to congratulate themselves,why do you have to type it when you can just reach across the desk and lick each other’s balls .

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    Mar 5th 2015, 7:49 PM

    Epdc-5 was supposed to be the consolidated building for the atrium 12 years. Things quickly grew beyond that plan keeping the atrium in use. Also Google did not coin the work hard play hard tech attitude. Plenty of companies did that here long before Google even existed.

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