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'I thought at least that was sacred' - Trump's chief of staff strongly defends president's call to war widow

If Trump and John Kelly aren’t getting along, it didn’t show in the chief of staff’s speech this evening.

John F. Kelly White House chief of staff John Kelly, addressing the media this evening Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP / AP

WHITE HOUSE CHIEF of staff John Kelly has delivered an extraordinary denunciation of a Democratic congresswoman who made claims about a phone call made by Donald Trump to the family of a dead soldier.

Kelly pulled no punches this evening in accusing Florida’s Frederica Wilson of politicising what he called a “sacred” presidential effort to console the grieving loved ones of slain soldier La David Johnson.

Kelly, in an unexpected and emotional appearance in the White House briefing room, invoked the death of his own son, killed in Afghanistan in 2010, as he lashed out at Wilson, who earlier this week said that President Trump had been disrespectful in his condolence call to the family of Johnson, who was recently killed during an ambush in Niger.

Kelly, speaking slowly and forcefully, said he was “heartbroken” that Wilson overheard the conversation and used it to attack the president.

“It stuns me that a member of Congress listened into that conversation,” said Kelly.

It stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred.

Trump has emphatically rejected claims that he was disrespectful. But he ignited a storm of his own this week when he boasted about his commitment to calling service members’ next of kin and brought Kelly into the controversy by wondering aloud if President Barack Obama had called the former Marine general after the death of Kelly’s own son.

Kelly confirmed today that Obama had not in fact called, but he made clear “that’s not a criticism”.

“That’s not a negative thing,” he said.

I don’t believe all presidents call. I believe they all write.

‘Lighten the burden’

He revealed that when Trump took office, he urged the president not to make those calls, saying: “I said to him, ‘Sir there’s nothing you can do to lighten the burden on these families’.”

But when Trump indicated he wanted to do so, Kelly revealed to him what General Joseph Dunford, now chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told him when his son Robert was killed.

Kelly recalled that Dunford said his son “was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed”.

Frederica Wilson Frederica Wilson Alan Diaz / AP Alan Diaz / AP / AP

He knew what he was getting into. He knew what the possibilities were because we’re at war.

And Kelly added that Dunford told him that “when he died, he was surrounded by the best men on this earth, his friends”.

“That’s what the president tried to say to four families the other day.”

His speech was a direct rebuke to Wilson, who was in the car with Sergeant Johnson’s family in Miami when Trump called on Tuesday.

She said in an interview that Trump had told the widow that “you know that this could happen when you signed up for it… but it still hurts”.

He also referred to Johnson as “your guy”, Wilson said, which the congresswoman found insensitive.

Robert Kelly (29) was killed when he stepped on a landmine in Afghanistan’s remote Helmand province.

His father, aware that his son had accompanied patrols through mine-filled battlefields, had just days before warned the family of the potential danger, according to a report in The Washington Post.

Kelly today said that his family got calls from Robert’s friends in Afghanistan attesting to his character. Those calls, he said as he fought back tears, were the most important.

Additional reporting Cianan Brennan

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:08 AM

    Can anyone that voted to keep this house of failed politicians please enlighten me on why they did so?

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:14 AM

    @Sean: promises of reform and great things to follow, didn’t happen, we were treated to more of the same craziness afterwards.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:29 AM

    @Sean: gravy train rolling

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:33 AM

    @Sean: very few understood the ballot paper which was very confusing

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:54 AM

    @Ross: Highly original and thought provoking.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 8:56 AM

    @Sean: That’s not what the Seanad is for and a lot of the people there are not failed party politicians at all. Which it is why it is there in the first place.
    Study up on your history or just Google it

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    Mar 30th 2020, 1:19 AM

    Either that house should be a national election or get rid of it. It’s not democratic in the national sense.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 2:39 AM

    @Laughable: We had a referendum on 4th Oct 2013 with the proposition being to abolish the Seanad as promised by then Taoiseach Enda Kenny. Only 39% the electorate turned out to vote and the proposal was defeated 52% to 48%.!

    Seanad later promised to reform … but meanwhile neither the Dail or Seanad gave the reformation much of priority as there were always bigger issues to concentrate on….

    But we got our chance to change it, approx 1 Million decided to have a say and two million decided to stay at home!

    It cannot be abolished without amending our constitution, personally I prefer if we kept it but it needs a radical transformation… and everyone should have a vote ! …not just a privileged few ; county councillors and graduates of NUI ..and of all those less than 50K even vote.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 2:47 AM

    @XvSv: And BTW whether we like or not the Seanad has to be re-constituted in the coming 2 weeks or else the Dail cannot pass any new legislation on anything including Covid19 crisis … unless less it also approved by the Seanad . Both houses of the Oireachtas must pass legislation before the President can sign it into law …. under our Constitution of 1937…that’s the reality things right now…

    So we just have to hold our noses and suck it up for now …

    hopefully this can be radically reformed by time the next Seanad Election happens ….which should be 2024/2025 ….unless of course we have an early general election for the Dail before then..

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    Mar 30th 2020, 3:12 AM

    @XvSv: horse 5hite nonsense of the highest order. Top drawer twit talk as all rules to wriggle out have left the room now and the action is a forced response to an non fiscal catastrophe which they don’t understand

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    Mar 30th 2020, 4:21 AM

    @Agenda21: your post is incomprehensible compared to xlsv although I admire your top drawer twit talk comment. Did you board with Boris in Eton?

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    Mar 30th 2020, 8:58 AM

    @XvSv: Another every person vote takes away its reason for being formed in the first place. You would then have two competing houses like in the US.
    The reasons behind its formation are still valid but reform is needed and is being worked upon.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:38 AM

    It should be postponed until this emergency is over.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:52 AM

    @Des Doran: Think.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 5:45 AM

    @Des Doran: no Seanad, no legislation, no way of legislating anything during a crisis. That’s a pretty stupid way of thinking, to suggest that we should abandon government during a time when government is urgently needed.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 6:54 AM

    @Des Doran: constitutionally it can’t be postponed. The Seanad must be dissolved not later than 90 days after the Dail is dissolved, and I think yesterday was the 90 days, hence the old Seanad is now dissolved and the count, and hence new seanad, today

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    Mar 30th 2020, 8:25 AM

    @Brian Ó Dálaigh: I think your way of thinking is a bit silly.

    Where did he say it would be shut down?

    Just keep the current members there until this is over. As they have been members for a few years and presumably been briefed extensively on the pandemic, why would we want new people entering who have to be briefed again?

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    Mar 30th 2020, 11:08 AM

    @milton friedman: my way of thinking is silly? It’s called the Law, Milton. He said it should be postponed. As it will be outside the 90 day constitutional requirement, it would then be automatically dissolved. That’s the same as being shut if no one is there. “Keep the current members there until it is over.” That’s the problem. That’s illegal and unconstitutional. We can’t just “keep the current members there” as any legislation they put their hands to would instantly be rendered void.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:49 AM

    Considering the state of the country at the moment,and the fact that nothing can be challenged, would it not be morally correct to pass no motions,legislation or declarations that are not in the immediate intrest of the state of the nation?…

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:59 AM

    It’s already restricted to a small minority of voters.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:51 AM

    People voted to keep the Seanad. You need it to process legislation. Laws needed to protect and look after us in this pandemic.So enough guff about why is this process necessary.
    Or the usual brigade of FFG 100 years, all politicians snout in trough, SF have a divine right to be in Government and sure the politicos just do as their medicos tell them. Let’s take Italy. In power some 5 STAR MOVEMENT founded by a comedian and the Northern League pursuing an Italy first anti immigration populist politics. What can go wrong when you empower neophyte? Funeral directors threatening withdrawal of services as they are overwhelmed. We need a stable government now.
    This has a way to run. We can’t have another election now given the circumstances. Each TD has an equal vote and mandated it now.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 1:17 AM

    @David Glynn: FFG took a hammering at the election because of their failure to rein in banks,  refusing to pay heroes in the HSE a decent salary while wasting hundreds of millions annually through mismanagement with the intention of privatisation, let people loose their homes after a recession by inviting unregulated vulture funds into Ireland and letting rent get so costly our youth will never be able to save for a mortgage with intentions of privatisation while giving the banks 20 years charitable tax status, put our children in dept and then hit us with the USC “temporarily”. Says a lot to see the resources, money and caretaker on show now when their hand is forced. Especially considering the last election

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    Mar 30th 2020, 1:27 AM

    @Agenda21: Bull. Thank God we had a booming economy and full employment to fall back on and rainy day fund.
    Your privatisation argument is just stupid. We have a private profitable sector and no one would buy a HSE which gobbles money.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 1:32 AM

    @David Glynn: there is no such thing as Full employment especially when the figures are false through government manipulation David as you well know

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    Mar 30th 2020, 1:57 AM

    @Agenda21: Are you for real. Anything less than 5% is full employment. That includes those changing jobs and those who you maybe simpatico with who would prefer to scratcher stay and sponge off the rest of us.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 2:06 AM

    @David Glynn: you mean the people on the dole but forced into slave labour while claiming social benefits being included in your fantastic full employment mantra

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    Mar 30th 2020, 2:12 AM

    @David Glynn: water, health, big business and property… Are you having a laugh at the hard pressed electorate in your vested interest posts or are you simply simple

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    Mar 30th 2020, 2:25 AM

    @David Glynn: privatisation = so let the public section of health care collapse and forse us all to pay for medical intervention to survive in your classist utopia. Can’t pay, no stay. NICE

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    Mar 30th 2020, 2:42 AM

    @Agenda21: We’ll leave it that. You haven’t a clue.
    No such thing as a full stomach either

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    Mar 30th 2020, 2:57 AM

    @Agenda21: Are you clueless. Nobody in their right mind would favour a public health service that was not robust.
    If people want to pay for private insurance then that’s their right.
    They do it because they want to avoid to be in queues
    You are completely off the beam.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 3:25 AM

    @David Glynn: but private health insurance should be a choice not a mandatory survival aspect of life.. Please explain to us all why we pay tax within the European Union yet pay VAT on cars and no competition in banks and insurance, would that be because the magic circle must not be broken at all costs David?

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    Mar 30th 2020, 9:03 AM

    @David Glynn: The figures are false and if you dont realise that you really believe the spin. In the disability community our unemployment rate is 46% and thats even tweaked with putting people on invalidity pensions until they are OAPs. They then stop being disabled and are just OAPS. Thats why the Persons With Disabilities is one of the lowest in the EU.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 10:06 AM

    @Gary Kearney: Up the 3% employment target to 5% in the public sector. Simple as. Also police benifit ystem better. A lot of people on disability who are well capable of work are milking the system.
    And we all know at least one. Problems with ” nerves”.
    They are reducing the pot for the genuinely disabled.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 5:58 AM

    Seanad = Democracy for privaleged.
    Suits FFG..

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    Mar 30th 2020, 9:05 AM

    @Willy Mc Entire: = ignorant of the Seanad and its reason for being formed.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 12:20 AM

    “…..about 1169”

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    Mar 30th 2020, 1:15 AM

    Screwed as usual

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    Mar 30th 2020, 1:31 AM

    Everything has changed; this process must be adjourned generally.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 5:52 AM

    @Pat Coyne: but then we could not pass any emergency legislation, even dealing with Covid-19. Our entire government’s hands would be tied and we would have no way of legally reacting to any event in what is a fast-changing situation.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 7:06 AM

    @Brian Ó Dálaigh: Adjourn does not mean abolish.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 9:06 AM

    @Pat Coyne: So ignore the constitution, do that once and its a slippery road to hell

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    Mar 30th 2020, 11:12 AM

    @Pat Coyne: no, but adjourning beyond the 90 day term limit (today) automatically abolishes it. You’ve spouted off an opinion without the slightest understanding of our political structure. Imagine if we “adjourned” it as you say. All legislation by the Dáil MUST pass through the Seanad. As these members would be outside their term limit, every single piece of legislation would be rendered null and void from this point on, meaning the government would not be able to pass a single piece of Covid-19 legislation. Educate yourself, please.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 3:52 AM

    A bunch of gombeens with there snouts in the trough….totally undemocratic…..

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    Mar 30th 2020, 9:11 AM

    @Michael Hanley: Have you ever seen the great work some of the Senators do and the causes they bring to the public realm.
    I know the work a lot of them have done for the vulnerable sections of our society.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 7:22 AM

    Is this the same Seanad that Enda Kenny promised to get rid of once he became leader of the country!!!

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    Mar 30th 2020, 7:43 AM

    @Mike Breathnach: there was a referendum and people voted to keep it. Nobody can abolish it.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 9:08 AM

    @Mike Breathnach: He said it would go to an constitutional amendment and it did and it was kept. He wanted rid of it as it had caused his government all sorts of problems by doing its job properly

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    Mar 30th 2020, 7:28 AM

    There are some politicians that wanted the Seanad gone are now trying to get elected.

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    Mar 30th 2020, 9:26 PM

    How many homes would be built with the cost of this waste of space

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