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Kwasi Kwarteng and Liz Truss (file photo) PA Images

Kwasi Kwarteng told Liz Truss her decision to sack him was 'mad'

He also advised Truss to “slow down” her radical economic reforms.

KWASI KWARTENG HAS said he told Liz Truss to “slow down” her radical economic reforms or risk being out of No 10 within “two months”.

He also criticised the then-prime minister’s “mad” decision to sack him as chancellor for implementing her tax-cutting agenda, in a bombshell first interview since his ousting.

Kwarteng refused to apologise for the financial turmoil unleashed by his and Truss’s disastrous mini-budget, but acknowledged “there was turbulence and I regret that”.

He said the “strategic goal was right”, but “I think we should have had a much more measured approach”.

He said he bore “some responsibility” for the timetable of the mini-budget, but that Truss “was very much of the view that we needed to move things fast”.

“But I think it was too quick,” he added.

“Even after the mini budget we were going at breakneck speed. And I said, ‘You know, we should slow down, slow down’.”

“She said, ‘Well, I’ve only got two years’ and I said, ‘You will have two months if you carry on like this’. And I’m afraid that’s what happened.”

Using more than £70 billion of increased borrowing, he set out a package which included abolishing the top rate of income tax for the highest earners and axing the cap on bankers’ bonuses, on top of a massively expensive energy support package.

The mini-budget triggered turbulence in the financial markets, sending the pound tumbling, forcing the Bank of England’s intervention and pushing up mortgage rates.

Two days later, Kwarteng signalled more tax cuts were on the way, spooking markets further.

Asked repeatedly if he wanted to say sorry to the people facing extra costs in remortgaging, Kwarteng refused, saying: “I don’t want to relive the past.”

He added: “I do feel sorry, actually, for the people who are going through this difficult time in terms of remortgaging.

“I’m not going to wash my hands of what we did, I think the strategic goals (were) the right thing, but as I said, the delivery and implementation, there was no real tactical plan, there was no real timetable for it and I think we should have done that.”

The ex-chancellor said he first learned of his firing via a tweet as he travelled to a meeting with Truss in Downing Street.

“I can’t remember whether she was actually shedding tears but she was very emotional,” he said.

‘This is mad’

Describing his thinking at that moment, he said: “This is mad. Prime ministers don’t get rid of chancellors.

“I think I said to her at the time, ‘This is going to last three or four weeks’.

“Little did I know it was only going to be six days.”

Kwarteng added: “She can’t fire me for just implementing what she campaigned on. And, you know, we had a conversation.

“And I think it was very much the view that somehow she would survive if I took the fall on that.”

Kwarteng insisted he and Truss were still “friends”, but said he had not returned a missed call from her several days ago.

Truss ended up resigning after only 44 days in office, with her economic measures swiftly ripped up by new Chancellor Jeremy Hunt and her successor in No 10, Rishi Sunak.

Sunak and Hunt cannot blame Truss’s government for the massive black hole in the nation’s finances, Kwarteng argued.

“The only thing that they could possibly blame us for is the interest rates and interest rates have come down and the gilt rates have come down,” he said.

“It wasn’t that the national debt was created by Liz Truss’s 44 days in government.”

Kwarteng also refused to endorse tax rises expected in his successor’s autumn budget next week.

“You’re not going to grow an economy, or incentivise economic growth by putting up our taxes,” he said.

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    Nov 11th 2022, 10:32 AM

    Remarkable interview.

    They really didn’t have a clue what they were doing.

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    Nov 11th 2022, 11:39 AM

    We shouldn’t be too quick to titter, I watched clips of Leaders Questions in the Dail yesterday, and it was both embarrassing and scary watching the performance of the next Taoiseach. .

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    Mute Patrick Kelly
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    Nov 11th 2022, 1:08 PM

    @Jim O’Sullivan: Varadakar was right. No harm giving them a shot over their brow every now and then.

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    Nov 11th 2022, 1:13 PM

    @Jim O’Sullivan: Leo and Mick use the word “sinister” a lot when raving about the opposition. Their own actions can be classified as sinister based on their recent outbursts.
    It’s clear they don’t want any part of giving power away to the opposition. Does that mean that the people of Ireland have to be happy with either FF/FG separately or together in government forever more? A monopoly with no other options?
    Now, that idea is very sinister in my book.

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    Nov 11th 2022, 1:30 PM

    @David Corrigan: Are you suggesting that the present government will do a Trump and refuse to acknowledge the outcome of the next election if SF look like having the numbers?
    As bad as they are I can’t see that happening.

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    Nov 12th 2022, 9:18 AM

    @Bert Carolan: I didn’t suggest that. My point was that FF/FG believe they are entitled to power in this country and they will do everything they can to keep everyone else out.

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    Nov 13th 2022, 10:10 PM

    @David Corrigan:
    SInister until you look further at something more sinsiter.
    Let’s skip over the Dev – Collins and start from the splinter that was let behind when Dev founded FF.
    The SF / IRA history since the 1920′s has been a war on this country.
    They were gone for good until they hikjacked the Civil Rights movement and put the north through 30 years of pain.

    There is a junta somewhere out of sight, and Mary Lou and Michelle o’Neill are masking agents.

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    Nov 11th 2022, 9:48 AM

    Mad?

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    Nov 11th 2022, 11:45 AM

    The Blame-a-thon… is on!

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    Nov 11th 2022, 10:19 AM

    Imagine rehabilitation on?check….. apply filters

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    Nov 11th 2022, 10:22 AM

    Regeneration begins.

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    Nov 12th 2022, 1:02 AM

    He should just go on Celebrity Jungle at this stage

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