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Leah Farrell

Coronavirus: 1,173 new cases confirmed in Ireland

The number of Coronavirus cases continues to rise.

PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS have confirmed 1,173 new cases of Covid-19 in Ireland.

The Department of Health has reported that 79 patients with the illness are in hospital today, including 23 in intensive care units.

Data relating to the number of deaths associated with the coronavirus disease, as well as case numbers by county, have been affected by the cyber attack on the HSE IT systems.

Yesterday there were 994 new cases of Covid-19 and 80 patients in hospital, with 22 in intensive care units.

Amid the rising cases of Covid-19, Taoiseach Micheál Martin told reporters that Ireland has been the slowest in Europe to reopen society and that this has been a “wise” approach. 

“The Delta variant is here, there will be an increase in case numbers, we’re watching very carefully the impact on hospitalisations and on ICUs,” Martin said. 

“I’m in regular contact with public health authorities and ultimately we will say to people, it’s important to get your vaccines, they do offer us protection individually but they also help protect your loved ones, families and wider society.”

Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan said this evening that cases are increasing in 22 out of 26 counties. The greatest majority of cases are occurring in people who have not yet been fully vaccinated.

“The current trajectory of the highly transmissible Delta variant across the country means that unvaccinated people are at high risk of contracting Covid-19, with just over 50% of today’s cases aged between 19-34 years old.

We need those who are waiting for full vaccination to take every precaution this weekend and to adhere strongly to the public health advice as they await their vaccines – this includes limiting your social contacts, meeting outdoors, staying 2m apart, wearing masks and avoiding international travel.

“If you are experiencing symptoms of cold and flu: headache, sore throat, runny nose, please let your close contacts know, stay at home and get tested as soon as possible for Covid-19,” he said. 

Chair of the Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group, Professor Philip Nolan, tweeted graphs showing a significant rise in cases recently among those aged 16 and 34.

He called the rise in those aged 16-18 “exceptional”, as one graph shows incidence cases rising from less that 10 per 100,000 to over 40 per 100,000.

Incidence cases in those aged 19-24 has almost doubled in the last month, from just over 20 cases per 100,000 to nearly 50 cases per 100,000.

Speaking this morning, HSE Chief Paul Reid said that GPs are increasingly referring more younger people to hospital, while there is also concern about them contracting long Covid. 

“We have many incidents where people may not have been hospitalised, but long Covid can significantly impact younger people as well,” Reid said.

With additional reporting from Niamh Quinlan.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Great result. Hospital admission keeping low. No need for panic lads. Mask on and off we go

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:22 PM

    @M. Murphy: anyone who thumbs up this belongs to the problem.
    Great result! F Sake

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:23 PM

    @RJ: yeah keep the mask and distance and for gods sakes wash your hands. It should be done even if there wasn’t a pandemic!

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:26 PM

    @Paul Cunningham: Inevitable really; its Summer, unvaccinated young population. Bound to spike. No changes needed to current restrictions.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:26 PM

    @RJ: just done from 3 devices, open up the country, let the vulnerable cocoon, nobody cares anymore

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:28 PM

    @Brian Timmons: lol, this time last year 35 cases a day. Research lad.
    Long covid, research
    Delta variant research
    Mutations where new variants establish themselves, research

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:30 PM

    @oMaraTpe: great contribution, hope it made you feel good

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:38 PM

    @Paul Cunningham: That’s a mental comment.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:17 PM

    @M. Murphy: Thanks professor Murphy

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:50 PM

    @RJ: do you want continuous lock downs forever or what? Once vaccinated we have to live with the virus. Boosters for the old. That’s it.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:53 PM

    @M. Murphy: time to do a proper lockdown and save young lives.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:58 PM

    @john smith iv: newsflash: if you’re not dead you’re living with the virus

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:23 PM

    @M. Murphy: And even better Martin confirmed we’re ahead of all other European countries and their expert medical advice. Probably don’t know what they’re doing with their antigen tests and tracking and tracing and giving people some normality back while the disease is manageable. NPHET are the leading lights. I’m so happy.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:31 PM

    @Toon Army: did he actually say that? Wow.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:45 PM

    @GrumpyAulFella: He said “wisely our reopening has been the slowest in Europe”. But the reality is we’ve been devoid of ideas to reopen in a safe way and we’ve devolved power to an unelected body that also doesn’t know what it’s about.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:33 PM

    @Toon Army: as Ursula said today, “exemplary”, in other words, an example for others to follow. What power have NPHET got? Sure we’re not locked down.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:20 PM

    @RJ: low hospitalisations, research lad
    Mainly young people getting it now, research
    0.1% of first wave deaths were in the people getting the virus now, research
    All the most vulnerable in society vaccinated, research lad

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:59 PM

    @GrumpyAulFella: I’m 100% sure that was Ursula’s genuine opinion too…. And i would imagine it was definitely not off the back of a conversation with Martin where he expressed they are seriously struggling with public opinion and the divisive policies they are introducing – they are politicians! Bit disappointed by you there, you’re normally better than that. I know we don’t share the same opinion on covid issues but always thought you were logical in your opinions still. But there you came across very naive for an AulFella. Ursula still going to be patting our backs in a couple of years no doubt, when we are back cap in hands again and the sick man of Europe.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 10:19 AM

    @oMaraTpe: you mean, YOU don’t care.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Who cares anymore

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:18 PM

    @John Boland: 1,173 people today definitely care

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:21 PM

    @John Boland: the people who have lipstick family and friends from it and going through the devastation of it care. And I for one with long covid cares!

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:24 PM

    @Richy: well for most it’s a sniffle.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:25 PM

    @Mary Ryan: *lost

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:29 PM

    @john smith iv: and for the people it isn’t…?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:30 PM

    @John Boland: Get a TShirt with that printed on so we all know to avoid you.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:30 PM

    @Richy: A family member and his close contacts at work have it. Picked up by a mandatory rapid antigen test last Monday. A follow up PCR test confirmed. No symptoms whatsoever for him or his colleagues. He’s still as fresh as a daisy with no symptoms, are his colleagues.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:33 PM

    @john smith iv: Whats most people, 51% 90% of the population do the other people not count? Have you a hard number of people you are prepared to sacrifice.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:35 PM

    @Mary Ryan: oh
    … i wondered what a lipstick family was. :0)

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:46 PM

    @Gary Kearney: are you suggesting the country should aim at zero COVID deaths? I’m not advocating relaxing all constraints, but there are choices to be made, including about how many COVID deaths society is willing to tolerate, just the same as it tolerates a number of deaths from causes such as road traffic

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:59 PM

    @Dixieblue: texting in the sun doesn’t help :-)

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:01 PM

    @a: great story.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:15 PM

    @Richy: they tested positive with it. Doesn’t mean the will die from it. They isolate for two weeks should be okay after. Stop been a Debbie downer.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:34 PM

    @John Boland: disrespectful comment when so many of us have non vaccinated relatives who are medically unable to get vaccinated and yes young . So less crass comments would be kinder but maybe not caring makes you happy on the couch there .

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:54 PM

    @Colm OS: that’s unfortunate for them but numbers in ICU are barely moving. We should speed up vaccinations. Only one vaccinated person in ICU. Then we have to live with the virus as we do with flu.

    The young want to open up.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:55 PM

    @Mary Ryan: hope you locate that lost lipstick

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:57 PM

    @a: cool story bro.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:59 PM

    @Richy: Really? Do you not know the age profile of the majority of the cases?!?!! Do you think asymptomatic or someone with a sore throat really cares if they have it. No need to get vaccinated and now will have a green pass. Some are probably delighted. The Covid parties, tiktok videos, no lockdown….. Etc generation.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:00 PM

    @Gary Kearney: most people is 99.9999% of people who are vaccinated who either don’t get it or don’t get sick with it. 1 vaccinated person in ICU since April. 1 person. Out of millions vaccinated.

    How many people died on the roads in that time? Do you want to stop all traffic and ignore the economic costs. I have no idea what you people want. If you want zero deaths or zero sickness then we can never open up because the vaccines are not 100% and can never be 100%. There will be variants who challenge the vaccines. Do you want lockdowns to never end?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:09 PM

    @Richy: why? They caught a virus 99.5% of them, if not more will recover from

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:13 PM

    @Gary Kearney: Serious question because youre all about keeping restrictions and a slow reopening. How many deaths, icu admissions, hospitalisations do you think is acceptable weekly in order to fully reopen and stay open? We’re going to have to live with covid indefinitely

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:29 PM

    @In fairness now…: maybe I will ya Xunt

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:32 PM

    @john smith iv: thankfully cars are not contagious. That’s the difference

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:39 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: de

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:41 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: serious answer, this is a highly infectious disease with potential exponential growth if unrestrained hence the fear even if numbers are low but rising

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:10 PM

    @fintan doyle: Thats not an answer to the question…. Its highly infectious but the at risk are pretty much vaccinated. We’re still vaccinating and of those that arent vaccinated only a very very very small amount will likely get seriously ill (and some unlucky vaccinated) because they have youth and health on their side…… What’s the problem if we continue vaccinating and those that arent at risk get a little sick if not at all. We get to herd immunity faster and life gets closer to normal. That exponential growth can only go so far. If you understood the reason for the vaccine and the effects the virus has on the currently unvaccinated there shouldn’t be such fear over the current wave. Its not March 2020!!!! Daily cases dont mean as much. Check the hospital figures in a few weeks

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:27 PM

    @fintan doyle: fyi the daily case numbers arent low, they’re massive compared to the start of the first and second waves. Relative to 77k daily cases in the states, or 16k in the UK, or 327k in India…… But hospitalisations, icu and deaths here are low thanks to the good work of the vaccienes. Its a shame all the constant bombardment of the daily cases and negativity in the media and the from govt over the past year and a half has had such a detrimental effect on how people view what’s going on. For some people every day its CASES, ICU, DEATHS, CASES, ICU, DEATHS….. Every day wondering what are todays figures?!?!. That effects the mind…….. The vaccienes has us in a good place, were near the finish line.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:27 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: so what was your answer to your question? When you agree that the very small numbers will increase

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:29 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: also consider that the very small numbers you mentioned occurred during our current lockdown

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:50 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: 1000 vs 8000 in January is pretty low but worrying. Hospitals are affected by more than ICU admissions, admissions and deaths. Try doing an Emer operation when community levels are high and rising

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:51 PM

    @fintan doyle: Look up the the daily cases in the previous waves and the corresponding hospital & death stats. If you think this is a lockdown you’re deluded. Indoor hospitality and non essential travel are the only thing not open really and many businesses not fully open because of guidelines. People are going about as if theres no rules and many have been for a long time. Cases havent really been below 200 daily cases since before the 3rd wave because of it despite level 5….. Acceptable hospital, icu, deaths to me would be inline with flu and respiratory figures from previous years. Maybe slightly more. I’ve posted them a few times. Will let you look it up. Nothing closed or no restrictions during any flu season. Zero covid and zero deaths unachievable in short to medium term.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:05 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: I still can’t see your answer to your own question

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:34 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: sure paul all they look at is the number of positive cases. Isnt it amazing that there hasnt being record numbers of people stuck on trollys in our hospitals since this covid started, must be a lot less people getting sick than other years or somthing crazy like that

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:41 PM

    @fintan doyle: You gain more from finding the info yourself. Its a quick google search!!!

    2017 into 2018 season…… 4,713 flu hospitalizations….. Higher end of the curve was a 10 week period with an average of around 320 weekly hospitalisations. So about 45 daily hospitalisations on average. There was 191 icu and 255 death due to flu so about 2/3 per day….. That’s just flu. Theres other respiratory illnesses.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 10:02 PM

    @John Boland: nasty

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    Jul 16th 2021, 10:22 PM

    @Paul Hedderman: you should tell the WHO about google

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:01 PM

    @fintan doyle: LOL!!! Good one!!!………I hope you are happy with the figures you asked for and i hope they put into perspective the covid hospital data relative to the flu data….. The same killer that we dont put any restrictions in place for. While cases are going up quickly, particularly amongst the younger population, hopefully the vaccienes will keep the vaccinated population safe and hospitalisations low. Uk figures show they are working there with delta. Unfortunately the vaccienes arent 100%

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    Jul 17th 2021, 10:21 AM

    @a: he can still pass it on to others.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    If only there was a vaccine

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:20 PM

    @Random_paddy: if only hospital admissions were so low

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    From my comment yesterday, some people thought my figures were off because I was comparing figures from the start of this peak to the end of a different peak. The figures below are from the start of the peaks we’ve had so far, where the 7day & 14day averages are as similar as possible to todays. The 7 day averages for all of the below dates are between 640 & 680 (apart from April 2020, 576 was the highest 7 day average in the first wave)… April 2020 spike – 816 in hospital, 133 in ICU. Oct 2020 spike – 221 in hospital, 32 in ICU. Dec 2020 spike – 237 in hospital, 28 in ICU. That compares with today where we have 79 in hospital and 23 in ICU. Thats the 66% fewer hospitalizations and 24% fewer in ICU (although we know there’s only been 1 fully vaccinated person admitted to ICU since April)

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:17 PM

    @Anthony Keenan: summary be nicer

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:18 PM

    @Anthony Keenan: So u comment on this every day!!!! Jesus wept……

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:20 PM

    @Noel Healy: No, just yesterday and then every now and again

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:23 PM

    @Noel Healy: also, really don’t understand why people are bothered making comments like that. So what if someone wants to post on an article every day. What’s the obsession with commenting on what other people do when it doesn’t affect you whatsoever.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:28 PM

    @Noel Healy: And always the same old drivel. Clearly not a health-care worker who will have to deal with the consequences of this spike. ‘Open the pubs’ will be carved on his tombstone.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:31 PM

    @Anthony Keenan: Thanks for the information

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:56 PM

    @Anthony Keenan: thanks for the stats. But as far as I am concerned, its the fatalities that really count. 280,784 people contracted covid since the beginning of the pandemic. 262,383 fully recovered. And a total of 5006 unfortunate deaths of which the majority were over 80. 1.8% of those who got covid died. So 0.1% of the irish population have died from covid. 0.09% were elderly.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:21 PM

    @lelookcoco: you clearly don’t read any of my posts…..

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:47 PM

    @Tom Mc Phillips: and the amount of people that were in the icu and with long covid…..also if there were no lockdowns the numbers would be much higher especially last year and the beginning of this year. Research the impact of variants etc., stop with that simplistic view

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:36 PM

    @Anthony Keenan: that is encouraging and shows that vaccines work. But what if this wave is going to be 10 or 20 times greater than previous waves, it seems possible to me. It won’t be the over 80s who suffer this time, it’ll be the under 40s.
    It’s a total catch 22 for government, all options suck for some group or another of society.
    Maybe for future pandemics we should aim for the ability to vaccinate 1 million people a week and hope the supply chains catch up.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:35 PM

    @Daniel O’Neill: it’s impossible for the under 40s to suffer that much from this wave as they are not as vulnerable as the over 80s were. Loads of under 40s got the virus since the start of the pandemic and I the vast vast majority of them are still with us as they generally don’t die from it thankfully. That’s the whole point of people’s ire currently. The first talk was we need to get the vulnerable vaccinated and everyone else should take precautions then we can get back to normality, now it’s everyone needs to get vaccinated with niac looking at potential to vaccinate kids.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Yawn

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:25 PM

    @Aonghus O Flaherty: Do you have Long COVID?

    https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/covid19/symptoms/fatigue/

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:56 PM

    @David Jordan: a long something else alright

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:03 PM

    @Aonghus O Flaherty: Ah have a wee nap.its this heat…

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Glad to see the hospital admissions are still staying relatively low at least

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:19 PM

    @Darren McEneaney: I think hospitalizations have increased by approx 60% in a week…so not that good really.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:28 PM

    @Darren McEneaney: Hospitalizations lag behind infections by a week or so. Hospitalisations have doubled in the past few weeks, and will continue to do so.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:29 PM

    @Alan Mulcahy: ya but its 79 out of 5 million people. When you have such small numbers percentages will always look high

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:40 PM

    @Seán Ó Briain: with a fully vaccinated population you’d expect it to plateau. We have to live with it now. Like the flu.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:39 PM

    @john smith iv: We don’t have a fully vaccinated population and we’re about 35% off that.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:43 PM

    @Sean Dalton: the figure is small, but then there were 50 this day last week, and some of those are likely to be allowed home, so the 79 today could be more than just the difference between the two. I regularly have to check my thinking when I see hospital numbers not changing but there are still admissions which have to be counter balanced by people being allowed home to complete recovery.

    Regardless the numbers are lower then one would have without the vaccinations and this is the important thing

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:46 PM

    @Alan Mulcahy: 60% of what? That could have been 6 people out 10 for example. Don’t try to scare people. 1 out 2 of 50%

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:05 PM

    @JustMeHere: yes. I was extrapolating into the future in response to somebody who said that hospitalisations would continue to increase. Keep up

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:20 PM

    I I llknow a few ” young people ” they got the pharmacy jab in the last week and have terrible side affects but the Gp and pharmacy don’t have the information to support them so refer to hospital as a precaution . We now need to know what these numbers relate to , is it people who have had jabs, unvaccinated , what’s the hospitalisation for? Until now I haven’t bought in the scaremongering agenda, I know first hand covid is real but please tell us the facts, after all we are the one paying the price with limited information .

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:28 PM

    @Damo Casey: “I knew a few people”… Sure you do. Anything more to back up your claim?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:34 PM

    @Damo Casey: people aren’t hospitalized as a precaution! That wouldn’t even happy if hospitals had beds to spare…

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:11 PM

    @Elaine Phelan: I have a family member just out of I.C.U (30′s) got his Pfizer vaccine earlier this week. They were very ill developed a blood clot. Very fit, non smoker, social.drinker. Thankfully on the mend .Maybe think before you make such ridiculous comments. By the way according to the doctor there have been quite a few incidents like this in that age group.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:11 PM

    @Elaine Phelan: I have a family member just out of I.C.U (30′s) got his Pfizer vaccine earlier this week. They were very ill developed a blood clot. Very fit, non smoker, social.drinker. Thankfully on the mend .Maybe think before you make such ridic-ulous comments. By the way according to the doctor there have been quite a few incidents like this in that age group.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:13 PM

    @EvieXVI: Read that properly he said they are referred to the hospital. A big difference. That is exactly what doctors do if they perceive what might be a problem. As happened in my family.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:29 PM

    @Franny Ando: the stats are about hospitalizations, not referrals. That’s my point.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:16 PM

    @Franny Ando: yes but not admitted Franny. That’s the difference. Many people are referred to hospital every day and not admitted. It’s a precautionary thing.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:45 PM

    @Franny Ando: yes, it is well documented that an extremely small number of people develop blood clots. I am sorry to hear about your friend. But u am somewhat skeptical that Damp knows “a few people”

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:47 PM

    @Franny Ando: yes, it is well documented that an extremely small number of people do develop blood clots as a result of the vaccines, and I am very sorry to hear about your family member. But I am highly skeptical that Damo knows “a few people”

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:17 PM

    @Franny Ando: in fact there were only 8 people in Ireland who got blood clots by July 7th, with 4 millions doses administered https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/eight-unusual-blood-clots-reported-in-irish-people-who-got-astrazeneca-vaccine-40658057.html

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    Jul 16th 2021, 10:09 PM

    @Damo Casey: I’m sorry they had “terrible side affects” but thank God they didn’t have any side effects

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    Jul 17th 2021, 1:08 AM

    @Elaine Phelan: This is about Pfizer not AZ. I would prefer to believe the doctor in question. I doubt he was lying. I personally also know of one other person who developed a clot. I’m not really interested in whether you or any other agree or not. Just don’t make disparaging comments because you don’t agree.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 9:21 AM

    @Franny Ando: I haven’t seen anything about blood clots after the Pfizer vaccine. I imagine it would be reported. Have you got anything you can share?

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    Jul 17th 2021, 9:22 AM

    @Franny Ando: I haven’t hear anything about risks of blood clots from the Pfizer vaccine. I just searched and couldn’t find anything myself. I imagine it would be widely reported. Do you have any sources you can share?

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    Jul 17th 2021, 10:32 AM

    @Damo Casey: two of my own family had very bad side effects , 24 hours later they were fine again. thats what happens. I had no effects whatsoever after each of my jabs.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:18 PM

    The numbers that really count are those in hospital and ICU, the number cases were bound to go up with crowds gathering to watch the Euros. We have to live with it, take personal responsibility and move on.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:50 PM

    @Hugh Fogerty: crowds gathering to watch the Euros? A fairly minor contributor I’d say. Probably just as many gatherings this week (if not more)

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:23 PM

    @Hugh Fogerty: The number cases were bound to go up with crowds gathering to watch the Euros. So these people couldn’t have stayed home, Italy still won regardless.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:55 PM

    @Hugh Fogerty: not really. Long-Covid cases among the young also matter.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Ahh here we go again FFS

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:15 PM

    @Stefan Epure: if they had waited another month how different it might be. Still, if pubs are happy (has everyone already forgotten how they screwed us so that we all began to drink at home and go out for a last drink). Xmas again. All our hard years sacrifice thrown away. Again. Spineless govt

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:08 PM

    @alan: the increases are largely due to the delta variant. Which is now about 80% of cases.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:17 PM

    @alan: sure there’s no winning is there.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:17 PM

    Most cases now 18 – 24 age group. Should be able to fight it off.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:26 PM

    @Seán O Ciara: 18 to 35 group. Vaccine roll out will greatly reduce it. See this chart of cases by age. https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1415948090754977792?s=19

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:29 PM

    @Seán O Ciara: They won’t be able to fight off long-covid.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:29 PM

    @Seán Ó Briain: Most people fight off long covid.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:18 PM

    @Seán O Ciara: right decision to keep them out of indoor dining and drinking therefore.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:19 PM

    @Seán Ó Briain: It’s been proven that most long Covid symptoms are psychosomatic.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:29 PM

    @Thunder Snowman: Link? I’d love to read it.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 12:31 AM

    @Nollaig Ó Ceallaigh: https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-dubious-origins-of-long-covid-11616452583

    Thats a good article by the Wall Street Journal on Long Covid in the US discussing the potential psychosomatic nature of Long Covid. Personally, i think it is too early to tell if Long Covid is psychosomatic. I think it’s probably a bit of both. I for one don’t think long covid is anywhere near as common as people like to make out and would imagine there is a large psychosomatic element to it. Also it can be used as a very convenient excuse for some people to go on the long term sickie with little to no questions asked. After all a doctor is never going to tell you that you are lying if you present suffering from “fatigue” and long covid is now a gift for some people to abuse, as horrible as that is to say. Either way, i hope long covid isn’t as prevalent as some people here like to make out because legitimate long covid sounds nasty.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 12:53 AM

    @Eoin Jackson: It’s certainly not proof, but it’s an interesting read nonetheless, cheers! I feel though, that even if long covid is psychosomatic, it does deserve some sort of treatment (albeit with a different specialist). It doesn’t seem to be that prevalent from most of the studies I’ve read, but figures change depending on which you read. Some as low as ~12%, some as high as (I think) 56%. Time and research will tell I guess.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 10:32 AM

    @Nollaig Ó Ceallaigh: yes you are correct, sorry should have highlighted that in my comment that this isn’t proof but more a discussion around it which i happened to find very interesting. Personally, I don’t think it can be proved yet, its too early and it needs further research. However I 100% agree with you, if it is proven to be psychosomatic then it still requires and deserves treatment, unquestionably. Mental illness is still an illness like any physical illness and deserves the same level of care and treatment. And I don’t think it will ever be proven to be strictly physical or strictly mental, i feel like it is likely going to be a bit of both.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:17 PM

    Again, due to unvaccinated young people, expected doesn’t surprise me. No further action needed only try keep up the vaccine rollout.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:17 PM

    And cue the “lock it down” brigade .

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:31 PM

    @David Carolan: Hear, hear!

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:10 PM

    @David Carolan: long covid is the new excuse.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:47 PM

    @john smith iv: And a stick to beat people with…

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:16 PM

    And most taking holidays in the next 4/6 weeks, both staycations and abroad.
    Remember this time last Yr 35 cases on average.
    Stay safe

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:24 PM

    @RJ: *holiday

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:04 PM

    @RJ: but they were only testing about 50 ppl a day in fairness!

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:53 PM

    @RJ: and I’m one of them. 2 weeks abroad in September, roll it on!

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:20 PM

    Get the vaccine they said

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:25 PM

    @anto: Be grand they said.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:28 PM

    @anto: I did. Got the Moderna. Only a bit of a sore arm after the first shot. 4 weeks later, skipped my way in for the second jab on the 14 june. 2 days later, broke out in a terrible rash. For someone that doesn’t even catch a cold, I’ve been poorly since. If I knew this was going to happen, I wouldn’t have ever gone back for the second jab. :(

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:36 PM

    @Ann Neylan: Better a rash than covid. The second vaccine flattened me for while. Tired all week. It was frustrating but knowing the virus wont kill me, means it was well worth it.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:46 PM

    @Gary Kearney: Gary, you can’t know Covid wont kill you if you are unfortunate enough to fall ill of it. It may be unlikely, but the vaxx doesn’t give that level of certainty.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:44 PM

    @Dixieblue: Gary has a special shield around him to ward off facts inconvenient to his arguments. No point trying.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:55 PM

    @Ann Neylan: I had a laundry list of reactions after my first dose of Pfizer and was told it was all normal. I wanted to do my duty to society and those who can’t take it, so against by better judgement went ahead with the second. The reaction started with dizziness after about 20 mins and got worse from there, including swelling and vommitting. By the next evening I was so weak I was slurring my speech and could barely lift my head. But apparently, again, it’s all normal. All known side effects. I’m still not right a week later. There is not a chance I will ever take a booster or 3rd dose.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:12 PM

    @Carol Oates: u were mad to go for ur second even with a reaction like that, where is your common sense?

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    Jul 17th 2021, 3:15 PM

    @Carol Oates: carol. I’m with you there.. Would never go back for a 3rd dose.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:16 PM

    A very seasonal virus indeed… Enjoy the nice weather everyone and stay safe!

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:34 PM

    @ForrestG45: Seasonal then explain how it is rising all across the world?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:46 PM

    @Gary Kearney: sarcasm my friend, sarcasm…

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:49 PM

    @Gary Kearney: in Denmark the cases decreased by around 15% since yesterday.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:06 PM

    @Kim Steen Hansen: thanks for sharing this highly relevant data point from a statistical standpoint.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:33 PM

    @Kim Steen Hansen: that’s because they have massive testing, proper track and trace and use all the tools available. whilst our cmo scoffs and sneers then does a u turn.
    nphet are a classic case of doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:11 PM

    @ed w: you could be right. They are almost fully open, masks gone except public transport. No panic with cases around 1000 – and the public are not as decided as we are

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:20 PM

    @ed w: Europe and UVDL care to differ with you obviously. I think she called it exemplary.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:45 PM

    @GrumpyAulFella: sounds like a hell of a politician, they have always been known for their veracity right?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:04 PM

    Little one was sent home from creche today for two weeks as one of her teachers has tested positive. As per HSE website the little one has to restrict her movements until she is tested, however myself and my wife can go about our business as normal. How on earth does this make sense, my daughter is 17 months old she’s going to go ballistic when I wont give her the car keys.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:01 PM

    @Darren Lambe: surely the answer is just to get her a test then

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:13 PM

    @Elaine Phelan: Yes you would think. But because its a potential cluster it’s not just a matter of getting a test she needs to be called by the HSE for the test.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:19 PM

    Good God if it’s bad now what will it be like by October/November? Get your Christmas shopping done now!
    Wishing all that have it a speedy recovery.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:33 PM

    @Colette Kearns: one word – vaccine

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:02 PM

    @EvieXVI: vaccines have there limitations. For one it can’t cure stupid.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:15 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: so it will be pointless giving it to you then.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:16 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: you must be on of the new breed. Make everyone get vaccinated but also ask for a lockdown. Gas stuff altogether.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:31 PM

    @EvieXVI: true, some people think that we’ll have more lockdowns next when we’re all vaccinated :-)

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:31 PM

    @Dave Harris: everyone hasn’t been vaccinated. Not a high enough percentage to stop transmission. What we are doing is guaranteeing more variants with a higher chance they evade vaccine.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:36 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: Brilliant

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:51 PM

    @EvieXVI: two words new variant

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:14 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: the variants are highly unlikely to appear in Ireland. And other countries have not been vaccinated, outside the west. We can’t stop that.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:43 PM

    @ed w: two meaningless words! The vaccine is effective against the delta variant.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:53 PM

    @EvieXVI: Israel says differently.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:58 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: really? Why would Naftali Bennett want to extend vaccine programs to younger people if ‘’Israel says different’??

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    Jul 16th 2021, 10:47 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: one article in one newspaper doesn’t change the fact that Israel is looking to increase vaccination – presumably because they know it works!!
    Again, the call from Bennett is to vaccinate more, and to encourage mask wearing and social distancing among those who aren’t vaccinated.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:49 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: so what you are saying is we have to wait until the whole world is fully vaccinated? Otherwise the new vaccine dodging variant will come in from elsewhere like delta. No point vaccinating the rest of the country if your mot going to vaccinate munster, you get what I’m saying? If this us what you believe then uts lockdown for the next 2 to 3 years, and all those businesses can kiss their and their employees livelihoods goodbye.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:18 PM

    Lovely weather

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:22 PM

    @Lets be real: lovely creamy pints

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:54 PM

    @Eoin Fitzgerald: dirty

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:44 PM

    @Dixieblue: Indoors in the gloomy dark

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:25 PM

    Open the pubs

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:45 PM

    @Fran O’Keeffe: They are open. Shut the outdoor patios.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 1:15 AM

    @lelookcoco: No they are not.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 8:31 AM

    @Franny Ando: yes they are.

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    Mute Tom Mc Phillips
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:43 PM

    Not another report on case numbers. We don’t count winter flu case numbers, so whats the point of it. Just give us the death related numbers.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:45 PM

    @Tom Mc Phillips: Yes they do.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:35 PM
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:47 PM

    @Tom Mc Phillips: Give your head a wobble.

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    Mute john smith iv
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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:18 PM

    @Nollaig Ó Ceallaigh: with the flu they count sick people. Not cases. Only the sick present to doctors or hospitals. There’s no contact testing.

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    Jul 17th 2021, 12:58 AM

    @john smith iv: Should we contact trace the flu? Seems like one of the best case scenarios for covid is that it gets weaker over time and becomes little more than what we see as flu now. By that point, I’d certainly hope we’re not as concerned about it to the point of needing to contact trace or beyond. Point is, known cases and deaths for flu have been counted. OP is incorrect, or at least mostly so.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:17 PM

    Will this trip ever end?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Hmmmmm

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    Mute talksense
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:41 PM

    @Edmund Ted Guiry: Donegal has the highest rate again Jesvs Chrizt what are they at

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    Mute Jon James
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:19 PM

    1173 cases …over a 1000 of which are ok it seems according to hospitalizations and ICU numbers …. Vaccine working well so..

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    Mute Diarmuid Hehir
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:29 PM

    We doing a great job knowingly helping create a variant that will evade our vaccines. What a species we are.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:51 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: go on, I’ll bite, how so?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:23 PM

    @DJBERMO: this has been explained. I even heard someone mentioning this on drive time about an hour ago. Google it.

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    Mute Richard Williamson
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:33 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: this may be true. However given the relatively small size of our population it is far more likely that any more transmissible variants will come from places like Brazil or India with huge case numbers.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:38 PM

    @Richard Williamson: or the UK ….

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    Mute DJBERMO
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:51 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: had too much sun today! Bit slow on the uptake. Gotcha now

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    Mute Alex Marquis
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:33 PM

    1.1k positives out of how many tested? That’s an important metric that for some reason is not mentioned.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:49 PM

    @Alex Marquis: hush now.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:16 PM

    @Alex Marquis: 129,535 according to the covid app.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:04 PM

    @john smith iv: 129,535 in last 7 days according to the covid app. 1.1k positive today

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    Mute Elaine Phelan
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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:12 PM

    @john smith iv: 129,535 in last 7 days according to the covid app, with 2.4% positive rate = 3,108. 1.1k of them today

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    Mute mark o donovan
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:19 PM

    Only a matter of time, it will infect all younger people, and country can move on, herd immunity with younger people, every body else is vacinated, open up and let it happen, any antivax can get infected

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    Mute Paul Clancy
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:35 PM

    @mark o donovan: how does herd immunity work for a virus that can reinfect?

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    Mute Thomas O' Donnell
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:53 PM

    @mark o donovan: What’s the threshold for herd immunity and when do you expect us to reach it? You have to count the entire population. Even at that , newer variants will emerge and we’d be chasing a new threshold.

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    Mute Nollaig Ó Ceallaigh
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:40 PM

    @Paul Clancy: Same way it works for every other disease. Quick primer: https://youtu.be/PSRJfaAYkW4

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:55 PM

    @mark o donovan: or just get the younger people the vaccine before rushing to open stuff. I’m glad I managed to get vaccinated before being endangered by a herd immunity mentality. The only safe amd ethical way for herd Immunity is trough vaccines

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:17 PM

    @Paul Clancy: it depends on the r value. Covid only occasionally reinfects. What do you want Paul? Lockdown forever.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:23 PM

    I’m surprised the bookies aren’t doing any lockdown specials.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:47 PM

    It’s called living with the virus – cases won’t go down .. get on with it – if you’re vulnerable or fearful, then stay home – let people live their lives & drop the scaremongering

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:11 PM

    We are on the same cycle as the British but 3 weeks behind
    Expect 6,000 cases a day in a month time, when students are preparing to go back to school
    Hospitals are beginning to fill over there, expect the same here

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:41 PM

    @Kevin Carroll: I’ve a good idea let open indoor drinking. Sure what’s the worse that can happen.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:33 PM

    @Diarmuid Hehir: Feeling particularly salty today, Diarmuid?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:55 PM

    @Nollaig Ó Ceallaigh: just saying the obvious.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:24 PM

    Free Britney

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:25 PM

    Why is there no knock knock jokes about the vaccine ? Coz freedom rings .

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    Mute karenmaryobrien #openthewindows
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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:50 PM

    No need for despair.. the vaccines are working.. case numbers no longer lead to massive hospitalisations/deaths.

    However situation in Northern Ireland is something we should be looking at. 1308 cases today. Care home outbreaks in NI on the rise. 21 current outbreaks (up from 9 last week).

    Our CMO has recommended that we avoid poorly ventilated indoor spaces. Given that most care homes are poorly ventilated, maybe the wise thing to do would be to be proactive about improving ventilation in these facilities?

    There was huge emphasis on opening windows in classrooms, but nothing at all like this in nursing homes. Why is this?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:58 PM

    Big Tony is looking anxious

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:29 PM

    I wonder if we are still getting the million vaccines from Romania that are due to expire soon

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:33 PM

    @David Lee: let’s see he death toll in these countries with high vaccine hesitancy. People need to stop watching quacks on YouTube..

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:29 PM

    making up the numbers now. turn up the pcr cycles

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:36 PM

    @ed w: ah no, facts are bothering you?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:58 PM

    @ed w: I love the stupid idea that increasing or decreasing testing, Increases or decreases case numbers. Decreasing testing just means many cases would go unnoticed which is dangerous as those people can still spread

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    Mute Janet Weldon
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:02 PM

    I’m sick and tired of this. Doing 100%. WT hell is happening….no end to it.

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    Mute Derek Anderson
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:16 PM

    Obviously they got new bingo ball s.
    Let’s keep the scaremongering going lads.

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    Mute Michael Burke
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:28 PM

    @Derek Anderson:
    Facts are simple and facts are straight
    Facts are lazy and facts are late
    Facts all come with points of view
    Facts don’t do what I want them to
    Facts just twist the truth around
    Facts are living turned inside out
    Facts are getting the best of them
    Facts are nothing on the face of things
    Facts don’t stain the furniture
    Facts go out and slam the door
    Facts are written all over your face
    Facts continue to change their shape

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:38 PM

    @Derek Anderson: R i d i c u l o u s

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:24 PM

    @Michael Burke: facts don’t need a full stop or a comma.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:57 PM

    @Michael Burke: Love a bit of Talking Heads myself!

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Oh dam

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    Mute Adam J
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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:41 PM

    Could be complete bull but I’ve heard of cases where people are catching it on purpose as an alternative to getting the vaccine, so they will be able to access indoor dining in 2 weeks time, wouldn’t surprise me

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:12 PM

    Once this doesn’t translate to a spike in hospital admissions then the daily case numbers aren’t important.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:59 PM

    Bulgaria just banned the British entering the country.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:23 PM

    Will be interesting to see how many will be calling “discrimination” now on the decision to exclude the cohorts making up these new case numbers from indoor dining. It looks like it was the correct decision again.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:29 PM

    @GrumpyAulFella: Ok, but how do you explain the logic of children of vaccinated parents who themselves are unvaccinated being allowed into indoor dining?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:38 PM

    @Kiern Mcx: I guess because in living with vaccinated parents the chances of them carrying are slim and it being the height of summer, the chances are that these children are socialising outside with other children so chances of picking it up are slim. How many 18-25 year olds are still going to McDonalds with their parents and playing with a skipping rope outside with other 18-25 year olds? In short I’m guessing that they pose a much lower risk.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:09 PM

    @Kiern Mcx: there’s no logic to it. The government bowed to public and industry pressure, ignoring NPHET advice again

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:14 PM

    @GrumpyAulFella: It is discrimination to turn the people of this country into different classes of citizen based on their vaccine status.

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    Mute Mary O' Shea
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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:16 PM

    @GrumpyAulFella: now they all seem to be getting covid they are free to dine indoors

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:46 PM

    The French Health Minister issued a statement yesterday saying that 96% of those who cought Covid recently were not vaccinated. What is the situation here?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:25 PM

    @Claude Saulnier: 96% probably.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:44 PM

    The humo was too fast, other countries have leveled out and we are still rising. Hopefully it will change soon. the are 6 counties in Europe that have not have cases rise, one f them has gone through the wave and is on the way out it now.
    Still some big numbers like in the UK 50,000 people plus newly infected.
    At this stage of the virus it is long covid that becomes the najir issue and burying the HSE in case work

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:31 PM

    @Gary Kearney: What’s a humo?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:32 PM

    What I’d like to know. How did Convey know at 3 the there’d be about 1200 cases today???

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:39 PM

    @John Barry: I heard from the checkout operator in Lidl that someone gave him the Billy

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:40 PM

    @John Barry: have a think about it.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:21 PM

    Omg. It’s terrible. Stay safe everyone.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 8:17 PM

    Meanwhile in Sweden …

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:04 PM

    @mar: Meanwhile in Sweden, they have 1437 deaths per million population, with over a million total cases, whereas their immediate Scandinavian neighbours, Norway and Finland, have 146 and 176 deaths per million respectively Denmark has 437 deaths per million. All 4 countries share similar climates and social attitudes. You don’t need to ask on here though, the information is freely available on the web.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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    Jul 17th 2021, 12:11 AM

    @Joe_X: so what you are saying is all three have very few deaths due to covid?

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    Jul 17th 2021, 12:24 PM

    @Anthony Guinnessy: Compared to Sweden, yes. Sweden went for a herd immunity approach while The other 3 introduced restrictions…..thought you knew that, Anthony.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 5:15 PM

    Ah ah ah

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:22 PM

    Are we all going to die?

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:32 PM

    @Michael Burke: unfortunately yes Michael.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:33 PM

    @OConnelj: *eventually

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    Jul 16th 2021, 6:38 PM

    @OConnelj: eventually AND unfortunately

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    Jul 16th 2021, 7:35 PM

    I dont get why they have the numbers for cases, people in hospital/ICU But dont have numbers for deaths? Blaming HSE but I done get how they have the other numbers then

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    Jul 17th 2021, 12:29 AM
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    Mute thesaltyurchin
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    Jul 16th 2021, 9:27 PM

    Should have vaccinated those that are more likely to be out in society first.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:37 PM

    Thanks for the advice Tony and Meh0le.

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    Jul 16th 2021, 11:41 PM

    Numpties

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