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'Traumatic' structure of the Leaving Cert 'can’t get any worse', says Ombudsman

Children’s Ombudsman Dr Niall Muldoon said reforms can’t make things worse than they are.

THE LEAVING CERT is a traumatic experience for students that “can’t get any worse”, the Children’s Ombudsman has said.

Dr Niall Muldoon has told the Oireachtas Committee on Education, which is discussing reform of the second-level exams, that they are placing a disproportionate level of mental stress on young people.

He slammed the government for the pace of reform of the exams, with major changes unlikely to take effect until 2030.

Muldoon said: “We have to make sure that the reforms don’t make things worse, but at the moment, I don’t see how it can get worse.

I think every one of us around this table has heard children talking about suicide, coming up to exams, and that’s wrong. We’ve done something wrong there. So it can’t get worse as far as I’m concerned. But changes have to come soon.

Muldoon highlighted recommendations made by the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child, which made “a very strong recommendation” to reform the Leaving Cert in 2016.

“They made this recommendation following a meeting in Geneva with young people from Ireland, where the committee was persuaded that the Leaving Certificate process placed a disproportionate level of mental stress on the young people on taking that terminal exam,” he said.

A review of the senior cycle by the National Council for Curriculum and Assessment (NCCA) was undertaken based on that recommendation, but six years later has not been made public or presented to Government.

Education Minister Norma Foley met with the NCCA last week, and has said the Government is committed to reform of the exams.

Muldoon said the indications were that any changes as a consequence of that document could take until 2030 to be implemented.

“It suggests a lack of urgency and affords too much time for arguing, procrastination and unnecessary delays,” he said.

He said any reform of the exams must recognise students as the primary stakeholders and put their interests first.

“Their views must be heard now and into the future, and those views must be considered in a manner that gives them equal weight with all other stakeholders,” he said.

Labour Party education spokesman Aodhan O Riordain said it was the view of the committee that the pandemic had created a “once in a generation” opportunity for reform of the Leaving Cert.

“It is largely unchanged from the time that we were all traumatized by it,” he said.

He said the model of assessing what students know is “brutal”.

“How do we come to a situation where we have schools that are absolutely failing their young people because of the competition model that we’ve insisted upon?” he asked.

Muldoon said there was an opportunity created by the pandemic, for live-streaming of classes in situations where schools are short-staffed or unable to offer certain subjects.

“There’s a huge benefit from that,” he said.

There are also students who may not be able to access school due to behavioural issues, who may be able to do it from home. Those who may have mental health difficulties or may be in hospital, live-streaming and recording of classes can be a huge benefit for those children as well.

Tanya Ward, chief executive of the Children’s Rights Alliance, told the committee that “stress is the key reason for reform”.

“Study after study, we see children and young people saying that they experience enormous levels of stress, 75% in one study,” she said.

“The principals carried out a study, and they said 85% of principals are saying there is far too much stress being generated through the Leaving Cert system.”

She called for the system of continuous assessment in schools adopted during the pandemic to be adopted in the interim while reforms are being discussed.

“What we did notice from the studies of young people who went through the new form of accreditation was that it did reduce stress,” she said.

Ms Ward also slammed the pace of reform for the exams.

She said: “Forty years we’re living through this. I had the same experience of the Leaving Certificate that most young people going through it have had.

“That’s absolutely unacceptable. Why has that happened?

“When study after study is showing that children and young people are saying they are far too stressed, that it doesn’t prepare them for life, doesn’t prepare them for a range of jobs, why are we still in this situation?”

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    Mute liam
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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:23 PM

    Historically, it was always considered notable how common it was for Irish women to fight alongside men. This can likely be traced back to Brehon Law attitudes that tended to hold women in equal regard to men in Ireland since time immemorial. Then the Catholic Church entered the frame and 3,500 years of equality unravelled in a matter of months, but Irish attitudes often remained.

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    Mute Iúrach
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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:33 PM

    It took Ireland centuries to convert, and even so they were not Catholic.

    Catholicism came with the Normans in 1169. In fact, it was a large part of their casus belli that the Irish were part of the “Celtic Church”, and needed to be brought under the fold.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudabiliter

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    Mute T Beckett is back
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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:46 PM

    What also remains is the blaming of the Catholic Church for everything….. probably from British rule and people’s slavish deference to their media.

    Firstly, no Catholic Church, early Christian Church conversion.

    Secondly, same in rest of the world.

    Thirdly, people choose to treat women in a certain way. Men chose wrong here for decades.

    Fourthly, Ireland is one of the best countries to be a woman in, according to the Oecd.

    A lot of the women and men of the 1916-1921 period were ignored by our governments for years.

    The only people who turned up at 1916 commomerations were overweight special branchers with handicams filming “republicans” while junkies were injecting themselves and harrassing people.

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    Mute Oran Joyce
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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:57 PM

    Way to go.
    First comment turns the forum into a Catholic bashing exercise.

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:07 PM

    I’m actually with Oran on this one. It was the industrial revolution that fixed the ideas on women that we have. The Church only provided a mechanism, as it did everywhere, Catholic or not.

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    Mute Mark Ryan
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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:40 PM

    Liam knew once he bashed the Catholic Church, even though he was wrong, he was bound to get green thumbs…

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    Mute James Delaney
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    Mar 8th 2016, 12:58 AM

    @liam. What you say is true. De Valera even had our fighting women air-brushed from photographs. Hardly surprising – Sure didn’t he allow McQuaid to dictate our constitution & enslaved us into the Catholic Church to replace Britain.

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    Mute Declan Madsen
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    Mar 8th 2016, 12:30 PM

    Oran, I think it’s fair to say that the Catholic church did nothing to rectify the inequality for many centuries, and continues in that fine tradition today. So you can call it bashing if you like, but at best they’re collaborators with a bad culture, but we all know they helped to keep women in their supposed place.

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    Mute James Delaney
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    Mar 8th 2016, 3:05 PM

    @declan madsen – The Catholic Church kept everyone in their place. All children were intimidated by Catholicism from an early age & most up to 20yrs ago, in their adulthood as well.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:49 PM

    We could do with a few of these determined women about the place today.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:59 PM

    Great idea, but sorry to see their partners unrecognised when they served side by side. Kathleen Lynn and Madeleine Ffrench-Mullen and Elizabeth O’Farrell and Shelia (Julia) Grennan – “Eirebrushed” our play on 1916 lesbian and gay heroes is on in Players Theatre TCD May 2-7th 730pm http://www.gaytheatre.ie

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    Mar 7th 2016, 5:11 PM

    Specifying some theatre as “gay” seems superfluous; wouldn’t “straight theatre” be more unusual and unique realistically?

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    Mar 7th 2016, 6:03 PM

    Happily not just as Irish or American is equally valid. It’s our 13th season heading past 3500 performances and companies from 5 continents who see its relevance, importance and artistic identity. Pop along in May!

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    Mute Oran Joyce
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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:06 PM

    Here’s why you’ll see these women on buses all over Ireland

    (but you won’t see them underneath them)

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    Mute Dreyfus
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    Mar 7th 2016, 8:54 PM

    Trying too hard Oran. Show some respect

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    Mute Stephen Luco
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    Mar 7th 2016, 3:55 PM

    It’s not doing Anything for Anybody. What’s the Point. Surely we can invest money in things for people.

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    Mar 7th 2016, 8:30 PM

    I’d recognise David Rooneys artwork anywhere. Stunning as always.

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    Mute FlopFlipU
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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:25 PM

    Pearce was a woman

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    Mar 7th 2016, 4:40 PM

    Mná na hÉireann…like omg lol

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    Mute David Carino
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    Mar 7th 2016, 5:36 PM

    See the pols where around in 1916 too

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