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Leo Varadkar

Leo stands over remark in abortion debate

The health minister said a grammatical error was to blame.

HEALTH MINISTER LEO Varadkar has apologised for any offence caused by a remark he made during a Dáil debate on abortion last December.

Pro-life group Every Life Counts were unhappy that Varadkar said the current law causes parents of unborn children with life-limiting conditions have “to explain for weeks and months to all enquirers that their baby is dead”.

The group, which represents parents who have lost their babies to conditions such as anencephaly and Trisomy 13, wrote to Varadkar to tell him his statement was factually incorrect.

Every Life Counts spokeswoman Tracy Harkin said the comment caused parents “hurt and offence”, adding that their babies “were alive and kicking in the womb, however severe their disability”.

A spokesperson said Varadkar has written to the group to apologise for any offence caused but said the minister stands over the remarks.

He made them while discussing the chilling effect the eighth amendment has on doctors.

During that debate the minister made a grammatical error and should have referred to a foetus which ‘will not be born alive’ rather than one which was ‘dead’. He was happy to clarify that in correspondence and has sought to clarify that matter in subsequent Dáil debates. But he holds firmly to the opinions expressed during that debate.

“It’s also worth pointing out that on the same evening in the Dail, he called for a ‘calm and measured debate, an exchange of views about what is right and wrong for women, the unborn, families and society’,” the spokesperson added.

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Grace Sharp, a mother who lost her daughter, said her baby’s life was “may have been short,” but it was important nonetheless.

“Our babies were not ‘dead’ in the womb. They were very sick, and some of them had only short lives, but they were alive and kicking and we loved them in the way that every parent loves their baby, with all our hearts,” Sharp said.

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    Mute PW
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:27 AM

    why all the fuss leave them up there

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    Mute Jim Buckley Barrett
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    Dec 24th 2019, 1:24 PM

    @PW: I think that’s what they did, removed at 8am, just in time for breakfast

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    Mute Thomas Sheridan
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    Dec 24th 2019, 1:30 PM

    @PW: gotta make way for Santa’s sleigh

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    Mute Seán Dillon
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:43 AM

    Should spray them with water and leave them over night. Wouldn’t need any so called special trained staff to get them down then.

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    Mute Martin Scaldbag
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:49 AM

    @Seán Dillon: that’s my brother your talking about

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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:51 AM

    @Seán Dillon: i second that.

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    Mute DublinTim
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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:04 PM

    @Martin Scaldbag: and what

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    Mute Mick.
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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:10 PM

    @Martin Scaldbag: Nobody cares

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    Mute Conall
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    Dec 24th 2019, 3:40 PM

    @Seán Dillon: Or just put some thought into designing prison roofs so it’s not possible to stay up there. I.e., steep roofs, roof access only possible with scaffolding or cherry-pickers, no parapet to stop you sliding off, etc.

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    Mute Seán Dillon
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    Dec 24th 2019, 3:46 PM

    @Conall: yeah good idea, unfortunately most of these prisons are old and retain the old structures for imprisonment.

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    Mute Retrostan
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    Dec 24th 2019, 5:12 PM

    @Seán Dillon: unfortunately its now considered inhumane to use water on prisoners, load of nonsense i know…

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    Mute Mick.
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:57 AM

    As a member of the EU we should lobby to be able to transfer Prisoners on disciplinary to other Prisons throughout the EU. So the likes of those convicts that assault staff, or as in this case endanger staff having to get them down, could be shipped off to a Romanian, Bulgarian or Baltic States Prison etc for a few months. A form of Shenigan treaty for Prisons. You could bet they would sing a different time when they returned.

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:33 PM

    @Mick.: would you not have Romanian and Bulgarian prisoners constantly acting up so they could stay at mountjoy hilton

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    Mute Mick.
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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:39 PM

    @Darren Byrne: There are much easier Prisons to choose from in Scandinavia. But those States I mentioned know how to deal with their own disruptive convicts far more effectively than we do. The “Touchy Feely Bleeding Hearts” have very little input into their Prison Systems.

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    Dec 24th 2019, 1:16 PM

    @Mick.: welcome back

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    Mute Kieran Monaghan
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:23 AM

    Someone should have told them the magic sleigh is coming tonight to fly them away

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    Dec 24th 2019, 3:04 PM

    @Kieran Monaghan: doesn’t take very much imagination to think up of a few ways to get them down quickly! And the specialist’s wouldn’t be needed either!

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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:53 AM

    Specially trained negotiators? I hope the conversation was brief ‘ get the f… down or f…ing freeze.

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    Mute Dan2078
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:58 AM

    They were prob just fixing their sky dish (that is mugs are paying for)

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    Mute gm_cmanning
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:44 AM

    Get their mammies to come tell em get down like they did in Spike Island way back or just leave em dere.

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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:01 PM

    Shame they were “Safely” removed….

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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:19 AM

    Why the Carolina flack comments closed

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    Mute Adrian™
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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:54 AM

    @Karllye kripton: cause she beat 7 shades of shite out of her boyfriend and now she’s being prosecuted for it.

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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:59 AM

    @Adrian™: that’s what he was into‘allegedly’

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    Dec 24th 2019, 4:51 PM

    @Adrian™: I’ll bet if the shoe was on the other foot the media would have a field day with it
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    Dec 24th 2019, 1:30 PM

    I would have used a sniper!

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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:37 AM

    ah come on , they were looking for a chimney to come down tomorrow morning.

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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:08 PM

    Another joke of a government department

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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:09 PM

    Government can’t even secure our prisons….it’s a joke

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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:49 AM

    And it’s up like a bird and it’s over the city, 3 men are missing I heard a warder cry………..

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    Does Santa have a key for Solitary to deliver present…..

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    Smarter than I thought. Waited for the weather warnings to clear.

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    Dec 24th 2019, 11:38 AM

    Because there’s criminal proceedings and the journal respects the right to a fair trial

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    Dec 24th 2019, 3:19 PM

    They should have shot them, then they would fall from the roof and hey presto problem solved and as an added bonus more prison spaces would be freed up

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    Dec 24th 2019, 2:50 PM

    I’m all for leaving them up there. Or knocking them off with plastic bullet

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    Dec 24th 2019, 3:04 PM

    Send up a Drone with a few pints, tell them it’s on the slate:

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    Dec 24th 2019, 3:58 PM

    Protest over them having to make Xmas cards for next year .

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    Waiting for the drone with the xmas parcel. I’d say they’ll be a happy lot over the festive season

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    Dec 24th 2019, 12:21 PM

    Punters Pal..explain?

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