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BORIS JOHNSON WAS celebrating this week after securing a deal with the EU but there was disappointment for the Prime Minister today after his plans for a Meaningful Vote were scuppered.
MPs voted to force him to seek a further Brexit extension from the EU, throwing his plans to leave by 31 October into disarray.
The Letwin amendment, a cross-party bid to seek an extension to ensure legislation backing up the new Brexit deal is through the House before the end of the month, was passed this afternoon by a margin of 322 to 306.
Thanks for joining us for another historic day in the House of Commons. I’m Dominic McGrath and I’ll be guiding you through the action as Boris Johnson attempts to steer his shiny new deal through parliament.
Boris Johnson is on his way to the House of Commons for what will be the biggest day so far of his premiership.
Johnson faces a whole host of challenges today if his deal is to win the support of MPs. Victoria Jones / PA Wire/PA Images
Victoria Jones / PA Wire/PA Images / PA Wire/PA Images
This morning has already brought with it plenty of drama. The man of the moment is Oliver Letwin, a former Tory MP who was expelled by Boris Johnson for voting against the government.
You might recognise his name from the so-called “indicative votes” from back in the glory days of Theresa May’s government. Well, he’s still causing trouble.
His amendment would force Boris Johnson to ask for an extension from the EU by withholding approval of the deal unless and until implementing legislation has passed.
Sound complicated? You can read about it here – it’s causing a real headache for the government.
The BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg is reporting that the day is basically over if MPs do vote for the amendment, which would be either a wild twist or a major disappointment depending on your allegiances.
No 10 plans to send MPs home if they vote for Letwin - but govt will introduce the bill on Monday
Another layer of drama – if you can stomach it – is that no one actually knows whether Boris Johnson can win enough support from MPs.
A major boost for Johnson is that the ERG seem ready to back the deal. Steve Baker, the chairman of the group of radical Brexiteers, is reportedly telling MPs to back the prime minister.
It’s something of a come-up for the ERG, who previously used the DUP as their parliamentary bellwethers – if they didn’t back the deal, it wasn’t good enough for the ERG.
Not for the first time this week, things aren’t going well for Arlene Foster and Nigel Dodds.
NEW: Steve Baker says the advice of the ERG is that the group’s MPs should vote for the agreement
Things are going to kick off very shortly. If you want a quick guide of what to look forward to over the course of the next few hours, we’ve got you covered.
Explainer: What you should expect as MPs prepare to vote on Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal
Or if you’re looking for an explanation of what actually are the differences between Johnson’s deal and May’s deal, well, our reporter Gráinne Ní Aodha has a piece on that too.
Despite nothing much in the 585-page Withdrawal Agreement having been changed, the things that have been changed are complicated to explain, she writes.
Sometimes, you’ve got to admit that you don’t know what’s going to happen.
Less than 24 hours ago, today was going to be a set piece vote on Boris Johnson’s deal.
Now, it’s all a little less clear. To say the Letwin amendment has muddied the waters is something of an understatement. Even constitutional and parliamentary experts don’t know what to expect.
Ok. Lots of confusion. Not clear what govt is thinking but my best guess: - Govt saying they will send MPs home, ie abstain, on a vote on motion as amended (assuming Letwin passes) -Not the same as pulling, ie not having, vote on amended motion. Govt could not stop that happening https://t.co/C8MqIwYfb9
BREAKING: The Letwin amendment has been selected by Speaker John Bercow, along with the Kyle-Wilson amendment.
Things are beginning now and Boris Johnson is about to speak. He is likely to be unimpressed about facing the prospect of the amendment – and of course a dreaded extension.
Johnson is speaking about the divisions sown by Brexit – something he knows all too well about considering the split in his family over exiting the EU.
His speech is significantly more measured than previous appearances before the House of Commons.
Johnson beginning by praising European “culture and civilisation” – he seems to be signalling to wavering Labour MPs that he does want a close relationship with the EU after Brexit.
Most of all, he says, his deal will “heal the rift in UK politics”
“Now is the time for this great House of Commons to come together and bring the country together today.”
“Today this house has a historic opportunity to show the same breadth of vision as our European neighbours, the same ability and resolve to reach beyond past disagreements by getting Brexit done,” Johnson tells MPs.
Johnson has said that his deal has delivered for Northern Ireland. “It ensures an open border on the island of Ireland,” he says.
“We have made consent a fundamental element of this new deal so no arrangements can be forced on Northern Ireland if they don’t work for Northern Ireland.”
The DUP looks less than convinced.
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House of Commons
19 Oct 2019
9:57AM
“They said we couldn’t re-open the withdrawal agreement. They said we couldn’t change a comma. They said we couldn’t abolish the backstop. We’ve done both.”
“It is now my judgement that we’ve reached the best possible solution.”
Johnson is telling MPs that delaying Brexit is a “delusion”. The EU, he is saying, are sick of it.
It’s a clever ploy, but perhaps not entirely convincing. Taoiseach Leo Varadkar and European Council President Donald Tusk have both indicated that they probably would be open to an extension.
“Supporting the government would merely start the firing pistol on the race to the bottom and standards,” the Labour leader says.
Corbyn is basically quoting Tory ministers back at Boris Johnson in a bid to get across his message that the prime minister’s deal would usher in some kind of free trade utopia or “Singapore-on-Thames”.
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar gets a shout out from Jeremy Corbyn – not sure how he’ll feel about that.
“The Taoiseach said, and I quote, ‘it allows the all-island economy to continue to develop and one that protects the European single market’. Some members of this House do support an all-Ireland economy but I didn’t think that included the government and the Conservative and Unionist Party.”
You can hear the wry chuckles, right?
Xinhua News Agency / PA Images
Xinhua News Agency / PA Images / PA Images
“For the last 50 years, the vast majority of the Conservative Party believed that membership of the European Union gave us a strong voice, politically, in the world as one of the three leading members,” says everyone’s favourite Europhile Tory Ken Clarke.
He wants Boris Johnson to commit to a close economic relationship with the EU and suggests he will back the deal once the domestic legislation putting the agreement into law is passed.
Instead of properly answering, Johnson latches onto Clarke’s mention of about “EU federalism” to bash European “elites” who want to create a super state.
You can see Clarke muttering “rubbish”. Also bonus points for guessing who’s setting beside Clarke.
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House of Commons
19 Oct 2019
10:26AM
The SNP’s Ian Blackford has been bashing the deal, pointing to the detrimental impact on Scotland.
Johnson shrugs it off with a mention of, well, England’s victory over Australia in the Rugby World Cup.
If you’re flicking between this liveblog and the sporting action, have a quick read of our coverage of the game.
19 Oct 2019
10:29AM
Johnson has fielded a few soft questions from Tories Ian Duncan Smith and David Davis, both avid leavers.
Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson accused Johnson’s deal of “removing protection on workers’ rights and putting a border down the Irish sea”.
Expect to hear a lot more of this kind of criticism today.
“Weariness in this house over Brexit should not be an excuse for weakness over Brexit or weakness on the union.”
The DUP are up and Nigel Dodds is angry. Yet even if Dodds and his fellow MPs speak a good game today, the reality is that whatever happens today is a real defeat for the party.
If Nigel Dodds was expecting some kind of sympathetic hearing or a mea culpa from Boris Johnson, he was mistaken.
Boris Johnson’s response is telling and worth quoting in full:
“I do think it a pity that it is thought necessary for one side or another in the debate in Northern Ireland to have a veto on those arrangements. Because after all, the people of this country have taken a decision embracing the entire four nations of this country by a simple majority vote… and I think that principle should be applied elsewhere.”
It’s hard to see how the confidence and supply arrangement between the DUP and the Conservative Party can survive this. Perhaps Johnson doesn’t think he needs it anymore (and he might be right) but his words in the House of Commons today will certainly add insult to injury in the DUP camp.
Important contribution here from Lady Sylvia Hermon, the only non-DUP voice representing Northern Ireland in the chamber.
She’s asking Boris Johnson to reassure the unionist community that “there is nothing in this deal that undermines the constitutional status of Northern Ireland as guaranteed by the Good Friday Agreement and the consent principle”.
Leo Varadkar, she says, has made this commitment. But she needs to see “a British prime minister making that commitment to the unionist community”.
Johnson says he has made that commitment and points to the fact that former unionist party leader Lord Trimble has said he’ll back the deal.
It’s unclear how she’s going to vote today – she definitely didn’t sound like the biggest fan of the deal.
Interesting comment from trade expert Sam Lowe here on Boris Johnson’s comments in the House of Commons earlier about what his deal will mean for customs checks between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.
Only if we’re intending for the whole UK to enter into a customs union with EU and full regulatory alignment on goods and agrifood, as a minimum. https://t.co/SygIWlbpaz
One important thing to bear in mind is that while the debate is providing important moments and is a necessary step in scrutinising Johnson’s deal, it’s not the type of scrutiny involved in an ideal legislative process.
If Johnson’s deal passes, there will only be a handful of days for MPs and the House of Lords to pour over the Withdrawal Agreement Bill and submit amendments if the UK is to leave on 31 October.
That kind of frenetic legislative pace is pretty much unprecedented.
For context, the Maastricht Treaty in 1993 took over 40 sitting days to pass through the UK parliament – see this handy graphic from the Institute for Government.
19 Oct 2019
11:22AM
Important moment from the debate in parliament. Answering a question from Independent MP Frank Field, Johnson said:
“My fear is that the vote we will have will not prove to be meaningful. Given the solemnity of this occasion, that would be a great pity.”
*Letwin amendment alert*
While Johnson didn’t mention the dreaded amendment by name, he seems to have conceded that it will pass. This means that he – and the government – expect to be writing to the EU asking for an extension this evening.
Fancy putting a face to this soon-to-be famous amendment? This is the mild-mannered Oliver Letwin, who told the BBC’s Nick Robinson earlier this year that “I was looking forward to retirement”.
One prime minister later and former Thatcherite Letwin is still causing trouble.
“Today is the time for this House to come together and move forward. Someone who previously did that…. was the former Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Mo Mowlam,” Stephen Barclay says to cries of “How dare you?”
He cites her biography Momentum to claim that the UK needs the same momentum today as he brings forward the main motion today.
Mowlam, who died in 2005, was a Labour Party politician and is best remembered for helping to broker the Good Friday Agreement.
Shouts of "shame" from Labour benches after Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay invokes memory of Mo Mowlam as he begins his address.
The BBC’s Nicholas Watt has a good thread on what the government’s response to the Letwin amendment will be, if it actually passes later today.
Put simply, it means that we’re heading for an extension but the government will try and push on with the Withdrawal Agreement Bill to try and get it on the statute book as soon as possible to fulfil Letwin’s requirements.
ITV’s Robert Peston is reporting that the government thinks the Letwin amendment will win by five votes.
Meanwhile, Stephen Barclay is still taking questions. “This is a deal for everyone,” he says.
Govt view: cannot stop Letwin if amendment passes. Too late to pull govt motion which by then would have been amended by Letwin. So looks like that for that final vote Tory MPs will be on a ‘have cup of tea whip’ but will be asked to return to chamber for end of day PM remarks
Norman Lamb, the only Lib Dem MP who was on the fence over backing the deal has confirmed he will NOT now support it.
My decision! I hope people will accept that it has been reached after a lot of soul searching and on the basis of what I think is best for the country and my constituents. I hope we can avoid the bile and abuse on both sides which has characterised this debate. pic.twitter.com/hH7nE6lZiU
The latest word on the Letwin amendment from the BBC newsroom is that it’s closer than was regarded earlier.
Some MPs who had been expected to back it are now indicating they won’t.
“It opens up the possibility that if the Letwin amendment doesn’t get through, then it’s game on for Boris Johnson, it’s game on for his big vote on his deal,” Norman Smith, the BBC’s assistant political editor, says.
“I suspect he will feel if he can see off the Letwin amendment, maybe he can get his deal across the line.
“If he doesn’t, then we’re told he’ll send MPs home, he’ll simply pull the vote, there won’t be a meaningful vote today.
“Then everyone will come back on Tuesday, we’re told for another crack at this.”
The Letwin amendment is a plan backed by cross-party MPs that would withhold approval of the deal unless and until implementing legislation has passed.
Labour earlier confirmed it would back the amendment today.
She says that if the main parties renege on their election promises to deliver a Brexit deal they will be guilty of a massive con job.
“I don’t like referenda but I think that if you have one then you should abide by the result.”
She says that if Labour really cared about people they would vote to back the deal.
“If you don’t want no deal you have to vote for a deal,” she says.
“If you want to deliver Brexit if you want to keep faith with the British people then vote for the deal today,” she says, to cheers from the Tory benches.
It’s a strong performance from the former PM – the most animated turn we’ve seen from her perhaps for years.
19 Oct 2019
1:32PM
May said, by the way, as she rose that she felt a certain sense of “deja vu”. Johnson turned around to her to say he knew how she felt.
Dominic McGrath here taking over from Daragh Brophy. And here’s a clip of that Theresa May speech, which prompted cheers and (the good kind) of laughter in the House of Commons.
So just a quick note on timings. We’re expecting a vote on the Letwin amendment between 2.30pm and 3pm.
If the Letwin amendment does pass, it’ll turn the meaningful vote into something of a damp squib. But crucially, we still don’t know how the House of Commons will vote – it could come down to only a few votes.
And just in case some MPs are still making up their minds, the government is still briefing against the amendment.
No 10 claims chances of no deal go up if Letwin passes - 'the govt will step up no deal preparations immediately as the risks will have increased substantially - if Letwin defeated + deal approved, no deal preparations will start being turned off immediately'
So the last few speeches are taking place and the House of Commons is filling up.
There are 11 Labour MPs who are confirmed backers of the deal. But how several others will vote remains uncertain – making it unclear what’s actually going to happen in the next few minutes.
We also don’t know how Syliva Hermon will vote – though she didn’t seem too enamoured of the deal earlier.
Labour's Rebecca Long Bailey addresses the House of Commons. House of Commons
House of Commons
As usual, Michael Gove is summing up the argument for the government.
“If we dither and delay, then I’m afraid people will feel a sense of depression and dismay and demoralisation that the parliament that they hoped would keep its promises has chosen once again to duck its responsibilities,” he said.
He is urging MPs not to vote for the Letwin amendment (and displaying a fantastic skill for alliteration).
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House of Commons
19 Oct 2019
2:35PM
So after a long day of debate, we’re finally getting to a crunch vote. We can expect a result of the vote on the Letwin amendment in around 10-15 minutes.
For a quick reminder of what the Letwin amendment is, give this a read.
This means that Boris Johnson will have to go to Brussels this evening to seek an extension.
19 Oct 2019
2:53PM
“The best thing for the UK and for the whole of Europe is for us to leave with this deal on 31 October,” Johnson says.
“I will not negotiate a delay with the EU and neither does the law compel me to do so,” he tells MPs.
He seems to have been expecting this outcome.
19 Oct 2019
2:55PM
“No delays and I will continue to do all I can to get Brexit done on 31 October,” Johnson says.
Does this mean we could all end up back in the Supreme Court?
19 Oct 2019
3:00PM
“We believe that ultimately the people must have the final say on Brexit,” Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn tells Johnson.
He says Johnson is “apparently prepared to defy a law passed by this parliament”.
It really is unclear what happens next. Firstly, in terms of the meaningful vote on the deal this afternoon - we presume that the vote on the deal motion will take place but any importance has now been taken out of it.
But an even bigger issue is whether Johnson is bluffing, pitching to voters ahead of an election or seriously daring MPs to take him to court?
There is a good thread below from Raphael Hogarth from the Institute of Government on what happens next. Johnson will ultimately try and rush through the Withdrawal Agreement Bill before 31 October.
Remember, this leaves precious little time for MPs and the House of Lords to scrutinise this complex legislation.
“There is going to be a lot of arguing over what the difference is between asking for a delay and actually negotiating one – Benn Act is not explicit about negotiation but there is important principle at stake of not frustrating the law.”
The passage of the Letwin amendment means that the Government will introduce the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill. This bill will authorise the Gvt to ratify the Brexit deal, and give effect to the deal in UK law. Some crucial points about the bill, and potential flashpoints: 1/
For anyone wondering, the DUP did vote for the Letwin amendment.
This no doubt made a huge difference in the bid to defeat Boris Johnson – something I’m sure some members of the party relished after the drama of recent says.
Sylvia Hermon also voted for the amendment – we were much less sure how she was going to vote.
The EU was watching closely anyway. This is from the Chief Spokesperson for Jean-Claude Juncker.
🇪🇺🇬🇧 @EU_Commission takes note of the vote in the House of Commons today on the so-called #Letwin Amendment meaning that the #WithdrawalAgreement itself was not put to vote today. It will be for the UK government to inform us about the next steps as soon as possible.
Boris Johnson is going to be forced by combination of the Benn Act and Letwin amendment to seek an extension from the EU. What form that extension takes remains to be seen.
It looks like there’ll be another meaningful vote on Monday.
The government will likely try to rush through legislation implementing Johnson’s deal. Whether they’re successful in that remains to be seen.
On that note, that’s all from us at TheJournal.ie. Goodbye from me, Dominic McGrath. Keep an eye on the site for all the latest as the Brexit intrigue continues this evening.
To finish off, here’s the moment Johnson lost that key vote on the Letwin amendment.
"The ayes have it"
Here's the moment MPs voted to defeat Boris Johnson - and forced him to request a Brexit extension pic.twitter.com/wcKitNbi8x
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Of course they will back it, it’s the best chance they got for no deal. After today the Benn act is no longer binding and Boris can drag his heels between now and 31st Oct on the legislation, they’ll crash out by “default”
If Brexit is passed….the UK negotiators were wiped by the EU, not a very talented bunch of lads. The US and Japan have already said they will screw the UK. Add this to a lack of leadership talent……the UK are rightly fxxxed post Brexit. Karma?
Of course they will back it, it’s the best chance they got for no deal. After today the Benn act is no longer binding and Boris can drag his heels between now and 31st Oct on the legislation, they’ll crash out by default
@John Quill: Actually if the vote No then the Benn Act comes into force. As it designed that if No Deal is passed by Parliament, which a No vote would signify, Boris is required by Law to seek an extention.
The Letwin amendment requires Boris to seek an extention if the Deal passes Parliament to ensure that there is enough time to pass the legislation, just in case it goes beyond Oct 31st.
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