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"In the future it will be good, so I won't complain": Dubliners on the new Luas

Business owners are happy to put up with the noise and construction work in anticipation of more customers when the line finally opens.

DAWSON ST IN Dublin’s St centre is a busy thoroughfare that’s home to many hidden gems.

From upscale eateries to tiny pubs, with a smattering of cosy cafés and even the Lord Mayor’s residence, it’s a vibrant spot in the city.

From Tuesday of this week, if you find yourself near Dawson St you’ll hear it before you see it, thanks to the ongoing Luas utility works.

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At a total cost of €368 million, the new lines will be operational in 2017.

But to get to that point, the construction work has to be done:

(Video TheJournal.ie/YouTube)

The works are the latest phase in the Luas Cross City project, which will eventually see the existing green and red Luas lines being linked up.

It’s a union that Luas users have wanted since the two lines were first installed, so it’s a long time coming for the city. Right now, the construction staff are working to put the utility works in the places where the lines are due to be laid.

Its intense work, so TheJournal.ie headed to Dawson St to see what impact it’s having on businesses there.

Celtic Whiskey Shop

At the Celtic Whiskey Shop, the staff were busy sorting out orders as the drilling work went on outside.

The work has meant changes to the traffic, parking, loading and taxi ranks on the street, which in turn impacts on businesses.

Al Higgins of the Celtic Whiskey Shop told us about how they’ve been getting on:

(Video TheJournal.ie/YouTube)

He added: “It’s not the worst at the moment but the worst is yet to come – but these things have to be done.”

He was happy with the interaction between the stakeholders involved in the Luas Cross City and the local business owners.

“So far it’s very good – they are working with everyone to make sure it all goes as smoothly as possible,” he said, adding that there are some new people on the street “who may be less aware of what’s going on”.

Overall, he thinks that there’s “a bit of a nice community spirit amongst everyone” on Dawson St.

What about the customers?

Jin Xu, manager of the coffee shop the Beanhive, said that the impact is “bad for now”- but she’s looking forward to the end result.

“You can see customers across the road won’t come in,” she said, pointing out the metal barriers protecting the public from the Luas works.

Overall, she welcomes the works, saying that “in the future it will be good, so I won’t complain”.

Xu also said that she hoped if the “shops look good”, people passing by on the Luas may be tempted in when the line is finally open.

Dawson Lounge

The Dawson Lounge is a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it tiny pub near the St Stephen’s Green end of the street.

Given its basement location, it’s not affected by the noise, but as barman Derek Duffy explained, the works are having another impact:

(Video TheJournal.ie/YouTube)

He said that he feels the completed Luas line will “open the street more”:

At the moment the street is basically traffic, and the traffic coming around there [the corner by St Stephen's Green] is a bit crazy. Hopefully with the Luas coming one way, the traffic flow might ease off a bit and then it will make it more people-friendly, there will be more people walking about.

Hodges Figgis

Tony Hayes is bookshop manager for Hodges Figgis, which is located at the end of Dawson St that meets Nassau St.

The works haven’t yet made their way down there, and he says that so far there has been “no impact at all” despite the changes to parking, loading bays and lanes.

(Video TheJournal.ie/YouTube)

Hayes described it as “a little inconvenience for the longterm good of the street itself”, and felt that the construction of the new line was “very exciting”.

We’re looking forward to the work being carried on to completion,” he said. “We’re very excited about the Luas coming down Dawson St.

He also mentioned how the stores on the street could benefit from the new people that will be using the Luas.

“It’s an opportunity for us to capitalise on their spending power and bring them to the oldest bookshop in Ireland and one of the biggest bookshops in Ireland,” he said.

Read: Here’s how Dawson St will be affected by the Luas works>

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    Mute Ailbhe O'Nolan
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    Oct 30th 2014, 10:58 AM

    Still a ridiculous amount, seeing as she will be getting expenses, bonus payments etc. It’s a charity, €140,000 is a joke

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    Mute David Fortune
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:03 AM

    If you want to find great people you have to be willing to pay for it. Charities are run like a business and most will struggle to compete in the job market if they’re offering significantly less money.

    You’d be SHOCKED by how few people are willing to give up €50-60k just because they’re working for a charity.

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    Mute Aaron
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:04 AM

    It’s a charity so she should work for nothing?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:04 AM

    That is still a ridiculous amount to be paid to head up a Charity…. €80K a year + vouched expenses is plenty… Jaysus you’d swear she was running a commercial enterprise

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    Mute Liam H
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:05 AM

    It says quite clearly in the article that there is no bonus scheme.

    I think €140k would be a good salary for her minus the expenses and the car.
    Hundreds of thousands of workers across the country have to buy their own car and lunches every day.
    I don’t see why people on very good money shouldn’t have to do the same

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    Mute Ailbhe O'Nolan
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:08 AM

    Aaron, at what point did I say she should work for nothing?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:14 AM

    So what salary would you pay someone who runs a company with over 3,500 staff?

    How many people do you think are out there, with the knowledge and skill required to take on that responsibility, would work for less just because part of the company is a charity?

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    Mute Frank Carty
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:20 AM

    “€80K a year + vouched expenses is plenty”

    if that was the salary cap then you would get a very inexperienced CEO!

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:21 AM

    So you acknowledge that I never said she should work for nothing, it was in fact you making it up.

    Good man.

    She should earn less than €100,000 in my opinion.

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    Mute Shane Carroll
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:22 AM

    Out of every Euro donated to rehab, how much of it goes to the actual cause after all the “operating costs” are covered?

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    Mute Brian Keelty
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:23 AM

    You’ll get a CFO for that money these days, so yes… its plenty…. If she was running her own business then let her be paid private sector salaries…. This is how and ever a Charity

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:27 AM

    If the focus is paying the CEO a competitive salary then actual charity revenue is sidelined. There may aswell be no charity organisation if it is run how it used to be.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:33 AM

    Is it so wrong to believe that a CEO of a major charity might consider working for the charity of higher importance than the salary?! It might be run like a business but the end aim is helping the cause not the profit margins. If they want large salaries maybe they should stick to private enterprise.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:36 AM

    A bit like you with the bonus payments claim but we’ll leave that to one side…..

    Shane – The thing you may not realise about Rehab Group is that it’s not 100% charity. It’s also a commercial entity through recycling and logistics.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:41 AM

    No matter what her salary is, the same eejits will say it’s too much.

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    Mute Simon Scriver
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:44 AM

    Overseeing 3,500 staff in 7 countries. Turnover of €178 million per year.
    What should she be paid?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:49 AM

    “Is it so wrong to believe that a CEO of a major charity might consider working for the charity of higher importance than the salary?!”

    How would you attract a CEO for a major company, if they are going to take a major pay cut to take the job, and have no chance of a pay increase in the future? Thats like me giving my current job, for a job where I work as hard, use the same qualifications I’ve earned over the years, but for the minimum wage.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:50 AM

    @ Aibhe , Everyone claims expenses , ranting is one thing , it needs to be rational though and being annoyed that someone would claim expenses is plain silly since the very person would be the first to complain if their company asked them to go somewhere and not pay their fuel etc.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:04 PM

    Brian she is running a commercial enterprise. It just happens to be a a not for profit in the Heath sector which is also a charity. It is a substantial enterprise. The Irish Times is also a charity by the way. I wonder how much the Editor of the IT and the CEO of the iT get for running a much smaller business? A lot more I suspect. The hypocrisy around this is astonishing. If all of you feel so strongly that the money is too much then apply for the job and when you get it reduce the salary. The reality is that people at this level expect this much for doing a complex job. That’s the world we live in. Of money was not a factor I presume that the Secretary General job in Justice would have been swamped with applications from the Private Sector. It wasn’t because they earn more than that in less senior positions in the private sector and get other perks. A grata deal of the commenting on this matter is caused by jealously and posturing. She is running a business and she is not in it as a vocation.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:06 PM

    Shane, the cause is the business and the operation of the business including paying the salaries of nurses and other medical professionals. What pint are you trying to make?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:08 PM

    Shane if you feel so noble then apply for the job! People should be paid the going rate for the job. This insistence that others cut the salaries they would otherwise get because it makes us feel better is nonsense. This is a large complex business employing thousands. The salary is reasonable by any standards. If you want to offer less then see what you get. You will not attract people of experience.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:12 PM

    Aaron, I didn’t realise that. Is this normal or would I be right in thinking that this is unusual?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:13 PM

    Frank/Simon, you’re wasting your time. There is an illusion amongst many Readers of De Journal that €100k is an outrageous salary. Not a single one of those making these arguments has I would imagine the skill set that would justify such a salary to begin with. Hence it is easy to make such a point when you haven’t worked to acquire the skills and experience and want to reap the monetary award that comes with such abilities and commitment to long up hours of work. €140k sounds on the low side for a job of this nature. But hey, she is getting paid more than the nurses (stifled sob). I would ask those making these points about a salary cap how they would set remuneration for a job of this nature in a way that is measurable and not based on envy or ideological preferences.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:16 PM

    Frank, the point I intended was the idea should be attract someone who is primarily interested in the cause and not the money. But seeing as Aaron has pointed out that this is not a 100% charity then it doesn’t matter so much.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:20 PM

    John I don’t have any experience in managing a business so I doubt I would get through to the interview stages. However with that kind of money involved and you being so protective of the salary maybe you were considering applying for it yourself? One thing for sure is however, I will not be donating to rehab again.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:23 PM

    Dee, I’m not ranting about her expenses. I’m pointing out that she will likely be paid expenses on top of an already extortionate salary. Do you not think she can afford the petrol to Cork now and again on the salary they will be paying her?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:24 PM

    according to rehab it was a commercial enterprise ha ha
    kerins still has her 4 wheel drive parked on her drive and still refuses along with frank flannery(fine gael stratagist) to explain the most basic wages they were paid
    rehab was fine gael’s jobs for the boys clinic just like crc was fine fails(I know kerins was a FF’er)
    get well soon angela kerins and hope the lawsuit don’t cost too much
    flannery rot in hell!

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:25 PM

    I agree, people say you wouldnt get a very experienced ceo and that charities are run like any business, but at what point is it charity and what point is it business? The amount of staff on huge salaries takes up most of the donations so basically they re asking people to donate first to cover these bloated salaries and probably good pensions then if they have some left it will go to the needy. To me thats just not right to use a charity and peoples generosity, people who can barely afford to give anything, for personal gain. And you can excuse it any way you like, but someone on 140g a year plus expenses and most likely benefits, is using these charities for personal gain firstly , and the needy lastly

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:34 PM

    ‘One thing for sure is however, I will not be donating to rehab again.’

    And that right there is the problem with these stupid articles highlighting peoples salaries. You’ve no idea of the work done by the company, you’ve no idea of what it takes to be CEO or whether the salary being paid is in line with similar positions. All you see is a salary that’s higher than what you’re used to and decide that it’s enough of a reason not to donate ever again.

    It’s none of my business who you donate to but before making a rash judgement put it into context. They 3,500 staff, many with disabilities who would find it difficult to get employment elsewhere. They have a turnover of €178 million through charitable and commercial entities and provide health and social care for about 80,000 people each year. Is a salary of €140k each year for the person who overseas that too much?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:42 PM

    Aaron, do you not see an issue with the CEO earning multiples of what the charities profits are?

    It’s basic business sense. Over all profits should be greater than individual earnings.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:49 PM

    Can you provide a link to show that her salary is multiples of the groups profits? Remember it’s not just the charity that she’s being paid to manage. To me this is like telling the CEO of McDonalds that he shouldn’t be earning the going rate because they also run the Ronald McDonald House Charity.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:51 PM

    And basic business sense would tell you to pay the going rate to the right candidate, who will increase turnover and fundraising, which will then lead to additional services for those who need it most.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:07 PM

    You clearly lack basic business sense. If the ‘going rate’ for an employee devours the profits, then the business is not serving its purpose.

    I don’t have access to a link as I am in work, but I believe the net profits for he rehab charity were less than 5% of what the former CEO earned. Doesn’t make sense now does it.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:12 PM

    The notion that someone is going to spend a career educating themselves, working slowly up a career ladder, usually working very long hours and sacrificing family commitments, should then run a huge organisation for a fraction what they would earn in a private organisation is laughable. It is the perennial chip on the Irish shoulder that we begrudge anyone who does well for themselves. It is this mentality that is seeping through the Irish consciousness that has been causing a huge brain drain in Ireland. No wonder Irish University rankings continue to slide year on year.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:18 PM

    And you’re still ignoring the fact that she’s not paid solely to run a charity. She’s running an enormous organisation that also has a charitable entity. And the possible reason the charity portion reports small profits is that it’s a non-profit entity with all earnings going towards providing the services they do.

    If they weren’t providing the service, while claiming charitable status then they might have a case to answer but at the moment I can’t see that they do.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:28 PM

    And I may be wrong but I believe it was Rehab Lotteries who were reporting ridiculously small profits. That’s only one part of a small group. Here’s they’re actual finances.

    http://www.rehab.ie/about/fininfo.aspx

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:32 PM

    @ David Fortune. We have been hearing this argument for years about paying top money to get top people. We have paid the big money to so many people down through the years and very very few have proven to be the top people that we were told they were. It would be nice to also hear the opinions of the people that matter on this subject, ie. the users and family of users of this service which has been viewed as a cash cow to so many dysfunctional ” managers and executives ” in the past.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:35 PM

    @ Frank Carty. We already had that experience with a previous CEO , so pay rates obviously don’t reflect the abilities of same.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:41 PM

    Ailbhe, you’re missing a vital point. If a CEO is good they will implement strategies that increase the profits made. Saying that their salary devours the profits is impossible to quantify.

    Perhaps a cheaper less experienced CEO will in fact cost the company money.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 2:15 PM

    I hadn’t a clue if this was a big salary or not so I did some investigation, looking up some salary surveys. CEOs get paid the following, according to CPL:
    Financial services 280 – 500k, Consultancy 180 – 320k,
    Retail 120 – 250k,
    Manufacturing 80 – 120k,
    Technology 175 – 280k
    Non-Profit Org 110-145k.

    It looks like Rehab are paying the going rate, I guess even charities have to be competitive if you take into account what a potential CEO could get elsewhere. .

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    Oct 30th 2014, 2:33 PM

    She gets more for 1 day than we get weekly. and we have to pay everything out of that. Hubby did the sums here and said everyone in the country needs to donate at least 2 cents a day to pay her salery. And this is a charity. Would love to find out the number of staff rehab actually have, and does the charity actually get anything at all. I.ll never give to charity again.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 2:45 PM

    Did you read any of the comments or even bother googling them? They’ve 3,500 staff and aren’t just a charity. They’re also a commercial entity with a huge turnover.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 2:49 PM

    I wish this woman the best of luck, up to now and I don’t know about the new ceo, up to now these jobs have been political appointee’s made solely on favours curried
    No experience or track record taken into consideration just the fact they back slapped the right politician at the right time
    rehab does good work now and deserves better than the joke that was the last administration

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    Oct 30th 2014, 2:51 PM

    yea compliments of the hse, instead of reading try understanding

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    Oct 30th 2014, 3:13 PM

    And she seems to be very well qualified for the job!

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    Oct 30th 2014, 4:51 PM

    Ailbhe, the point of charities is that they are “not for profit” as they do not have shareholders to which they have to pay a dividend. Hence what would otherwise be profits are reinvested. Rehab also has a commercial arm but essentially as I understand it they reinvest commercial income in their charitable activities related to the provision of charitable services hence the charities tag. Indeed the point of engaging in commercial activities for Rehab would appear to be to generate additional income for the Group. It also I imagine generates economies of scale. Rehab services via the charity provide services that would otherwise be unavailable. Charities are businesses but not for profit business and they need to be run by professionals. Virtually all problems that arise in charities come about by (a) not being run in a business like way and (b) not being transparent and (c) having inadequate corporate governance guidelines. Rehab meet (a) and appear now to meet (b) and (c). Salary is not the main issue at all but if you make it the sole issue you will have problem (a). However that does not mean it is not a relevant consideration.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 5:25 PM

    Hence why I will never buy rehab tickets again nor do I give to charities where the wage bill is extortionate!!! Defeats the whole purpose !!! €140,000 car and expenses ?? Joke

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    Oct 30th 2014, 5:29 PM

    an a car allowance as well.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 6:07 PM

    Aaron. Sorry but your post wasent up ahen I asked the question. Many thanks for the nunbers , salery over the top.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 6:30 PM

    Most people will continue to boycott the rehab gravy train as long as this continues and so they should…..

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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:13 PM

    Everyone gets expences? The only thing I get “free” in my public service job is paper clips.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:17 PM

    Why do people thinking running a non-profit is easier than running a commercial one? Makes no sense.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:35 PM

    Well really Aaron if the previous holder of the position made such a hames of the place with funding being down a million Euro you’d have to ask yourself if she’s really any good. If she couldn’t see the consequences of having such a huge pay packet and how the public would view it then I don’t think shes much use. Funding down 14%. The old adage that you pay peanuts and get monkeys seems redundant in this instance.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 8:50 PM

    Same old same old then. Won’t take her long to fit right in Angela’s greedy shoes. A charity I will never give a penny to.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:47 PM

    80k is about right, smarter people pushing this economy working for less.

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    Oct 31st 2014, 12:31 AM

    Obscene…not a penny will I give to them

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    Oct 31st 2014, 11:10 AM

    The thrust of the replies here seem to be suggesting that you have to pay vast sums of dosh to attract the best, the same excuse that we were being fed for w/bankers. Now, correct me if I’m wrong but paying obscene monies does not guarantee the best in any way at all.

    I also worked for Rehab where there are many very good people. However the corporate element are sickening and have no clue what is done on the ground.

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    Oct 31st 2014, 3:43 PM

    Promote from within and the 80K is fine then…. Glad none of my money will ever be funding her lifestyle

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    Oct 31st 2014, 5:06 PM

    Why do I find it so strange that someone who works for a charity gets 140000 a year

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    Oct 30th 2014, 10:59 AM

    Am I the only one that thinks that’s still far too big of a wage to be getting?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:08 AM

    what wage do you feel she should be on?

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    Mute Colin Treacy
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:11 AM

    A good bit less than 140,000 anyhow.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:14 AM

    At least they got rid of the bonus’s. But if you’re going to pay someone €140k they hardly need a car and expenses, Vouched or otherwise.

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    Mute Karen Whelan
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:21 AM

    Colin how about €8.65? or better still use job bridge to fill the position!

    Money needs to be spent in order to get the right person.

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    Mute Catherine Sims
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:41 PM

    Gearoid it’s says in the article there are NO bonus payments . Honestly I am the biggest critics of wasteful charitues but this woman’s salary is ok. She us highly experienced and the group have to compete with the business sector . It’s not outrageous at all and she will get vouchers for expenses but most management get those and company cars. You need the skill set you need the experience and you need to oay a reasonable amount and I think this is a good outcome for the charity and the taxpayer .

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:54 PM

    I know Catherine, if you read my comment properly you’ll see that I said “at least they got rid of bonus’s” I didn’t mention the salary either. Just don’t see why she needs the car and expenses.

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    Oct 30th 2014, 3:13 PM

    She “needs” the expenses because there are the expenses involved in doing the job and the employer is supposed to pay those, not the employee. If the employer is not paying it’s own costs it’s accounts are misleading and inflated as they do not reflect the true Net profit.

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    Mute Simon Gaites
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    Oct 30th 2014, 8:25 PM

    Why should an employee pay for travel, accommodation and food expenses incurred as part of their job? No one on here commenting on this has the slightest idea.

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    Mute Barbara McAfee
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:03 AM

    seems they’ll never learn. This is still a kick in the face. There are some President’s who are on that wage! Completely unjustified, especially for a charity!

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    Mute Darren Norris
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:50 AM

    Just don’t give to that charity, then see what happens to them.

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    Mute John B
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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:13 PM

    Only one reply for that comment comparing presidents salary: ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Seriously.

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    Mute Barbara McAfee
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    Oct 31st 2014, 10:15 AM

    “The lowest salary in Europe is that of Portuguese Prime Minister Pedro Passos Coelho (€58,680 a year). Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy earns €78,185. It is interesting to note that the official income of Catalan President Artur Mas is almost twice that of the Spanish President’s – €144,000 a year.

    Belgian Prime Minister Elio Di Rupo earns €132,427 a year; Danish Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt, €155,532; British Prime Minister David Cameron, €177,000; and French President Francois Hollande, €178,920. After moving into the Elysee Palace, Hollande’s first move was to lower his own salary and those of his ministers by 30%; Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault earns €176,400 a year.” http://world-economic.com/articles_wej-218.html

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    Mute Aasif
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:11 AM

    After everyone gets there wages is there even enough left for the people who are suppose to benefit from the donations?

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    Mute JaymiIreland
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:20 AM

    Yes because they are both a charity and have commercial activity. Rehab took the piss during the years but this is a fair wage.

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    Mute just readin
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:05 AM

    I assume because her salary is 100k less, she must not be as qualified as the previous CEO? thats how it works right?

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    Mute Owen Lynch
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:30 PM

    The last one was a overpaid nurse.

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    Mute Paudi Onail
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:48 PM

    horse?

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    Mute Joseph O'Regan
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:24 AM

    Close down Rehab, plenty of Managers working in the HSE on large salaries and doing nothing for it

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    Mute Paperboy2
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:07 AM

    I bet she won’t be donating any of that to charity though..

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    Mute JaymiIreland
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:19 AM

    What a stupid comment ? How do you know she won’t ? What percentage of your wage/dole/income do you give away ?

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    Mute Paperboy2
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:26 AM

    Well I don’t know it, I said I’d bet on it, not that she won’t! Even if she did do you think she’d give an amount that would justify them ridiculously high wages? I doubt it! But if she does, hats off to her…

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:32 AM

    And I am always donating to charity! No certain amount but I do give when I have the chance! I often do charity work too…

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    Mute ohaimhirghin
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:22 AM

    Decision to stop giving to charities justified. This country just never learns

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    Mute phil
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:36 AM

    I only give to local ones. Like the local Cancer Fund where you can see what the money is spent on and touch wood you know if it comes to your family its there for you too. Most local Charities provide the same sevices as the bigger ones but at a local level and the people who run it are usually survivors or have lost loved ones so you know they are not doing it for themselves.

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    Mute ohaimhirghin
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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:18 PM

    But of a blanket statement by me. There are certain charities that I would give to. Cancer being one as it already
    Impacted my family

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    Mute Tim Kearney
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:09 AM

    I will do it for voched expenses.. and a Mercedes 500 ..

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:43 PM

    500? Are you into classic cars?

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    Mute Martin Smith
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:25 AM

    So when will we see the so called recruitment firm that carried out the salary review for rehab be hauled in to justify and explain how they benched marked the previous boards salary.Cause all we heard during the debate from the board that their salaries had been benched marked against other charities.whats the bet we find more connections to poltical parties

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    Mute Denis Reidy
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:20 AM

    140k + expenses to hire people to do your job, is still to high. Every cent give to, donated or earned by this “charity” and all like them should be openly scrutinised. Get rid of professional board sitters.

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    Mute John R
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    Oct 30th 2014, 4:54 PM

    Denis she is not a Board sitter she is the CEO of a large company which happens to be a charity.

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    Mute JaymiIreland
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:17 AM

    140,000 is a lot of money but it is a big charity with a big workload. There will always be those that will say it is too much, but that is life.

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    Mute dave muller
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    Oct 30th 2014, 4:41 PM

    That is not life…..that is simple pure greed

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    Mute Fred O'Sullivan
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:50 AM

    No way would I donate to a charity that pays a salary of that magnitude ! It’s wrong !

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    Mute Aaron
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:17 PM

    What charities do you donate to?

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    Mute John Hartigan
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:27 AM

    Crazy money people will just stop giving government and politions are destroyers of the poor and middle class

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    Mute Tim Kearney
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:07 AM

    Hi Mo.. how ya fixed for 5 ?

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    Mute Donnacha Byrne
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:44 AM

    Where/how do I get one of these jobs for being a pen pusher?

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    Mute Frank Carty
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:53 AM

    University

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    Mute John R
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    Oct 30th 2014, 4:58 PM

    Donnacha, it was a publicly advertised job. Did you not apply or do you not read the jobs sections of the newspapers? What an opportunity missed by you. You’d have been a shoe in. You could have got the job and then announced that you were going to take a big wage cut, scrap the car and turn down traveling expenses. You’d have been a hero. Of course if you were remotely qualified to get this job you would have applied and if you had got the job you would have done none of those things. All you are doing is polishing the chip on your shoulder.

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    Mute Charlie Mountney
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:15 PM

    I don’t understand the comment about there being a big workload. Surely as CEO you have people to do the work for you. All you do is make decisions in consultation with the board, sign papers and attend events.
    It’s not like she is going to be doing her own typing.
    Perhaps someone could explain what this big workload is going to be.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:17 PM

    Charlie, you have just explained why most people are complaining about this salary. Most responding here have clearly never led a team, or organised an Ann Summers party. While it may surprise you, no doubt she will be the one who works hardest and longest hours of all the staff. To suggest they do nothing is childish and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of modern business.

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:45 PM

    100% John.

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    Mute Charlie Mountney
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    Oct 30th 2014, 2:14 PM

    I worked many years as a chef and frequently all the management did was stand around or get in the way. So instead of telling me that I do not understand, please explain what these people actually do.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 3:21 PM

    And the book will stop with her.!

    Anything goes wrong she will have to put up with personal insults, comments about her appearance and called all the names under the sun!., Just like John Tierney is getting at the moment.!

    I would not take the position of CEO of a company for twice that amount.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 5:04 PM

    Charlie, I think a relevant metaphor would not be the manager of a chef, but the CEO of a chain of restaurants. Or perhaps your restaurant employs 3500 people? Ridiculous comment.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 5:48 PM

    Ok John. I accept your point but though defending the ammount she will get paid, you have still not explained what she would actually do. Kerrins did not seem to have any stress problems that were work related.
    Her symptoms appeared when she was asked to account for her massive wage.
    So once again I ask you John since you claim to know about these things. What actually does she do for her 140k plus every year?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:40 PM

    Here’s an interesting piece on what a CEO does, from a CEO’s point of view: http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/210to8/eli5_what_does_a_ceo_of_a_large_company_do_in_a/

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    Oct 30th 2014, 10:37 PM

    Charlie with that attitude I imagine there is a reason you are no longer working as a chef. I truly tired of the delusion of de working man who imagines that everything manages itself into place, that all managers are useless and that S/he is the true hero who does all the work and carries all the responsibility. What a heap of nonsense. If you cannot see what good managers actually so then you are just demonstrating your own limitations.

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    Mute Mike
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:41 PM

    Almost as high as David Camerons salary. They wont be getting my money to fund her salary.

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    Mute Gary Kearney
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:34 AM

    This is not a little job especially now. Rehab is a very big business, YES business.
    They like a lot of people ran amok in the boom. Cash rich and crazy wages.
    They do great work and Angela Kerins in a fantastic administrator. She brings a hell of a lot to the job and she will have to, as the whole scandal has rocked the charity sector hard.
    It is only when you you need this and other groups like them that you realise how important they are.
    They do the work on the ground. Where it counts.
    Anyone who has been in the Hospice knows how good it is. If the same standards are reached in Rehab. She will be wort every cent.

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    Mute Charlie Mountney
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:16 PM

    So she will be doing a stint at a hospice then Gary.
    In ya dreams.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:59 PM

    Yes gary a big business that relies on peoples generosity. They might find they will be relying and more on corporate sponsors in the future as regular people decide that their hard earned money is not going to funding salaries and pensions of the wealthy anymore

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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:09 PM

    We are going to have to dig deep to keep these charities in the style they are used to.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:08 PM

    I am constantly amazed at the level of pay that is out there today. €140k plus car plus expenses is still ( to my mind) a huge salary! It seems that “those at the top” are thinking that to reveal such a reduced salary since the monopoly money paid in the past, will pacify the public?????? Its still a crazy sum in this economy or am I missing something? The poor consultants that have turned down “pin money” of €127k plus and a President,who champions the poor but yet has a salary in excess of a quarter of a million euros.?????

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    Mute miketrout
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    Oct 30th 2014, 2:15 PM

    I make $140k in oz and dont manage anybody. Both Mo and all you Whingers are underpaid. Shut up complaining and emigrate for a few years. Loosers!

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    Mute Thomas Mcdonagh
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    Oct 30th 2014, 3:20 PM

    Id Rather be a lamp-post in ireland than the king of oz

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    Oct 30th 2014, 3:41 PM

    You couldn’t pay me to live in Oz. Went out for a few months couldn’t wait to get home. $140K is £76k. Id rather my much larger salary in London, Oz is very expensive to live for everything.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 5:58 PM

    Yes miketrout. But you probably work for your money. I’m just trying to find out what this woman will actually do for her 140k+.

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    Mute Darragh Kelly
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:51 PM

    Stop state aid. Make charities reliant on solely private donations (corporate & personal) and I bet they’ll become far more streamlined, far more quickly. We’ll also kill that godforsaken practice of government appointed board members. The Irish people are a generous people and I strongly believe that if allowed to keep their own money they will choose to donate generously and to organisations where it is needed. State aid is a grand farce and just another slice of obnoxious cronyism. Trust individual citizens to do the right thing for once.

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    Mute Thomas Mcdonagh
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    Oct 30th 2014, 1:53 PM

    its a private company…they should pay what ever they like. Fools if people make donations to this charity and therfore pay her salary

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    Mute Tony Le Blanc
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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:13 PM

    What is it about Rehab CEO’s and really bad hairstyles?

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    Mute Maureen Stanford
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    Oct 30th 2014, 4:28 PM

    €140 is way to much who needs that much money to live . Who pays this amount of money is it the tax payer

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    Mute Frank Carty
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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:07 PM

    what?

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    Oct 30th 2014, 5:55 PM

    Too little too late. Rehab reputation is in ruins !

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    Oct 30th 2014, 4:56 PM

    This is why I will only give charity to people sleeping homeless at least they get the money I don’t care what they do with the money I give them but at least I know where it’s going. Not to some smart arse who’s only doing the job for the big salary. F… That. Charity begins at home. Not in some C…. bank account

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    Mute Anthony Halpin
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    Oct 30th 2014, 12:52 PM

    Giving someone who’s had the same job for nearly 10 years a job … sounds very Emily Logan to me, though Ms. Flynn has probably actually been doing something in that time.

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    Mute Martin Posters Moore Street
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    Oct 30th 2014, 5:03 PM

    She is related to kenny in some shape or form

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    Oct 30th 2014, 11:54 PM

    Charities are run as businesses and it’s naive to think otherwise. They need to raise a lot of money to see any benefits. You need individuals who can drive fund raising campaigns, connect with private enterprises for donations, manage large amount of volunteers. It’s an old cliche but pay peanuts you get monkeys. I have no issue with any charity paying someone over €100k but they need to be measured on it. They need to Bring in multiples of this. In any company you have targets/goals. If they are not met then there are consequences. If she increases the donations given, helps drive savings and improves their perception in the public then her wage is justified. If she doesn’t achieve any of these then her contract should be terminated end of.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 6:21 PM

    What a joke on that type of money for a charity, I’d never give a cent to charity no bloody way

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    Mute Unfortunately
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    Oct 30th 2014, 9:22 PM

    Charity boss salary should be mainly commission based – the more money they can “make” the bigger salary for them – simple. 140K is not that huge anyway, in private companies ceo’s usually make much more than that.

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    Oct 31st 2014, 3:01 AM

    A number of comments ask the question, what do these CEO’s ‘actually do?’ There’s a link below to CEO of Mencap in UK.

    CEO’s of charities have ultimate responsibility for finance, HR, policy, strategy, governance, stakeholder management, media enquiries, committees (internal and external), fundraising (in cases of charities). They will directly manage a team of senior staff most likely Heads of Services, Fundraising, Finance, Advocacy and in larger organisations expand that to managing Head of HR, Head of Communications etc etc.

    They will be the drivers of campaigns and will be lead advocates on policy issues to Givernment, media and other stakeholders. Yes they may have Heads Of many of these but they need to oversee and sign off on everything as the buck stops with them.

    They will be tasked by their boards to implement internal systems / policies e.g. HR policies, media strategies, internal auditing and finance policies and now with the new Charity Regulator they will have more responsibility for reporting on their charitable activities, costs, outcomes etc etc.

    http://www.theguardian.com/voluntary-sector-network/2013/nov/11/mencap-chief-executive-defends-salary

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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:23 PM

    I’d say the senior management who took pay cuts will find it hard to adjust

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Oct 31st 2014, 10:21 AM

    The average Irish person needs to understand the difference between Salary/Pay and Package.

    I’ve always had difficulty with Kerins €240K salary as we have never known her full package which might have been twice that.

    Its like our TDs – “we only earn €X” – all well and good, but when you have literally no expenses (even personal expenses if you are clever), gratis pension payments, accommodation, all travel etc that salary is costing taxpayers way more than it seems.

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    Mute Charlie Mountney
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    Oct 30th 2014, 6:02 PM

    Barnardos has only the CEO getting a wage and though I do not know how much it is, I do know that it is considerably less than this person is getting. All the board members are volunteers.

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    Mute Simon Scriver
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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:42 PM

    All Board members in every Irish charity are volunteers (including Rehab).

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    Mute Mícheál Sheridan
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    Oct 31st 2014, 2:44 AM

    €113,000 and you are incorrect, they have other paid staff.

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    Mute Timmy Sharpe
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    Oct 30th 2014, 7:01 PM

    State sponsored re cycling business exploiting charity status for a tax break.Sad to think of the old the not so wealthy donating money to these types.

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    Mute PicassoRepublic
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    Oct 31st 2014, 10:17 AM

    The Kerins €240K was and is a red-herring.

    What the public want to see in all of these scandals is the full size of the package – how much in total were we paying from our pockets to this greedy pig.

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    Oct 30th 2014, 6:13 PM

    Too little too late.

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    Mute Keith Murray
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    Oct 31st 2014, 11:07 AM

    What other charity work does she do I wonder ??

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