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Police release e-Fit images of Madeleine McCann suspect

Police say they will be making an appeal in Ireland also.

DETECTIVES FROM OPERATION Grange are asking for the public’s help to identify a man they are keen to trace in connection with their investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The Metropolitan Police in the UK have today released two images of a man which will feature in the BBC1′s Crimewatch appeal running at 9pm tonight.

Images

These e-fits have been drawn up based on statements and descriptions from two different witnesses who saw this man in the Praia da Luz town area.

The witnesses have described the man in the e-fit as being white, aged between 20-40 years old, with short brown hair, of medium build, medium height and clean shaven.

[If you cannot view the e-fit images on the app, please click here and here]

The sightings are from the evening of Thursday, 3 May 2007, the night that Madeleine went missing.

Work by detectives has given them a far greater understanding of the times when the abduction could have taken place. This in turn has made the statements from the two witnesses far more significant.

One of the main priorities for their  investigation is being able to identify the man who is being described.

The search

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, the senior investigating officer, said:

Today I am asking the public for their help. Whilst this man may or may not be the key to unlocking this investigation, tracing and speaking to him is of vital importance to us. We have witnesses placing him in the resort area around the time of Madeleine’s disappearance.

He added that this “was far from our only line of inquiry” and there will be e-fits released of other sightings as well of people they are equally keen to trace. These people were seen on the day of Madeleine’s disappearance and the days leading up to it.

He added:

Where we have been able to make massive steps forward is by drawing together all the material gathered to date, and reviewing it as a whole.

We continue to put Madeleine at the heart of our investigation and I would urge people to watch Crimewatch tonight and if you can help identify this man or have any information about our new appeal points please contact us.

Ireland

He said that Praia da Luz is a popular holiday destination for many nationalities which is why they have made requests for help and asked that the appeal be repeated in many different countries. He said he will be travelling to Holland, Germany and Ireland to seek the support of the public there.

“We still have a lot of material to investigate and much work to do. Your information could be the vital piece we need to finally answer what happened to Madeleine,” he said.

Anyone with any information is asked to call the incident room on 0800 096 1011, if you are UK based. If based outside the UK please call +4420 7158 0126, or email operation.grange@met.police.uk

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    Mute Casey
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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:58 AM

    Why did it take 6 years to get these e-fits?

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    Mute B9xiRspG
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:04 AM

    Exactly and think about it, could you describe that guy standing next to you in the pub last week? Not a hope so 6 years on, they might as well pull images out of Google Image search.

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    Mute Casey
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:23 AM

    There was a lad in my school called E Fitz. I could describe him.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:31 AM

    http://whathappenedtomadeleinemccann.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/open-letter-re-proposed-crimewatch.html?spref=tw

    Someone else posted this on another thread – its an open letter from a superintendent to the BBC – interesting alternate point of view.

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    Mute Aaron
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:48 AM

    Because the last two e-fits have been proven to come from false information given by a witness within the group

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:51 AM

    Did that show go ahead btw? The reconstruction that the man wrote about?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:59 AM

    I think it’s the one due to be aired this evening – but I could be wrong..

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    Mute Angela Kelly
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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:06 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4wVANuNRY

    Everybody needs to see this. Thanks to Valerie Judge for finding it

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    Mute Little Jim
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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:43 AM

    Angela, why did I need to see that video?
    Seriously.

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    Mute Dave Murray
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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:04 AM

    Thanks Angela.
    I think this whole E-Fit thing is absolute bulIshit – to anyone who has read any detail on this case, it is pretty clear the “abduction” story doesn’t add up at all.
    I have read 2 independent case studies into this and this “abduction” suddenly became political at the moment Gordon Brown, the McCanns’ fellow countryman and then UK PM, got involved.

    Oh yeah, they made double sure the E-Fit didn’t look anything like Gerry McCann, didn’t they?

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    Mute MonaghanRichie
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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:07 AM

    Please God Madeline will be found safe & put an end to this terrible nightmare for Her Family.

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    Mute Gaa Nut
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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:22 AM

    While I hope the poor girl is found safe and alive. Surely her parents have some questions to answer as to why she was left alone in an apartment in a foreign country for so long…I would have thought that has to be some form of neglect? As I said though hopefully she’s found

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:26 AM

    “Surely they have some questions to answer”?? Do you think they haven’t been judged, asked themselves that question over and over every second of every day of every year she’s been missing?? They made a horrible mistake in thinking that checking up on them every 20min was enough and they’ll know that for the rest of their lives and never forgive themselves. What a dick of a comment.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:28 AM

    Kate McCann was asked 48 questions and all she had to say for herself was “no comment”.

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    Mute Sean Armstrong
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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:29 AM

    Give it a rest and come back to us when you’ve had a kid

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    Mute Michelle Mc Loughney
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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:32 AM

    I hope there is a resolution in this case. And all others. Other families of missing children must feel somewhat forgotten in the media.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:35 AM

    It’s not a dick comment. It was a question. It may be an uneasy or unpopular question to ask but it’s one that should be asked. If you or I left a child alone at home and god forbid something were to happen to them we would be accountable for what would be a form of neglect to that child. I just think they have questions to answer with regards to that.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:57 AM

    @gaaa…they have been asked that, judged because of that, cried openly about that and now live with that….every day of their lives! You are asking a question that was answered many many times. Fool.

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    Mute Amy gaffney
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:01 AM

    I’d love to see her returned safe as everyone does, but questions have to be answered. Some of which are why the McCanns have so much pull that their child gets 100x the media attention and police resources of any other missing child, why they wouldn’t answer difficult questions, why their stories changed and why the cops have never done anything about that. No harm in asking the questions if there’s innocent answers to them surely?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:01 AM

    Gaa Nut – you are dead right, they left a three year old and twins one year old in a room on their own while they went off to have a nice evening meal.

    Like it or not they should have been charged because with some common sense this could all have been avoided.

    Just think what Madeleine must have gone through because of their selfish act.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:06 AM

    If that little girl had been born in a council estate, with unemployed parents instead of attractive wealthy doctors…the parents would have been charged with child neglect. It strikes me as odd why the mother would repeatedly answer ‘no comment’ to almost 40 questions when interviewed by police. As for the photos released, they look like the sky news reporter.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:27 AM

    The one on the right looks like that BBC impersonator chap doing Gary Lineker (not Rob Brydon). And the one on the left looks like someone else famous that I can’t quite put my finger on.

    I have not followed the story of the parents with much interest, but as a pair of educated people you would have thought at least one of them would have known better than to leave their child unattended in a strange country..
    They may well kick themselves over their error – but I can’t see anyone I know who has kids doing this.. It is literally asking for trouble – no matter how many times you vow to go and check (because we all know full well that you mean to check every half hour, but in reality – it’s whenever there’s sufficient lull in the conversation, and that doesn’t happen on a timer).

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:32 AM

    Amy you are not being unreasonable. Apparently they refused to do a reconstruction for the Portuguese police in the weeks after she went missing, and on the first anniversary, but now have assisted one which is filmed in Spain.
    I am looking forward to seeing this new timeline they are talking about, since the existing timeline is based on the statements the MCCann group made to the police, all available to be read on http://www.mccannfiles.com.
    This case has mystified me from the beginning, as I know Luz and the are very well and a lot of the statements and subsequent media reports simply don’t make sense.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:41 AM

    I think that 6 years down the line the accusations and blaming should stop. The parents have been through enough. They’ve recognised the mistake, they’ve had to face accusations of murdering thier own child. They should not have left those children alone, of course, they did and have paid the ultimate price for it.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:43 AM

    I don’t really buy into the class warfare explanation. It’s a lot stranger than that. Middle class families in England are definitely not immune to the attentions of the police and social services – google the Sally Clarke case for one.

    I’d be more inclined to ask questions about how it was that Gerry McCann was able to have multiple personal conversations with the Foreign Secretary, David Miliband, and why Gordon Brown intervened in the investigation at the behest of the McCanns and against the advice of the Portuguese police. The McCanns were card-carrying members of the Labour Party, & Gerry was being touted as a possible candidate. This may be a coincidence, of course. There seem to be lots of those.

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    Mute Michelle Mc Loughney
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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:00 AM

    Their daughter paid the ultimate price IMO.

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    Mute Fiona Byrne
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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:07 AM

    That’s true. I think as a parent, part of me just can’t believe that they would bring this little girl to harm. I don’t know. I still think I won’t be casting any stones yet.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:44 AM

    Fiona, I agree.

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    Mute May June
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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:48 AM

    So why did they refuse to answer questions? Pitch a fit when the cadaver dog alerted? Spend so much on taking people to court ?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:48 AM

    @Valerie
    It was their companions at the tapas bar that refused to take part in a reconstruction, the reason being that the reconstruction wasn’t going to be televised so they didn’t see the point.

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:02 AM

    The children were sedated to keep them asleep while the McCanns had dinner with their friends. Kate McCann admitted that. Some mistake!
    And tell me, why would anyone haul a child out a bedroom window when there was a perfectly usable patio door (which was screened by bushes so not visible from the McCanns’ table in the tapas bar?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:05 AM

    Amy, see my post somewhere else on this thread. Gerry McCann was being tipped to run for Parliament for Labour while Labour was in government.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:07 AM

    Partly, Mattoid. But Gerry McCann refused to take part also.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:58 AM

    Leaving children unattended to enjoy the finer things in life & the sixth night is a horrible mistake? I think not. There are so many unanswered questions in this case, 48 to start with!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 2:45 PM

    I think for two such highly educated individuals it was an awful stupid thing to do. They had a nanny in the UK why didnt they bring her with them. The reason they gave for not using the babysitting service available at their apartments is that htey didnt want to leave thier kids with strangers. However lets not forget this couple were one of many together who left all their children alone. They supposedly took turns checking on them. There was what 8+ people and it just happened to be the parents who discovered her missing not one of the other many trips by someone else. There are far too many holes in this story it is beyond strange. I personally found in their interviews that they were both emotionless. I know people are told not to cry if they can help it in press conferences but these two seemed almost numb to emotion. I also found Gerry to almost nudge Kate when she was asked questions in interviews he alwasy commanded the stage in public.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:44 AM

    This might be a daft question, but are they two e-fits of the same man? Because they look nothing alike. I wouldn’t be very hopeful of identifying someone whose appearance was somewhere between the two.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:48 AM

    Jane, looks like it’s the same man but two different witness description. Couldn’t be further apart really.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:52 AM

    That’s what I figured, Michelle. Don’t want to be a downer, but they don’t look like much use to me.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:01 AM

    Jane, the problem with witness descriptions is that if there were 10 different witness’s to a crime you will probably get 10 different versions of events. The 2 images that you see may look like 2 different men but may act as a visual aid to jog the memory of someone who was there at the time. Something which may have been overlooked or disregarded by a witness as not being important might come back to them. It could be a fleeting glance or maybe someone bumped into them but the witness didn’t take any notice of it at the time. Now by issuing these photos that chance encounter might come back to them and might even stir up other memories of the day.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:04 AM

    I hope so, Brian :)

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    Mute MB
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:10 AM

    Jane, are u thick?

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    Mute Alan Burke
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:13 AM

    MB can you clarify?

    Jane asked a valid question.

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    Mute MB
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:19 AM

    Clarify wha? That she’s thick?

    Speaks for itself.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:27 AM

    Jane is a regualar contributor on here and while people may disagree with her she always presents an informed, well written argument.

    Yours is badly spelled, misinformed and contributes nothing.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:28 AM

    Ooh someone got out of bed on the wrong side this morning !

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    Mute Angela Kelly
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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:30 AM

    @MB The lady in question seems quite intellectual and articulate actually. You on the other hand seem like a lonely, insecure, intellectually challenged, attention seeking, “durtbird” raised in a gutter by some sort of bacteria that has yet to be studied extensively. You are making a fool of yourself, I know you think you are somewhat amusing and that by ‘abusing’ strangers on a screen you are getting attention…but you just come across as foolish.

    @Alan Burke Is that the correct use of the word “durtbird”?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:32 AM

    Well said Alan . MB is just plain rude.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:42 AM

    Angela that is the correct usage

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:46 AM

    MB what Jane said is that the two efits , that are supposed to help and find the alleged suspect, are in fact not very helpfull as they look like two different men.
    Thick is the one who can’t see that, read You

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:52 AM

    Feeding the trolls folks!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:57 AM

    Well said Alan. An apology is warranted.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:14 AM

    What kind of a comment is that. Don’t be so bloody rude.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:45 AM

    Have a little respect, MB, if not for yourself then forJane. Your comments say more about you than about Jane. If you can’t make a constructive criticism then maybe don’t bother posting at all.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:49 AM

    Quite right, Fergal!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:49 AM

    Jane you asked the question I asked myself. One seems to be thinner than the other.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:37 PM

    Good grief. I wander away from the Journal for a few hours, and look what happens!

    Thanks to all who defended my intellectual virtue. ;)

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    Mute MB
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    Oct 14th 2013, 2:01 PM

    Bacteria, jeez, that was unwarranted.

    Does your language not demonstrate your intellect more than mine?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 2:05 PM

    And Jane, consider me chastised, I offer a sincere apology, to you personally, no one else.

    P.s This thread is a serious thread, and throwing insults is unwarranted, mine included.

    Madeline McCann is still missing, and while I lowered the tone, I think it was lowered further by other contributions.

    Oh and ps. I dont hide behind a screen, cant you see my name on my Twitter. Msg me privately.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 2:18 PM

    The bacteria bit was funny though. You wouldn’t believe how happy it makes me to see someone else getting a bollocking on the journal, journal butt hurt is the worst;)

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    Oct 14th 2013, 2:23 PM

    @Michelle, I deserved it. I did get outa bed the wrong side.

    Thankfully I can see the error of my ways, some others however, have bully tendencies. Those individuals have pack mentalities, and I will reiterate, their comments say more about them than me.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 3:07 PM

    You attacked people for no reason other than you are an insecure attention seeker, you are the only ‘bully’ here, and a rather irritating one at that. Nobody cares what you have to contribute, bacteria was being rather polite. Your retorts are equally pathetic, go back in your box.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 3:27 PM

    MB you really shouldn’t give it if you can take it !! No point in getting all insulted after you started the insulting !!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 4:17 PM

    MB, I don’t take insults levelled against me on the Journal seriously – if I did, I’d never post again!

    Your apology is appreciated, though. I think we should all drop it now and get back to the issue at hand – that of searching for Maddie’s captors.

    As many other commenters realised, all I was trying to do was draw attention to the discrepancies between the two e-fit images above and get a dialogue going that might be useful or at least interesting.

    Unfortunately I wound up being really busy today and didn’t have a chance to follow up on what I’d started.

    So – let’s all drop it, ok? :)

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    Oct 14th 2013, 4:42 PM

    Oh Angela, Angela, Angela, you do have a way with words ;-)

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    Oct 14th 2013, 4:46 PM

    Lauren, who said I was insulted?

    And believe me I can take it when it is due; however, the vitriolic tone of certain people leaves a lot to be desired…

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    Oct 15th 2013, 12:58 AM

    I thought they were looking for 2 men

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    Oct 15th 2013, 1:01 AM

    Ouch,,,,,oh boy, wow !!! What a retort

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:29 AM

    If Maddy is found alive and well, it will be a modern day miracle.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:45 AM

    Sean I have too agree with gaa nut. I have young children and there is no chance I would leave them alone in an apartment while I eat and drink nearby. A lot can happen in 20mins. Bottom floor apartment too. I truly feel for that family. Negligence was the main factor in play here.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:26 AM

    Looks just like her Dad!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:29 AM

    The description given matches him startingly well as well…

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:38 AM

    Of course it does. It matches about half of the men in Europe.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:49 AM

    That was my first thought, it could easily be a pic of Gerry McCann

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:50 AM

    Just what I thought though the nose is all wrong.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:16 AM

    Aged between 20-40, broad age range!!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:08 AM

    “The man they want to contact is described as white, aged between 20 and 40 years old, with short brown hair, of medium build, medium height and clean shaven.”

    Well, that narrows it down.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 3:14 PM

    Could be me. Could probably be you too, and half the people commenting here.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:30 AM

    It looks like Joey Jones, the Sky News correspondant

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:14 AM

    Burley will be frothing in the frenzy!!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:46 AM

    If people took the time to educate themselves on the actual facts of this case it would soon become clear that the abduction theory is bull. The parents did it. A corpse dog responsible for solving over 200 crimes indicated 2 places in their apartment, it was brought to other apts no indication. Same thing with their car, random cars no indication, their car the dog goes mental. The police video of the actual event is available on YouTube. Kate refused to answer police questions. Just 2 examples of many.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:17 PM

    I said already that I had little knowledge of the case – I always thought the leaving her alone was dodgy enough.. I didn’t realise there was other kids and I only just found out about the drugs and unlocked door since yesterday.. If anything it would make me more skeptical – and that’s before dogs and refusing to answer questions comes into the equation..

    I’m still trying to come to terms with the fact they drugged the kids.. People were up in arms about a cat being given unnecessary sedation under close supervision by a vet – but drugging your kids and leaving them alone in an unlocked room in a holiday resort to disappear is just.. I don’t know, I can’t view that as ok.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 2:34 PM

    I don’t think that there is any proof that they drugged the children. In fact they have consistently denied that they gave them anything to help the sleep. They were confident that the kids were good sleepers and in fact the twins continued to sleep right through all the noise when they all went to the apartment and searched in it for madeleine, then stayed in it while they waited for police etc.
    They have confirmed though that the patio door was open.
    All the families left their children in their apartments and they went up every so often to check on them, though accounts of who and when and whether they went into the apts and actually saw the children, or not, vary. One family had a child monitor.
    Just to set the record straight, the facts as the McCann have stated them is that they left the three kids asleep in the apartment with the patio door open. To get to where the McCann were dining meant going down steps, onto the public road, down about 50 yards, in through a reception area and then another 50 metres or so along the poolside,into an area which was screened off by heavy plastic sheeting because of the cold/ wind. From that area you can see the top of the patio door, though not sure how clearly on the dark.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 4:23 PM

    So anyone could have easily gone in the door and taken a child. Or a child could have wandered out. There is a mystery about whether the window and shutters were actually open or not. First they said the window was open, then when it was proven that the shutters could not be opened from the outside, later on they said they’d left the door open. Maybe they were embarrassed about that, ie leaving the door open. In any event, the key thing is that the door was open and anyone watching would have realised that.

    Hopefully the police will soon resolve this tragedy and everyone affected can move on.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:56 AM

    The McCanns seen to have been helped – to say the least – right from the top of the establishment in Britain from the moment Madeleine went missing.
    Is it a coincidence that he was deeply involved in the Labour party and was tipped to run for Labour at the next election? The level of support they received on a diplomatic, political and legal level was extraordinary even considering that both were high profile doctors.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:09 AM

    Like it or not Mary, that’s how the world works. I’m not saying its right, but if you have political connections you’ll get favourable treatment.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:15 PM

    I have no.problem with high profile people being helped by their country of origin. I do have a problem with what seems to have been interference with a police investigation in a different jurisdiction, diplomatic and political. The McCanns have a lot of questions to answer which they refused to do during the investigation.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:24 PM

    Mary the UK police weren’t permitted to speak about this case while the portuguese investigation was ongoing.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:14 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf4wVANuNRY is a report from the US that you are unlikely to see in these islands. Interesting contrast in the emphasis.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:18 AM

    Sums up how I feel about this case.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:59 AM

    Wow that was eye opening

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:02 AM

    It will be interesting to see if the BBC present a balanced view of this case, as is their mandate

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:13 AM

    Whoa. Not testifying is bizzare. Not answering the 48 questions is bizzare. At least someone in the media is asking questions.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:58 AM

    If they don’t I’m going to write in with all the links people have posted up here.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:00 AM

    The character description is far too broad to reasonably assume this man, (or men I would believe seeing as the pictures are virtually different in my
    opinion) is going to be found. There’s nothing specific to enable people to see this man. Aged 20-40? Brown hair? Medium build? They’ve virtually described almost all Caucasian males in the UK, Ireland and Western Europe in that description. There’s nothing concrete, nothing stands out about these images. It worries me that after 6 years of yearning no results, that the Metropolitan police believe this is their ‘new lead in a fresh investigation’. It’s great that this tragedy is still being kept in the publics mind to practise extra vigilance, but I hate to think that this may be the only glimmer of hope for this poor family, who have been through so much, to find their daughter.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:02 AM

    Believe it or not.. it was not uncommon for parents to leave the kids behind while they went for a meal.. the mccanns assumed that their children were safe and sound. In a locked apartment, in bed asleep.. who would ever have thought something terrible would have happened to them?
    In an more innocent age it was inconcievable that any harm would come to these children.. unfortunately the events of that night will have immediate and direct effects for all caring parents from now on.. for ever.. the children will never be left out of the line of sight again.. and woe betide anybody who does..the sea change as to how we raise our kids has taken place.. maddys abductors (i dont believe the mccanns did it) have managed to alter the way we mind our kids like no other behaviour changers in history..should we not invest more effort in identifying the vile evil predators in our society and making it harder for them to harm our children?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:06 AM

    All the more reason to conclude that she was not abducted

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:10 AM

    Frank I honestly don’t know what planet you are on. I have 4 kids, never in our life has the wife or myself left the kids on their own. No parent with any sort of common sense would leave their kids in a strange room, in a strange country so they could enjoy a meal.

    Why didn’t they get a baby sitter? Simple solution!

    What would happen if the kids wake up? Obviously not in this case as I believe they were medicated but not every parent is a doctor that bring meds with them on holidays….

    What if there was a fire?

    You just don’t leave your kids alone like that!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:12 AM

    Apartment was not locked

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:34 AM

    Not locked, door was open, ie patio door unlocked, leading down steps to street with traffic. A four year old in charge of two two-year olds. Yet they never considered that she might have wandered out.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:36 AM

    When do you think the child went missing?
    All this talk about simpler times – she didn’t go missing a few decades ago. The world has been a scary place where children get abducted for quite some time now.
    As a pair of doctors – who would be considered very intelligent people indeed, they behaved like idiots.

    I was never left in a house unsupervised until I was in double digits. And at that – back then leaving a 10 year old unsupervised was considered living dangerously.

    They were in a strange country too.. Seriously – how can you even try to excuse leaving 3 kids under the age of 4?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 7:51 PM

    Looks like gerry mc cann

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:34 AM

    @The Lynch-Mob…………. This investigation would be non-existent if the McCann’s choose to let it be blown away with time as the Portuguese Police would have done. The progress to date in the search for Madelene is due to the love of her parents and their unrelenting search for their child. They are haunted with the guilt..OF THE WRONG THEY HAD DONE….and as a consequence there is no harsher sentence for them to serve than to have to live with the guilt of their child’s abduction due to their grave error of judgement!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:40 AM

    And by that rationale all the parents of other missing kids don’t love their kids enough to whip up this level of attention.. That’s lovely.. Because how many of those parents went off to enjoy themselves leaving their kids unsupervised?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:44 AM

    Again you jump to the conclusion tbat she was abducted.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:46 AM

    @shanti… My above comment related to the McCann’s because this is the issue we are all commenting on. However my comment also relates to the McCann’s because this abduction was due to their error of judgement concerning the welfare of their children,not all abducts are as a consequence of the parents mistake? Hence my comment!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:48 AM

    …should read….not all ‘abductions’…

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:00 AM

    Alan the Police are investigating the ‘abduction’ of Madelene?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:27 AM

    The McCanns want the investigation re-opened on their conditions, they want reconstruction to take place in Spain, hundreds of miles away from the resort where their daughter was allegedly taken from them and they had changed their time line of events to suit them.
    Sounds like an innocent couple to me.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:04 AM

    @Monika. NO civilian can dictate to any Police force the format for the Police investigation!
    The Portuguese police had NO interest in conducting a further investigation and only reopened it when Scotland Yard got involved. The McCann’s did not trust the Portuguese Police for all the right reasons hence, the McCann’s request to hold the centre of a new and fresh investigation outside of the jurisdiction of the incompetent Portuguese Police. This is why the British investigators had to commence their investigation from ‘zero.’

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:13 AM

    When you say the McCanns didn’t trust the police force for “all the right reasons”, which reasons would they be?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:17 AM

    Micheal you really need to get your facts straight before you start commenting. I believe a few readers here on journal last night managed to prove you wrong.
    The only reason McCanns don’t “trust” the portugese police is that they are being the main suspects on their investigation.

    How do you explain the fact that tey found a journal with the time line suiting McCanns in their bedroom and that they refused to answer any questions directed at them?
    How is it that suddenly, after 6 years , case is re-opened and all previous findings are disregarded? What police force allows time line of events to be changed?
    Yes, an average Joe wouldn’t be able to dictate police actions but it seems to me , by the way McCanns became famous and are treated like celebrities, that they are above the law in the UK

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:34 AM

    Steve Carrell? Seriously?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:27 AM

    The dirt, I know in my heart that baby is still alive, something is telling me that since the the day she went missing. Durtbirds, i’d kill them if I had the opportunity!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 8:57 AM

    Seen it in a crystal ball?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:03 AM

    Excuse my ignorance when it comes to colloquial English or street talk, but what is a ‘durtbird’ ?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:12 AM

    The opposite of a ladybird

    “Are you a ladybird or a duurrttburrd?”

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:14 AM

    Come here Amy, anything wrong with being hopeful love? as opposed to half the depressing ba)tards on here?1 and by the way Angela, dont be facetious honey, it doesnt suit ur face!!!!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:25 AM

    MB, I was not being facetious. I find your language and manner ‘interesting’ I suggest you learn manners and how to socially interact with others. You talk cheap, look cheap and seem to have the intellect of tree bark. I suggest you go chew on some paint chips and stop embarrassing yourself.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:27 AM

    Hoping and knowing are two different things, that’s all.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:21 AM

    Angela, you own the comments section of the Journal today. If MB’s not a troll, he’s giving a great imitation!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:51 PM

    There’s nothing wrong with hope, MB, except when it’s a triumph of hope over reason in an investigation like this.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:28 AM

    Jim.. you will find this near impossible to comprehend but there was a time when children went out by themselves.. like going to the shops to get a message.. or run an errand down the road without adult supervision.. as a child, i did this myself,as did every other kid on our street.. and nothing ever happened to me or anybody i know..
    Hey this is a true story you wont believe.. as a kid i used to walk about 2 kilometers to school and home again every day.. sometimes i used to ride my bike there.. honest!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:39 AM

    I lived in an estate with a supermarket right next to it.
    I wasn’t allowed to go to that shop alone until I was 8.
    I wasn’t allowed walk home from school alone until then either (school was 10 mins walk from my house).

    That was a few decades ago now. It hasn’t gotten better – it has gotten worse. You don’t leave a toddler unsupervised while you go out for a meal. End of.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:03 AM

    Frank I totally agree it was the same when I was growing up, on occasions as youngsters we would be gone to the country side for most of the day and we had loving, caring parents!

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:07 AM

    Frank – sorry have to ask how long ago was this? You must be talking of a time more than 30 or 40 years ago as you certainly don’t describe my childhood.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:48 AM

    Michael – there’s your error.
    Country side.
    My ex’s mother still left her doors unlocked in 2000 – she was in “the countryside”. There’s less people around so somewhat less of a risk (still came home to find herself being burgled and had the insurance company refuse a pay out because she was an idiot though).

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:18 AM

    Yes but I bet your parents didn’t leave you in a strange bedroom sedated while they went to have dinner with their friends. And I’m sure they would have been in a dilemma as to whther to leave the door open in case of fire or leave it locked so that if you did wake up you wouldn’t wander off.
    And that reminds me. They said the patio door was open in case of fire but if the children were sedated they wouldn’t have woken up and the McCanns didn’t have a clear line of sight from their table because of some bushes.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:42 AM

    The kids were sedated?
    What the f*cking f*ck??

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    Oct 14th 2013, 11:54 AM

    Frank, did you do all those things on your own when you were just THREE years old? And if so, were you left on your own with two younger siblings for good measure? And did that happen even when you were in a strange house in a foreign country?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:08 PM

    Yes, Shanti. Kate McCann admitted it. And not just once either apparently. Some “mistake”, eh?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:11 PM

    Surely drugging your kids isn’t right?
    Leaving them alone is one thing – but drugging them? What the hell?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:46 PM

    Yep. Criminal negligence at best, I would have thought. But as I said below the McCanns were well in with the Labour party and got support above and beyond. Labour were in government in thr UK at that time.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 6:43 PM

    Not mentioning gross negligence manslaughter as it would be described for the rest of the UK population in a situation like this… Doesn’t the efit look like Gerry McCann?

    If Maddy is alive and missing and I do believe she may be. Shouldn’t everyone door their level best to get her back to her parents?

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    Oct 14th 2013, 10:24 AM
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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:33 PM

    This whole case is incredibly perplexing.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 1:53 PM

    It’s Noel King!!! (On the right) As if the poor man’s week couldn’t get any worse

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    Oct 14th 2013, 2:13 PM

    The parents both refused to take a lie detector test. Not judging just stating a fact

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:41 AM

    Let’s hope that tonight’s programme will help established what happened, find out where Madeleine is, rescue her if she is alive, and allow this family and the people of Luz to move on from this dreadful matter, which at the end of the day is the story of the tragic loss of a beautiful and much loved little girl, and the lonely grief of her parents.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:50 PM

    Unfortunately the BBC crime watch did not shine much light on the case

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    Oct 14th 2013, 1:17 PM

    I think she might be dead by now,they might have panicked given all the media attention..I hope she is not dead,but think about what kind of life she might be having now??Hate to think of it..

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    Oct 14th 2013, 9:11 AM

    Looks like an actor in Titanic.

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    Oct 14th 2013, 12:14 PM

    They look a bit like Anthony Marsh and Lee Davis the two men convicted of committing 55 Child Sex Offences.

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