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A MAN WAS brought to hospital in Cork yesterday evening after a violent incident between two other men.
The man, who is in his 80s, was a bystander to the fight on Saint Patrick’s Street in Cork city centre.
He was injured and taken to Mercy University Hospital for treatment. His injuries are believed to not be life-threatening.
In a statement, gardaí said they were called to a public order incident yesterday at 7.55pm. When they arrived at the scene, the suspects had already left.
Investigations are ongoing but no arrests have yet been made.
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Well I’m sure the family of the woman he buried alive won’t mind how his life ended .
Karma!
Aren’t you confusing “justice” with revenge?
What is wrong with revenge ?
The hypocrisy is what’s wrong with it Larry. it’s not ok for a person to take the life of another but it is perfectly acceptable for the state to do the same and experiment with new drugs in the process?
Better than testing the drugs on innocent animals
They tested them on a guilty animal
These drugs shouldn’t be tested in the first place Nikki. The only use this combination of drugs was designed for was killing human beings.
At least 4.1% of inmates on Death Row are innocent, 1 in 25.
Gross, S.R., O’Brien, B., Hu, C. & Kennedy, E.H. 2014. Rate of false conviction of criminal defendants who are sentenced to death. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 201306417, doi: 10.1073/pnas.1306417111.
Well if that is the case, and I’ve no problem with your stats, why are the 4.1% still on death row?
At least 4.1% are NOT innocent. . If it was known that someone was innocent they wouldn’t be in prison at all, let alone on death row. It’s impossible to predict how many are (if any) with the 4.1% figure being based upon (amongst a few other factors) the amount o exonerated convictions between 1974 and 2004.
In any case, DNA evidence is primarily used in cases such as rape. The death penalty is largely used in cases of homicide to which DNA evidence is not usually primary factor. As both cases involved rape, DNA evidence was most likely used so one can probably safely assume that these men were in the 96% of correctly convicted criminals on death row.
not botched……just perfect !
Or the family of the 11 month old girl… tbh I don’t have any sympathy for him whatsoever, he got what he deserved!
4.1% are innocent according to the best possible estimates. DNA is rarely used.
Only hope is that something like this draws public attention to how obscene execution is.
David, you’ve contradicted yourself – 4.1% “are” innocent according to the best possible “estimates”.
4.1% are estimated to be innocent – that is different to what you have said. It is also admitted by the persons that did that study that it is almost impossible to predict whether that figure is true or not.
A brief description of the case -
“At around 10:30 p.m. on June 3, 1999, Bobby Bornt was asleep on the couch at his house in Perry, Oklahoma, when his front door was kicked in. Three men, Clayton Derrell Lockett, Shawn Mathis and Alfonzo Lockett, entered his house and immediately started beating and kicking him. Bornt recognized Lockett because Lockett had recently covered a tattoo for him. Lockett was carrying a shotgun which he used to hit Bornt. After the beating, Bornt’s attackers used duct tape to secure his hands behind his back and they gagged him and left him on the couch while they ransacked the house looking for drugs. As Bornt lay restrained on the couch his friend, Summer Hair, approached the open door. She was pulled inside, hit in the face and thrown against a wall. One of the men put a gun to her head and ordered her to call to her friend, Stephanie Neiman, who was outside sitting in her pickup. When Stephanie came inside, they hit her several times to get the keys to her pickup and the code to disarm the alarm on her pickup. The men put all three victims in the bedroom where Bornt’s nine-month old son, Sam, had been sleeping. Alfonzo Lockett came into the bedroom and got Summer. He took her into the bathroom where he made her perform oral sodomy on him. He then took her into Bornt’s bedroom where he told her to get undressed and he raped her. When he was finished, he left her there and Lockett came into the bedroom. He raped her vaginally and anally and he made her perform oral sodomy on him. When he was finished, he told her to get dressed and she went back into Sam’s bedroom with the others. Alfonzo Lockett came into the bedroom and used duct tape to secure Summer’s and Stephanie’s hands behind their backs. He also put tape across their mouths. Lockett instructed Mathis to look in the garage for a shovel. When he returned with a shovel, the victims were loaded into Bobby Bornt’s and Stephanie Neiman’s pickups. Bornt and his son were placed in his pickup with Lockett. Summer and Stephanie were placed in Stephanie Neiman’s pickup with Mathis and Alfonzo Lockett. They took off driving with Lockett in the lead. They left Perry and drove to a rural area in Kay County. Lockett stopped on a country road where he got out of the pickup he was driving and went over to Stephanie Neiman’s pickup. He made Summer get out and go with him to a ditch where he raped her and forced her to perform oral sex on him. When he was finished, he took her back to Bornt’s pickup. While Summer was sitting in the pickup, Mathis got her and took her back to Stephanie Neiman’s pickup where he made her perform oral sex on him. He grabbed her head and said, “In order for you to live, this is what you have got to do.” While stopped on the country road, Lockett told Mathis to get the shovel and start digging. When Mathis was digging in the ditch, Bornt heard Lockett say, “Someone has got to go.” Stephanie was taken to the hole dug by Mathis and Lockett shot her. The gun jammed and Lockett came back up to the pickup to fix it. While he was doing this, Bornt could hear Stephanie’s muffled screams. When the gun was fixed, Lockett went back down to the ditch and shot Stephanie again. While Mathis buried Stephanie’s body, Lockett and Alfonzo Lockett warned Bobby and Summer that if they told anyone they would be killed too. They then drove both pickups to another location where they left Stephanie’s pickup. All of them rode back to Bornt’s house in his pickup. Lockett, Mathis and Alfonzo Lockett dropped off Bornt, his son and Summer Hair at Bornt’s house and they left in Bornt’s pickup. The following day, Bobby Bornt and Summer Hair told the Perry police what had happened. Stephanie Neiman’s pickup and her body were recovered and Lockett, Mathis and Alfonzo Lockett were subsequently arrested. Lockett was interviewed by the police three times. The first time he terminated the interview and asked for an attorney. He later reinitiated the interview and although he denied shooting Stephanie Neiman during the second interview, he confessed to having killed her in a third interview.”
Well if that’s all true it wasn’t half slow enough for him
They forgot to wet the sponge lol
Jesus!!
I think it’s ok when you compare the stats. 100% of victims of murder are innocent vs 4% on death row!!! Those who think we should not risk executions for the 4% don’t value life.
It can be to sweet at times
Your saying the people against execution dont value life? Ironic.
He raped an 11 month old child and buried a teenager alive…I think the punishment he received fits the crime.
I am saying we should execute away. ( don’t mind the 4% of innocents that get executed)
Yes justice is inept and is never truly just, and revenge is sweet and always just.
@Colin Treacy ,..
Wrong inmate
After raping and murdering an 11 month old baby it sounds like the right outcome to me.
That’s the second inmate, but either way the Americans are a messed up bunch!!
You didn’t read it. That was the other inmate.
Except that’s not what this man was convicted of. He committed a horrible crime but then again he was murdered in a barbaric manner as well.
Apologies I misread it also but regardless the rape beating and burying alive of a woman deserves the same fate
@Nikki by that logic, the executioner should also suffer the same fate as he killed this man in a barbaric manner
That’s one way of looking at it I suppose. I don’t know enough about he death penalty system to discuss whether it’s ethical, legal murder etc I just know that if someone committed those crimes on one of mine that I’d be happy enough with this outcome
As would I Nikki but there is a huge difference between justice and revenge. The problem I have with it is Murder is Murder, what’s the difference if it’s done on the street or in an institute by so called “guardians”
Which is why wetry to have a judicial system, and not roving lynch mobs.
No more barbaric than what he done the dirty savage.
I was outraged at first and then I read the crimes each have been found guilty, I’m struggling to feel a modicum of sympathy for them now.
How about that 4% on death row tend to be innocent and the US often executes innocent people ?
To be perfectly correct David, it isn’t the US who put this man to death. It was the state of Oklahoma. Each one of the states in the US is technically its own nation with its own set of laws, police forces, court systems and constitution. Therefore the US as a whole had very little to do with this.
That being said, 4% of those put to death being innocent is simply too high of a number for petty revenge. Thankfully we don’t have the death penalty here.
Well it’s the norm for the US to torture prisoners and kill and maim innocent civilians. The killing of their own citizens is barbaric. But the US are good at it. Look at Guantanamo and the torture.
Not entirely true David. There are a lot of commonalities between all the states in the US and they all fall under the power of Washington and the US Supreme Court. Obviously they can make their own laws but every citizens rights are guaranteed under the American constitution, not individual states.
I feel no sympathy for the convicted killer but what purpose is served by killing him? Rotting in prison for the rest of his life is more appropriate punishment. The death penalty might give us a sense of revenge but it has no effect on crime stats.
Each US state is not it’s own nation, they fought their most bloody war in history over that. The federal government has huge powers.
“Warner was convicted for the 1997 rape and murder of an 11-month-old girl.”……………..Now how could we ensure all executions went the same way and not the peaceful “off to sleep” their lawyers are clambering for.
Costs a lot to keep a prisoner cost less in the long run to kill him particularly if he deserves it like these two did for their heinous crimes. I am of the mind nobody should be put to death without DNA evidence or video evidence.
@ Cathal
They don’t rot in prison, thats the problem. It looks pretty cosy what with all the TV’s, books, gyms, sporting courts, cards etc available to them. One big hangout with all their mates, all funded by the taxpayer.
We are so quick to demand the execution of an animal when it attacks a human but not so for when human beings commit atrocities against others.
If they really were condemned to hard time: tough physical work of digging holes and filling them over and over again or breaking bigger rocks into pebbles, for each and every single day remaining in their lives to earn their food and spartan living environment (they shouldn’t be simply handed these luxuries) I would feel more satisfied in seeing life in prison given over execution for these subhumans. They are a waste of oxygen.
I don’t believe that was an accident … Not after readn what he done … Eye for an eye
Sharia law supporter then?
A recent report says that about 4% of those on death row in the USA are innocent.
In recent just over 1% of death row prisoners were exonerated or had their sentence commuted. That leaves an awful lot of innocent people murdered by the state in pursuit of your ‘eye for an eye’ policy.
If the UK hadn’t abolished the death penalty the Birmingham Six and Guilford four would be dead by now.
If that is the price if taking his type out of society, bring it on
So if killing innocent people is the price to pay for killing people found guilty of murder then bring it on…
Stupid statement conor!!!
Outside of college kid libtards, who is crying for him?
Would you feel as strongly if you were in the 4%, Larry?
Not really Jackie That is the fundamental principle of shariah law. A guy blinded another in one eye in Iran and the court ruled that he must be blinded in one eye. A woman was disfigured in an acid attack in Pakistan and the court ruled that the attacker must have acid thrown at him in the same way. And even in Iran, the family of a murder victim may trade execution by the State for blood money from the perpertrator.
Yes. But would you bring that law into the same lines of executions and the law in the states?
F*ck him!
I don’t agree with the death penalty at all and after reading the first part of the article that me makes more certain. However after reading what they did I’m very torn. imagine if they did that to a loved one? Monsters killing monsters.
It’s still very hypocritical to say that individuals cannot put another individual to death but it is perfectly acceptable for the state to do so.
Barbaric – surely if the state practices capital punishment they can do a better job than this. I don’t subscribe to an eye for an eye anyway.
After raping an 11 month old baby this death was still too good for him
Well he didn’t rape a 11 month old baby nikki. So what “punishment” should he have got in this case?
He actually did you are mixing up the people
@kerry he raped, beat and buried alive an innocent woman so I still stand by my sentiment and that’s that even this death was too good for him
Please read the article again…
@sean yes thanks Sean after several comments correcting those of us who misread it we have reread and commented accordingly as you will see when you read the remaining commenta
About time…
Here comes the bleeding hearts…
Good to see justice been done
Anyone who regards that as just is a sick individual no matter what they were convicted of. You are confusing barbarous revenge with justice, they are not the same.
No justice there LM, only backwards indulgent barbarism. Ask Cameron Todd Willingham or Johnny Garrett if Justice was done by them.
Law Abiding Citizen 2.
Think of the torture his victims endured.
This place is full of low lifes. How could you revel in a mans torture? How could you believe that society is a better place with executuon?
Society is a better an safer place with one less rapist and murder in it
Capital punishment is barbaric… End of. These people have committed terrible crimes but committing another crime for the sake of vengeance is not the answer. Capital punishment does not work as a deterrent and resolves no issues for the victims of the crimes and does nothing for society.
Capital punishment definitely works.
Eye for an eye in my opinion. Plus, if you commit a crime than is deserving of execution then you know what, society and the human race don’t need you. So I say, good riddance!
Nothing for society except the saving of thousands of tax dollars and the absolute removal of a dangerous threat. ‘End of’ is a weak thing to put after an opinion in any argument.
And what if you didn’t commit the crime for which you are being executed?
Capital punishment doesn’t work. It has no real effects on the rate or type of crimes being committed. It is based on the naive presumption that if people know they may face the death penalty it will deter them from committing the crime. It doesn’t work. The type of person who commits the type if crimes indicated in this article doesn’t think like a rational person to begin with. Moreover many death penalty crimes are committed in circumstances where rationality is the last thing that the person committing the offence is thinking of. I believe that he fact that the death penalty is not a deterrent is now widely accepted. Hence the main argument for the death penalty is revenge i.e. an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. Very Old Testament. Not surprising in the good old US of A where so many people take the Bible literally and believe that the world was created in 4004 BC. The same mentality exists in Iran but from a different albeit similarly fundamentalist religious perspective.
We may have kicked the Catholic Church off its pedestal in Ireland but apparently the mentality of judgementalism and emotionalism apparently remains firmly embedded in the Irish psyche especially in some who would otherwise decry religion. The only thing the death penalty does is coarsen society and if you want an example then follow what is happening in the USA where such attitudes are rampant and reflect Old Testament thinking masquerading as Christianity.
Winston how does an execution save society money, the NY Times costed an execution at US 25 Million to the tax payers as the state has to pay for the legal process.
The average annual cost of keeping someone in prison in the USA according figures published by each individual state is $25,000, or $1 million for 40 years vs 25 million to execute a prisoner.
Haha no it doesn’t it. If it did states that practice capital punishment would have a lower incident of crimes that qualify for such punishment.
Like in other countries where you get your hand/arm cut off for stealing, or perhaps take Texas with extremely high rate of capital punishment, yet there crime statistics are not reduced. It only serves to appease your twisted sense of justice.
“Oh that person was killed horribly, so lets’s make that one die horribly too”
The only other place I see support for CP is on the Daily Mail, and other right-wing pseudo-journalistic rags.
It does not save money Winston and there are certain absolutes one of which is that the death penalty is barbaric whether it be by beheading with an axe or the injection of a cocktail of drugs in a quasi medical setting or the shooting of a wounded man bound to a chair or the hanging of a woman for having an abortion or the electrocution of bank robber or the stoning to death of a woman for adultery. An eye for eye would leave the whole world blind.
It rids society of them and hat has to be a good thing. No chance of them getting out on parole and having the opportunity to rape or murder more innocent people
Nikki, what if they turned out to be innocent, like Johnny Garrett was after he was executed? Your arguments are only valid in a perfect system, which we definitely do not have.
Says the man who came out and supported max Clifford the other day
Eric – That was a completely different case. Garrett was not proven innocent albeit he always professed he was. The case has come in to question due to cold case DNA evidence that suggests that it was not him.
In this case DNA evidence was available and the rapist/killer also admitted his guilt. What more do you want?
CP would work better if they didn’t waste time, don’t see the point in holding onto convicts for 14 years???
finish them off within 6 months. that’ll deter them.
Personally speaking, if there is any chance of an innocent person dying then that is enough for me to oppose the death penalty. I oppose the finality of it.
I also oppose it on the grounds that by executing criminals we are going to their level. Society should hold itself to higher standards that the criminals it abhors. Capital punishment is fighting fire with fire at best and an indulgence of the darker side of human nature at it’s worst. As evolved and civilised people we should be able to rise above the primal voice baying for blood when we have been wronged.
I would imagine most offenders re-offend so at least less innocent people get hurt in the future. Not a perfect system but at society has no place for men such as these.
It’s not revelling, he got what he deserved, you can’t behave worse then an animal and then cite your human rights particularly when you’ve so barbarically taken away someone else’s , that kind of logic is worthy of a Darwinian award and is the reason criminals laugh at our justice system
So human rights are conditional? That’s a slippy slope my friend. Human rights aren’t necessary when all is rosy in the garden, it is only in situations where there is imbalance, such as prison or a tyranny, that they become important. As disgusting as this mans actions are, his human rights must be observed
Also, judging by the stats criminals are laughing at the justice system irrespective of whether capital punishment is in place or not. What is the point if it is not acting as a deterrent? Your Darwin Award quip is misplaced and ill thought out.
I assume your ok with sharia law then.
He won’t be committing any more heinous crimes.
Teach a person not to kill by killing them. Ya that’s logical. Not. Captical punishment is a bit like gang land murders. Yes when it’s gang land murder we call it murder. How is that different just because the state dose the killing? The person been executed has family to how is that far on them. The parent who unconditionaly love’s their children. Does the state have the right to muder that child. Yes I said child. We are all a child in the loving eyes of loving parents.
Stay classy America
This was almost certainly allowed to occur on purpose – otherwise quickly putting a mask over his mouth with standard hospital anaesthetic gas would have rendered him unconscious!
Legal murder in the form of the death penalty is never right.
I consider this a good news story that he suffered greatly just like his victim, the other guy raped and murdered an 11 month old baby , come on do gooders and explain why he has rights and should not suffer .
I personally hope that the child killer dies a horrible slow death .
Sounds like a very successful execution to me.
yep, he didn’t survive this one. job done.
Karma’s a bitch. Burn in Hell!
Pretty horrific. While what he did was absolutely evil and he deserves life in prison on hard labour on minimal food and water, he did not deserve a botched execution! Those on death row should be given a choice of method: shooting, hanging, electrocution, gas chamber or injection. I reckon most would chose to be shot or hung.
@conor he RAPED an 11 month old BABY????? He deserved to die.
Give them a choice how they die that is a ridiculous statement I may not 100% agree with capital punishment but certainly don’t think that an animal who rapes and murders an 11 month old should be allowed to choose.
nikki he did NOT rape an 11 month old baby…..
Nikki the botched execution wasnt carried out on the rapist, but his crimes were horrific on their own level.
If they can’t do the job right with these injections, a firing squad is a real alternative. A shot to the head has to be a better way to go.
He did not rape an 11 month old baby the other inmate who is still alive did…
@kerry yes Kerry I read your previous comment directed at me stating the same thing and responded accordingly. Very worrying that you seem to be condoning the rape beating and murder of an innocent woman yet you are protesting against the perpetrator dying in pain? Is there a particular reason for this?
@nikki cop on, Kerry isn’t ‘condoning rape or anything of the kind. Objecting to the death penalty does not mean you endorse the crime that was committed by the perpatrator.
Just goes to show how many headline readers are on here today.
I didnt say I disagreed with the death penalty for such horrific crimes. I said he didnt deserve a botched execution.
My preference would be to leave them in solitary confinement without sunlight for ten years on minimal nutrition. Then present them with a rope after ten years. I imagine most would take their rotten lives to escape.
@james Kerry’s words were “he committed a HORRIBLE crime but he was MURDERED BARBARICALLY. Easy to read between the lines there and see which event she finds worse no?
Execution is state sponsored murder. You can dress it up any way you like after that to justify it to yourself but that is what it is. Legal Murder.
Legal murder or not if he had carried that crime out on someone in my life I would find it very hard to feel sorry for him. I’m sure there are many better people than me who would find it in their hearts to forgive him but I just don’t think I could. Wouldn’t be a big supporter of the death penalty because of so many false/wrong convictions but reading cases like these makes it hard
I don’t feel anything for him. Just can’t work out why use untested drugs. Why not just tell him what was in the needle. What’s the big deal?
Only reason I disagree with death penalty is a really simple one. It doesn’t deter anything. It’s a money saver. Simple as that.
Nikki, how would you feel if someone was put to death for a crime committed against a friend or family member of yours only for it later to be found through new evidence that the person put to death was in fact innocent? That happens all too often when it comes to the death penalty.
He didn’t deserve a botched execution but you would happily torture him for ten years to the point that he would take his own life? Bit of a contradiction there Conor…
(Not that I care though. He was convicted of the rape and murder of 19-year-old girl, who was buried alive. It short – fcuk him)
The death penalty cannot be reversed. Life imprisonment can. To sentence the death penalty is to assume perfection in all the parties involved. And judging by the amount of innocents that have been executed, we are nowhere near that perfection. People support the death penalty because it appeals to their primitive nature, and as a species we revel in the chance to indulge or primitive urges.
In these cases both men have admitted guilt, I don’t support the penalty in that the hope prisoners suffer but in such cases where guilt is admitted or proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (is video evidence etc), then for me life imprisonment doesn’t cut it. I’ve defended lethal injection on here before and I’ve obviously been wrong believing it to be painless, but I’d still stand by the punishment
Didn’t he admit guilt?
He got away lightly. He should have been buried alive.
Karma.If his crimes were committed in Ireland he would probably be out by now.About time our justice system was overhauled to resemble one.
Was Percy Whitmore the executioner?!?!
It’s like a scene out of the green mile. Why not just put a gun to his head if your going to murder him. Do it properly.
Lethal injection let’s them pretend it isn’t what it is.
@ Kev – these vermin should be given a pair of New Balance shoes, shorts and let run free in the desert…………..with the US military 5 minutes behind in helicopter gunships…………now that would be the proper way to do it.
He deserved worse in my opinion. The family’s of his victims have to live without there loved ones cause off him.
Can’t say I have any sympathy.
Ah a good news story to start the day
Good I hope it was long and agonising
Have u anything better to be doing
I don’t boy I’m bored off my head
He raped a young woman, beat her and buried her alive? He got off light with the heart attack. No wonder the world is the way it is when some people have pity on this animal. To all the people that think it was wrong what happened to him – if the victim was your sister or your mother would you be so sympathetic?
Job done,what’s the problem – next
Big deal, who cares?
He got what he deserved, maybe they should think of using the same drug on the other murderers, might be a deterrent????
Ummmm….. The specific effect of potassium chloride is to stop the heart from beating, they use it to stop the heart for transplant and valve surgery in hospitals over the world daily.
Why the tone of surprise and implication that a heart attack was completely unsuspected?
I think the circumstance that it took 40 minutes rather than being instantaneously is the issue.
The combination, respectively order of sedative, anaesthetics and then the lethal works just the same when putting animals to sleep but is generally without a struggle.
Justice served where is the problem?
Well I’m certainly not going to lose any sleep tonight over this article anyway…
Story about Muslims in the UK and Ireland. Commenters warn of the impending danger of sharia law overtaking our legal systems
Story about capital punishment in the US. Commenters revel in torture and revenge killing.
Sharia law is kept within the Muslim community!!! And to be fair I have yet to hear of a woman been stoned to death for been raped!! Have you?
Eh, yeah, Jackie. That’s actually quite a common occurence in parts of the world.
Happens all the time. Last year a 13 year old was stoned in Somalia after being raped.
Yes I’m totally award of that. But it’s a religious based law which has no place in society and is not the same as executions in the states!!!
And Kevin was on about Ireland and the UK not Somalia!!!
What’s the difference Jackie? The argument for both is that it is morally right for the state to kill someone in revenge for the killing of another.
I’m Muslim countries it’s the religion that kills!! It’s totally wrong when someone gets killed for been raped!! The guy above was not raped and a religion is not killing him the law of the land is. So bringing sharia law in to the same line as this is wrong, and in sharia law the man who was executed last night would not have been sentenced to death because he is a man. So how is it similar?
Are you just ignorant or stupid Jackie? Sharia law is commonly applied to non-Muslims in the Muslim world. And this includes women being murdered for being raped as this is deemed to be adultery. The word of a woman you see is not equivalent tot the word of a man and women who are sexually assaulted are routinely executed, jailed or physically abused. Read a bit before you comment so ignorantly. In Iran if someone kills a member of your family you even get the choice of killing them in a similar fashion – literally an eye for an eye. It would appear that many posting here harbour similar views. Ironic really as I suspect that many of them would consider themselves committed secularists. It just goes to show that the attitudes which underlie fundamentalist religions can just as easily transfer to secular societies and rear their ugly heads. It’s easy to knock religion of its perch; it’s much handler to challenge your own attitudes and open your own heart. The posts here simply indicate that in many respects the judgemental attitudes that gave us the Magdalene Laundries and the endemic sexual abuse of children haven’t changed in the slightest despite the change in packaging. If you want to know why Ireland isn’t changing that much despite all that is happened and the toppling of so many authoritarian institutions you need look no further than so many of the unthinking and revealing expressions of opinion in this article.
I’m neither John but thanks for the concern!! If you read what I was saying before you opened your hole you would understand why I said what I said!!
It is the State Jackie, and on the same logical basis as you propose. Someone commits a terrible crime, then the State must kill them. That is your logic.
Yes!!! What that monster did to that innocent victim deserve execution!!
What I am saying is sharia law is barbaric!!! It’s not just about an eye for an eye!!! But executions should be in every country for the likes of the men above, like the guy who raped them 2 innocent kids last year., he deserves hanging for it. Where people are getting that I support sharia law is far from the truth.
No matter what the crime was, that sort of punishment is barbaric. All capital punishment is barbaric.
Well after the rape, murder and burying alive of one woman and murdering an 11 month old baby it looks like the karma bus came back around for him!!
Sounds like the perfect execution to me for what he did.
Life in a North Korean gulag would be ideal for this monster, after what he did i can’t say i’m happy that his suffering is now history.
The usual do-gooders whining about “murder by the State” etc. If you do what either of these guys did then you’re not a human being and don’t deserve to be treated as one. Anyone capable of carrying out such an atrocity has no right to live. End of.
What if you don’t do it but are merely found guilty of it?
You and everybody else who says an eye for an eye is a supporter of Shariah law. That is what Shariah law says about criminal justice. Painting people who oppose the death penalty as having sympathy or pity for the criminal or as condoning what they did or of having a bleeding heart is also bullshit. I think these people are monsters and need to be removed from society and deserve no sympathy. But killing them does not make everything okay. The surviving family may feel they have justice for a fleeting moment but they will be tortured forever by the loss of their loved one. Killing him does not erase what happened. And it does nothing for society – it further brutalizes society and makes murder acceptable – someone who already faces the death penalty, if they are thinking straight and not off their heads on drugs may well say, hey I have already crossed the line so maybe I will have some fun and rape her again before killing her… I have nothing more to lose. Far better to put them away forever in a dark room in the desert, and far cheaper.
Every cloud has a silver lining. Delighted.
He deserved everything he got!!! Next………..
Read it again people he kidnapped, raped,beat and buried alive another human being.If she was a member of your family would you be okay with him getting 15 years in an Irish prison with sky TV,training programs,gyms and recreational drugs on demand.This vicious dog got what he deserved suffering and death.
well thats it you see, it must arrive on their own doorstep for them to get that. goes for everything, goes for all doo goodies.
I’m sure somebody somewhere is already drying the ink on a lawsuit, a book deal and film rights to this story.
What’s the big deal? He was being executed anyway. Looks like the drugs were successfully tested. Line ‘em up.
Ah come on people read the article and what their crimes were of course they deserved what they got. All you do gooders out there put yourselves in the shoes of the victims family and imagine what they feel. People who commit these crimes will never change we’ve seen stories of people out on parole reoffend in recent times
Terrible. Just wait for the pro death squad in here cheering. But I stink it’s prob better than what the US do to foreign citizens with their indiscriminate bombing that kills and injures thousands of innocent women and children across the globe. It’s torture and killing of its own citizens is also barbaric.
Sounds like the Green Mile!!
As a Dr… I support trying out more drugs on these animals to improve medicine. I don’t support an eye for an eye but seriously raping and burying someone alive… that is a crime that will torment the family members of the victim for life. What matters most is the welfare of the victim’s family and friends and to stop these barbaric criminals in anyway possible…
Was that in your Hippocratic oath ?
What does the question have to do with my opinion on this topic? Am I the one who executed the criminal or was I just saying it will help the face of medicine to put criminals with very barbaric crimes to medical use… let me put it this way. Am at home enjoying the evening with my family and a criminal jumps in violently attacking my family and in self defence I knock him/her out. What kind of question would you ask me then?
I do believe that has been tried before, Germany, 1939-45.
The amount of people who haven’t read the article properly is amazing. I think that all rapists should have this sort treatment but shouldn’t die at the end of it … rather that they suffer on for the rest of their lives like they made their victims suffer. And whoever suggested …” only in Obamas America” …. SERIOUSLY???? Executions have been carried out in the good old US of A for a long long time now …. long before Obama was even born Id imagine so get over yourself!
If they are going to use a drugs cocktail to execute someone then they must be 100% sure that the drugs are effective, that there is no chance of failure and that no one suffers a death at the hands of the state like what this inmate suffered.
The prisoners recently failed in their recent court case to stop the execution because the drugs they were to be given were not made by licensed manufacturers but by what amounts to a little more than a chemist shop mixing them up. How right their court action proved to be, I wonder will the judges rue that decision now. Big manufacturers have refused to allow their drugs be used for executions, rightly so in my view.
Maybe he should appeal ?
I don’t care who you are, I don’t think anyone deserves to die in that way. It sounds like a total shambles and everything involved should be ashamed of themselves.
Convicted murderer & rapist? Well for him! At least he got to feel the pain of his victim before he died!
Only in Obama’s America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_capital_punishment_by_country
No, it’s not only in America.
He raped and murdered a baby ! I would have tortured him on an hourly basis for that crime alone.I hope he suffered.
the people who carry out these state endorsed murders are barbarians. isn’t america the only country in the developed world to still do this? i could be wrong…..surely these prisoners who commit unspeakable crimes would have a life time behind bars to think about what they have done……that to me is a worthy punishment….knowing that you will never ever be free again….on another post on this site there are people talking about prehistoric thinking in Stormont rejecting the same sex marriage bill AGAIN…..the states is on a per with those same people…….twisted, religious nutters.
Jaysus Jason was that guy your friend or something? Did you not read he raped a baby?!
Sick b#$Ards. I wouldn’t want them to die like that. I’d want them to wake everyday wishing they were dead.
A bullet is cheaper to hell with him
I am against the death penalty for the simple reason that you cannot reverse it!
What happened to the man though is that he got away rather lightly….30 minutes of agony vs 40-50 years in solitary confinement! I hope he rots in hell going through this agony until eternity over and over again!
For the other guy I personally think that whoever rapes and murders a baby lost all his human rights and deserves EVERYTHING he gets! I don’t want him to be executed but rather prefer him being beaten up severely by fellow inmates, every day for the next 50 years!
thats it, prison time itself is not punishment today, its too good for them. many are trying to get back in to meet old friends, get free education, free food, plot and learn more dirty tricks. put them to work, digging tunnels. there is no deterrent anymore in our own system.
Considering less crime occurs in Ireland then the US, and there is only one of the forty nations that still carry out executions where you are less likely to be murdered then then Ireland we must be doing something right.
No sympathy at all for him, sk.mbag deserved worse. I feel sorry for the victims family with this making worldwide news no doubt making them relive their agony
All the usual right wing comments making their appearance.
Who gives a s#it? What he did deserved the death penalty, thats what he got..
Cheaper to put him in front of a firing squad and let the squad take pot shots , not to kill him yet to make him feel how shooting someone feels like . Then after a cup of tea put a double tap to the head and bury in limestone . No trace of ever being on this earth remains .
Look for the positive in the story. The reoffend rate after the death sentence is 0%
How is it a botched execution? He died, did you see how his victim died ? If there is a God perhaps the hand of divine retribution played a part in his prolonged and hopefully painful demise.
How can some people say that people who commit theses crimes don’t deserve the death penalty ? If it was your family memeber that were the victim would u feel the same? Can’t rehabilitate every rapist and murderer, they have to pay for the crimes !
NO NO NO NO to the death penalty
I cannot stand this bloodthirst.All of you should be ashamed of yourselves.NO to the death penalty.
Is the reason the state are so desperate to keep the source of the drugs secret due to the fact the last company that supplied the drugs thought they where being used for medical treatments and refused to continue supplying the DOC after they found out that the drugs where being used to kill people, leading to the shortage of the drugs that required the change in the drugs cocktail in the first place?
Charles Warner certainly dodged a bu….lethal injection
How his life ended was nothing compared to how his victim’s life ended. May he burn in hell.
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