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ONE MAN WAS shot dead and two others are injured after a shooting outside a Copenhagen mosque following prayers to mark the end of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan on Tuesday, police said.
Police spokesman Lau Thygesen said the shooting took place outside the Muslim Culture Institute, located in the Danish capital’s western Vesterbro district, and that the roads surrounding the mosque and a nearby car park have been cordoned off.
“After the prayer, there apparently was some kind of quarrel between two groups. I don’t know if both (groups) had been inside the mosque,” Thygesen said. “The quarrel turned into a scuffle which was followed by the shooting.”
A 50-year-old man and a third person, who was rushed away in private car, were injured. The third person’s whereabouts and his condition were not known, Thygesen said.
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No arrests have been made but police were on the lookout for “several perpetrators,” he said.
A spokesman for the Muslim institute, who declined to give his name before hanging up the telephone, told The Associated Press that the incident took place on a parking lot next to the mosque as hundreds of people were leaving the 9 am prayer service.
Kuran Qureshi, who attended the prayers, told Danish broadcaster TV2 in a live interview that he had witnessed two groups of “younger men having some kind of argument” on the parking lot just before the shooting started.
Qureshi said he had heard “15, maybe 20 shots,” as he drove away from the area with his 10-year-old son. “I saw people, women, children ducking and hiding behind cars. It was really unpleasant.”
The Muslim Cultural Institute was founded in the late 1970s by Pakistani immigrants. It includes a mosque as well as facilities where Islam is being taught to boys and girls in Danish.
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Britain is an island too, with an unprecedented number of direct air connections to the outbreak zones in West Africa. Given the number of people transiting to Ireland via the UK, Ireland’s geography as an island means nothing.
We are utterly dependent on the UK to put in place measures to prevent its spread to this part of the World.
Infection with Ebola requires direct contact with the boldly fluids (blood, semen, vomit etc) of an infected person, that’s how it spreads, it’s not airborne and you don’t breathe it in as droplets like the flu.
If we heard in the morning that there were 3 Ebola cases in St Vincents Hospital there would not be much cause for alarm, they’d just be moved to an isolation unit.
The only danger is in it mutating into something that is more easily transmitted.
Even in that worst case scenario, where the movie outbreak or the novel executive orders happened there would be a few simple measures we could take to shut it down:
-Declare a state of national emergency
-Close the ports and airports and get the UK govt to do the same to the ones in NI
-Have the Taoiseach announce that 6 hours from the state of emergency’s beginning all places of assembly (schools, shopping centers etc) would be shut down, all intercity road and rail travel would be terminated, a curfew would be in place for all nonessentials, and all congregations of more than 2 persons will be unlawful.
-Enforce the curfew and travel bans with the army, army reserve and Garda.
That would give people enough time to grab some groceries and get home.
We would do ok. My only concern in this kinda scenario is the lack of adequate CBRN gear for our first responders, civil defense and military. We could get those quick enough though.
We would not be alone either, we’d have help from WHO and even the CDC in the US if we asked.
What exactly do you define as ”MASS” immigration, I’ve been hearing that for years but I’ve never heard anyone define it.
The immigration in the EU goes both ways, plenty of our citizens go to France, UK, Cyprus etc
The point remains however, it’s a simple matter to close down that flow of people in an emergency. Germany for example can officially ”’close” it’s borders but it will still be porus because even with patrols there won’t be a wall around it.
However if we close our ports and airports on the island the only way for people to get in or out is by personal boats and thats easier said than done for the smaller craft, and the bigger ones are easily spotted and intercepted by the navy.
Tell me did we have the same amounts of immigrants before mass immigration?
No we had a very small trickle and had secure borders, the difference in type of influx and numbers we have now and what we had then is a defining characteristic of mass immigration, one where the island retains it’s ancestral, indigenous demographic, culture and heritage.
Western Europeans do not go to each others countries in vast quantities that change the identity of the country, also we are same/similar in ancestral and cultural make-up, this is incomparable to Africans and asians coming here.
Your idea that closing ports keeps people out is naive in the extreme, and thus dangerous. Illegals have been coming to Ireland via the north since mass immigration began.
I actually have given you a working definition of that word.
But with or without such a definition one can still describe what the situation was like before and after a time when there was ongoing immigration from the time it occurred to before the time it occurred sometime around the 90′s.
For example before this time, there were next to none Africans coming here. Yet you somehow are unable to include that in any description you might give as to how it was before such a time.
I hope both of these patients can fight this terrible virus and wish them well. They were doing a selfless job helping so many. They deserve to be home near their families.
I’m sure America has kept the Ebola virus in a high security laboratory for decades. Probably since the first know outbreak. You know to study it and maybe even see if it could be made into a biological weapon.
Why the hell would you bring this virus into your country, surely they could of brought the best care to the 2 unfortunate people instead of them being brought back. Somethings not right.
West Africa as a region lacks the critical clinical equipment and personnel to provide to best care. Why would you treat somebody with serious head injuries in a rural hospital, when the best services for treating head injuries are at Beaumont?
Cholly – maybe you should head to West Africa and tell them all there’s nothing to worry about because its really hard to spread the disease. And then go to the US and tell the two patients over there because they obviously didn’t realise how difficult it was.
I haven’t ever subscribed to all the conspiracy theorists but on this occasion all is not right as to why the US are really taking these 2 unfortunate people back to US soil.
I expect they want them on their patch in order to be able see what they can find out about the Ebola virus now and, hopefully not be the case, when they die of it.
Maybe it’s the case that they seriously hope they can save the two people but me thinks they want to do a few experiments in the meantime.
Here’s hoping they survive and the US can indeed learn a little more about it but I’d rather they didn’t peddle this story about wanting to do all to save their citizens etc.
There have been several ebola outbreaks before, they know all about it they don’t need to do any new primary research.
They took them back to the US because they don’t have the facilities to treat them where they were.
There is nothing stopping the most advanced nations on the planet in setting up state of the art facilities in these countries. Transporting this virus to jam-packed areas is asking for trouble. Nevermind disasters like airplane crashes.
One would think that governments want Ebola to spread.
There is indeed many things stopping them. Most of these countries still carry around a kind of childish nationalism and the idea of a foreign government coming in and it’s agencies taking over a section of their country to run as they please would not go over well, besides if it’s their people they will want them back on their own soil.
The CDC facilities are in the US, it’s a logistical nightmare to move many of these halfway across the planet for 1-2 patents when you can just fly that patient home.
I’m not even going to bother with the conspiracy nonsense, my experience with that kind of mindset is that nothing you say, no logic or facts will change their mind, 600 people see a plane crashing into the pentagon ”no no it was a missile” , you could argue it all day and they won’t change their minds because it’s not about the facts it’s about their mindset.
Nationalism is the opposite of childish, no nationalist country with it’s own currency as espoused by Libya would have succumbed to the world recession. It is interesting to note that what you would espouse as mature, results in mass devastation of peoples lives and livelihood.
I did not say transport the facilities, it is obvious temporary bio-hazard clean-facility fabrications are capable of being erected in very short time and dotted around each country.
To play around with global health is what is immature and irresponsible in the extreme.
As for your conspiracy theory opinion, what people have seen a plane crash into the pentagon?
Why at the Pennsylvania crach site there is no debris yet at the Russian MH17 crash site there is ample debris, all perfectly reasonable, in your book.
America has a bad reputation for turning Drills into “actual events” …It has happened with almost every false flag to date including 9/11, Sandy Hook, , Boston Bombing and I also believe UK’s 7/7.
When we hear of drills being carried out, they should be a sign of caution
Again, I don’t argue with conspiracy theories because they are not based in rational thought, you’re just arguing with someones psychosis.
I’ve learned that lesson too many times, I’m not gonna exhaust myself debating someone who will not change their mind no matter what facts are presented to them. I’ve talked to enough truthers to know nothing anyone says will change their mind, they are fundamentally irrational.
When the facts r not really facts . 9-11 commission report never explain y building 7 fell. There is and has only been 3 tall rise buildings that have ever collapsed due to fire and they all fell on the one day. Does anyome know the odds on that. I just cant belive people belive governments cause they tell ya too. If my misses cheats I will never belive ir trust her again. Its human nature .
A conspiracy is when 2 or more people make a plan. Yet you seem to think people in govt are above making plans.
You also decline to answer a very rational argument, a contrast and comparison argument.
Plane crash in pennsylvania of one of the hijacked 9/11 aircraft left no debris, yet every other plane crash site I have seen, leaves debris including the recent Malaysian MH17, explain that.
As an engagement in rationality one should ask that question on the simplest basis of contrasting results, yet your “rationality” prefers to ignore such pertinent questions. that sunshine smacks of irrationality.
So you’re saying the plane left no wreckage. That’s a new one. Are you the only person on the planet who has spotted that flaw in this master plan? Or did you read it off some whack job website?
Did I not hear on the news last night that there was to be no people leaving from that area so to contain the disease? And now I see two medical personnel have left and flown to the US. Ok it was a private jet but mistakes can be made and it could spread into the population.
There is no cure apparently.
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