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ECB head: Ireland could have burned bondholders

Here’s everything you need to know about what’s happening in Irish politics right now…

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Matt vs Mario.

Germany European Central Bank Michael Probst Michael Probst

ECB President Mario Draghi has written a letter to Matt Carthy, after the Sinn Féin MEP raised a number of questions about the European Central Bank’s involvement in the Irish bailout.

Draghi told the Midlands North West MEP the ECB did not call on Ireland to burn bondholders.

I must be absolutely clear that the ECB does not have any authority to issue instructions to any euro area government or its ministers, in the same way as euro area governments and EU institutions are not in a position to issue instructions to the ECB.

However, he said he thought the decision to protect bondholders was the right one.

Draghi reiterated his position that the ECB cannot appear before the upcoming banking inquiry, telling Carthy:

“Owing to the ECB’s accountability to European institutions and primarily to the European Parliament, the ECB is not in a position to participate in inquiries conducted by national parliaments.”

However, Dragi did add that the institution “stands ready” to interact on an “informal basis, outside the context of the banking inquiry”.

Speaking on Morning Ireland, Carthy said he was not satisfied with Draghi’s stance, saying the letter “reinforces” the need for the bank to send representatives to appear before the inquiry.

European Parliamentary elections Matt Carthy and Gerry Adams Niall Carson Niall Carson

“The letter is long and in some respects detailed, but it raises as many questions as it does answers,” Carthy stated.

Carthy said he and fellow MEPs “will do whatever we can to get any level of engagement” and called on the government and banking inquiry committee to “exert enough pressure” on the ECB to provide witnesses and documentation.

The legal structures needed to compel politicians such as Bertie Ahern and Brian Cowen, as well as senior bankers and institutions, will be signed off on today. It’s unlikely the ECB will be included in this.

The agenda

  • Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald will be answering questions at 9.30am.
  • Children’s Minister James Reilly will appear before the health committee at 9.30am. Afterwards, Liam Downey, Chairman Designate of Vhi Healthcare, is set to answer questions.
  • Taoiseach Enda Kenny, Tánaiste Joan Burton, Finance Minister Michael Noonan, and Public Expenditure Brendan Howlin will all attend the launch of the Strategic Banking Corporation of Ireland’s first phase of loans for SMEs at 10am.
  • As it’s Thursday, the Tánaiste will be fielding Leaders’ Questions at 12pm.
  • The Seanad will debate legislation on lobbying (1.15pm) and workplace relations (2.30pm).
  • The contentious issue of clamping will dominate the Transport Committee’s agenda at 2pm, with Minister Paschal Donohoe appearing.

Inside Leinster House

Michael Noonan and Pearse Doherty had great craic during yesterday’s Oireachtas Finance Committee meeting – yes, really. Must be the spring weather.

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What the others are saying

  • The Taoiseach will spend €900,000 on assistants and advisers this year, according to the Irish Examiner.  
  • The Irish Dail Mail reports that €1 million is set to be spent on refurbishments at Government Buildings in 2015.
  • A growing number of Fine Gael TDs want the coalition to seriously consider selling the State’s stake in Aer Lingus, notes the Irish Times.
  • Several papers report on the €300 million set to be invested in social housing. 

In case you missed it

  • Irish Water’s head of communications stopped by for an interview.
  • Gerry Adams told Enda Kenny he was trying to ‘prick his bubble‘. In separate news, the Taoiseach said he turned down the offer of extra security
  • The Equality Minister Aodhán Ó Ríordáin faced a backlash after posting an ironic tweet about racist Chelsea fans.
  • The banking inquiry was told allowing Anglo to collapse would have been a mistake. 
  • An anti-drugs campaigner told the Oireachtas Justice Committee that the drugs problem in Dublin is getting worse, partially due to Garda resources being diverted to water protests.  

On the Tweet machine

There was good will on Twitter yesterday, after the adoption rights bill was passed in the Seanad.

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    Mute Shane McGrath
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    Nov 30th 2022, 1:00 AM

    Digital money loses value on each transaction. The banks and government chip away at the value until they have total and utter control over your currency. That is not democracy. The Irish government’s agenda is to regulate and account for all money in circulation. This legislation is a peacemeal gesture to trick Joe public into believing governments want to give people a choice. I’ll let you in on a secret, they don’t. The Irish government don’t now, and never will, work towards a better society. They don’t care about you. If they cared, they’d fix education, health care, housing and the cost of living. They can. They just won’t. The reason for this is the same as it has been since the

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    Mute Shane McGrath
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    Nov 30th 2022, 1:03 AM

    @Shane McGrath: …..foundation of the Republic. Votes. Irish politicians, save a small few genuine patriots, join the public service so the public can service them. They join as an end in itself, not to fix anything. And all they care about is staying on that salary, staying in government and getting through to pension time. Irish politics is a smarmy, vulgar and distasteful world.

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Nov 30th 2022, 1:03 AM

    @Shane McGrath: Absolutely well said Shane.

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    Mute Realist
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    Nov 30th 2022, 7:29 AM

    @Shane McGrath: I’m not saying the government is perfect, far from it but you can’t just wave a magic wand and fix all those things. It doesn’t work like that. As a country we are massively exposed to global events, we have too much red tape at a local level – on housing specifically. Healthcare is a spiralling mess that will never be fixed. We have one of the fairest societies in the world when it comes to gap between rich and poor, with a very generous welfare model. That said it’s the middle that get squeezed.

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    Mute Eric Foley
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    Dec 1st 2022, 9:03 AM

    @Shane McGrath: so who are these ‘patriots’ you mentioned?

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    Mute Paul Gorry
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    Nov 30th 2022, 12:13 AM

    Cash is king imo. I’d rather but it under me bed than pay a bank to mind it for me.

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    Mute The Boss
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    Nov 30th 2022, 12:23 AM

    @Paul Gorry: what’s your address Paul?

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    Nov 30th 2022, 12:31 AM

    @The Boss: 221B Baker street London.

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    Nov 30th 2022, 5:42 AM

    All businesses in all sectors should be made accept cash.

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    Mute Gert McNulty
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    Nov 30th 2022, 5:52 AM

    @Grant Masterson: legal tender as far as I remember is everything except cheques. Businesses had to acept in tge past . Got an A in junior cert business rofl

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    Mute David Mc Cabe
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    Nov 30th 2022, 6:40 AM

    In a cashless society if the Internet goes down due to cyber attack, under sea cables being cut everything would stop. Nobody could buy anything, no fuel for your car, no food could be bought, no purchases of any kind.

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    Mute Sean
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    Nov 30th 2022, 8:23 AM

    @David Mc Cabe: yeah well cash would run out shortly after that since most people get it from ATMs and don’t have that much out at one go so we’d be down to bartering hens!

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    Mute Declan Edward
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    Nov 30th 2022, 6:54 AM

    I have refused to give my custom to any business that refused cash during covid and any that refuses it now. If my money is not good enough for you, you won’t be getting any of it

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    Mute Liam Russell
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    Nov 30th 2022, 12:47 AM

    I find it the opposite here in the West, takeaways doctors and pubs ask for cash.

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    Mute Earth Traveller
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    Nov 30th 2022, 8:49 AM

    @Liam Russell: I usually find that the ones asking for cash don’t like to give receipts either. I wonder why.

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    Nov 30th 2022, 8:59 AM

    @Liam Russell: what’s a takeaways doctor?

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    Mute John Barry
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    Nov 30th 2022, 8:13 AM

    I walked out of IKEA a few months ago. Left 2 trolleys full of stuff with nearly €800 because they refused cash. The manager was an absolute kn*b. Speaking down to me cos I wouldn’t use my card. So I walked out.

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    Mute John Moylan
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    Nov 30th 2022, 8:23 AM

    @John Barry: from IKEA’s own webpage:
    “What payment methods do you accept?
    At IKEA stores, we accept bank cards (Visa, MasterCard, AMEX, Discover and Diners Club), IKEA Gift Cards, CASH and certified cheques and bank cheques.”

    Did you lodge a complaint with corporate over it ?

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    Mute Sean
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    Nov 30th 2022, 8:25 AM

    @John Barry: why wouldn’t you use your card though? What was the back story?

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    Nov 30th 2022, 9:00 AM

    @John Moylan: Yes I looked at the site when I went home & sent an email which I got a reply saying “thank you for your email, we’ll be in touch within 3 days” Still nothing back.

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    Mute John Barry
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    Nov 30th 2022, 9:01 AM

    @Sean: Back story?? No back story. I just didn’t want to use my card out of principal. As a consumer, I should have a choice of what course of payment I can use.

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    Mute Mark
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    Nov 30th 2022, 10:02 AM

    @John Barry: a store is under no obligation to take cash as a form of payment for a debt. They can refuse cash if they want. Why didn’t you just pay by card

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    Mute Paddy Kennedy
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    Nov 30th 2022, 10:17 AM

    @Mark: No they can’t. I don’t know where you got your info but that is wrong. Cash is legal tender and they’re legally obliged to accept it.

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    Mute Kevin Collins
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    Nov 30th 2022, 10:23 AM

    @John Barry: So you spent hours navigating your way around and queuing up in IKEA only to walk away empty handed out of “principal”? Boy, you really showed them up, Karen.

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    Nov 30th 2022, 11:28 AM
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    Nov 30th 2022, 2:30 PM

    @Kevin Collins: Haha I was in there for less than 30 minutes cos I knew what I wanted & where it was. One person in front of me in the que. So wasn’t a waste of time Bridie

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    Mute John Barry
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    Nov 30th 2022, 2:32 PM

    @Mark: I guess you didn’t check the citizens information. Cash is legal tender & is therefore able to be used in any transaction for goods in any business.

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    Mute Mark
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    Nov 30th 2022, 2:49 PM

    @John Barry: again I don’t think you understand legal tender. The term means they can be used for debt repayment, it does not mean they have to be accepted. The 1c coin can’t be used to pay off a mortgage, or your rent.

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    Mute Derek Lyster
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    Nov 30th 2022, 7:38 AM

    Banks cant make much money off cash so you can be sure they’ll do all the can to get rid of it

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    Mute David Daly
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    Nov 30th 2022, 9:09 AM

    I was always under the impression that Cash was Legal Tender and shops etc were oblidged by law to accept. I’m flabergasted.

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    Mute Mark
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    Nov 30th 2022, 12:26 PM

    @David Daly: Legal Tender only means it can be accepted as a form of debt repayment. But it can be refused, for instance a €0.01 coin is legal tender but cannot be used to pay for large debts, like a new car. There is no law requiring a business to accept cash. They generally allow card payment as the alternative payment method

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    Nov 30th 2022, 1:53 PM

    Absolutely all businesses should take cash

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    Nov 30th 2022, 6:33 AM

    Cafe near me don’t accept cash.

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    Mute Paddy Kennedy
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    Nov 30th 2022, 7:24 AM

    @ChadChaderson: It’s legally obliged to take cash. Put in a big order then tell them you don’t have anything except cash and see how quickly they change their approach.

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    Mute Sean
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    Nov 30th 2022, 8:24 AM

    @Paddy Kennedy: it just said in the article they are not legally obliged to accept cash if they have notices up.

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    Nov 30th 2022, 10:19 AM

    @Sean: Why don’t you check the legislation? That has the same effect as car parks saying they accept no responsibility for damage or injury caused on the premises and guess what happens when someone has an accident there? The sign is produced and the owners are told that it’s not legally enforceable.

    Exact same, putting up a sign doesn’t usurp legislation because it’s written down in a window.

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