@Barra O Brien: so this WILL happen to a baby Vs this MAY happen to you as a smoker. Which is more on point in the graphics?

@Greg Kelly: well the cigarette packages are not on full display for young kids to see ..whereas these graphics images were on full display for young primary school going kids to see ..

@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: yes putting posters up near polling stations is ridiculous. There is nothing on those posters that should be shocking to abortion on demand advocates. The most shocking posters were those from ROSA with Savita’s face splattered on them. Used as a pawn in a game with a victory celebratory rave at Dublin castle. This is the meaning of life now.

@Greg Kelly: you do know cigarettes aren’t aimed at children right and that unless a person over the age of 18 shows them a pack they won’t see it.

The no posters were specifically put up outside schools, this meant children would of course see them

@El Diego: savita wasn’t used as a pawn.

Her parents fully supported the yes compaign and had no issues with video or photos of her being used by the yes side.

Of course that didn’t stop the no side using her pictures

@Greg Kelly: Classy Marlboro red cigarette would be perfect ! So true Greg, let’s ban these violent and disgusting graphic on cigarette packs. Thumb up !

@El Diego: Savita would be alive today if the 8th amendment had been removed

@Gus Sheridan: Savita would have been alive today if the doctors had done their job right and treated her properly ..you do know that they would ‘ve been able to give her that abortion if they realised (which they didn’t) that her life was at risk , right ?

@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: semantics Siobhan and exactly tyre reason why the 8th had to be removed. The fact is the medical team hesitated in their treatment because there was a foetal heartbeat. They could not offer treatment that would end that heartbeat. That they had to somehow determine when Savitas life was in danger was a direct impact of the 8th. They or she should never have been in that position.

@Barra O Brien: you’re right the cigarette line has been bandied about too much, there’s no comparison, cigarettes can kill, and abortion definitely kills. Great to see the masses out celebrating triumphantly as if it were a victory for equality. Face in hand.

@Kevin O’Donnell: have you something back this up with?

@Gus Sheridan: Alas, my unfortunate souls won’t in the future because it was repealed.

@Kevin O’Donnell: they could’ve offered treatment ..they could ‘ve given her an abortion if they copped her life was at risk ..it played a factor but it wasn’t the cause of her death..the HSE are ..due to medical negligence

@Greg Kelly: Anyone with any semblance of intellect would agree that the No campaigners let themselves down badly indeed with some of the posters , one of which , close to the Children’s Hospital, was a disgrace. I will not even repeat what it said . If ever there was a reason for the undecided to sway to the Yes side it was presented on a plate by the No Campaign. Just take a look at the complaints for verification of that . Shooting yourself in the foot comes to mind.

@Terry Cahill: and anyone with any intellect would have voted no, and many who voted yes got caught up with the sheep mentality.

@Greg Kelly: Greg. Another bitter No voter in denial.

@Fin Stack:

How is a person’s intellect relevant to their stance on abortion?

And who are these “many” you speak of?

@El Diego: “Diego”. Another bitter No voter in denial.

@Fin Stack: Another anonymous and bitter No voter in denial.

@Greg Kelly:

From your first comment -

Are you saying that abortion and smoking are equal and related subjects that should be debated interchangeably?

@Greg Kelly: yet another example of the hardline, uncaring attitude of the no campaigners. The expression “The means does not justify the end” has never been more apt.

@El Diego:

It appears you like to toss the term “on demand” about when discussing abortions.

Do you know what “on demand” actually means and what it refers to?

@Dog Eat Fog: people can be influenced by their peers to adopt certain behaviors on a largely emotional, rather than rational, basis. The government and media preyed on this and lead the yes agenda. the no side was bullied because it defended life and the association with minority of holy joes.

@Danny Rafferty: not bitter at all . In fact I congratulated the yes side on their win. Doesn’t mean I have to agree with abortion for unrestricted reasons because of what happens to the little boy/girl . Understand totally for medical/crisis reasons though .

@Fin Stack:

Of course people can be, and are, influenced by peers, media, events, etc.

In fact, some would argue that all decisions we make in life are emotional. And we retrofit a rationale post-process to validate the decision just made.

Now, this could be an interesting conversation all by itself, however, you still haven’t explained how intellect has anything to do with a person’s stance on abortion.

To you anti abortion may be the answer, to me it might not. Neither of us need our intellect to make that call, and both stances can be rationalised.

Yet, you would have it that your personal stance is the only objectively sound stance?

@Fin Stack: Hard to tell are you a troll….. Intellect seriously so nearly 70% of population had no intellect…. Would love to be fly on the wall during one of your intellectual dinners, say it could be intellectually enlightening for the rest of us (cough) laughing my ass off

@Fin Stack: No side bullied what are you talking about. They had the longer campaign A lot of journalists on their side constantly banging the drum and their social media campaign was way ahead of the YES campaign.

@Danny Rafferty: why would one be bitter for voting either or? Think most accept the result. My thoughts are that the campaign was vile from both sides, and probably mislead, especially since it was such a sensitive and complex issue. And it was probably a little simplified from the yes side, and the no side put more thought into their vote . Let’s see what the government do now..

@Gary Kearney: wow! Even the media would admit how wrong you are…

@Celtic_Horizon: QED

@Dog Eat Fog: ask terry, he brought intellect into the conversation.

@Greg Kelly: Greg, you lost, get over it.

@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: absolute rubbish, their hands were tied

@Martin Flood: I agree

@Greg Kelly: what about the woman going through an ectopic pregnancy? Or a delayed miscarriage? They need care. This change will let them access that care earlier now in their own country, with doctors who are familiar with them.

@The Risen: well you have that right. For starters Yes posters should at least have mentioned the word abortion. We were all voting for or against on demand abortion of course. ROSA putting Savita’s face on theirs claiming that she died because of the 8th was the biggest lie and disgrace of the campaign. Dr Boylan lying about Sheila Hodgers and the leader of the political wing of the woman caring IRA claiming that this was all about “hard cases” were other classic examples of lying from the Yes protagonists. Let’s get the popcorn out as dealing with this new “healthcare service” is going to make for great viewing. The offended atheists arguing with the angry “no way we won’t pay” champagne socialists on how this will work in practice.

@The Risen:

You do know the procedures involved in destroying Human life in utero?
The sick irony of it all is that the destruction of Human life should be celebrated as a Human right.

@Native: What is it about the ‘medical abortion’ procedure that upsets you the most ?

If you look at the stats, is abortion not an important aspect in the longevity of mankind?

A) 131m people born each year
B) 55m people die each year
C) 40-50m abortions happen each year

With the abortions, overpopulation seems set to rise, while without them, the rise would be threefold.

I’f you eliminated death by cancer, roads, dementia, heart disease, and stroke, and most other big hitters to boot, you would have less of an impact on overpopulation than you would by just banning abortion worldwide.

Banning abortion would spell disaster for species and environment. I think it’s fair to say this.

@Greg Kelly: stop talking about babies man. Nobody is killing babies. You can repeat it a million times and still it won’t be true. If you think a fetus is a baby then good for you but stop stating false statements…

@Claire: dear god are you that misinformed? Ectopic and early miscarriage was ALWAYS cared for by doctors or gynecologist. Is this what you voted on? How the hell can some people be so uninformed about facts? Btw I speak from family experience on both unfortunately

@Toki Wartooth: well as parents who lost A BABY , you comments are false and misleading. So who can I complain too?

@Greg Kelly: he was talking about the Yes posters

@Toki Wartooth:

Fetus/Foetus is Latin for “little one”

@Toki Wartooth: talk about the financial gain for the gov with abortion in place. If 17,000 abortions happen every yr like i believe it will the gov stand to save 5.1 billion euro. The Troika wanted this to happen and because of gullible people it did

@Gus McIntosh: We should put a lottery system in place each year to exterminate 40-50m people instead gus, it would be fairer on those that have no voice. You could take the first ticket….

@Toki Wartooth:

How does destroying Human Life sit with you?

@Native: Placenta is the ‘Latin’ for cake,doesn’t mean that I want a slice of it.

@The Risen: for once i agree with you. Facts are facts and arguements of either side should be exposed as lies or truth. Then the voter can indeed make an informed descion. This should go without saying that this shoud be done. Its common sense but on loads of issues they dont go by common sense but only act on an issue when the media highlight an issue and brew up a storm

@Francis Mc Carthy:

Errr, ok Francie, no need to explain your culinary preferences, prob a bit too early for Placenta anyway.

@Rambon: you think a mandatory lottery would be fairer than not having a choice? Are they not the same? And if I was to opt in, what would happen to my dependants? Your system is probably more flawed than you think!

@El Diego: What was the vote about again. Removing the 8th nothing no nothing less. Any other laws being made were not being voted on. Do not let the facts of the matter get in the way of a good rant.

@dec dunne: as long as there was a heartbeat, the pregnancy was regarded as of equal status. Even if the heartbeat was that of a non viable pregnancy. The referendum was about far more than just the supposed abortion on demand.

@OOOOH,SOMETIMES:

Degenerates like you that think the destruction of Human life is normal, some procedure.

@Rambon: ridiculous comment. Its over now get on with your life

@matthew o reilly: so people saw posters about what abortion does to a baby in the womb and then don’t like it so they complain but yet don’t want to face the reality of ending the life of a human.

Let’s ban those cigarette package warnings next because they are also too graphic?

@Ian Walsh: the whingers who voted for abortion on demand were whinging about seeing photos of the results of abortions. Snowflakes. You’re gonna reap what you sow hipsters. Suck it up.

@El Diego: *abortion on demand is a false statement as for most an abortion will not be available for 2/3 of the pregnancy under the proposed legislation.

@El Diego:They were “whingeing” due to the fact that those images were shoved in peoples faces that were coming in and out of hospitals and schools.They were “whingeing” that those images could have triggered emotional upset on families that have just lost a very wanted pregnancy.The only snowflake that has been on here the past while,has been you.

#wegotridofthe8th
#stillcelebrating

@matthew o reilly: pay more attention to the road then, have you actually got a license.?

@El Diego: you are a sore loser, get over it!

@Tom Molloy: you do know thw complaints were made before the referendum right ?

@Pius Flynn: Well it all backfired. Time for them to grow up. Two thirds of us have!

@Paul Furey: No poster hangers in Galway were physically attacked. But sure look, you won’t read about it in the Journal. You whinge about leaflets being put into magazines that kids may potentially read yet you voted to terminate lives of offspring, on demand, and deny them the right to become kids. At least think before you post.

@El Diego: an embryo never had a right to become a foetus,nevermind becoming a neonate.At least think before you post.

@El Diego: *nobody voted for abortion on demand, the proposed legislation says that in most cases abortion will not be an option for 2/3 of the pregnancy. Campaign is over, your lies are pointless

@Dave O Keeffe: so for first 3 months there is no abortion on demand??

Why are people entertaining this nonsense. He’s obviously the piss.

@Steve1234: Looks like they did more harm than good to the No campaign. Poor strategy thought out by the blind. We’re not in the 80s anymore, Most of us have grown up.

@Paul Furey: Yeah because 3 year olds were voting in the 80s, at least have some respect for your parents.

@John McQuaid: what a ridiculous statement with no proof. There is no argument. Yes voters voted for abortion on demand. How is that ever right in a compassionate and humane society? Even the US and UK recognise that as they try to amend legislation to trim the number of deaths. But if it makes you feel better.

@El Diego: Why do you believe that the well-to-do in society should always have easier access to a safe,medical procedure than those who come from a poorer background ? Is it the way that their lives don’t matter to the “love both” guys and gals.Is that it ?

The US people still believe that a woman should have access to a safe,legal abortions.
Or maybe, if the US could do something that could cut the danger of a pregnancy/childbirth to their citizens- just maybe, if they didn’t take millions of poor people off their health insurance- just maybe, if they didn’t grab newborn babies from mothers that have just given birth at their hospitals and then sell them onto some barren couple-just maybe if there wasn’t a child entering the disgusting foster “care” system every two minutes,a system where those kids can end up being abused by multiple “carers” throughout their young life.

That is the thing about ‘force birther jihadists’ ,they ignore all that..

@Tony Stanley: dead right! No more RC church telling us what to think!

@El Diego: snowflake

@Steve1234: So, I should be ashamed for voting in favour of something that, if I ever get pregnant, will save my health, and potentially my life?

@Steve1234: Still hurts doesn’t Steve? Losing the referendum.
You still can’t believe it, can you?
I bet your dentist tells you to stop grinding your teeth. Am I right?

@John McQuaid: Very same as 83 you are right. They bullied the people into so many constitutional votes and thought they could do it again. They nay have learned their lesson now

@Jack McGready: tell us about the priest asking for the removal of a donation bin from church grounds for promoting a yes vote. Charity begins where the church tells you…

@Barra O Brien: ending lives on demand isn’t very charitable now is it?

@El Diego: if it means that a young woman or a mother of 4 children can get on with living their lives,then yes,it is…you do do a lot of whingeing..

@John McQuaid:
LOL!
Don’t believe everything Fine Gael tell you.

@Barra O Brien: They didn’t promote a Yes vote but were asked to remove the bin because they refused to advocate for a no vote which incidentally they are prevented by law from doing.

@Kate Flaherty:
It may have not occurred to you but the yes vote succeeded because the Catholic voters decided that it was unacceptable for distressed women to be forced to leave the country to procure an abortion and to cater for the hard cases any longer.In other words it was going to happen anyway.
The biggest problem was zealots on both sides . Most people are just trying to live their lives as best they can because life is not black and white.
It does not mean that people have given up their faith, it means compassion won out.

@Greg Kelly: so now you’re pro-choice? Your evolution is fascinating

@El Diego: you are a troll , dont feed this one folks!