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A SEARCH HAS resumed for a fisherman who is feared to have fallen from his boat off the Mayo coast.
A relative of the man, who was in the boat alone, raised the alarm late last night after he failed to arrive home.
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As a mother herself Mary Lou must surely have some understanding of the the pain & hurt that was inflicted on the McConville children by this repulsive atrocity carried out under the name of “war”! The Allegations against Adams have to be investigated once and for all. SF so often preaches the word “justice”, the McConville family are entitled to just that. If he’s innocent he’s nothing to worry about .
How about truth and justice commission for all in north. Sinn Fein have been calling for this for years – fallen on deaf ears as the Irish and British governments wouldn’t come out in a good light I’d imagine.
What if Adams is guilty ? – or they get irrefutable evidence? or if he is convicted by a jury of his peers? – interesting to see how his cult members react.
I am a supporter of SF and I’m all for the PSNI investigating every crime that occurred during Troubles, but I do question the effort that goes into some cases while others are completely forgotten about. Why the hierarch of victims. Did people ever hear of Joan Connolly, a mother of 8, shot dead by the British army during the Ballymurphy massacre, which the other day the British government claimed was not in the public interest to investigate further. Her family have every right to seek justice, just as the. McConvilles do.
Why are only crimes committed by republicans and loyalists from the past still being investigated, while those carried out by soldiers are purposely ignored. Paramilitaries should pay for their crimes but so too should British soldiers, who murdered just under 200 civilians, and not one soldier was ever charged with any of these murders!
I am not a SF supporter but I do find it strange that comments are open for this story while the man is under arrest and yet closed for bankers when they were arrested.
What if? Get a grip. What if me aunt had balls. Let’s wait for some facts. Don’t the Journal usually disable comments when someone is arrested but not convicted.
Even if you are one to argue that the conflict in Northern Ireland was a war, to disappear somebody is actually a war crime under international humanitarian law. So no matter what way you look at it, the murder of Jean McConville is completely indefensible.
Pat soldiers have been charged in the past. You confuse a soldier protecting himself during a riot etc with blatant murder.
Do you honestly believe a soldier firing a plastic bullet to disperse rioters is the same as say the Kingsmills massacre where 11 innocent men were stopped on their way home from work, lined up by the roadside and shot dead?
There were no 200 murders carried out here by British soldiers, there were thousands carried out though by illegal terrorist groups.
Good man Sean, it’s interesting to see a FF man joining FG and Lab in exploiting a woman’s murder for political purposes. Are things that desperate for FF?
Also remember the many victims resulting from recieved transmissions being passed on to the various Crown Auxilliary Death Squads…..and Peaches of course!!
Your right Jamesy there were more than 200 murders carried out by them but I’m not including the shoot to kill victims or any other paramilitaries, just innocent bystanders. Get your head out of the sand, scores of nationalists had bullets put into them at point blank range in non rioting circumstances. But the way can you name me even 5 British soldiers charged with murder or manslaughter for these hundreds of killings seeing as you say some were charged?
Meanwhile, the selective “cherry-picking” style of British justice means: no investigation, no charges, no arrests, no media leaks, no massive press coverage for members of the Parachute regiment out on a vicious killing spree in Ballymurphy Belfast.
A mother of 8 was riddled to death with mutable high velocity rounds, blowing half her face off – 10 other Irish civilians, including a local priest were dispensed with that night – no questions asked – no investigation, just a blatant amnesty to kill!!
The soldier that shot the joyriders in Belfast in the early 90′s was jailed, I dont believe he was in the wrong as a car sped through the checkpoint and he opened fire on it, how was he to know who was in it. Theres a massive difference between that and going to somebodys house of place of work and assassinating them.
There were also scores of UDR personnel charged with various crimes throughout the conflict most notable the ‘UDR 4′. Look it up.
Billy McCaughey was an RUC man who was involved in UVF attacks, he was jailed for life.
I can research more too if you like.
You said there were NO security forces jailed. I think you need to admit you were wrong here Pat.
And I say again, firing in a riot situation is not murder, its self defence. Of course you’d just want every soldier or RUC man to stand there and get his head pounded in with bricks and bottles. Not in the real world Pat.
And dont try to say shoot to kill operations were murder, look at Loughgall where the IRA fired over 70 shots and detonated a 200lb bomb and wrecked half a police station, hardly murder on the part of the army when they fired at them and took them out.
Contrast that to a year later when the IRA placed a bomb under a van belonging to soldiers who were taking part in a charity fun run in Lusburn and ended up killing 6 of them. Thats an insight into how both sides fought their war here, the IRA fought like cowards while the army fought the way an army should fight.
KKK – Presumably he would be entitled to being tried before hand ?
Didn’t realise that you are now in the same “camp” of The Dissidents position on Gerry .
They have had a campaign for years now to try to discredit him.
There is even a utube piece listing the various Presidents of Sinn Fein from the foundation of the Party by them which lists the late Ruairi O’Bradaigh as having taken over from Gerry , about 30 years ago , followed by someone called Des Dalton – listed as being ” The current president” of SF ?
These are the characteristics of the credible “witness” types that are going to help you put him away, KKK ?
Stop Ciarrioch…you are embarassing yourself….It was I interesting to hear Mary Loo Roll whittling on Morning Ireland this morning talking about the “death” of Jean McConville as opposed to her murder…can’t even say what it actually was…pathetic.
KKK – Jean McConville was murdered.
No one disputes that . Splitting hairs on that subject is nonsense , in the same way that the British Army death Squads murdered all around them in Ballymurphy ?
What’s so interesting here though is that KKK – the great Rightwing moralist finds himself in the same moral position as a bunch of Terrorist Dissidents !!!
Isn’t that a funny position that you find yourself in KKK ? A bit of a dilemma , one would imagine? ……..a chara
Mary Lou is on the radio making a very thin argument about TUV and DUP and now the elections in the south – the house of cards is shaking… now accusing the ‘old guard’ of the PSNI…very very thin.
Well the other side of this is the following, Gerry Adams has always maintained he is innocent of these charges. He has now voluntarily presented himself to the PSNI for questioning. If he is charged then we will have issues. However, if he is unconditionally released then we can definitivly say that there is no evidence that he was involved in the death of Jean McConville and draw a line under these allegations.
I think Ray Burke presented himself to Garda as well, hardly proof of innocence. They did arrest him though, if Michael Martin was arrested by the Garda would you be so quick to defend him.
@Brendan – i think the problem is that it may be impossible to definitively prove either way.. if they have enough evidence to go to trial then it will be an issue. I’m surprised comments have been left open. I hope that SF will not embark on a policy of attacking the PSNI as being politically motivated – they have to be very careful on public pronouncements regardless of what they might say in private.
“If Michael Martin was arrested by the Garda would you be so quick to defend him”… No we would do the very same as yourself and use it to discredit him and the whole party, we would openly slander the man without one piece of evidence.
We have seen political policing in the North many times. Don’t forget the construction of Stormont Gate and the fabrication of a spying ring. The political system is nearly apoplectic at the rise of Sinn Fein and we expected this after the weekends polls.
But SF support the Police – and encourage people to go to them for justice? and you yourself have said that we should trust them if they come out and exonerate Mr Adams?
I just heard Mary Lou on newstalk refer to the current northern police force as the RUC many times to the point that the broadcaster had to correct her. Her answers relating to Gerry Adams IRA membership sounded pathetic
Brendon Ferron I would have thought you would be too busy to find the time to comment on articles in the journal??how about you go and do something productive with your time like I don’t know….putting up a convincing argument as to why people should vote for you?
A carefully orchestrated plan in order to make it political from SInn Féin..accuse everyone else of making it political while accidentally throwing around terms like ‘securocrat’ RUC i mean PSNI etc etc…you’ll find this sort of mantra by every single SF’er over the course of the day… the cult have been fed their lines.
Looks like $hatter might have made a phone call to the PSNI in a tactic to get people to start talking about SF in a negative manner in the run up to the EU and local elections.
Seems you are Inigo… seem you are very much deluded indeed, If you think FG are not capable of such a thing. Have you read a newspaper in the last few weeks???
Right you are. No reason the Torries or FG would want to visit any disrepute on Sinn Fein.
Why, Maggie would be spinning in her grave should such a thing occur.
Deffo a timely buyback by Team Shatter for re-instatement to the top table of Blueshirt Inc….could blow their collective face into the side of a tree….all being well!!
I’m not a SF supporter actually I’m an opponent of them in the locals. But this is clearly a political manoeuvre the people that can’t see that either are ok with Jean McConvilles murder being used as a political football or just don’t see who benefits from this action. Adams will be out in few hours…but the headlines are already out there, which was the whole point of this action.
Ha…what are you on about Martin. Ranting again…Am I going to have to give you a history lesson once again based on actual events where the IRA conspired with Nazi Germany to invade Ireland. You Provos are great for looking for the “truth” when it’s anybody else…God forbid you would tell the truth yourselves…pathetic.
@brendan – absolutely – but as i mentioned below – because of the allegations it will be quite difficult to prove either way. If the PSNI come out and say ‘he had nothing to do with it’ – then everyone will have to accept it and wish Mr Adams well and then he should be apologised to by those who in the Dáil and elsewhere wrongly accused him. I feel though that may only come about the other end of a trial.
@Brendan – you will accept the judgement of a British court of law presided over by a magistrate appointed by ‘Her Majesty’ ? That must stick in the craw a little.
Sinn Fein have fully singed up to policing and justice in the North. Now six people have been arrested on the back of these tapes. One has been charged as they incriminated themselves, four have been unconditionaly released, one remains in custody. If the current one is released unconditionally then they are innocent of any charge.
Lets see if that happens, I believe he will not be charged and we move on from there. I knew while canvassing last night this was going on. I was still out knocking doors, I will be doing the same tonight as well.
The Journal should do an article on how the legal system works both here and in Ireland so as to educate those people who think that hearsay and innuendo are enough to prove someones guilt. Likewise, trial by media does not make up for trial by jury. The amount of people who think that Adams arrest meant that he was guilty is astounding! We even had some idiots commentating last night that said that being released without charge doesn’t mean that you are innocent. This goes completely against the concept that everybody is innocent until proven guilty, a concept that has been around since Roman times.
In a serious case like this anybody who is a “person of interest” (based on inadmissible hearsay from 2 dissident republicans) has to be arrested so that anything said “may be taken down and used in evidence”. It’s a procedural issue and doesn’t involve handcuffs or anything as dramatic as the media are portraying. Adams knew this before he went up for this prearranged meeting. Don’t forget that Adams has been arrested and interned before so this isn’t the first time inside an interrogation cell. The man has spent most of his years being interrogated by the media and slogging his way through the mud slinging of politics. I would say that reports of his guilt are a pure exaggeration.
And you will do the opposite, no matter what.
Can you cite some level of proof that would satisfy you that Adams had no part in that killing?
My guess would be you can not.
Saul where did I say the Adams is a hero of mine. That aside can you point out where my defense of a persons right to be considered innocent until proven guilty goes against the norms of society. Everybody no matter who they are or what they are accused of has the right of presumption of innocence but I presume from your post that you don’t agree with that or am I wrong.
The reason that we have this presumption is because muppets like Sharon who posted below “Delighted he has finally been arrested. Let us pray he now just admits his guilt” get their information from tabloid rags and love the rabid mob mentality as opposed to the rule of law.
If I am guilty of blindly defending anything it is the blind defense of presumption of innocence, production of evidence, trial by jury and administration of justice. Do you have a problem with that?
SF gain in popularity is killing Kenny. FG have shown themselves to be party first and will pull any string they can to mess up opposition hopes.
I’ve never voted Sinn Fein but it’s like this. I’m not voting FF, Labour, or FG, it’ll have to be indos or SF. Irish politics is a real sh1tfest when you look at it.
Inigo he volunteered last month but the PSNI only decided to do it now, why? In NI a man is arrested for the UVF bombing of McGurks Bar and the UVF (yes they are still around you know) are blamed for a petrol bomb attack on an Alliance party office but there isn’t a peep out of the British media and barely a few lines in the Irish media.
In the Republic, we have water protests, SF looking at wiping out Labour and making huge gains not to mention Martin McGuinness upstaging Kenny and co by meeting the Queen of England.
All this is forgotten about now that Gerry Adams has been arrested. Coincidence?
Well Brian perhaps more evidence has come to light…. if the UVF’s political wing was in government in the north and their leaders were higher profile it might be an issue.
Also in the past month two other people were arrested and questioned – this is all on foot of the PSNI receiving those Boston Tapes relevant – so i think its a natural progression that the man named as being the head who organised the abduction is arrested for questioning.
What wrangles with me, as an independent republican, is how quickly Brendan Hughes contribution is being whitewashed from the last 40 years and suddenly a trusted man of Adams’ is now ‘untrustworthy’.
Inigo the reason Hughes is being whitewashed is because he didn’t toe the party line and so became a “dissident”. Now, who gave SF the right to say who is or isn’t a “dissident” republican is beyond me seeing as they were once the supporters of the “dissident” Provisional IRA. I certainly don’t need SF to tell me as to who is a Republican and who isn’t.
As for the Boston tapes, they are the real whitewash seeing as they are inadmissible in court as they were not taken under oath. This is just like the Stormantgate “spy ring” all over again. The usual morons will throw judicial procedure out the window and have now problem with using a families tragedy to score political points. Of course Enda Kenny’s use of Jean McConvilles murder to block any hard questions from Adams has lead to this sort of mud slinging.
Delighted he has finally been arrested. Let us pray he now just admits his guilt and we can move on without murderers, liars and criminals pretending they are normal, just like us. I hope the families of all he has harmed find some joy in this.
As with all matters linked to the “Troubles” the truth is seldom simple and never pure. Mr Adams is doing the right thing by agreeing to attend “voluntarily”. If the police have sufficient prima facie evidence or Mr Adams implicates himself then doubtless he will be charged with an alleged criminal offence, appear in court and be subject to due process in the fullness of time. Just how the DPP intends to adduce the “evidence” of Mr Hughes from secretly taped conversations in to such proceedings presently escapes me. This sort of posturing may indeed be politically motivated however it is nothing short of a cruel trick being played out against the McConville family who deserve better and who would have been afforded justice many years ago if there had been sufficient evidence against anyone far less Mr Adams. Hopefully a line can be drawn under this sorry saga following the inevitable release without charge of Mr Adams and the McConville family can be allowed to honour their poor Mother’s memory in peace and privacy. Mr Adams has his own unfinished business and must be allowed to get on with it. If however, he is guilty of any offence then let matters take their proper course.
Whatever the reasoning for the arrest, I think its unlikely to be politically motivated. People who plan to vote Sinn Fein, know all about the accusations leveled at Gerry Adams. The IRA stuff doesn’t hold sway at this stage. Not that its not important but people have made up their minds. Also they know SF are not simply Gerry Adams.
But she caught me on the counter
(It wasn’t me)
Saw me banging on the sofa
(It wasn’t me)
I even had her in the shower
(It wasn’t me)
She even caught me on camera
(It wasn’t me)
It never ceases to amaze me how people get sucked in by the obvious tinkering from the powers that be, in their attempts to dismantle the political strides made by sinnfein north and south, the man has always denied being involved in the woman’s disappearance, made himself available for questioning, and went there voluntarily. The tony o Reilly press are relishing this, but I’m confident voters will see through this blatant attempt to dismantle the political gains of sf, yes no one is denying what happened to Jean mc conville was wrong, but the people making these allegations are opposed to the peace process, and might I add would there be a peace process without Gerry Adams ?? Bertie ahern gets more credit than Gerry Adams in some parts of Ireland for the peace process which is a complete joke, it wouldn’t have happened without John Hume, Gerry Adams and Martin mc Guinness. In fact why hasn’t Bertie been arrested ??
As such are Sinn Fein, led by Mary Lou McDonald in this regard, open to accusations of using the investigation into a brutal murder for political advantage?
Of course, justice for Jean and the Ballymurphy 11. I agree. It just so happens that adams was arrested in connection with Jean’s horrific murder so we’ll start with him.
Mary Lou McDonald has questioned the timing of the arrest and alleged a conspiracy. Some points arise:
1 Contrary to what was portrayed last night the PSNI arrested Adams, he did not arrange for a meeting. He had offered himself for questioning but it was the police who decided they wanted him arrested last night.
2 The question over timing makes little sense to me. We know there is an ongoing investigation. We know Gerry Adams offered himself for interview 5 weeks ago. Had he been arrested 5 weeks ago it would still have been in the run up to elections. In any case you would expect the police to want to carry out further investigations before the arrest once such an offer is made so that a comprehensive interrogation could be carried out, an immediate arrest would have been very curious. 5 weeks seems a very reasonable period
Gerry is doing his best to put a positive spin on this. Hardly credible though that he ‘volunteered’ to spend the night in jail.
Wise move to pre-emptively contact the police if you have a skeleton in the cupboard and are at risk of being arrested. You can tell the media you ‘volunteered’ – rather than you were arrested, or gave yourself up.
Big gamble for Mary Lou to call this a political football. Gerry must be very confident that no evidence exists that traces back to him.
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