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THE SITE WHERE the leaders of the 1916 Rising surrendered is to be made into a commemoration centre.
Minister for Arts Jimmy Deenihan today approved revised designs for the centre at 14-17 Moore Street in Dublin.
The buildings are also the site of where the provisional government was set up during the Rising.
Minister Deenihan said the decision, which has been discussed for years, will “secure the future of one of the most important sites in modern Irish history”.
He praised the work by relatives of the 1916 leaders and their supporters who led the campaign.
Without their determination and commitment, these buildings – which had been planned for demolition as recently as 1999 – would never have survived.
‘Red letter day’
The Save 1916 Group said they warmly welcomed the plans and said the government had made the right decision.
“This is a red letter day for us as we have campaigned for years to have these houses fully restored,” said John Connolly, the grandson of James Connolly.
I am certain our forefathers would be pleased that the site of the final act of the Rising will be preserved in an appropriate way to the benefit of future generations.
A preservation order was placed on the four houses in 2007, and it was announced last year that they would be converted into a national monument.
“Together with the interpretative centre planned for the GPO, the Moore Street commemorative centre will provide a key focal point for our commemoration of the events, the people and the sacrifices they made in 1916,” said Minister Deenihan.
Timing
However he said that there was a “limited window of time” to have the centre fully completed by the time of the centenary events in 2016.
The four houses are currently owned by NAMA, which will put up €5 million for the development of the commemoration centre.
A number of new conditions must be met in order for the centre to go ahead, including a new wall to be put in place at number 14 Moore Street and a new building at the side of 17 Moore Street.
The Minister said that the plans have been considered in detail in relation to the development of the wider area around Moore Street.
Sinn Féin has strongly criticised the decision to develop a shopping centre at the lanes surrounding Moore Street, which is also part of the plans.
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Wow great news, have to say I am surprised. Here’s to more good decisions about our historical sites.
sadly this development is to facilitate the building of a shopping mall and nothing else, bankrupt developer is to be given 5 mill to facilitate this, The relatives of Pearse,Connolly,Clarke,Ceannt,Macdonagh and 10000 supporters on Facebook are outraged with the ministers decision…. the relatives mentioned who are overjoyed are 3 people who have been lobbying for chartered lands
Sadly the wool is been pulled over our eyes here, A nama based developer who owes 2bn to the taxpayer ,has been named as a member of the maple 10 with no experience of historical restoration is to be let loose with a wrecking ball in Moore st, The relatives group which has representatives from ALL the families is outraged.. the group named above support the developer and always have …..shocking really
On the face of it a great decision. We should thank all who fought to preserve our history and indeed the minister for making the right call.
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Anthony ,sadly this development is to facilitate the building of a shopping mall and nothing else, bankrupt developer is to be given 5 mill to facilitate this, The relatives of Pearse,Connolly,Clarke,Ceannt,Macdonagh and 10000 supporters on Facebook are outraged with the ministers decision…. the relatives mentioned who are overjoyed are 3 people who have been lobbying for chartered lands..
A nama developer who has been named as a member of the maple 10 has been given a further 5m ……talk about pulling the wool over the public’s eyes
Good. Not enough is done to remember Ireland’s patriot dead.
If only there was someone to start another revolution
Great news for the area.
Thankfully the right decision has been made, hopefully they’ll have it ready for 2016.
Fantastic news..long overdue
In an unpopular government I have to say Jimmy Deenihan is a minister who is known to be thoroughly committed to doing the right thing on matters such as this. Great call for our heritage.
NO, The relatives group who have been battling to have the site saved have been snubbed . Bankrupt developer and named maple 10 member Joe o reilly and chartered land have been given a further 5 million by jimmy deenihan, the relatives named above consist of 3 people who have been lobbying on behalf of chartered land .meanwhile The relatives group who have the support of all the families and over 10,000 people on fb have been ignored…
Super news.
But what’s going to become of the non nationals and their dodgy mobile phone shops ?
Don’t worry, they’ll be looked after by the Government…. like usual
Ahh a nationalist and a racist, makes sense.
David you Clown.
What was racist about my comment ?
Nationalism is inherently racist.
It had racist connotations – the suggestion that “non nationals” and “dodgy shops” are inherently linked.
Sorry Derek, nothing. Your’s was funny.
Alex said foreign nationals will be looked after by the government…like usual. As if the Irish government favored foreign nationals over Irish people and they were dependent on government welfare more than Irish people. Neither of which is true.
@Ben Smith – Nationalism is not inherently racist. I would describe myself as a nationalist, and I believe that all ethnic groups deserve the right to fulfil their own destiny under their own territories and institutions and under whatever form of sovereignty they desire. I do not, however, believe that certain nationalities, ethnicities, religious groups, cultural groups, etc. are superior or inferior to others. As an Irish nationalist, I also don’t see any issues with non-nationals moving to Ireland for work and to better their lot.
Excellent, long overdue…
“Commemorative centre” sounds like a bit of a half hearted rush job just to meet the 2016 deadline. Crazy that it takes the 100 year anniversary for them to think of doing anything at all. There is so much that could have been done as far as an interactive museum or recreations and walking tours in the likes of the GPO for decades. Our history is a fascinating one, and at this stage we should be selling it not ignoring. No surprise they are considering dropping history from the curriculum.
Likewise the Moore Street markets should be seen as something of an asset and made better rather than kicking them out for yet another developers plans to blandify the city.
It’s great news. It’s a part of our history that should be preserved.
Great news. Sinn Féin worked very hard to help preserve these buildings for future generations.
What?? How?? The buildings are in a jock!
Have a look at a few articles above this to see what contributions Sinn Féin make
That you n365 or jamsey, david or pickart??
Beautiful buildings, stunning architecture.
sinn fein arn’t that happy with this proposal
Great news , S F fought hard for this street to be preserve
Wasn’t there an issue about a local bakery that’s in one of buildings not included that will have to close now even tho it’s been there for generations? Surely they could have done the whole row? Just a thought…
ha the bakery hasn’t been there for generations, it was there for a few years, they moved into a building they knew was going to be knocked down in a few years
It’s called ‘The Paris Bakery’, it’s a great addition to Moore Street but it has only been there a few years. If it needs to make way for the new centre I suppose there’s nothing that can be done. Hopefully they’ll get properly compensated for the disruption to their business and be able to relocate somewhere appropriate.
They were terrorists . They ruined Dublin. They had no mandate.
Wow…. you, Pickart and Jamesy Boy (assuming you’re not the one person on multiple accounts, which seems likely) are in a league of your own for stupidity. ..
@ n365
Wrong again, the british army destroyed dublin at that time.
The British army bombed the sh!t out of Dublin
Try reading a book you ignoramus !!!
The British army with the support of the Irish people it should be noted. The facts are that most people disagreed with the rising. The Home rule bill has passed but was delayed by the war.
Home rule didnt happen though did it dave.
What do you call the Anglo-Irish treaty then ?
That which came after…… go on tell me heres a hint the……
Of………
The War of Independence, so we fought a war for a treaty which wasn’t that different to the bill they had offered to us a decade before. A treaty which didn’t give us what we wanted but gave us the “freedom to achieve freedom”. In the words of Miles Dungan
“When you examine the Treaty document closely you wonder what all the fuss was about. Why did it have to be ‘peace by ordeal?’ Why had a debilitating and vile war been an essential prerequisite to something that was not remarkably different from the rather disappointing and inadequate Home Rule Act of 1914? Asquith’s template had legislated for a form of dual monarchy. So did the Treaty. Northeast Ulster was (albeit temporarily) excluded from the operation of the 1914 Act. It was still excluded as Northern Ireland after the Treaty. It remained as excluded as ever after the Civil War. Was it for this…?
We could have had Home rule in 1918 and politically and socially frozen our British institutions while building up an Irish army for home defense. Then merely forced the British to extend our sovereignty further like we did in the 1930s and 1940s. While having an army to force the point.
Well done you, aren’t you a clever boy, but not too clever, we weren’t going to get home rule . Lolll!!!!! SILLY BOY!!!
Try reading a book you tool!
We got home rule, it was called the Anglo-Irish treaty. There was very little difference.
The Ulster volunteer force were formed to oppose the introduction of the Home Rule bill.It could be argued that If it hadn’t have been for world war one delaying the bill that a civil war between the nationalist south and unionist north was a most likely outcome.
*Tan War. Independence is yet to be realised.
Commemorating a gang of terrorists is very sad indeed. Present day terrorists will gain some satisfaction from this ill conceived betrayal of law-abiding citizens
Word can’t express your absolute idiocy.
@ pickart,
I think your confused, this article is about the freedom fighters who contributed to irelands independence not the likes of colonial terrorists ie, black and tans, british army in ireland in 1916, hope I cleared that up for you I know your a bit on the distorted history simple side.
They were utter incompetents who couldn’t fight for shit and most people hated.
Whether people like it or not, it’s part of our history…it’s a good idea that these buildings are to formally recognised because of their historical significance. I would assume that these buildings will also be completely restored. Probably the biggest shame for Dublin and indeed Ireland was that there was a conserted effort by authorities to remove beautiful buildings and monuments that could be linked to our “Colonial” past with buildings replaced by Communist type structures…. Georgian Dublin was destroyed as a result of this uneducated idiotic criminal thinking….
We have the GPO, stuff actually went down there. There are bullet holes.
Nobody cares or will go too a museum in a boring old house. It’ll be subsidized to stay open for decades costing millions.
Could not agree more with you
Hahahaha David, if I wasn’t laughing so hard at your ridiculous comment, I would try and talk some sense into you.
@ david burke,
David without insulting you, I have to inform you the first provisional government of ireland was set up or as you put it “went down” here that is very significant.
Facts are almost nobody supported the rising then and most people don’t care now. So yeah it’ll cost a pretty penny to keep open.
@ david,
I have to say you and n365 are as dumb as shit girls.people did support it after the fact and they saw how evil the british of that time could be and so unjust and murder the leaders of the rising.
How unjust were the British exactly? As for the rising leaders? They deserved to be executed .
“are as dumb as shit girls”
So you are a sexist as well as not knowing your own nations history.
Was the support of the rising when civilians tried to stop it? Or when they pelted them with rubbish when they gave up? Or when civilians tried to attack them for ruining the city and the British army has to protect them.
Yeah the British shot them (hardly murder now) which was stupid and really not needed since the Rising never posed any threat. Terrible mistake by the British.
Agree with your sentiments but just one historical footnote for you… In August 1798 a 32 county republic was declared after the French forces and local pikemen ran the redcoats from mayo.. Castlebar was the capital of this republic with the idea that once the east coast was free that the seat of government would move to Dublin. Unfortunately other risings in wexford and Antrim were less successful and many other counties were loyal to the crown.. Anyway my point is the first provisional republic was actually declared and proclamation read on the steps of the bishops palace( now the old deanery) Killala, co mayo 23/08/1798…and not during the Easter rising
Red thumbs for you for your fancy facts.
One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.
Of course Daithi de Burca the facts must not be allowed to spoil the truth. Like that stuff went down in Moore street too. And that the execution of the bowsies in Kilmainham caused the people of Dublin to move from disdain to support. And that the proclamation of the Republic in 1916 led direct to the autonomy of 1921. And that Ireland is yet unfree.
I said the executions were a terrible mistake….
Green thumb for a very interesting comment Ciaran. Ignore trolls by the way.
Dont you mean the oppressors”terrorist”
David your comments display ignorance of historical fact.It’s the site at which Pearce signed the notice of surrender at the end of Easter week in 1916. Maybe the idea of having a museum is so present and future generations aren’t so ignorant of our history and refer to our nations founding father’s as terrorists, catholic bigots and lunatics.
Our nations founding father was Cosgrave who built a state and handed it over when he lost an election. I respect democrats.
I don’t see the historical significance of the building he signed the surrender in. The surrender sure, the GPO or Biscuit factory sure.
Cosgrave eh.?
WT Cosgrave was it?
The same WT Cosgrave who fought in the 1916 Easter Rising under Eammon Ceannt at the South Dublin Union. Who was sentenced to death for his part in the Rising and was lucky to escape been executed having his sentence commuted to life imprisonment. Who was elected in 1918 as an mp along with 72 other Sinn Fein in a democratic election giving the party the democratic majority and therefore a democratic mandate.
Sure but do you notice we but emphasis on different parts of his life. I most respect the bit where he built a state and independent police, army and justice system and then handed it over to FF when he lost an election.
Never a truer word said Bambi.
I think the Rising and the Irish who fought for Irish freedom was an important event in our history.
I do however also think that the struggle for Home Rule and Irish freedom up to that point is one that shouldn’t be overlooked either, neither also the Irish who fought in the World War One.
I think though that given the heightened emotion on the subjects expressed by both here, both were right.
It’s best to say that this chapter in our history could be best described by saying “It’s complicated”
Adding to that, I think it’s fantastic we have preserved the buildings. They are part of our history and we should be proud of that.
Utter waste of money on a place of no historical importance and no architectural importance.
Enjoy your red thumb fix…
David, did you read the article? Or did you just decide to leave a stupid comment without having read the above article? It is a 1916 site, which holds huge historical importance.
@ david
To you maybe david but then again your an idiot
Nothing of importance happened there. A few self important, self-styled revolutionaries with no public support sat around and ran a government for all of few days, doing nothing at all.
People got shot at the GPO and Kilmainham jail thats enough for the tourists.
I mean honestly, what of any importance happened there?
Is it worth the value of the houses not being redeveloped plus the 5 million to refurbish, plus other grants and the annual subsidy to keep it open when very few people visit.
Simple answer yes it is worth it, so history can be told and inform idiots like you who are few biscuits short of a pack.
So basically you don’t have answer then? I can wait for you to go look it up if you want…
It was in these buildings that the leaders officially surrendered to the British…
Really slow I see heres the answer in caps Y.E.S. its worth it cant be clearer
Wow that’s interesting. Come visit this museum. The leaders of a failed 4 day rebellion surrendered here.
That’ll bring in the crowds….
You’re spendin’ a lot of time on here for a lad who doesn’t care…you must be great craic…
Trolls be trollin..
I can watch the football and surf the internet at the same time. The wonders of modern tech.
My grandfather Captain Michael William O’Reilly led the GPO garrison from 16 Moore Street to the Rotunda
“When I awoke, Sean McDermott had come into the yard and had begun to address us, to tell us of the decision to surrender. He spoke briefly but very movingly and many of those present were weeping. Some time after he had departed, we were paraded in single column and marched out of the yard into Moore Street, headed by Captain M. W. O’Reilly and a Volunteer bearing a white flag.” (Sean Lemass – 1916 Rising)
“…It soon became evident that our position was somewhat hopeless, and Cumann na mBan was called upon to supply the messenger to go to British Military Headquarters, which I understand was situated in the Rotunda. Shortly Afterwards the question was asked if anybody had a razor and I immediately produced my safety razor outfit which was used in turn by the two Pearse’s, Connolly, MacDermott and Plunkett…” (Source: Bureau of Military History, WS Ref #: 886 , Witness: Michael W O’Reilly, Adjutant IV, Dublin Brigade, 1916 http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/reels/bmh/BMH.WS0886.pdf).
As the Minister stated, 16 Moore Street is “one of the most important sites in modern Irish history”.
If you get a chance to read the witness statements posted on the Bureau of Military History website, no matter what your perspective, it is hard not to conclude all Easter Rising participants were true heroes..
More on my grandfather Dr. MW O’Reilly who received his Honourary Degree with Dr. TK Whitiker can be found here. http://nialljoreilly.com/2011/07/26/dr-michael-william-o-reilly-december-1889-november-1971-my-fathers-father/ Happy holidays!
“Pearse and MacDermott stood over James Connelly’s bed, bending toward him, their faces white and unsmiling. The three men spoke in whispers for fifteen minutes, after which MacDermott, complying with a word from Pearse, walked over to nurse Elizabeth O’Farrell, who was attending one of the wounded men laid out on the floor. MacDermott said to her in a tired voice ‘Do you think you could find us a white flag?’…she turned and went into the next room to look for a piece of sheeting. MacDermott, becoming impatient, climbed through a wall hole into the next house where one of the officers Captain Michael William O’Reilly was shaving. MacDermott said ‘Doesn’t anyone around here have something we can use as a white flag?’ O’Reilly reached into his breast pocket and produced a large white handkerchief that hadn’t been laundered for a week. Without examining it too closely, MacDermott took it and tied it to a stick. He returned through the wall to No 16, where he found Pearse giving hurried instructions to Miss O’Farrell. …O’Reilly, who was standing by, went and opened the front door, stuck out the flag and waved it. A volley of bullets made him pull the flag back inside. He looked around at MacDermott and then at Miss O’Farrell who gulped nervously. ..O’Reilly turned to the door once more and stuck out the flag out a second time. He waved it gently back and forth without drawing any fire. MacDermott… holding Miss O’Farrell’s arm, led her forward. ‘God be with you!’, he said, and taking the flag from O’Reilly, handed it to her. It was forty-five minutes past noon…” Source: http://www.campaignmoorestreet.com/#/moore-street-1916/4573039122
Great piece of history and fair play to your Grand dad.
Sadly the Group of over 20 relatives inc The Pearses/Connolly’s,the Clarkes,The Orahillys to name but a few have been ignored . These people have been campaigning to have Moore st saved for nearly 15 years. The relatives named above have been lobbying for chartered lands ….now chartered lands have been given a further 5m to build a shopping mall on the site which as you pointed out was the most significant in Irish history .
The wool has been pulled over the eyes of the public…………….
I am so delighted. Well done the campaigners! Result!
Maybe we should commemorate the 250 innocent civilians who died as a result of the rising?
Correct we should
Sean hurriedly googles “British oppression in Ireland pre 1916″
You say tomatoe I say your
It’s tomato.Fool.
They were terrorists! Pearse was a fantasist. A motley crew of idiots. Their legacy is still here when people believe they were freedom fighters!! Freedom from what exactly?
From British rule you simpleton.
Do you honestly think that calling me names actually bothers me? Can you not argue your case without doing so?
@ n365
Fredom from oppressors , a foreign government seems as your a bit slow on the uptake, try reading history books.
*It’s “you’re” . Maybe you should try reading a book.
What oppression ?
Yeah, cos British rule was such a Nirvana at that time… Largest slums in western Europe and also the highest infant mortality rate.. What could have possessed them to try and change that!
Wrong Gordon. Dublin was no different to Manchester or Birmingham at that time.
Largest slums in western Europe was East London
No the largest slums were in Dublin. In the country the people were lucky to have mud cabins. We were badly abused by the English/British.
It may or may not be a popular museum, but it’s worth it to redevelop an absolutely abysmal street right next to O’Connell St.
Hope these buildings are preserved and renovated as near as possible to their original condition
Waste of money, and we need to stop worshipping dead nationalists. They were misguided poseurs fighting for some idealised Gaelic-Catholic utopia which has no relevance to today.
No Ben, it’s about self-determination. What we do with that is our responsibility, and isn’t fixed in stone. Freedom to make a balls of it ourselves if you like. That’s been the case for a while now anyway, but the winds of change are blowing.
The don’t like when people disagree with their myths but Ireland is finally willing to reexamine it’s history in a adult manner. Our connection with Britain is an intrinsic part of what it means to be Irish. Doesn’t mean you aren’t proud to be Irish or believe independence was worth fighting for. But you can question the decisions that were made that led to the Island being divided and the domination of the church.
We could have been New Zealand instead we remained something less.
We could have been New Zealand?It’s far from an example of a utopia society.
There are many social problems as a direct result of colonisation.
“We could have been New Zealand” Damn those plate tectonics.
Agree
Good news for the banana and illegal tobacco industries aswell
Sadly the Group of over 20 relatives inc The Pearses/Connolly’s,the Clarkes,The Orahillys to name but a few have been ignored . These people have been campaigning to have Moore st saved for nearly 15 years.
The relatives named above have been lobbying for chartered lands ….
now chartered lands have been given a further 5m to build a shopping mall on the site which as you pointed out was the most significant in Irish history .
we asked for an independent assessment of the site as the only survey done was paid for by the developer and we asked for the national museum to be brought on board ,yet chartered lands with NO experience in historical restoration are been let free with the wrecking ball…a sad day for Ireland
once again the public are duped
I say you’re semi-literate.
Lol!!! You still dont get it omg what a ddddoooooopppppeeee!!!!! (DOPE)
Im glad you correctly mentioned british oppression in ireland.
Sorry for taking so long had to google, idiot, your name was first after david, did you get that me oul pal, are u okay, your not crying are u :’(
That was brilliant Sean !!!!!!!! Well done you! Really clever. I can’t stop laughing . Brilliant delivery too. Did you think that up all by yourself? Good night idiot.
Ahhhh n365 dont be like that buddy, come on now!! Chat to you soon, take care.
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