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The current Luas stop at Charlemont. Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland

Moving MetroLink terminus from Charlemont would cost 'several hundred million' and delay project

A professor in transportation told The Journal that moving the terminus would mean a redesign of the system that could delay it into the 2040s.

ANY CHANGES TO the route of the proposed MetroLink project – including changing the terminus from Charlemont to the city centre – would cost “several hundred million” and result in a further delay to the project. 

One expert told The Journal that moving the terminus would mean “a complete redesign of the system” and he believes could result in the delivery of the project being delayed until the 2040s. 

It comes after Fianna Fáil TD Jim O’Callaghan yesterday called for the terminus of the proposed underground rail system to be changed from Charlemont to St Stephen’s Green or Tara Street.

The proposed MetroLink will have 16 new stations running from Swords to Charlemont and carry 53 million passengers annually. Construction is set to begin next year, with an opening year of 2035.

Addressing the second day of an oral hearing into the project, O’Callaghan said Charlemont will not be capable of supporting the estimated 10 million people that will visit the station each year, saying it will have a “detrimental impact” on the surrounding residential area.

Independent Senator Michael McDowell also called for the terminus to be changed, with both politicians in agreement that Charlemont was chosen for the terminus in order to facilitate a potential upgrade to the Luas Green line in the future. 

MetroLink project director Aidan Foley said the chosen terminus would still allow connections to the southeast and southeast, and would also facilitate an upgrade of the Luas Green line. He said he had visited the proposed location “several times” and thought it was an appropriate location for the terminus.

If the terminus were to be changed, it would be a costly process and could see the project delayed even further. 

ms16_charlemont_aeriallink1920x1080 An artist's impression of the MetroLink station at Charlemont. MetroLink MetroLink

During his submission to the hearing, Labour TD Duncan Smith asked Transport Infrastructure Ireland (TII) what impact a change to the proposed route of the scheme would have on the planning process and questioned how much of a delay it would cause.

MetroLink project director Aidan Foley told him it would have “a significant impact” and involve elements of “significant redesign”.

It would also have a negative impact on the cost scheme, he said, adding: “The cost for every year of delay is several hundred million.”

It was initially thought that Foley had quoted a figure of €700 million. However, a spokesperson for TII later clarified to The Journal that Foley actually said “several hundred million”. 

There have been a number of figures quoted in relation to the estimated cost of any delays to the project. 

Speaking at the Oireachtas Transport Committee on 14 February, TII chief executive Peter Walsh said that it would cost around €250 million for every year that the MetroLink is delayed. 

“During the pre-application consultation with An Bord Pleanála, we made it clear that delays to the project, given the scale of it, could be measured in time alone at about €250 million a year,” he said. 

a4_metrolinkmap_railwayorder_page-0001 A route map of the proposed MetroLink. MetroLink MetroLink

Last July, Public Accounts Committee chair Brian Stanley said it had been estimated that each year of delay “would add additional costs of between €100 million and €300 million.”

Duncan Smith told The Journal that he believes any added cost and redesign of MetroLink “could throw the entire project into doubt”.

“The engineering and interconnectivity reasons for the current route are well explained by TII and I believe equally a robust plan for a city that desperately needs this Metrolink. We cannot countenance any calls for such changes or removals of Terminus. It would be grossly negligent to the needs of the city,” he said. 

Brian Caulfield, a professor in transportation and Head of Department at Trinity College Dublin, told The Journal that to move the terminus would mean “a complete redesign of the system” which would cost “millions”. 

“It wouldn’t be a whole route redesign, but I think once you open up one part of it for redesign, you probably open up the whole thing,” he said. 

Caulfield said to look at a redesign, along with conducting further transport modelling and cost benefit analysis, “you’re adding at least another four years to the project at a conservative estimate before we could even get to start dates”. 

“When you start to do that, we’re talking about the 2040s by the time this would be operational.”

A spokesperson for the MetroLink project told The Journal that the Charlemont station is “an integral part” of the proposed scheme.

The spokesperson said the station was chosen as the terminus because it provides a short interchange distance to the Luas Green Line and is within a five-minute walk of the proposed Bus Connects A Spine and E Spine routes.

“The capability and flexibility to further extend the metro in the future, whether to connect onto the Luas Green Line or to provide a metro to the southwest of the city, is much better enabled and facilitated by the planned arrangements at Charlemont, which future-proofs the opportunity for such extension,” the spokesperson said. 

“Any change to the design of the scheme would lead to significant delays in the delivery of the MetroLink scheme and ultimately result in significant additional costs to the taxpayer.”

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    Mute Louise Tracey
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:28 PM

    Well done to those West Cork fishermen, you showed those Russians!

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    Mute Edward Fitzgerald
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:58 PM

    @Louise Tracey: it wasn’t the west cork fishermen that frightened the russian navy it was their irish mammys with the threat of the dreaded wooden spoon

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:09 PM

    @Edward Fitzgerald: haha. Comment of the week

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    Mute Da Dell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:23 PM

    @Edward Fitzgerald: Lol or maybe not lol. Even the threat of the wooden spoon is serious.

    I remember a story of some hurlers in NY that got mugged. They found the perpetrators and got their stuff back. The perpetrators then complained to the Police, saying they were attacked by Irish people with ‘gigantic wooden spoons’ :)

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:29 PM

    @Louise Tracey: Coveney threatened to send them Mick Wallace and ‘yer wan.’

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:37 PM

    @John Mulligan: would have been better to send you. You could bore them to death with your anecdotal bs and childish name calling.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:13 PM

    @Louise Tracey: ole ole ole ole!!!!

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:41 PM

    @Louise Tracey: let’s send them up the North now!

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:46 PM

    @Jonathan: Excellent idea.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:37 PM

    @Edward Fitzgerald: My Ma would bate the head off Micka Wallace and them Russians

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    Jan 29th 2022, 10:07 PM

    @Da Dell: says the kid who hides behind a pseudonym….

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    Mute Sean Mc Garry
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:29 PM

    Next the Irish fisherman are being dispatched to North Korea to diffuse growing tensions with the US.

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    Mute Deborah Blacoe
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:51 PM

    @Sean Mc Garry: Best comment! How about dispatching them to the Black Sea to monitor the Ukraine situation?

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:56 PM

    @Deborah Blacoe: They actually sent a body of rural gorilla turf cutters headed up my Ming Flanagan.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:00 PM

    @Sean Mc Garry: send in the irish mammys they’ll sort em out

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:02 PM

    @Sean Mc Garry: ah stop h ha

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:25 PM

    @Sean Mc Garry: Or send them out to Palestine to protect the Palestinian (Landowners)

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:28 PM

    Excellent now let’s just get rid of the American war planes out of Shannon

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    Mute FiannaFáilness FineGaelness
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:41 PM

    @tirnanog1979: Abso-fookin-lutely

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    Mute Adrian O'Donnell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:41 PM

    @tirnanog1979: But.. but… the yankee dollar..

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:42 PM

    @tirnanog1979: Not sure how that’s relevant? The US and Europe are our closest partners and friends. You accommodate your partners and friends. The relationship with Russia, on a bilateral basis, is at best businesslike.

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    Mute Gerry McCaughey
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:46 PM

    @tirnanog1979: are they “war planes” or civilian airlines like ATA carrying American troops? As far as I’m aware no weapons travel through Ireland. Am I wrong?

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:48 PM

    @Eoin Roche: and the us and eu relationships are of the lapdog variety

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:11 PM

    @Eoin Roche: Not sure about you being the God that decides what is relevant or not.
    Maybe this can be the start of better relations with Russia. It would help Ireland massively in not been so dependent on the US and being at risk from issues and changes in the US.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:47 PM

    @Eoin Roche: I’d rather my country not be a conduit for a super-military power which constantly causes issues, threats, wars throughout the world.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:42 PM

    @FiannaFáilness FineGaelness: It’s about time that debate was had in this Country, in depth and in detail.

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    Mute Da Dell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:48 PM

    @Eoin Roche: Well you have just excluded yourself from any of those debates.

    Stick to the kids stories of good and evil.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:03 PM

    @tirnanog1979: as a signatory to the international air transport agreement Ireland allows 2nd freedom rights to all signaturies, which is the right to land for a maintenance stop or refueling stop. We cannot break this agreement and flights that are commercial charters or scheduled operators and entitled to land in Shannon. We even extended these rights to Aeroflot to allow them operate flights between the USSR and Cuba. The USSR even had it’s own fuel depot in Shannon. So we are even handed any complying with our obligations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Convention_on_International_Civil_Aviation

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    Jan 30th 2022, 12:25 AM

    @Gerry McCaughey: You are right ..They just get the weapons when they get to where they are going…A nice technicality..legal ,but tell that to Iraq that they invaded because of weapons of mass destruction that never existed,

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    Jan 30th 2022, 11:46 AM

    @Niall Ó Cofaigh: Shanon airport also used sell Russian fuel but the US airlines had to be supplied with different fuel. Aeroflot was a big earner back in the day.
    All the military aircraft from various nations used Shannon. it was a perfect place for them.
    Massive runway and a neutral country.

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    Jan 30th 2022, 1:16 PM

    @Eoin Roche: 38% of Europe is in Russia.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:30 PM

    Russian Navy 0 – 1 Irish fishermen.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:33 PM

    @Munster1: should be reversed- we are the home team

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:10 PM

    @Jonathan O’Riordan: Should be 1 – 1. Everybody wins.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:57 PM

    @Nick Caffrey: sure why not give everyone a prize also

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:30 PM

    First getting Richard O Halloran home, now getting the Russians to back off, Simon is ending the week on a high, after a few major boo boo’s lately.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:51 PM

    @Sean Walsh: nothing to do with that clown

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:54 PM

    @Ed Cooper: codswallop

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:00 PM

    @Ed Cooper: So why did Richard O Halloran especially thank Simon Coveney and Michael D for their help ? These things are sorted out quietly and diplomatically in the background, albeit too slowly. Give credit where its due for God’s sake. No need to be so bitter about it.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:05 PM

    @Ed Cooper: I think he does deserve some credit here and for not jumping on the Russia hating/bateing bandwagon.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:10 PM

    @Sean Walsh: have you made any lately in your position as foreign aid to somewhere ?

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:11 PM

    @Ed Cooper: the word clown is used very freely many it takes one to know one

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:20 PM

    @Margaret Mcgarry: You’ve lost me, have I made any what lately ?

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:30 PM

    @Sean Walsh: she lost most people

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:40 PM

    @John Mulligan: maybe she should join your team of ‘lost’ people !

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:47 PM

    @Ed Cooper: of course it had

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:57 PM

    @Ed Cooper: so aside from him contacting the Russian
    Representative and requesting them to consider moving, and then receiving a letter from said representative confirming they would indeed move, it had nothing to do with him? Good man Ed you dumpling.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:59 PM

    @Sean Walsh: Be a party now

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    Jan 29th 2022, 9:47 PM

    @: wait til ya hear the Irish tax payer is down 36 million in regular installments for his release

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    Jan 30th 2022, 1:24 PM

    @Sean Walsh: Bring back Katherine Zappone as the go-between.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:30 PM

    Don’t mess with west Cork fisherman, Vladimir .

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:32 PM

    Wonders is this another case of a politian taking the credit for others endeavours
    Well done to our fantastic diplomatic department in Cork and their stealthy fleet of fishing boats

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:29 PM

    They knew that they stood no chance against the Irish fishermen. Good decision Russia

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:34 PM

    I’d say Putin was terrified after listening to Duffy on Liveline all week………

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:55 PM

    @Sean Higgins: In fairness Putin has done us all a favour in shutting up Duffy and in showing how wrong Duffy was in his ‘opinions’. That wont bodder Joe though, never has before, he will find something else to be outraged about.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:29 PM

    Don’t mess with the fishermen!

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:31 PM

    Well done to the Irish fishermen and the head of the defense forces for putting pressure on the Russians

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:30 PM

    The fishermen scared them off.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:29 PM

    Good news if true. A good win for soft power. I’m sure the Russians won’t mind if we verify their position throughout, just to be sure. Also the pollution of the ocean with munitions doesn’t respect any lines on a map, but one step at a time.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:38 PM

    @Eoin Roche: Ya tis amazing what can be achieved when people actually talk to another, as opposed to saber rattling rhetoric, dubious predictions and dubious intelligence driven hypothetical maybes.
    Do you still think your ‘inevitable invasion’ prediction is possible?

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:42 PM

    @Eoin Roche: If ya now worried about the environment, maybe ya can send a complaint to the US navy about all the damage being done by their many Fleets and Task Forces operating in almost every Ocean. Their carriers operate flights ops every day.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:46 PM

    @Eoin Roche: but but they only wanted the cables eoin.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:55 PM

    @Roy Dowling: The cables are 5,000 kms long Roy, they are just easier to access in the shallow waters of the Celtic Sea. Don’t tell me you’re that naive.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:40 PM

    @Eoin Roche: Not half as long as your ramblings & delusions.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:00 PM

    @Eoin Roche: Calling someone naive when you’ve literally been posting the same unverified cr ap for days. Yea ok

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    Jan 30th 2022, 10:29 AM

    @Roy Dowling: When he stops worrying about the fish he starts worrying about the cables. Those poor Russians won’t get a break to fire a few missiles.

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    Jan 30th 2022, 1:26 PM

    @Eoin Roche: In that case, we should be against all military exercises at sea……US/NATO included.

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    Jan 30th 2022, 1:29 PM

    @Da Dell: The Ukrainians are trying to talk it down as their US/NATO ‘allies’ are a bit overenthusiastic on ‘intervention’.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:50 PM

    Typical, Covney trying to take credit for the diplomatic work done by the fishermen.

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    Jan 31st 2022, 1:10 PM

    @Raymond Barry: Really ! so the Russians were afraid of the Fishermen

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:37 PM

    Send those fishermen to Ukraine to sort that out. Well done to all involved including Simon Coveney and the Russian ambassador.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:29 PM

    Mr Covney you are a hero! The Saviour ireland.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:32 PM

    @Anto Whelan: saviour of*

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:41 PM

    @Anto Whelan: it was the fishermen not that man

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:53 PM

    @Anto Whelan: who the flux is this guy?

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    Jan 30th 2022, 12:28 AM

    @Anto Whelan: Jesus , after your comment Coveney will come out of hiding..take it you were being sarcastic..if so we’ll appreciated.

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    Jan 30th 2022, 4:03 AM

    @d: I’m the guy who sees the truth and says it straight

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:38 PM

    Well done to the fishermen who are the real people who got this moved. But Coveney will take all the credit, just like he did with the U. N security Council a man that never served on a U. N. mission in his life. So again well done to the real hero’s of the hour, the fishermen

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Jan 31st 2022, 1:11 PM

    @John O Mahony: You Really believe that cop on

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:36 PM

    Quaking in their fur-lined boots at the prospect of massive retaliation from our navy and fishing fleet! Or is the West Cork fishing fleet now our Navy…

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    Mute Da Dell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:31 PM

    Oh what are the doom & gloom merchants going to complain about now ?. … suppose they will cling on to their ‘inevitable invasion’ type comments.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:21 PM

    @Eoin Roche: I don’t have one, so I won’t make any… unlike yourself.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:22 PM

    @Eoin Roche: Am surprised you haven’t called Coveney & The Irish Fishermen Putinbots.

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    Jan 30th 2022, 1:04 AM

    @Da Dell: It’s Joe Duffy worries me..he will not take this lightly…Suppose he can go back to funny Friday..about his level.

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    Mute Robert Bennett
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    Jan 30th 2022, 1:38 PM

    @Da Dell: The immaturity of representing the national interests of a country as a singular person reduces real human issues to almost cartoon immagery. Putin, Xi, Kim, etc. It facilitates propaganda.

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    Mute Fergus Quinlan
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:27 PM

    It would be great if Mr. Coveny would now request the same of the US military and its use of Shannon Airport. Also if Ireland could put its UN seat to good use and become an honest peace broker in Ukraine. We must remember that the Russians are terrified of invasions from the west they have had many, Sweden, Napoleon, about 10 countries in 1919. In the last invasion by Germany they lost 25,000,000 people and suffered catastrophic devastation. They do not want NATO missiles on their borders, as the US did not want missiles in Cuba.

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    Mute Ger Murray
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:34 PM

    A big Victory for Cork

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:40 PM

    We are a powerful little country really. With all the media talk about the military drills and protests and talks with fishermen and Simon coveney’s interference’s and the DOF the Russians agreed to move away. I wonder would they be so obliging if they planned drills in other countries waters and were asked to relocate. Eire abú

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    Mute Liam MacSuibhne
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:46 PM

    Go hiontach!!! Wonderful display of patient, soft power.

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    Mute Pádraigín O'Sirideáin
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:09 PM

    Well it wasnt you Simon Coveney who got rid of them… it was the fisherman ! Up the Rebel County

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Jan 31st 2022, 1:13 PM

    @Pádraigín O’Sirideáin: Are you having a laugh wow the Russians were quaking in. the boots

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    Mute Mary Nugent
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:50 PM

    Up the Cork the fishermen.

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    Mute Rebecca Owens
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:28 PM

    Good

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    Mute Kieran Henry
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:39 PM

    All together now “who do you think you are kidding Mr. Putin?”

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    Mute John O Mahony
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:43 PM

    Coveney can’t look after our own defence forces not to mind the Russian fleet.

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    Mute John O Mahony
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:57 PM

    Mr Coveney can’t get the Irish navy moving due to lack of man power, so don’t believe for one second he got the Russian navy to move.

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    Mute Martin O Connell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:29 PM

    The battle of “DunCork” will go down in history as the greatest of all navel victories.

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    Mute Sheila McNulty
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    Jan 31st 2022, 1:14 PM

    @Martin O Connell: For What Exactly

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    Mute RJ
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:27 PM

    Me areas

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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:38 PM

    It’s a win on both sides for diplomacy.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:40 PM

    Vladimir isn’t a Fisherman’s friend…. I’ll get me coat….

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    Mute Phil Keenan
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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:00 PM

    It was the fishermen that did this! Not the politicians! Fair play to them

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    Mute Da Dell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:58 PM

    Maybe a delegation of Irish Fishermen could help the Ukrainian/Russian talks ?

    Plus must give Coveney some credit here too.

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    Mute Nollaig Kelly
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:28 PM

    Go on outta that we don’t believe you

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    Mute Karel Pumpernikel
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:43 PM

    Just a few fishermen won’t change Russians thinking. No disrespect but it was meant to be fingers in to NATO backside rather atack to the Irish Fishery

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    Mute Kieran Woods
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    Jan 30th 2022, 4:07 PM

    @Karel Pumpernikel: I agree with the giving fingers to NATO as the reason. The fishermen however have said that their concerns were listened to carefully and respectfully by the ambassador who fully understood their worries. He assured them that he would take them to the highest level and return with a timely reply. A decision was made to accommodate them. I don’t think there was any other adjenda.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:35 PM

    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2022/0128/1276548-donegal-fisherman-shipping/
    Won’t be holding my breath waiting on similar diplomatic and media onslaught in regard to British/US manoeuvres of northwest coast.

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    Mute Da Dell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:52 PM

    @M Bowe: Nope… nor the various concerns of many commentators here…

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    Mute Tony Shaw
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:45 PM

    I’d say they got a fit of the willes when they heard the Cork & Kerry lads were heading out to meet them !‼️

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    Mute Jonathan O'Riordan
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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:03 PM

    @Tony Shaw: you mean the O’Donovan bros?

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    Mute Appaddy
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    Jan 29th 2022, 11:26 PM

    Is this not a classic. All the negatives about Ireland depending on Britian and Nato to make up for our lack of spend on defence. Yet see what a bit of common sense and discussion can do.

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    Mute Fachtna Roe
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    Jan 30th 2022, 12:25 AM

    @Appaddy: That’s a good summation of a very valid point.

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    Mute Mark Dawson
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    Jan 29th 2022, 8:37 PM

    Russia backs down amid Ireland thr eateing to deploy the most feared special forces unit in the world, The west Cork Fishermen, these highly secretive and highly trained men are often called in when the SAS or seals are unable to take on a complex mission and require the elite of the Special forces, the Dept of defence declined to confirm the details stating that for operational reasons we can not divulge information about the WCF but the people of Ireland can sleep knowing that we have an elite unit who will protect our country

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    Mute Seamus Begley
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:32 PM

    Simon Coveney what did you do to stop this madness only for the fishermen this criminal behaviour wud have gone ahead

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    Mute In the paper
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:34 PM

    Ah come on lads….Simple Simon says….

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    Mute Aoife Leighton
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:38 PM

    Boys, ye can drop the mackerel now, the threats worked! :)

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    Mute fuzzydunlop
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:29 PM

    Chickens

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:28 PM

    The Russians a great bunch of lads

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    Mute Declan Moran
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:29 PM

    Pull the other one :)

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    Mute alan scott
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:09 PM

    I’m very anti Russia, but saying that it was technically in International waters.

    It’s good that they agreed to test their toys somewhere else but saying that it was hardly belligerent behaviour.

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    Mute Zmeevo Libe
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:30 PM

    @alan scott: Just curious, why are you anti-Russia? I mean, not anti-Putin but anti-Russia? I find this attitude common here, and hard to explain. Would you say you are anti-English, at least that animosity would have some historical explanation?

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    Mute Da Dell
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:33 PM

    @alan scott: No s**t sherlock, your very anti a lot of things.

    Watch Oliver Stones documentary series ‘Untold History of the US’.

    Doubt you would, but another good one is ‘Soviet Storm WWII in the East’

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:42 PM

    @Zmeevo Libe: Excellent questions.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:44 PM

    @alan scott: I will give you credit though for coming out and stating clearly that you are anti-Russia. Its clear in your comments but fair play anyways.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:46 PM

    @Zmeevo Libe: sorry mate I should have made myself a bit more clear. Not actually against Russia as a country, as a people as a culture. Politically I am against their government with Putins authoritarian way of ruling.

    Sorry I did not specify that more clearly!

    No I’m pro British. but I have reason why I’m that way. Another article another comment.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:56 PM

    @alan scott: You should really look into the why & how Putin took power. The US reneging on promises made his predecessors and Russia look weak . And unfortunately for most of these leaders including US leaders appearing weak is a mortal wound that their opponents exploit.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 9:21 PM

    Ah yes. A politician will take the Glory?? Whats new.

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    Mute Brian Haines
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    Jan 29th 2022, 6:48 PM

    Russia now one move ahead in the chess game with NATO.

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    Mute Seamus Quaide
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:33 PM

    Coveney put the fear of God into them. Dats right !!

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    Mute Kieran Henry
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:42 PM

    COD ARMY

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    Mute Brian Hackett
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:40 PM

    Irish fishermen to Gaza… sort them out in no time !!!

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    Mute Football in the Groin
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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:45 PM

    They could see Coveney was angry…

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    Mute Michael Killian
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    Jan 29th 2022, 7:31 PM

    It’s a win for polite diplomacy. Good to see. I know it’s the weekend, but too many silly comments. Let’s all go back to The 42. Now that’s proper serious stuff.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:31 PM

    They were too scared

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:34 PM

    “Simon says” . . . “F+*k off”.

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:40 PM

    That showed em! COYBIG

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    Jan 29th 2022, 5:45 PM

    Nobody messes around with Coveney, he’d Eff them Russians up for sure lol

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    Jan 30th 2022, 11:12 AM

    @John Devine: As usual the politicians claim the credit and get their photos on the papers. YouTube tells a different story there the fishermen discuss it with the Russian ambassador with no sign of Coveney. The fishermen had been told that the government couldnt do anything. A compliant press is the enemy of truth

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    Jan 30th 2022, 6:40 PM

    @Bat Collins: I totally agree

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    Jan 30th 2022, 11:07 AM

    It was the fishermen who got the result. Thay had asked the politicians and were told there was nothing they could do. Of course when the fishermen got the result the politicians were all over the papers claiming the credit.

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    Mute Kieran Woods
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    Jan 30th 2022, 12:38 PM

    This shows up the Journal’s security ” Expert” Declan Power for the total amadan that he is. The previous article which was based on his ramblings was laughable.

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    Jan 30th 2022, 12:50 AM

    Ireland is now part of NATO!

    This was published on MSN, at least at the time I made this posting. Would you believe such a thing “Ireland a NATO member”? Just shows that some people/organisations are either uneducated (which it looks like), or don’t check their facts or are just stirring the preverbal s#it.

    Russia moves naval exercise that rattled NATO member Ireland (msn.com)

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-moves-naval-exercise-that-rattled-nato-member-ireland/ar-AAThs4K?ocid=msedgntp

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    Jan 30th 2022, 8:56 AM

    @Con Cussed: Good spot!

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    Mute Ciarán Byrne
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    Jan 30th 2022, 11:28 AM

    Eu to replace its negotiation team with West Cork Fishermen to sort out Brexit mess ..Dup & UK worried

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    Mute Ciarán Byrne
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    Jan 30th 2022, 10:59 PM

    Are future government the West Coast Fishermen the only bunch of people that played David and Goliath with Russian and won a battle that political Red tape couldn’t well done lads

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    Mute Regina Maclean
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    Jan 30th 2022, 10:25 AM

    They might move out of Irish waters , and that’s great, but the sea creatures do not know about borders and can still be hurt and killed. It would be better if Russia stayed out of the sea altogether .

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    Jan 30th 2022, 11:13 AM

    @Regina Maclean: Are the other navies of the world ok to carry on or is it just the Russians you want out?

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