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Five friends from Kildare at the Button Factory test event last week. Sam Boal/Rollingnews.ie

Nightclubs seeking guarantee they'll be at 100% capacity for the big reopening

The department says there are “positive” signs due to vaccination rates but a final decision still needs to be taken.

NIGHTCLUB PROMOTERS ARE calling for the government to confirm that the 22 October reopening is set to go ahead without capacity restrictions. 

The October bank holiday weekend is set to see nightclubs reopen for the first time in 19 months following almost 590 nights of closure due the Covid-19 pandemic. 

Last week, a pilot nightclub event supported by the Department of Tourism and Culture was held in the Button Factory in Dublin with a 60% capacity crowd. 

Antigen testing was also required of all those in attendance at the venue with the department stating that contact details of those in attendance was also taken. 

On 22 October all remaining Covid-19 restrictions are scheduled to be lifted, including requirements for social distancing, indoor mask-wearing and limits on numbers at events. It is also planned that entry requirements such as vaccination certs or testing will be removed.  

Just over two weeks out from that date, promoters are reporting a huge demand for the events they organise for nightclubs, with many events already sold out. 

Buzz O’Neill-Maxwell, who promotes four club nights across Dublin, says all his events for the bank holiday weekend are sold out but that there’s “huge panic” amongst promoters that there’ll be restricted numbers, with the government not yet confirming it will be full capacity. 

“While whatever guidance might be there from Fáilte Ireland for the venues, for actual promoters and the people that are organising the nights there’s nothing, it’s a joke at this stage,” he tells The Journal

What we want absolutely is a guarantee that on 22 October we’ll be opening with 100% capacity.

He adds that, if it were to be the case that capacity wasn’t full,  tickets to be refunded and resold based on smaller numbers. 

Previously, the National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) and government have either signed off on reopening plans or put the brakes on a week in advance of a planned date. 

In a statement to The Journal, the department said that the vaccination target set as a requirement for the final stage of reopening has been met but that a final decision must be taken under public health advice. 

“The plan states that, based on the criteria of at or close to 90% of people 16 and over being fully vaccinated and having regard to the incidence and behavior of the disease at that time, the government will remove further statutory restrictions in respect of events and activities from 22 October,” the department said.

The target vaccination rate has already been met which is positive in terms of lifting restrictions on schedule.  Government will meet in advance of 22 October and will consider the available public health advice as part of its decision-making process.

O’Neill-Maxwell says it is a case of the sooner-the-better for promoters and that a week’s notice would be “of absolutely no use” if there are to be limits on capacity. 

He added that any learnings from last week’s 60% capacity test event should be shared with the industry. 

The test event was hosted by promoters Hidden Agenda and District 8 in consultation with nightlife campaign group Give us the Night. 

“They put that pilot event in place four to six weeks ago. And to be honest they’ve been talking to those promoters that were running it for months,” O’Neill-Maxwell says.

The government couldn’t be seen to be running a test pilot event at full capacity, and I understand that, I get that. But what’s come out of that now? What’s the great finding and do they care to share that with us?
The department described last week’s pilot event as “an important step” but that it “must continue monitor the ongoing risk from Covid-19 and manage the risk both individually and collectively”.
It added: “The department will be working with the event management team and health and safety consultants from the night-club pilot in the coming days to review all aspects of the pilot to see what learnings can be taken from the event and shared with the sector.”
Publicans

For its part the Licensed Vintners Association (LVA), which represents publicans, says it expects all restrictions to be lifted on 22 October and that its members should operate on that basis. 

“They’re eager to go so I would expect that the vast majority will open on 22 October. We’re not looking for any guidelines, we’re not calling for them because we are hoping and expecting that it would be a full unrestricted opening. That it would be normal, pre-Covid late bar and nightclub trade,” LVA chief executive Donall O’Keeffe told The Journal

Overall, O’Keeffe says publicans are “very optimistic” about the reopening of the sector because they’ve seen the strong demand in places like London and Belfast when nightlife returned in those cities. 

Despite this, the LVA is seeking a six-month waiver on special exemption orders, which cost nightclubs €410 per night and permit the sale and consumption of alcohol beyond normal trading hours. 

O’Keeffe says the waiver would give nightclubs the “best chance of a successful reopening” as they are already struggling with the extended closure and issues with getting staff. 

“Outside of the financial impact of closure, the biggest issue now is getting enough decent skilled staff to reopen a business that’s been closed for so long. This is the entire hospitality sector, not just pubs, hotels and restaurants,” he says. 

The late bar and nightclub guys have the distinct disadvantage of being the last to open, so lots of their staff have migrated on and gone on to working for other elements of the industry.

“They have a little bit of notice, as in we’ve had this day 22 October for a long time, so hopefully they’re in the process of training teams now and getting ready, but staffing is the single biggest issue facing the industry.”

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    Mute Lad
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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:49 PM

    The foods bland and its expensive, not a winning formula.

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    Mute Norman Hunter
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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:50 PM

    It’s also incredibly unhealthy.

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:51 PM

    Not only that, it tastes delicious.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:51 PM

    If going down the fast food route then I’d definitely do one of those Italian choppers -Borza, Macaris etc. Failing that I’d have Burger King before McD’s!

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:55 PM

    People who like to go on and on about not owning a television also don’t go to these places.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 8:58 PM

    I stopping going to MacDonald’s several years ago even though I like their food. I just got tired of how they treat the communities they operate in, bullying their way through local planning laws, suing anyone who stands up to them, marketing directly to schools and kids sporting clubs.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:50 PM

    ‘modern, progressive burger company’

    Yep

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:51 PM

    I think all chain food is crap: McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Supermacs and Costa Coffee etc.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:58 PM

    Costa and Starbucks have the worst coffee. Complete muck.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:04 PM

    Uh huh. Costa coffee is bitter shite. Starbucks a grade or two better.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:16 PM

    Hold on, you’re telling me that Starbucks sell coffee now?

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    Mar 9th 2015, 6:47 PM

    Insomnia is decent though…

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    Mar 9th 2015, 7:16 PM

    How can anyone even taste coffee with the amount of sugar, milk and general muck added to it?

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    Mar 9th 2015, 7:24 PM

    McDonalds do great coffe

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    Mute Mary Kavanagh
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    Mar 9th 2015, 9:50 PM

    Now, I think it’s the other way round! Costa at least have nice cups and good cakes. Chacun à son goût!

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    Mar 9th 2015, 9:51 PM

    They do, Thomas and it’s cheap as chips!

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    Mar 10th 2015, 1:34 AM

    Mac Cac. Chomh blasta le himeall mo thóna!

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:10 PM

    I honestly don’t get why people eat in McDonalds! The food doesn’t fill you. You’d nearly need to eat the entire menu to feel full after it. Everything on the menu tastes like syrup dipped in vinegar (except the drinks which just taste like syrup). And it has no nutritional value. I get that people like to get the odd bit of fast food (and I do like a good Italian chipper), but why go for something that tastes disgusting, offers no nutritional value and leaves you starving 15 minutes later?

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:17 PM

    They give you a toy with the Happy Meal :)

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:20 PM

    It’s that long since I ate in a McDonalds that I had entirely forgotten about Happy Meals. Still, that’s hardly an incentive for me! Oh this talk of food is making me hungry! I think I’ll have a nice half-pounder with cheese, chips, onion rings and a battered sausage tonight! :)

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:53 PM

    Ronald will qualify for job seekers allowance so no sweat

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:50 PM

    You put one scabby gherkin in your budgets, what do you expect? Never mind the chips that never go off and the nuggets made of slime and ammonia. And what happened to the turd burglar? Did he die? Oh wait, that was burger king.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 6:32 PM

    ‘Our’ Supermacs are mad expensive and portuons are scabby aswell. My local chipper does a fresh fillet chicken burger, with all the dressing, large chips (that would feed two people) and two cans of coke etc for 7.20 euro.

    Supermacs the other night My order was one Chicken Breast Sandwich Meal and one small chips (both portions were tiny) and it came to 10 euro 40 cent!!!

    Im not a big fast food eater but appreciate the price difference.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:14 PM

    Not sure how it is in Ireland now but in Germany at least Burger King here has veggie options and other alternatives to the traditional “burger and fries” fast food menu. I had McDonalds a few weeks ago for the first time in years and it was so bland. I’d much rather spend another euro or two and get a healthy, filling meal somewhere else.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 6:13 PM

    As a kid Coming from the country always Thoght it was suppose like a magical place. first time i went was in.Dublin when i was 16. Your local chipper is much more fulfilling

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:03 PM

    A prerequisite for any restaurant should be that they serve food. McDonalds doesn’t qualify. I’d take my chances with a 20 a day habit sooner.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:51 PM

    Janey Mac that’s bad.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:38 PM

    It’s muck and it treats its staff the same way so good luck to it.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 7:15 PM

    I’d rather eat the packaging the food comes in

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    Mar 9th 2015, 4:56 PM

    MacDonalds can be a handy quick bite to eat. The thing that gets me with them the last 10 yrs or so is that when you place your order they wait for the money rather than go get it while you sort it. This leads to longer cue’s .

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:05 PM

    If you’re going to eat that crap, here’s a suggestion have the right amount in your hand.
    I hear they put the prices on their menu display ‘ s.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 6:59 PM

    Give me super macs any day

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    Mar 9th 2015, 10:02 PM

    Lose the clown,. He sure is scary, more suited to a Stephen King novel.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 9:48 PM

    I love the irony in their sponsorship of the Olympics.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 10:36 PM

    I eat it every now & then as a teenager, if I was out shopping with friends stopped when I Sussed mcds= headache. Total muck.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:08 PM

    Cannot understand how i get thumbs down while something as ridiculous as a hambuglar gets a thumbs up…..

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    Mar 10th 2015, 11:56 AM

    Shanghai Husi are OSI, an American company who supply McDonalds worldwide. They are one of many Western companies who think they can act like complete cowboys in Asia to cut corners and maximize profit.

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    Mar 9th 2015, 11:25 PM

    Well they would definitely have more of my business if the Big Tasty was always on the menu. Mmmmm :)

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    Mar 18th 2015, 12:14 AM

    There are absolutely no stereotypical Irish comments at all here.
    Not one person is begrudging the success of anyone else.

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    Mute Philip Murphy
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    Mar 9th 2015, 5:00 PM

    This is a good news story, even for a fast food joint the whole place mings something awful

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