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Sasko Lazarov

Late-night Luas service ruled out, as hours needed for maintenance

The Luas will not operate a 24-hour service as the NTA says it carries out maintenance when the trams are out of service.

LATE-NIGHT LUAS services past 1am has been ruled out for now by the National Transport Authority (NTA).

Transport Minister Eamon Ryan asked the authority in June to examine the prospect of running late-night Luas services.

Currently the Luas does not operate between 1am and 5am.

The minister indicated that having additional public transport capacity past midnight would have an impact on the taxi driver shortage in the capital. 

However, an NTA spokesperson has told The Journal that the NTA and Transport Infrastructure Ireland (TII) recently examined the prospect of the Luas operating past 1am but have concluded that extending services significantly “is not something that should be progressed at this point”. 

The reason cited by the NTA for not rolling out late night services is that essential maintenance on the likes of overhead cable systems, rail works and cleaning “can only be carried out when all trams are out of service”. 

“Even with the current schedule in place, the nightly window for that preventative maintenance work to take place is only is only somewhere between two and three hours.

“Further extending hours of service would by definition, reduce the amount of time available for maintenance work, which could result in a diminution of services at other times of the week,” said the spokesperson. 

The spokesperson said that Friday-Saturday and Saturday-Sunday sets of engineering hours “are particularly valuable on Luas, as the longer window due to the later start on Saturday and Sunday gives extra time for longer tasks, which again are required regularly”. 

“Were we to regularly run later services on Luas at say weekends, an alternative time would be required to complete these activities, and it is difficult to see where this could be facilitated without substantially disrupting busy mid-week mornings,” said the NTA spokesperson. 

Taxi shortage in Dublin

Concerns have been raised about Dublin’s taxi shortage, with latest figures from the NTA showing that only 29% of drivers are working during the busy periods of Friday and Saturday nights.

Readers told The Journal of their experiences trying to get home after socialising in the city centre, with some saying that they were forced to wait hours for a taxi, while others opted to walk home.

Alongside the taxi shortage, taxi fares are set to increase by 12% on average from 1 September as part of measures to reflect the increasing operating costs for drivers.

David McGuinness, chairperson of the taxi driver representative organisation Tiomanaí Tacsaí Na hEireann (TTnH) recently told this website that taxi fares weighted in favour of those working ‘unsocial hours’ is expected to entice drivers back into city centres during busy weekend evenings.

The new fare structure will see the standard initial charge increase from €3.80 to €4.20.

The initial charge during premium periods covering 8pm-8am and Sundays and public holidays will go from €4.20 to €4.80.

McGuinness said that he expects that the taxi situation in Dublin in particular to  improve over the rest of summer as there are fewer events planned in the city centre. 

Late-night public transport needed, not just taxis

However, he said there is a need for additional late night public transport options, other than taxis: 

“Five years ago if you had a big event on you would have had a lot of additional buses put on to cater for them, but that’s not happening anymore and that means there’s a huge demand when they’re on.

“Maybe the licensing of these events should be looked at more seriously to include how customers at concerts or events can actually get back from these places. It can’t just fall on the taxi industry, we need a proper late night bus service and the Luas and Dart should be running later.”

While the NTA has ruled out such a late night Luas service, in a recent reply to a parliamentary question by Fine Gael TD Neale Richmond, the authority said that overnight bus services are being prioritised.

It said late night bus services have been introduced on a number of routes such as the 15, 39a and 41 in recent years.

A new 24-hour operation is in place between Sandymount and Adamstown via the city centre and South Lucan, and also between Ringsend depot and Maynooth/Celbridge via the city centre and Lucan Village. An orbital route along the N4 between Blanchardstown and the Point Village via DCU and Collins Avenue has also been rolled out.

The NTA said further 24-hour services are expected to commence in late summer on routes G1/G2 to Liffey Valley/Red Cow via Ballyfermot, adding that future phases will include more expansion of overnight services.

Focus on expanding 24-hour bus services

The authority is understood to be examining what other options are available within the funding and the operator driver resources to extend services later in the evening to support the recovery in the night-time economy.

Rather than rolling out the Luas on a 24-hour basis, the NTA said the delivery of 24-hour bus services on a regular schedule across the network “is more feasible and the NTA is committed to delivering more of these services as the BusConnects Dublin network is rolled out”.

However, Richmond told The Journal that late-night Luas services are “badly needed” as are more 24-hour Dublin Bus services, more Nitelink routes “given the persisting issues with access to taxis in Dublin city centre”.

“This is becoming a public safety issue with many people being forced to walk home, often alone, late at night as public transport is not operating and taxis are hard to come by.

“Currently, the Luas runs until only 12.30am mid-week and weekends and 11pm on Sundays. Getting the Luas home is simply not an option for many people availing of the night-life in Dublin city centre,” said Richmond. 

“I have previously asked the NTA to look into expanding the operating hours of the Luas to ensure more people can get home safely after a night out. Excuses such as the need for maintenance work is hard to accept when we often see service disruptions during operating hours with stops closed.

“The need for occasional maintenance should not be a barrier to increased operating hours. Other European cities have managed this, Berlin even has 24 hour services on the weekends and so we must look to them as an example,” he said. 

“It is simply not sustainable for Dublin to have such restricted public transport operating hours and this must be addressed to ensure the safety and well-being of all those who live in and around the city,” he said. 

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    Mute Sean
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    Aug 4th 2022, 7:55 AM

    I am just back from Helsinki and funny how they can manage to have trams run 24/7.

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    Aug 4th 2022, 9:19 AM

    @Sean: berlin too
    the mind boggles

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    Aug 4th 2022, 9:48 AM

    @Sean: They have more trams maybe?

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    Mute Darragh O'Connell
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    Aug 4th 2022, 10:39 AM

    @Sean: that’s a lie. They run just after midnight leaving time for essential maintence. Why would you like that?

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    Mute Tony Stanley-Jaggard
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    Aug 4th 2022, 1:55 PM

    @Sean: You’re wrong you know.

    In Helsinki they operate between 05:30 to 23:30 on weekdays and 07:00 to 23:30 at weekends so actually less hours than Luas.

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    Mute Inno Items
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    Aug 4th 2022, 6:14 PM

    @Brianto: And not just recently. They have operated 24 / 7 since ever.

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    Mute Longlin
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    Aug 4th 2022, 7:54 AM

    I can only dream then of taking my life in my hands by getting a red line Luas at 3am. It’s hairy enough already at 3pm in the day with its current lack of adequate policing.

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    Mute Sean
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    Aug 4th 2022, 7:58 AM

    @Longlin: on the Green line we don’t have that issue, so i suggest 24/7 on Green Line only.

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    Mute Heather Knowles
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    Aug 4th 2022, 8:35 AM

    Strange how other cities manage to operate a 24 service, p New York, Chicago, Copenhagen, Melbourne and Tokyo all provide 24 hour transport services to a much wider metropolitan area then Dublin. We really can’t do anything right here. At the very least a late night if not 24 hour service with additional frequency and extended weekend hours should be available on all forms of transport. How on earth is maintenance required every night?

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    Mute Thomas O' Donnell
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    Aug 4th 2022, 10:44 AM

    @Heather Knowles: I assume it’s because those cities have more alternative lines during maintenance

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    Mute Sean
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    Aug 4th 2022, 6:40 PM

    @Heather Knowles: because those countries don’t find a problem for every solution, here unfortunately some people have a problem for every solution

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    Mute Robert Mc Manus
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    Aug 5th 2022, 11:30 AM

    @Thomas O’ Donnell: Normally a bus service will replace the tram/train service whilst maintenance is been carried out here in Melbourne

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    Mute Johnny Kelly
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    Aug 4th 2022, 6:06 AM

    More trains then

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    Mute Ryan O'Rourke
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    Aug 4th 2022, 8:21 AM

    Is maintenance carried out every single night? The nights they have to do maintenance they can have a bus service follow the route like the trains do when they’re getting repaired ?

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    Aug 4th 2022, 8:30 AM

    @Ryan O’Rourke: If only they had implemented a priority bus corridor instead. Then we wouldn’t have these issues and multiple bus routes could be implemented using it

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    Mute Chris Curran
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    Aug 4th 2022, 9:32 AM

    I wanna cry. The hopeless of our country. A real no can do attitude.

    We get presented with problems – never solutions.

    Been all over Europe. Out public transport is the shame of Europe.

    I beg the politicians and the unions, that for once, please just once actually deliver us, the people, a public transport that we can be proud of.

    You make us ashamed to he Irish.

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    Mute sean o'dhubhghaill
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    Aug 4th 2022, 10:01 AM

    @Chris Curran: “We get presented with problems, never solutions”. Just like The Journal comments section then.

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    Mute Chris Curran
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    Aug 4th 2022, 10:16 AM

    @sean o’dhubhghaill: Don’t agree.

    Our politicians are truly hopeless. No innovation. No leadership. No vision for what the country could be. It’s all about keeping their seats and towing the party party line.

    Our planners are conservative, with many passed their sell by dates. In Dublin, four local authorities agree and implement four different county development plans led by planners.

    I’m not just describing the problem, I’ve been there, done that and walked away because of party handcuffs.

    Dublin needs an exectutive mayor free of party handcuffs to enable a vision to come forward.

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    Mute Sean Ryan
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    Aug 4th 2022, 9:35 AM

    Is there only 1 tram? Surely some sort of maintenance rota could be devised combined with somewhat reduced services during the overnight hours.

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    Mute chiqey
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    Aug 4th 2022, 9:56 AM

    Is there anything we can do in this country?? How do other countries manage? It’s just a disgrace our lack of decent public transport

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    Mute Kevin Rochez
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    Aug 4th 2022, 10:44 AM

    With the amount of Taxes that we are paying, it should be a right to get better transport for all Citizens.

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    Mute François Pignon
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    Aug 4th 2022, 8:38 AM

    Could they please put the Luas underground? Reclaim the streets!

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    Aug 4th 2022, 9:13 AM

    @François Pignon: “Síos” maybe?!

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    Aug 4th 2022, 1:02 PM

    In fairness could you imagine the madness of the Red Line at 2AM in the morning?

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    Mute Lydia McLoughlin
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    Aug 4th 2022, 5:15 PM

    Past 1am?? Was trying to get out of town on a Saturday night few wks ago last tram through town passed at 11.15pm??

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    Mute Mark Dawson
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    Aug 4th 2022, 10:20 PM

    Surely there be less trams on through the night less than half I imagine so can rotate them easily each night Surely they don’t need maintenance after each day if they do something is wrong

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