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Council of the European Union

Michael Noonan on the Anglo Tapes: 'We could have done without them'

The finance minister says reporting on the tapes will influence public opinion in the states funding Ireland’s EU bailout.

THE FINANCE MINISTER has said the coverage of the taped conversations involving senior figures at Anglo Irish Bank is something Ireland “could have done without”.

Michael Noonan said the international coverage of the recordings, which are being published by the Irish Independent this week, could damage Ireland’s standing in the opinion of the countries which are funding Ireland’s bailout.

“I’ve no doubt at all it would influence public opinion in the countries that provide us with the funds that are needed for our bailout programme,” Noonan told reporters outside a meeting of EU finance ministers in Brussels.

“We have put a lot of energy into restoring Ireland’s reputation – I hope it’s a passing phase and it doesn’t do permanent damage,” he said.

“But we could have done without it.”

The minister said he would be speaking with the German finance minister Wolfgang Schauble over the course of this evening’s summit – which aims to wrap up a common set of rules on who foots the bill for saving a struggling bank – but did not say if he would broach the topic of the tapes.

Noonan also explained the delay in bringing criminal charges against some figures in Anglo because of the sheer size of the case against them:

There are tea chests – hundreds of tea chests – full of documents, and then there are tapes as well.

So it’s very difficult to put the book of evidence together.

Noonan also explained that the tapes would have originated from the mandatory recording of conversations involving treasuries in banks, which he said was understandable.

John Bowe, the sole figure who has appeared in all of the recordings made available to date, was the director of treasury at Anglo.

Read: Where are the tapes from the other bailed-out banks? Kenny: ‘I dunno’

More: The Anglo Tapes scandal has made the front page of this German tabloid

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    Mute MintCrisp2
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    Jun 11th 2016, 10:19 PM

    Interesting article, sad case.

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    Mute I Pee Freely
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    Jun 11th 2016, 10:29 PM

    How times change. Nowadays he would told the tough upbringing story and been out in six or seven years. Said he was drunk and he could of been out even sooner.

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    Mute Diarmuid Lenihan
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    Jun 11th 2016, 10:24 PM

    We should execute more and lock up more for longer.

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    Mute Kerry Blake
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    Jun 11th 2016, 10:32 PM

    Lock up yes execute no.

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    Mute Arnie
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    Jun 12th 2016, 5:30 AM

    Execution is barbaric and until recently most people were executed for petty crimes.

    And what would have happened to the Birmingham Six if execution was legal. Too many miscarriages of justice still happen.

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    Mute Malvolio32
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    Jun 12th 2016, 11:57 AM

    But they only had their whole lives upended, brutalised by the system and lost 20 years of their lives. So that’s alright then.

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    Mute Paddy Ryan
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    Jun 11th 2016, 11:11 PM

    An 84 year old living alone in 1927…. Wow… that’s got to be like a 110 years adjusted for changes in healthcare etc.It’s always a tragedy when someone is killed but there seems to be an extra poignancy when they’re very young or very old.

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    Mute Eamon Mac Gowan
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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:33 AM

    @Paddy Ryan,
    80 and 90 year old’s were quite common in those times. It’s infant mortality that brings down the average life expectancy, if you made out of childhood you had a reasonable chance of growing to old age.

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    Mute Fintin Stack
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    Jun 12th 2016, 1:29 AM

    @Eamon, It wasnt just about infant mortality. People did on the whole die a lot younger for various reasons. There would be a lot more people living to old age in this day and age..

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    Jun 12th 2016, 5:28 AM

    Eamon is correct – lots of people lived into their 80s or 90s. Infant mortality does bring the average down. Even as far back as medieval times lots of people lived into old age, it’s just that lots more people died in childhood back then.

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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:17 PM

    @arnie. And on the battlefield.

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    Mute prouesse f
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    Jun 11th 2016, 11:10 PM

    ““hanging is entirely too mild for such a savage” sounds pretty much like many many comments found on the Journal. You can’t stop progress…

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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:52 AM

    It’s great that we have mindful moralist like yourself to remind us all of our place

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    Mute prouesse f
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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:15 PM

    “Moralists” usually have no issues with hanging another human being in the name of their morality…

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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:29 PM

    Moralists infer that the masses are lacking their virtue.

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    Mute prouesse f
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    Jun 12th 2016, 4:09 PM

    Therefore, they think they have the right to hang the masses that are lacking their virtue. You get it?

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    Mute nf
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    Jun 11th 2016, 11:03 PM

    It may be from times past but it still happens in rural Ireland. There’s a case to be had for capital punishment

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:37 AM

    No there isn’t. It’s barbaric and doesn’t work as a deterrent. Killing people is wrong. End of.

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    Mute Fiona Fitzgerald
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    Jun 12th 2016, 5:30 PM

    I wonder whether it would have deterred that woman’s murderer if he had been able to read about other hangings for the crime of murder?

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    Jun 12th 2016, 2:45 AM

    Human beings have Human rights in this day and age.

    Any country that executes stoops to the level of the killers themselves.

    Belarus is the only country in all of Europe, including Russia, that still actively has the death penalty written into its’ laws.

    Are people seriously suggesting we apply a similar level of morals here because murders and brutal murders occur?

    People might feel like such people deserve to die and brutally, but it’s not the job of the State to be cruel and vicious. The potential for miscarriage of justice is also huge. The Irish Free State did execute at least 2 innocent men afaik.

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    Jun 12th 2016, 5:15 AM

    What about child rapes and murders? Or conspiracy to blow up an airplane. Certain things for fit rights

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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:44 AM

    Emily – the crimes are disgusting, but killing people is wrong. Someone has to hold the higher moral ground, the state must protect its citizens not seek vengeance, no matter how much we might want it.

    Look at Saudi, Egypt, Iran etc. Look at the USA. Is that a crime free country because they lock people up for decades and have the death penalty?

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    Mute The Hype
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    Jun 12th 2016, 8:31 AM

    If you are putting a picture of a building in your article then you should also name the building.

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    Mute Brian Carter
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:45 AM

    Which building are you wanting to know

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    Jun 12th 2016, 11:26 AM

    The picture of the courthouse

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    Jun 12th 2016, 11:33 AM

    Yeah, the Journal are pretty bad for this. If you follow the link to the NLI that they have, you’ll see that it’s that old building on Green Street, near Capel Street.

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    Jun 12th 2016, 11:37 AM
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    Jun 12th 2016, 11:41 AM

    Green street courthouse

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    Jun 12th 2016, 11:47 AM

    Thanks lads

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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:00 PM

    Also left wondering where execution was carried out, Mountjoy presumably.

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    Mute Brian Carter
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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:12 PM

    Yea there 29 unmarked graves in mount joy he buried there. One of the 29 have been provin innocent late last year. Look up a book called hanged for murder the 29 cases are in it

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    Jun 11th 2016, 11:29 PM

    Sure can we not blame the British

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    Mute Dec O'Farrell
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    Jun 12th 2016, 4:08 PM

    As is more usually the case, David.

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    Mute Kevin Kennedy
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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:31 AM

    ‘Had went to a wake’????

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:39 AM

    Be thankful it wasn’t ‘of went’

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    Jun 11th 2016, 10:11 PM

    $cum executed this man

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    Mute emily davison
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    Jun 11th 2016, 10:18 PM

    He’d probably get 4 years today

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:36 AM

    Hmm – not sure it’s that simple – although there doesn’t seem to have been a lot of evidence. I’m glad we live in a time where we are more humane.

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    Mute John Considine
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    Jun 12th 2016, 12:53 PM

    Well, if the marauding gangs who travel rural Ireland with seeming impunity terrorising old people and carrying out aggravated burglaries, in many cases causing death directly or indirectly, were to face ‘Old Sparky’, I would be in favour of it. Conventional policing isn’t working for us.

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    Mute Michael McLoughlin
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    Jun 12th 2016, 9:39 AM

    What’s the fine looking building in the second photo? A mill? A convent? Interested to know

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    Mute Brian Carter
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:51 AM

    An English army barracks

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    Mute Ian Begley
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:50 AM

    He got what he deserved

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    Mute Brian Carter
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:51 AM

    Really ?

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    Mute Rosa Parks
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    Jun 12th 2016, 5:01 AM

    He probably did do it.

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    Mute Brian Carter
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    Jun 12th 2016, 10:51 AM

    What makes you think that

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    Jun 12th 2016, 8:23 AM

    So no allowances made for mental health issues there !!Wouldn’t like seeing the death penalty being brought back ,as it dehumanised everyone ,and says it’s OK for the state to kill.So how can it be OK for one group to take lives and not another ?

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