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The gas receiving station of the Nord Stream 1 Baltic Sea pipeline and the transfer station of the OPAL long-distance gas pipeline in the industrial area of Lubmin, Germany. DPA/PA Images

Russian Nord Stream gas pipeline restarted after maintenance, operator says

The German government had feared the pipeline would not be reopened by Moscow after the scheduled work.

THE NORD STREAM gas pipeline linking Russia to Germany restarted today after 10 days of maintenance work, its operator has said. 

“It’s working,” a Nord Stream spokesman said, without specifying the amount of gas being delivered.

The German government had feared the pipeline would not be reopened by Moscow after the scheduled work.

According to data given by Russia’s state-owned energy giant Gazprom to Gascade, the German operator of the line, 530 GWh would be delivered during the day.

This was only 30% of its capacity, Klaus Mueller, president of Germany’s energy regulator, the Federal Network Agency, said on Twitter.

Gazprom has cut flows to Germany via the vital Nord Stream 1 pipeline by some 60% in recent weeks, blaming the absence of a Siemens gas turbine that was undergoing repairs in Canada.

The German government has rejected Gazprom’s turbine explanation and believes Russia is squeezing supplies in retaliation for Western sanctions on Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.

The Nord Stream 1 pipeline under the Baltic Sea has been shut down since July 11 to undergo annual maintenance.

The European Commission yesterday urged EU countries to reduce demand for natural gas by 15% over the coming months to secure winter stocks and defeat Russian “blackmail”. 

Announcing an emergency plan, EU commissioners also asked member states to give Brussels special powers to impose compulsory energy rationing if Russia cuts off Europe’s gas lifeline.

The Taoiseach Micheál Martin yesterday said that Ireland was not reliant on Russian gas but that there was a need to stockpile to prevent a price hike.  

The EU has been finding alternative fossil fuel sources for energy and putting plans in place to ramp up renewables since Russia attacked Ukraine earlier this year. 

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    Mute Willy Malone
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    Jul 19th 2018, 6:56 PM

    Course not.. Pushing an agenda more important.. Fix the leaks..

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    Mute Conor Paddington
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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:06 PM

    @Willy Malone: I can’t wait until they fix all of the leaks. Out water network is outrageous. But if they started fixing all of them tomorrow, it would cost billions, literally all of the roads would be shut down for months, and all of the pipes would be shut down for months. Fixing all of the leaks is necessary, but it’s not a solution for the problem this week or next.

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    Mute Jimmy Coltrane
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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:11 PM

    ‘“We’re monitoring the situation on a day-to-day basis,” the spokeswoman said”
    subtext:
    ‘Hey Eoghan, I think the public need more convincing – What dya think?’

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    Mute Stephen Boland
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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:25 PM

    @Jimmy Coltrane: they ARE fixing the leaks! They’ve only been in a wet day (I beg of you to excuse the pun)… but they don’t have a magic wand!

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    Mute Jimmy Coltrane
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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:28 PM

    @Stephen Boland:
    Perhaps they need a few more highly paid consultants to look into the hole.

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    Mute Willy Malone
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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:40 PM

    @Conor Paddington: The Billions on meters woulda went some way eh?

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    Mute Toon Army
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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:03 PM

    @Stephen Boland: You’re buying the spin. Households are fixing more leaks than Irish Water and the situation is worse since they’ve come in: https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/mains-supply-awash-with-leaks-behind-dublin-water-shortage-1.3561620?mode=amp#.W0dAKi9wNWF.facebook

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    Mute Conor Paddington
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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:03 PM

    @Willy Malone: yeah, fine. Probably. I think it was in the range of 200 million, but still, that’s a lot. BUT, is dwelling on that going to cure the current drought?

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:16 PM

    @Stephen Boland: did you guys fit meters at connection points to help fix the leaks? That would be a start. Btw: is this nationwide, because I’m pretty sure the reservoirs in Donegal are overflowing! It’s almost like you don’t measure the water going in, or the leaks going out (even after presumably “metering” the network with useless meters.

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    Mute Will J. Browne
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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:22 PM

    @Willy Malone: They are fixing them, your ignorance not withstanding.

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    Mute Stephen Boland
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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:43 PM

    @Gulliver Foyle: you guys?

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    Mute Andrew Dillon
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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:37 PM

    @Willy Malone: who is going to pay to fix the leaks… you and Paul Murphy??

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    Mute The Risen
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    Jul 20th 2018, 12:03 AM

    Dear oh dear.

    2014: “FIX THE BLOODY LEAKS”, response “that will cost BILLIONS”

    2018 and billions spent later on meters, consultants, Audis, golden handshakes etc…. “FIX THE BLOODY LEAKS”, response “that will cost BILLIONS”

    I think it’s willful ignorance at this stage…..

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    Mute victor feldman
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    Jul 20th 2018, 12:16 AM

    @Willy Malone: in occonnor st..i saw two council workers useing high powered hoses..that were nearly flooding the street..way beyond just cleaning it….when i mentioned it to the water board they just fobbed me off..said that was commercial usage…and we supposedly are meant to be near a drought….whoes running the show here!…and whats the point then of ordinary every day folk saving water so that we all dont die of thirst..!

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    Mute Nucky
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    Jul 20th 2018, 12:23 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Conor they’ve had 5 years to at least tackle some of the the problem and have failed miserably. The reason we have a drought now is not because of the lack of rain but because of IW

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    Mute Tim Pot
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    Jul 20th 2018, 3:49 AM

    @The Risen:

    ,,,but they have been fixing leaks, since 2014, 115 million litres of water per day has been saved.

    477m on meters (which are used to find the leaks)
    80m on consultants.
    … not billions as you like to claim

    I think it is you who are wilfully ignorant of the facts…

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    Jul 20th 2018, 3:52 AM

    @Willy Malone:

    477m on meters, not billions.

    meters are used to source leaks. the alternative method of sourcing leaks is about 9x more expensive.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 3:59 AM

    @Toon Army:

    and how were those leaks found out about?

    …I think you will find it was the water meters. Those leaks were inside the houses, IW are not your household plumber.

    IW did however fix 26000 leaks between the meter and the house. Also found with the meters.

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Jul 20th 2018, 6:52 AM

    @Conor Paddington: Since 1997 29 Billion Euro was collected for water. What has been done with this money?

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    Mute Conor Paddington
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    Jul 20th 2018, 6:59 AM

    @Nucky: correct. Failing to fix the leaks is the cause of this problem. However, fixing them won’t be a solution to the problem this summer.

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    Mute James Mc Loughlin
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    Jul 20th 2018, 9:34 AM

    @Conor Paddington: If the lay new pipes alonside existing pipes and transfer the water to them when each section is finished

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    Mute Mark Boyle
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    Jul 20th 2018, 9:51 AM

    @victor feldman: DCC use water from the canals to clean the streets, not drinking water.

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    Mute Frank Cauldhame
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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:59 PM

    @Conor Paddington: Its great having yourself and Tim Pot on here spreading false propaganda regarding the water quango, you two are doing a great job re-affirming people’s valid doubts on this entire fiasco. Keep up the good work boys ;-)

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    Mute Nuala Mc Namara
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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:03 PM

    @Tim Pot: Actually of the 28,000 of leaks,21,000 situated in houses,7000 in gardens.Householders therefore fixed vast majority of leaks!

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    Mute P Quinn
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    Jul 19th 2018, 6:57 PM

    No, but fixing the leaks will

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    Mute Thomas O' Donnell
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:15 PM

    @P Quinn: they are

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:58 PM

    @Thomas O’ Donnell: “they” are doing nothing

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    Mute Ronan Sexton
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:58 PM

    @Thomas O’ Donnell: They obviously aren’t. What makes you think that a fake billing company will ever physically fix anything?

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    Mute Will J. Browne
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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:36 PM

    @P Quinn: Are you offering to pay?

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    Mute Will J. Browne
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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:18 PM

    @Ronan Sexton: If an ignorant water protester doesn’t know something is happening, that doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:18 PM

    @Will J. Browne: funny guy. If only we were as stupid as you thought. Your B.S won’t work

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    Mute Tim Pot
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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:04 AM

    @P Quinn:

    Great News!

    They are fixing leaks, here is a handy maps to show you where.
    https://www.water.ie/projects-plans/our-projects/

    IW are fixing/replacing/laying 261km of pipe in 2018 alone

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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:31 PM

    @Tim Pot: The Local Authorities have also fixed leaks before IW set up…eg “How is leakage managed/Dublin City Council http://www.dublincity.ie shows that “Dublin Region has been very proactive in managing water leakage since the mid 1990′s through the :Active Leakage Programme and the Watermains Rehabilitation Programme …..leakage levels reduced from 43% to 29% from 1997-2009!!!!!!

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    Mute Tim Pot
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    Jul 21st 2018, 5:18 AM

    @Nuala Mc Namara:

    Yes, just over 1% leakage reduction per year, which is the same level IW are targeting nationally.

    As you will know it is not just fix and forget, leakage reduction is an ongoing challenge, some of the pipes are over 60 years old.

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    Mute Stephen Grehan
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:24 PM

    Why is a private billing company informing us of the drought situation. Oh now i remember the information comes from the county councils who do all the water work anyway.

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    Mute Stephen Grehan
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:29 PM

    @Stephen Grehan: Next thing you know they will be calling us customers LOL.

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:19 PM

    @Stephen Grehan: they do call the clouds “externally contacted 3PPs” on internal documents, to be fair. Mad as a brush, those “semi state” civil servants

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    Mute Andrew Dillon
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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:45 PM

    @Stephen Grehan: who do you think should fund the water system… the paye worker (who has been left funding it since FF abolished rates)?.? Should the paye worker also pay for his/her neighbours electricity and gas also? Already paying for waste.

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    Mute Tim Pot
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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:09 AM

    @Stephen Grehan: Lots of IW staff were former council staff, with more due to be transferred in the coming years. It is not true to say that only the councils do the work as they previoulsy contracted out a lot of the work themselves.

    They might be the same staff but IW are saving the taxpayer ~100m/yr compared to when it was 34 councils managing the water in their own different ways.

    As an example, cork city and county had completely separate water supplies, now they do not and it is saving you (the taxpayer) money.

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    Mute Dave Doyle
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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:19 AM

    @Tim Pot: The former council staff, the managers and other council officials got their reward for allowing the collapse of the water infrastructure by taking early retirement, with golden handshake, plus pension and walked into IW where they can expect another pension and golden handshake when they retire.
    The wages of corruption.

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    Mute Trevor Hayden
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:13 PM

    Again with this fictional company, journal?
    Local authorities say weekend rain will not end drought conditions.
    Call a spade a spade.

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    Mute Tim Pot
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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:25 AM

    @Trevor Hayden:

    Fictional is your comment, factual is that IW are managing the water network. The remainder of council staff will be transferred to IW in the coming years.

    (and saving ~100m/yr compared to when the 34 LA’s managed it in separate ways.)

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    Mute DMur
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:18 PM

    Surely there takin the piss now. First 4/5 weeks of consistent sunshine/ dry weather in decades, and we have hose pipe bans and conservation orders put in place. Shur they have to pump double the amount of water into the system because of the leaks. If I didn’t believe these honourable and well intentioned people, I would think that they were trying to push some sort of an agenda at this stage.

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    Mute Tim Pot
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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:28 AM

    @DMur:

    No they have not decided to take your piss to fill the reservoirs… that is fake news!

    They are fixing leaks, here is a handy maps to show you where.
    https://www.water.ie/projects-plans/our-projects/

    IW are fixing/replacing/laying 261km of pipe in 2018 alone

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    Mute Tony Murphy
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    Jul 20th 2018, 10:34 AM

    @DMur: Facebook is full of pictures and video of full reservoirs. How come not one media agency has sent a photographer to these places to give us an accurate water level. At least then we’d know who’s information is bull

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    Mute Tadhg O Connor
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:06 PM

    I don’t believe a word of it!

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    Mute Anti Toxic Quango
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:56 PM

    We are paying €1.2 billion a year since 1997 specifically for the upkeep and maintenance of our water infrastructure, I would like to know what the cartel of FF Labour FG have done with our money…?

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    Mute Stephen Boland
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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:46 PM

    @Anti Toxic Quango: could you reference your sources on that please? Rather than just throwing the same tired numbers around?

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    Mute Tim Pot
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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:42 AM

    @Anti Toxic Quango: The figure fluctuates a lot (depending on government budgets and priorities). The money was spent on water infrastructure that was inefficiently managed relative to the whole country. We have something like over 800 water treatment plants when we only need ~300. This was because 34 LA’s managed the water independently of each other.

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    Mute Colette Kearns
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    Jul 20th 2018, 8:18 AM

    @Stephen Boland: catch up, this is common knowledge!

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    Mute Will J. Browne
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    Jul 20th 2018, 8:37 AM

    @Colette Kearns: We are not paying anything. The shortfall caused by that has to be filled from the housing budget. Catch up! That’s common knowledge.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:32 PM

    What’s ‘Irish Water’?

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    Mute Stephen Grehan
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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:45 PM

    @Paul Mcnevin:Its a scam put together by Hogan, Kenny, Kelly, O’Brien, Paul you know the usual suspects.

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    Mute Will J. Browne
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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:46 PM

    @Stephen Grehan: It’s a water company. A lot of Irish people are suspicious of it. It’s a peculiarly Irish phenomenon that shows that ignorant superstition and fear of the new still thrive here. Some people become afraid when we try to move from the old backward ways we used to have. It’s like in the old days when people thought science was witchcraft.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:32 AM

    @Will J. Browne:

    Agreed, its the same with cancer in the pylons, cancer in the wind turbines…

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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:22 AM

    @Tim Pot: Tghe two IW or government spokesmen ganging up on anyone who comments suggesting that an agenda is at work here re water.
    They are correct.
    Both of you are wrong, simply pumping out spin.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 8:45 AM

    @Dave Doyle: Strangest of all is when they all assemble for mass marches, following their cultish leaders and chanting incantations to make the “evil” water company go away. Anthropologists have come from all over the world to witness these bizarre events.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 1:29 PM

    @Will J. Browne: FG fanboy. You need more than anthropologists to figure out your bizarre love for the cult of FG who see delight in the homeless dying on the streets of the country. See people on hospital waiting lists for treatment for years. See 7 managers for each doctor in the HSE, people left to die on trollies in hospital corridors. See mass evictions that rival what Trevelyan done on the native Irish during genocide times. See a country awash with water not being able to plan for the occassional drought.
    Leo’s in need of another lick, off you go.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:39 PM

    This is all about getting people to comply with the dictates from IW. Complience is what they need to make themselves relevant.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:56 PM

    @Dave Doyle: It’s noticeable how water protesters and climate change denialists sound almost exactly alike.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:43 AM

    @Dave Doyle:

    #waterconspiracy

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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:24 AM

    @Will J. Browne: So water protesters are all climate change deniers?
    Just more slander, nothing else.
    Slander is all the government had and have.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:13 PM

    Why is the spokesperson unnamed? Regards Bill

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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:21 PM

    @Bill Brown: ha ha he doesn’t want his neighbors to know where he works.

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    Mute Stephen Fitzgerald
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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:20 PM

    Irish Water Ltd has no power to impose any bans as it is a private company governed by shares it can’t actually enact any legislation. Only Government can. So Irish water can’t extend anything. It may be totally owned by the government but it’s still just a limited company with no power over citizens of Ireland. It’s all in the set up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:12 AM

    @Stephen Fitzgerald:

    Thats the spirit, show them who is really in control by watering your roses!

    ….enjoy your €125 fine

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    Jul 20th 2018, 6:54 AM

    @Tim Pot: Are you IW’s spokesman?

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:37 PM

    this is ridiculous, it is summer time, there is going to be spells of hot dry weather, fix the leaks, build reservoirs to store more water. Families in the summer time can’t even fill a paddling pool in their back garden, it’s utter nonsense.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:41 PM

    @Lisa Byrne: our normal spells of hot dry weather are usually 3-4 days in an Irish summer. We haven’t had this kind of summer since 1976. Even if the joke that is IW did have all the leaks under control I doubt we’d have enough water to fill your paddling pool. Building extra reservoirs for once in every 40 year freak weather doesn’t make sense

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:59 PM

    @Sea Graham: Of course it makes sense to build reservoirs and fix the leaks, it is common sense, that was the whole point of Irish Water was to look after the water, they have 1 job. It might not be a freak of weather nature and could continue, the climate is changing, I know it, you know it, baby jesus knows it.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 3:39 PM

    @Sea Graham: We need more reservoirs anyway instead of ridiculous ideas of pumping more water to Dublin from the Shannon. Dublin’s business infrastructure and population has expanded greatly over the years but services have not. Summer weather should not cause hose pipe bans and inability to fill a paddling pool so people can actually enjoy it. We get endless rain most of the year storing this water makes sense, climate change is happening for whatever reason and demand for water from business and population growth is only going to increase.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:47 PM

    @Heather Knowles:

    Reservoirs need a supply of water.

    The shannon scheme will supply water to reservoirs…

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    Jul 20th 2018, 8:33 PM

    @Tim Pot: It’s all set up as an earner for Dennis. Nothing else.

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    Jul 21st 2018, 5:20 AM

    @Dave Doyle: Yes its all a conspiracy…

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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:02 PM

    The most amusing part about the media constantly mentioning this fake company is that every article about them is convincing the very few remaining doubters that this fake company is indeed utterly fake and useless. Lots of own goals there lads, give over. You are fooling no one.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:04 PM

    @Ronan Sexton: I don’t think so. If someone is willfully ignorant then they’ll stay at the same level of ignorance no matter what they’re told. That’s why there will always remain a small cohort of water protesters. Open minded people will, in contrast, respond to information and modulate their opinions accordingly.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:22 PM

    @Will J. Browne: ignorance is the stupidity of you and your people ignoring the voices of the population. Now pack your bags and f#ck off

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:23 PM

    @Will J. Browne: I can show you where the door is if you’d like

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:23 PM

    @Will J. Browne: would you prefer the window

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:24 PM

    @Will J. Browne: your not only ignorant but quite frankly rude

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:24 PM

    @Will J. Browne: you’re annoying me now

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:24 PM

    @Will J. Browne: wrong

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:25 PM

    @Will J. Browne: And very poorly informed

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:27 PM

    @Will J. Browne: let’s cut down all the trees and start charging people for air.. That’s my next idea… What’s yours?

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:16 AM

    @Ronan Sexton:

    I get you, because we have no water, we don’t need a water company. You makes sense…. not

    Its all a mega conspiracy lads…

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    Jul 20th 2018, 6:58 AM

    @Tim Pot: Simply because people do not believe what either IW or the government has to say does not mean they are conspiracy theorists.
    Any conspiracy is by IW and FFG and their agenda to privatise the water resource.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:56 PM

    Look on the bright side, if river levels rise maybe councils can start pouring sewage back into rivers. This drought has not only effected water supply’s but also sewage discharge. Maybe IW would like to explain how councils are dealing with this problems and how to reduce ‘customers’ bodily functions. maybe a ban on no.2′s.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 8:44 PM

    These clowns give out about leaks & bursting pipes all flamin winter, then moan about drought during the summer. Are they doing anything positive at all? How do they justify their wages? Paid directly by the taxpayers, so no need to report in on any plans etc…

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:18 AM

    @Joe Hill:
    Joe… it is their job to supply us with water, so when they cannot, due to burst pipes in winter, or droughts affecting supply in summer, would you not think they should inform us and keep us up to date…?

    Here are the plans, on their website of all places…
    https://www.water.ie/projects-plans/our-projects/

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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:00 AM

    @Tim Pot: You must believe in conspiracies to believe anything from IW.
    Paper never refuses ink.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:28 AM

    @Tim Pot: IW’s job is to bill people fior water. They were set up for nothing else. They are incapable of doing anything else.

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    Jul 21st 2018, 5:23 AM

    @Dave Doyle:

    Quick you better tell them to stop fixing leaks, building new treatment plants ect…

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:08 PM

    I thought the Irish people voted to kick irsh water in the ass why are they sill around doesn’t make since backdoor job comes to mind doesn’t matter anyway general election on the way

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:16 PM

    @Liam Ward: What vote was that?

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:20 PM

    @Thomas O’ Donnell: The people’s vote. We all had a word, were you not there ?

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:52 PM

    @Liam Ward: that sentence is very Joycean, almost a literary rendering of the fluidity of Irish water: kudos to you fine sir, kudos!

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:19 AM

    @Liam Ward: the vote to put FG back in was it??

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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:33 AM

    @Tim Pot: “put FG back in” That never happened. Fg are “back in” by way of back room deals made with a number of so called independents and a supposed opposition. Hence a MINORITY FG led government.
    It has made a total mockery of democracy.
    You’ve nailed your couours to the mast now.
    Every bit of BS you utter on this thread is nothing but FG government spin and lies to futher the privatisation agenda.

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    Jul 21st 2018, 5:27 AM

    @Dave Doyle:

    Haha if that is not spin I don’t know what is…

    Feel free to point out any of my ‘lies’?

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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:13 PM

    Won’t be to long now till iw will be giving us flood warnings!

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    Jul 19th 2018, 6:59 PM

    Love these guys

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    Jul 19th 2018, 11:55 PM

    I find it amazing how there are so many people that use water between 10pm and 6am that the pressure needs reducing. It’s more likely that the amount of leaks in the system allows so much water to leak that it’s the same usage at night time as it is during the day

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    Jul 19th 2018, 7:52 PM

    Hold on we live Ireland yet there is no rain and we have a drought what a bizarre year we are having

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    Jul 20th 2018, 7:07 AM

    @Darren Farrell: In Bulgaria here, we have long, very hot summers, every year, not just once in a blue moon. Bulgaria doesn’t have the rainfall or anything like Ireland’s water resource. Yet there is no hosepipe bans, no water being cut off, little leakage, leaks are fixed.
    The difference is there is no agenda to privatise the water resource here.
    It’s as simple as that.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 12:28 PM

    @Dave Doyle: We should do what they do then. How much are water charges in Bulgaria?

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    Jul 20th 2018, 1:41 PM

    @Ronan Shalloe: About 1.35 incl.vat euro per cubic meter here in Burgas. That’s total charge including waste water. Pricies vary around the country. There is a review of charges at the end of this year which will probably result in a reduction. The regulator isn’t happy with the levels of price rises.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 1:48 PM

    @Dave Doyle: Do you have any objection to paying that?

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    Jul 20th 2018, 2:26 PM

    @Ronan Shalloe: None at all. Just like no one any objection to paying for water. You pay you bill and that’s it.
    It’s entirely another matter when you’re lied to to force you to pay again for water, slander you when you object to paying twice, have the agenda of privatising the water resource behind it.
    Is that what you’re getting at?

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    Jul 20th 2018, 2:47 PM

    @Dave Doyle: Right2Water object to it. They’re an anti-water charge campaign. It says so on their Facebook page. We can’t do what they do in Bulgaria because Right2Water would protest against it. Is that not the difference between us and Bulgaria?

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:30 PM

    @Ronan Shalloe: I guessed that’s what you were driving at. FG lied about water charges and the reasons for them. Water you well know is and always was paid for. No one ever got water for free, despite the lies told by FFG, and believed by the fanboys like yourself.
    IW is corrupt, it was set up in lies and corruption. The lies were very easy see through. The agenda for privatisation is still alive
    A few more protests are needed to remind FFG who actually calls the shots. This time a few French style tactics should be involved just to show FFG what exactly is at stake.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 4:52 PM

    @Dave Doyle: In Ireland we try to pay for water from general taxation; in Bulgaria they pay directly. From your experience, which one works best? Would you recommend the Bulgarian method to us, or would you recommend our way of doing it to the Bulgarians?

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    Jul 20th 2018, 8:49 PM

    @Ronan Shalloe: Since 1997 29 Billion hs been collected for water. Not one cent of it accounted for. In fact the government denied that water was ever paid for.
    Legislation was passed for a designated proportion of two tax vehicles tax money to go to water services. More than sufficient was collected for water services by this method. It’s an easy painless way of paying for water. As long as the designated funds go to where it’s intended for. It’s as clear as day that this never happened.
    The government lied through their teeth on the issue.
    Paying by direct metered readings has it’s merits. For it to work in Ireland the designated proporation of tax must be reduced first.
    So much corruption surrounds these so called Smart water meters, the forcing of them on people who rightfully seen no reason for them, that they will never be acceptable to the majority of Irish people.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 9:16 PM

    @Dave Doyle: What you’ve said is that the Irish system sucks, which it does. You’ve suggested they change it to something like the Bulgarian system, which you’ve seen and works great, but then you’ve said you won’t allow them do that and will protest against it using violence. I’m not sure what the government is supposed to do here.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 9:54 PM

    @Ronan Shalloe: Go away Ronan, no where in my reply did i advocate violence. You’ve twisted my words to suit your arguement.
    I said the Irish system is a painless way of paying. Not that it sucks. I never suggested they change.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 9:59 PM

    @Dave Doyle: When water charges were introduced tax was reduced. The only difference was that you knew where the money was going and that the water system could look after itself even when there were recessions. The idea that there was ever a portion of general taxation that was designated for water is completely bogus. It never happened and it’s not the way general taxation works.

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    Jul 20th 2018, 10:02 PM

    @Dave Doyle: What did you mean by French style tactics? The Irish system of paying is very painless: we don’t pay for it. That’s the difference between us and the Bulgarians.

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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:03 PM

    Here’s a comparison image I made that shows the effects of the drought from space

    https://i.imgur.com/7xASg1A.jpg

    And a comparison between drought conditions and before the drought

    https://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/juxtapose/latest/embed/index.html?uid=7eeaf706-8704-11e8-b263-0edaf8f81e27

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    Jul 19th 2018, 9:24 PM

    @David Jordan: that’s pretty cool

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    Jul 20th 2018, 12:13 AM

    @David Jordan: that’s very good well done lad

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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:10 PM

    Maybe freest could come and fix the leak I reported on several occasions over the last several weeks water literally gong down the drain on a picnic path. Greenest grass in the town beside it

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    Jul 19th 2018, 10:09 PM

    If it’s good enough for up North of The Island to abandon the ban, it’s good enough for the South of the Island to follow suit?

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    Jul 20th 2018, 12:03 AM

    Oh fuq of irish waster ffs
    Everyone is tired of you”r lying crud

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