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A fire is blazing on the roof of Oberstown's youth detention centre

Five units of the Dublin Fire Brigade are at the scene to try and contain the blaze.

Updated 9.40pm

A FIRE HAS broken out on the roof of Oberstown Detention Centre.

A spokesperson for Dublin Fire Brigade said that they received the call about a blaze breaking out on the roof at 7.50pm.

There are currently five fire engines at the scene and another on its way. There is also a foam cannon and 30-foot ladder at the scene as well as two district officers. At this point, firefighters do not know what caused the blaze.

Earlier in the day residents climbed onto the roof of the centre while staff were striking in a row over safety.

A spokesperson for Oberstown said it is understood that it was some of the residents who caused the fire.

There are no reports at this time of any injuries.

Earlier today

It’s understood the residents were supposed to stay in their rooms until 4pm today, when the 8-hour work stoppage came to an end.

Some 150 staff were involved in the strike over the increased number of assaults. Siptu and Impact say the new campus is badly designed to deal with young offenders.

However, some of the residential care workers came off the picket line to deal with incidents at the centre.

Earlier reports said that five residents had climbed onto the roof of the campus.

Management at the country’s only youth detention campus said today’s industrial action posed a serious health and safety risk, with emergency cover in place.

Oberstown director Pat Bergin told on RTÉ’s News at One, “We’re looking to sit back down and address what the core issues are.

It is quite distressing for everybody. It is a situation that will have to be concluded, a resolution will be reached.

The Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Katherine Zappone says she’s disappointed that “vulnerable young people will be impacted by the action”.

Fianna Fáil Spokesperson on Children & Youth Affairs Anne Rabbitte said, “There have been a number of violent incidents in recent months where staff and residents have been left traumatised. Despite this, there has been very little improvement in security training or staff resources.

There have been a series of issues at the Oberstown site following the transfer of older teenagers from St. Patrick’s and Wheatfield last year.

“Staff at the facility have become so frustrated with the situation that they have had to undertake industrial action.

“It is unfair on staff and residents to allow the current conditions to continue and it is important that we get to the bottom of the issues that are perpetrating this situation as a matter of urgency.”

Strike action is planned for the next three Mondays but Bergin said it’s hoped that the issues will be resolved by then:

“I wouldn’t like to see a repeat of today going forward for the next couple of weeks.”

With additional reporting from Gráinne Ní Aodha and Aoife Barry.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:04 PM

    My favourite part is where the minister refers to the little scrotes climbing on the roof as vulnerable young children.

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    Mute Gunnarsahn
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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:07 PM

    half the problem is theres a mix of all sorts in oberstown, young lads who are hardened by life and their circumstances and dont give a f*ck anymore, and others who are only in care and shouldnt be with the former

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:19 PM

    Some very dangerous criminals in there….criminals…not “young people”…..

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    Mute Vincent Wallace
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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:41 PM

    Yes Peter in there along with vulnerable young children. Government is a disgrace in this… I wouldn’t even call it a Country anymore. Unless your in the top 1% your not a citizen. I mean this joke of a news app is treating a crook like a wronged innocent man.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:53 PM

    I think we the ordinary people should all get up on our roofs! Refuse to come down until we get people in power who will actually stand up for us. It’s sickening how the same old faces get to make up the rules, which are always made to suit them and their friends at the top! 2% have everything. 98% just about survive!!

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    Mute Gunnarsahn
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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:36 PM

    Peter you’re right there are hard, hard chaps in there, its a sad (but real) fact that you can be like that and still be so young. they should never have got to that point, babies don’t come into the world as thugs. the poverty trap and sink estates churn out angry kids with no thought of consequences and no impulse control.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:12 PM

    we did vote for them not that long ago.

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    Mute Mary Murphy
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:57 PM

    Exactly John B. Not a word for the vulnerable workers. They don’t count at all. Bloody Eejit of a minister

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    Mute Mary Murphy
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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:03 PM

    Exactly John B. But what about the vulnerable workers minister Zappone.

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:45 PM

    If Ms Zappone has any moral fibre she will immediately resign…..and give Pat Bergin a lift to the bus stop….

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    Mute Mary Murphy
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    Aug 30th 2016, 8:03 AM

    Exactly John B. Minister Zappone is an Eejit. What about the poor vulnerable young and not so young working people who are looking after these creatures.

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    Mute Gunnarsahn
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    Aug 29th 2016, 2:58 PM

    this place is unequipped to deal with the young offenders they hoofed in once they closed Pats, it wasnt built for that- as long as theyre locked away thats the job done as far as DOJ is concerned.

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    Mute Derek Trotter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 7:45 PM

    They aint getting on so well in wheatfield either the kids ! Up on a roof in the yard and set cells on fire in the last month or so. Judge Rielly, Emily Logan and our ministers ordered the closure of st pats and said the kids would spend a short time in wheatfield(3 years later still there) and oberstown. The kids are still wrecking the places. When will the people that put them in these places be held accountable ?

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    Mute cholly appleseed
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:06 PM

    Well when you put social workers in a prison instead of prison officers, obviously the kids will get unruly. Bring back St Patrick’s prison. These are not vulnerable kids. Most are s$cum

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    Mute Derek Trotter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:12 PM

    I worked in what was known as st pats at the time. I know exactly what them poor people are going through. When pats closed down the comments on here made the staff of st pats out to be monsters. Prison officers who comment on here predicted how this would end. Judge Michael Rielly made these reccomendations for oberstown.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:26 PM

    I remember it well Derek….they demonised the PO’s…

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:31 PM

    Peter staff of st pats walking to the shop had newspaper and tv cameras pointed at them. While the parents of the prisoners locked up in pats abused them. Very tough times.

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:33 PM

    Watch and see in the media tomorrow. When the finger pointing begins. I wonder what odds the bookies would give me for the blame to aimed at the Staff?

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:35 PM

    Maybe they deserved it

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    Mute Derek Trotter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:38 PM

    Mick its a pity that the higher powers dont just admit they tried a certain way and got it wrong. Come with a new plan with everybody involved at the table to try and fix it. Everybody would be a winner. Unf i think your right and the blame game will start from the bottom up.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:45 PM

    ERU deployed there now . It’s ridiculous what’s going on in that place. ..

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:48 PM

    Even money….a dead cert mick..

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:55 PM

    Mortar the place to fck.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:14 PM

    are you serious suzie? this is not going to end well

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:30 PM

    Fiddlers on the roof – Make them repair it – or sleep without a roof – An easy choice. No doubt the bleeding hearts will respond to this post …. Ah the poor things.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:41 PM

    Jenni .. it should never have been allowed to get this bad ..

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:46 PM

    I bet they did. The pro-criminal do-gooders, loudly advocating the softest possible treatment for those who spend their lives damaging society. Plenty of them about.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:56 PM

    that is a statement of extremes, you don’t have anything in the middle do you?

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:48 AM

    Ill be shocked if Ms Zappone doesnt push Pat Bergin under a Citylink coach for this….shes on the gravy train and shes not gettin off until shes ready….

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:54 AM

    @suzie …. ah the poor children. Get them to re-roof? Repair & redecorate the lot – they will learn & appreciate their comfortable surroundings then. Otherwise, let them experience the open skys of autumn, winter, spring & summer – at least that would be educational. They might even get a job in the Met office. Starry starry nite.

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    Aug 30th 2016, 1:02 AM

    James. . You can’t be making them do things like that now .. they’ll be given warm clothes and cosy slippers with some hot chocolate to heat them up and made to promise that they’ll never do anything that again .. after all they could’ve fallen and hurt themselves …

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    Aug 30th 2016, 1:37 AM

    It’s not a statement of extremes, it’s the truth.

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    Aug 30th 2016, 1:41 AM

    @gun….. These kids are great – lovely children ….m but they need to be Riveyting – Rivettong the roof back on, that will keep them warm in the next 8 mths. S(umbags.

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    Mute Dnomsed
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    Aug 30th 2016, 10:25 AM

    Surely they put themselves there.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:02 PM

    They need prison officers in there.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:48 PM

    With big shiny steel toe boots!!!

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:26 PM

    They’ll be down when they get hungry other than that I’d leave them there

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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:23 PM

    that is exactly what my mother would have said if i were up to these sort of antics

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    Aug 29th 2016, 9:59 PM

    I believe one of the care workers is in hospital getting surgery on his face as I type this comment. The public don’t have a clue what some of the thugs in Oberstown have been convicted of. Some are really vicious,dangerous serial offenders who should be in jail,not a care home.

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:19 AM

    But the vulnerable young people – as Pat Bergin demands we describe them – who attacked this care worker are heroes in their “communities”…this night will long be remembered by the young people….

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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:17 PM

    Zappone hasnt got a clue….what to do.

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:28 PM

    Resign Zappone!

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    Aug 30th 2016, 8:38 AM

    She will take the long route to a solution to this problem.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:05 PM

    What was it Tommy Tiernan said??? “On the shed, on the shed, on the shed….. Cos thick f£%&+@s love sheds!”

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    Mute Mick Jordan
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    Aug 29th 2016, 8:46 PM

    Anyone notice that Esteemed Judge, Mrs Reilly and all those other “Experts ” that deemed St Patrick’s was unsuitable to contain these violent young criminals are nowhere to be seen now that the warnings from Prison Staff have come to pass. The public were told that the Regime in St Patrick’s was “cruel and barbaric” and the in Oberstown they would be treated with kid gloves. Working out well isn’t it!!!.

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 9:01 PM

    Bashar al Assad could make good use of a platoon or two of these “vulnerable young people”….

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:02 PM

    There will always be a few really bad apples in any such facility and treating them fairly or kindly is just seen by them as a weakness to be exploited. Why not feed them sedatives like they do in some countries?

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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:42 PM

    What other Countries is that then?

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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:13 PM
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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:18 PM

    You’ve just quoted what is considered a national scandal as your source

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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:41 PM

    ah john forced drugging isn’t the answer, that doesn’t change anything- id say only the big drugs companies are behind that

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    Aug 29th 2016, 7:35 PM

    Pity the Minister Isn,t as concerned about the staff as she is about the Young Offenders!

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    Aug 29th 2016, 9:02 PM

    Staff don’t really matter once the kids are looked after. How many teachers were supposed to be teaching today might have been 22;great little country.

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    Aug 30th 2016, 8:09 AM

    It seems that criminals whether white collar or delinquent get all the rewards in this great little country

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:36 PM

    How secure can it be when 5 of the “criminal young people” are able to take to the roof? Id say this vindicates the staff’s concerns/fears….

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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:16 PM

    Spray some grease on the roof. Works with burglars!

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:01 AM

    Spray some bullets

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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:25 PM

    Yes another bunch for sterilisation doc
    Save us a fortune in children’s allowances in future !!!!

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:39 PM

    Serious sympathy for the staff having to deal with all this crap. Hope you’re all ok. Just keep thinking that there’s more to life than a shitty job with young lads who will beat the crap out of you as quick as look at you!!! Best of luck with the higher management & hopefully something will be sorted to protect you.

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    Mute John Martin
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    Aug 29th 2016, 5:46 PM

    It’s about time the bleeding heart liberals who are to blame for this mess to be put back in their box and treat these criminals as what they are… criminals, not children. The amount of misery every one of these had to cause to be put in here in the first place means they are criminals. Softly Solfty don’t be a bold boy does not work. They need prison officers. Just look at the new film out in a few weeks called Young Offenders. The premis of the film is how they are not criminals they are young offenders and won’t go to a proper prison making our whole system a laughing stock

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:37 PM

    That isn’t proper establishment for social care workers. This is real environment where staff are the vulnerable not the clients/service users. There should be consequences, but the minister in the role of SCW see how he would fair out. Social Care Workers safety and life is paramount not service users.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:06 PM

    Natural born roofers.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:33 PM

    Zappone is probably too busy helping herself to the gravy to actually have anything helpful to say “vulnerable young people” indeed

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:32 PM

    @anthony campion,
    Definitely, it’s a pity she doesn’t spend as much time on this matter as she does on her travel expenses.

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    Mute Tom
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:06 PM

    What ya think now judge Reilly about these misunderstood lads

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:26 PM

    Napalm

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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:20 PM

    I’d say you should move to Saudi Arabia but even they’re more civilised than you. Maybe just stay quiet instead.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:26 PM

    Send them out to Sheriff Joe Arpiao’s chain gang in tent city Arizona, six months hard labour there would put manners on these thugs.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 9:56 PM

    Horrible little fu(ks

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    Mute Tom
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:25 PM

    Shame on the lot of them ,from the judge to the rest of the pc brigade who let this happen,these are thugs not vulnerable young people ,wake up Ireland

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    Aug 29th 2016, 8:15 PM

    There is now a fire in Oberstown. It has gone beyond a joke now

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:06 PM

    We should call this fire in Oberstown the “Bonfire of the Vanities”. The vanity of the Judge, Mrs Logan and all the other academic experts that thought it would be a good idea to place hardened criminals in a place like Oberstown because the tough discipline of St Patrick’s offended them.

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:52 PM

    Any vacant cells in Pats right now Mick? Theres 40 or so singed but excited “vulnerable young people” need somewhere secure to serve the rest of their sentences for their multiple criminal convictions….

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:06 AM

    Unfortunately Mountjoy West as it is currently called is full. Being on Protection seems to be in vogue lately. You will remember a time when being “On the Numbers” was considered by convicts to be the lowest of the low. Not anymore.

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:31 AM

    Thats unfortunate Mick….these vulnerable young people need security, showers, fresh clothing, food, counselling, legal advice, a roof over their heads, they are effectively homeless and now even more vulnerable…..as children its unthinkable and heartbreaking, at the very least they should be taxied to a hotel until their home in Oberstown is rebuilt.

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:46 AM

    I am sure the good Judge, Mrs Logan etc would be delighted to help in accommodating these little darlings in their own homes. Surely it’s the least they could do considering that they are the cause. I wonder if any of the “experts” will volunteer their services and homes in this time of need.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:13 PM

    Poor misunderstood children from socially deprived areas blah blah blah !!

    Nearly impossible to get a custodial sentence in Ireland unless you are right little toe rag.

    Bring in public flogging and I reckon they wouldn’t be so quick to wreck places.

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    Mute David Sheridan
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    Aug 29th 2016, 9:30 PM

    The unit is currently on fire. Massive flames coming from a unit on the campus. Helicopter flying over it for last 2-3 hours

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:52 PM

    Will someone for God’s sake, grow a pair of balls and re-open St. Pats…

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    Mute John Ward
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:47 PM

    Send the little båstards to somewhere like Spike Island.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 6:43 PM

    Residents!!!!

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    Aug 29th 2016, 8:21 PM

    Service users and customers!!!

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:33 PM

    Rodents.

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    Mute Mary Murphy
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:53 PM

    Ms Zappone, never mind the vulnerable young people. They have destroyed it and are trying to destroy the vulnerable young and older people trying to make a difference in these young hudlums lives.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 9:57 PM

    At least they’re off the roof now .. hope the fire fighters keep safe ..

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:20 PM

    The ould ‘snack box’ trick worked then?

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    Mute Suzie Sunshine
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:38 PM

    And a few bottles of coke .. sorted ..

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:32 PM

    Prisons have mainly male officers whereas social care workers are mainly female, some small and petitie who don’t stand a chance with 16 and 17 year old’s who are as big as rugby players. St Pat’s had cells, handcuffs and big oificers, Oberstown has rooms, no hand cuffs and small child care workers. The move towards a child centred approach to all matters was doomed to failure as the State closed St Micheals Assessment Unit and stopped sending teenagers to custody so they never learned they are not allowed. If as a State we placed a child in Oberstown for 1, 2 or 3 nights on their first offence, it would scare the ++++ out of them and stop their offending. Anything longer they’d adapt, learn from the hardened one’s and the benefit would be gone. Bring back assessment services, sentence for 24, 48 hours and re-open St Pat’s for repeat offenders, there’s no getting on the roof there:::

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    Aug 29th 2016, 3:03 PM

    Close the comments,may be a prosecution in the future

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 4:38 PM

    The only prosecutions will be against the staff as part of the blame game……

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:02 AM

    Zappone fiddles while Oberstown burns.

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:23 PM

    Pat Bergin….get your coat …

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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:19 PM

    Money wasted on lovely digs for pieces of $cum…great country we live in.

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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:06 AM

    The social justice wan#er commanding Oberstown did a fluffy interview with Pat Kenny last week during which he made it clear hes against restraint techniques, handcuffs, the word “NO” etc….that all that is required with these vulnerable young people is patience…..they have repaid him for his patience tonight.

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    Aug 30th 2016, 3:29 AM

    That idiot should be sacked

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    Mute Screaming Toddy
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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:28 PM

    Leave them burn. Do society a favour.

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    Mute liam whelan
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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:29 PM

    A good boot in the whole, that’ll put most of them back in their box! Little $cumbags!

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    Mute ijlester
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    Aug 30th 2016, 5:51 AM

    Vulnerable young people will be impacted by the actions – of the vulnerable young people. Catherine Zappone, Minister for Children & Youth Affairs gives another insight into the disrespect the government have for the workers charged with looking after said “vulnerable young people” by blaming this latest incident on the workers – where they are really the vulnerable people in this situation. She has no understanding of the pressures of working in a place like this – where vicious and unprovoked attacks are a daily occurrence. The world was nearly brought to an end when Joan Burtons schedule was held up for a half an hour – but the staff members who know they’re going to be assaulted soon, and often – with zero consequences for the offender – are expected to grin and bear it – and be attacked as weak and sponging for being out on sick leave as a result. Zappone might be able to knock a few more miles worth of expenses for a few spins out to Oberstown to “investigate” this latest debacle. Thats one thing shes good at anyway.

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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:43 PM
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    Mute Peter Fechter
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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:15 AM

    This centre has been under re construction for years now…..its probably run to 50-100 million euros by now…..a heap of smouldering ashes….

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    Aug 29th 2016, 8:27 PM

    ‘Anti social climbers’ or the roofies are ‘on the house’?

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    Mute Stuart Kelly
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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:04 AM

    Are the prisoners on fire yet, save us a bloody bomb

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    Mute P-O-B
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    Aug 29th 2016, 7:37 PM

    Should have climbed the wall

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    Aug 30th 2016, 12:16 AM

    These are children! Could we send in more children to sort out the mess though? A Lord of the Flies/ Battle Royale type solution? The Minister for Prisoners should consider it.

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    Mute Martin O' Neill
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:52 PM

    Dantes inferno

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    Mute Mary Murphy
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    Aug 29th 2016, 11:04 PM

    Won’t take my comments.

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    Mute Mairead Ni Chleirigh
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    Aug 29th 2016, 10:03 PM

    There’s a shock

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    Mute Dnomsed
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    Aug 30th 2016, 10:29 AM

    Spike Island again.

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