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Covid-19 passenger locator form system to move to online process next week

It’s a legal requirement for people arriving in Ireland from overseas to complete a Covid-19 passenger locator form.

MINISTER FOR HEALTH Stephen Donnelly has today announced that the current Covid-19 Passenger Locator Form will move to an online process next week.

Regulations underpinning the move to an online form were signed by Donnelly today and will come into effect on Wednesday, 26 August.

It is a legal requirement for passengers arriving in Ireland from overseas to complete a Covid-19 Passenger Locator Form.

The form is to be used to facilitate a system of follow up checks to make sure the details entered are correct. The form also ensures more accurate contact tracing, should it be necessary. 

The government continues to advise Irish citizens and residents against all non-essential international travel. 

Travel to a very limited set of locations, which are on the green list, is exempt from this advice.

Passengers arriving into Ireland from overseas are asked to restrict their movements for 14 days unless arriving from one of the green-listed countries with a “normal precautions” travel advisory from the Department of Foreign Affairs.

“The public health advice remains that all non-essential travel overseas should be avoided, but we understand that some people need to travel for essential personal and family reasons,” Donnelly said. 

Today’s change is aimed to facilitate this travel and make the completion of the Covid-19 Passenger Locator Form easier for those who need to travel. 

“Importantly we are rolling out an enhanced system of engagements with passengers, which will include issuing targeted public health advice by text message,” Donnelly added.

“Completion of this form helps our public health officials carry out follow-up checks on those arriving into the State. It also facilitates contact tracing efforts in the event of a suspected or confirmed case of Covid-19 on a flight or ship that has landed in Ireland,” he said.

“The government still advises passengers who arrive into Ireland from non-green list countries to restrict their movements for 14 days. This is to limit the possible importing of Covid-19 and onward transmission of the disease to their families, communities and workplaces.”

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    Mute Eric
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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:14 PM

    Eoin Ó Broin is correct on this one. Renting out a room in a property you live in yourself is fine by me, but when tranches of entire properties are being let out on an almost industrial scale it has to have negative consequences for everyone.

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    Mute Darren Bates
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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:16 PM

    A lot of people like staying in an actual house rather than a room. How is this negative?

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    Mute Robert O'Rourke
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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:17 PM

    The massive shortage of rental properties perhaps?

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    Mute Eric
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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:24 PM

    @Darren Bates: The owner most likely doesn’t have the right planning permission to let out their house, for one. Secondly, the neighbours won’t take too kindly to the noise and anti-social behaviour it often brings to their locality.

    Thirdly, as discussed elsewhere, it removes housing stock from the market which could be used for actual homes, and repurposes it to be used as a cash cow to be milked by speculative owners.

    Fourth, it converts streets and apartment developments from communities into unstaffed hotel complexes without any of the necessary facilities and resources available.

    Finally, it will probably make your house/apartment harder to sell if it’s stuck beside such a house.

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    Mute Captain kirk
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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:24 PM

    People invest in property to make money not to fix a disasterous housing strategy from a series of governments. Build more houses

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    Mute Mr Snuffleupagus
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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:29 PM

    @Captain kirk: Yes, and people also use AirBnb for profit and so should regulated fully. Just because it’s a novel idea, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be regulated in full like any other sector.

    I paid 30k in tax last year on my income. I’ll pay more this year unless there’s a downturn on the way. I’ve no objection to people making a few quid, Airbnb included, but I strongly object to them doing it under the counter.

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    Mute justanothertaxpayer
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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:14 PM

    @Mr Snuffleupagus: you going to report your sister in law’s “considerable income” to revenue then?
    And what has your income tax got to do with this?

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    Mute Captain kirk
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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:14 PM

    Nobody is doing anything under the counter as revenue are informed of any dealings on Airbnb by the company. If they choose not to declare the income it would be easy for revenue to find out

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    Mute Tim
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    Jan 26th 2017, 5:34 PM

    Eric. When did it become the private sectors responsibility to provide housing/homes?

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    Jan 26th 2017, 6:03 PM

    If you own a house it is yours to do what you please with, goes with ownership.

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    Mute declan obrien
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    Jan 26th 2017, 6:24 PM

    The problem is 1) it’s against planning permission 2) it invalidates block insurance policy 3) it creates anti-social behaviour and security issues 4) it removes much needed housing stock from the rental market.

    Great that people are making a few quid from letting out a spare room, not so great when individuals and businesses remove decent homes in prime locations from the market at a time of a housing emergency. Yes we need more homes built, but there’s no point building when a portion of homes are being siphoned off as de facto hotels.

    Strong need for regulation similar to that being introduced in other cities. What is the cost to the economy in having these properties being removed from the residential market?

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    Mute Jeremy DeChad
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    Jan 27th 2017, 9:09 PM

    @declan obrien: wrong, a guest would very quickly get a bad reputation if anti social and would not be allowed to stay anywhere else. Likewise due to the owners not giving a great experience to guests. Guests are no more antisocial than many tenants. Clearly airbnb are a boon to the tourist industry and contribute hugely to Ireland Inc. They also provide an alternative for home owners who are totally uncomfortable with the government’s continuous and self defeating attempts to tell people what they can and cannot do with their homes regarding the private rental market. The idea appears to be to encourage people to just go on the dole, not to work, not to try to improve one lot, just take, take, take. Fine much more “regulations” and we will do just that.

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    Jan 28th 2017, 11:37 AM

    @Jeremy DeChad: I’m not just talking about anti-social behaviour in the sense of people trashing an apartment (although this of course does happen) – its more about the basic disruption that comes with living in a de facto hotel, cleaning crews coming in, guests arriving day and night etc. (i’m referring to the full-scale commercial letting of homes as hotels, not occasionally letting out rooms, which is a brilliant idea)

    I agree with you that the rental sector is badly in need of reform – but Airbnb is not the answer in the long term. Allowing it to operate on a commercial basing, subverting planning regulation and having property owners avoid their commercial obligations while at the same time removing stock from the residential supply is just helping to add to the social problems. It’s one part of a puzzle, but Airbnb is doubling in size every year, so the issues are only set to intensify.

    Also, it’s been established that this commercial activity is against planning law. If a unit is operating commercially, should it not be paying commercial rates, water rates, etc?

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    Feb 1st 2017, 10:07 PM

    @declan, not clear that it is against planning law and you do have the same recourse as with any noisy, nuisance neighbour. What about the huge contribution to the economy from people who otherwise would not come. Ultimately aforementioned aside I beg to say that I should be able to do what I want with my home as per my constitutional property rights, as long as I am not breaking any rules re noise etc and I would like to use airbnb, it just suits me as I want my place back whenever I want. This is a case of gov’t interfering a little to much, but then maybe I need to learn to play the system and fill out that dole application form.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:32 PM

    Air bnb…the largest hotel operator in the world and it owns no property.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:49 PM

    @Dick Durkin: Just like Facebook creates no content, Alibaba carries no stock, and Uber owns no vehicles. It’s a brave new world

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:56 PM

    Putting power back into the hands of the people.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 5:34 PM

    @_doesnotcompute: “Facebook creates no content, Alibaba carries no stock, and Uber owns no vehicles. It’s a brave new world” – and they all are worth billions $ !!

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    Jan 26th 2017, 5:58 PM

    It’s a service. I’ve used them and to be honest between hostels and air bnb it’s allowed me to travel around the world for very cheap. Great service and I’ll continue to use them. Not in Ireland though. Everything here is over priced

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:14 PM

    So thats about 2,500 each of these people pay in extra tax each year then.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:16 PM

    @Nick Allen: Are they all declaring? How do you know?

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:17 PM

    Ha yeah, I’d like to see how many have declared that!

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:17 PM

    1. Doubt that everyone declares the income.
    2. Someone on low income would have a much lower tax liability (if declared)!

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:21 PM

    Airbnb passes on the figures to the revenue so they know anyway…

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:23 PM

    @Reg: I’d have no objection to Airbnb in principle, but having it negatively affect other bona fide businesses like BnB’s who have overheads and are regulated, doesn’t strike me as fair.

    As long as AirBnb is regulated to the same degree I see no problem.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:26 PM

    6000 plus hosts. Wonder how many made tax returns! It’s good that the information is passed to Revenue, hopefully they catch up with those that don’t file returns.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:32 PM

    @Captain kirk:
    Exactly.
    We always get “there not declaring it” comments.

    If anyone is renting out their property on Airbnb and not declaring it in the full knowledge that their details are been passed to the revenue, well they deserve the inevitable double the tax involved plus 18% interest in fines

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:32 PM

    @Reg: Unlikey they’ll catch up with them. I have a sister in law doing it since day 1 and has made considerable income from it these last few years. I wouldn’t begrudge her the income as she genuinely needs it to keep a roof over her head, but she damn sure doesn’t file returns.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:10 PM

    @Glascott Richard Symes: 2 years ago revenue clarified that it does not apply to short term lettings of a few nights like Air BnB mostly operate

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:24 PM

    @Mr Snuffleupagus:

    She / others may have gotten away with that in the past, but details of every penny earned by an Irish host since May 2015 has been passed to Revenue.

    Would strongly recommend you let her know this (though am sure she’s aware).

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    Jan 26th 2017, 8:45 PM

    @Brinster:

    Also there is no time limit on when they can come back to her on that, I have seen guys on Stubbs list recently for income earned in the eighties. The interest was considerably more than the tax in question.

    It’s actually safer to steal the money, you would probably only get probation if you stole it but the revenue will get theirs, of the estate if necessary.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:20 PM

    Airbnb has now become vital in attracting tourism to ireland. The government should be doing everything to encourage it. We can’t afford to jeopardise that kind of income for the economy

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:25 PM

    @Captain kirk: As we’ve recently been told there is a shortage of hotel rooms in Ireland, you may have a strong point there. But there has to be a level playing field for businesses.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:20 PM

    How many rooms/properties do you have on Airbnb cap?

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    Mute Captain kirk
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    Jan 26th 2017, 5:37 PM

    Not enough Jason

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    Jan 26th 2017, 6:56 PM

    Best of luck with them

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:50 PM

    Typical people making some extra cash to pay bills etc and the government wants to stick it’s F**kin nose in because hoteliers are upset ? If you rent out a spare room in your own home why is it the business of the government to get involved FFS !

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:58 PM

    I don’t think the government are that concerned about people renting out their spare room for some extra cash. But they are absolutely right to be concerned by people running it as a business, letting out full properties without the necessary planning authorisation or paying any tax on the income.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:08 PM

    Well the government previously allowed a 12k exemption on letting a room in your own home and they have last year clarified that the exemption doesnt apply for airbnb. Suddenly after pressure from hoteliers they do care about taxing small profits.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:26 PM

    @reg http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/owning_a_home/home_owners/rent_a_room_scheme.html great government F*** over small people the rule was changed last year

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    Jan 26th 2017, 5:05 PM

    @Reg:

    I would fully agree with you but a colleague of mine told me his parent’s, who rent out a couple of rooms in their house received a letter from the revenue asking about their AirBnB income

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:13 PM

    Tax the shit out of it. We have a rental crisis, and rental crisis or no rental crisis that amount of money needs to be regulated and taxed.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:43 PM

    @Mr Snuffleupagus: yep..tax them all, the houses, the rooms, the owners, the neighbors, the dogs, the sheep, the houses, the cars, the buses + trains, the businesses, the workers, the shoppers, the farmers…tax the lot..TAX IRELAND…Céad Mile Fáilte (..tax that to…)

    tax my comment as well ……sure why don’t you…your taxing every phuckin thing else !

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:45 PM

    @CJ Stewart: Thats’ right. everything is taxed. every penny I spend in the shop, pub, petrol, clothes. for my dogs I pay for an annual licence. everything is taxed. Get over it!

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:54 PM

    @Mr Snuffleupagus: when i’m ‘getting over it’…do I pay tax on that as well ? … maybe we could call it the GOT tax…the ‘Getting Over’it Tax’ …..send that one up the pipe line to Noonan…

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    Jan 26th 2017, 5:34 PM

    Even when you die, you (estate) still pay tax

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    Jan 26th 2017, 6:02 PM

    @Finbarr Barry: …tax that corpse …….

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    Jan 26th 2017, 7:46 PM

    …including your sisters I assume…

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:26 PM

    There’s a lot of landlords that have been stung by tenants in the past .. non payments of rent ..property left badly damaged and more and more people are turning to air b&b because of it …

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:01 PM

    Airbnb owners pay tax at income tax rates on small profits on their own properties whereas hotels pay corporate tax rates. Seem fair? Not to me. Its your property you should be allowed do what you want with it. Private home owners arent responsible for solving the housing crisis.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 5:07 PM

    @GunsGerms:

    it is still more income for the private owner and income is subject to tax. After all, don’t we have to pay for our world class services, highly efficient health service, underpaid civil servants and the wonderful government that manager our country for us.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:13 PM

    Why don’t dcc use airbnb to house the homeless

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:25 PM

    Airbnb..Tent for rent up in here Leitrim, Just like a home from home, all complaints ignored, free WiFi with neighbors password and accidentally eco-friendly…..Irish welcome assured..

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    Jan 26th 2017, 4:46 PM

    Air bnb is just excuse to cover up our houseing problem, you work hard buy a 2 nd property why should you be told what you can do with it.

    The real problem is one law for one and one for another,

    There was a lady on the great Ireland sell of mortgage 2 something k a vulture bought her loan for 40 k just so the bank could write it off, imagine how better things be here if they just took smaller payments from the likes of her,

    This is why our houseing is a mess our government createing markets just so a few can squeeze even more from us.

    I m not saying air bnb dosen effect stock, if it we around 20 od years back when more bought their homes it be seen as great thing all these tourists visiting places they normally wouldnt go, the extra cash people with spare rooms get more cash for the economy means more spending.

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    Jan 26th 2017, 3:13 PM

    Don’t tell the government this, they will air bnb apollo house now too! Wait… They ain’t that smart!

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    Jan 26th 2017, 6:47 PM

    The downside of airbnb is that it is making the housing crisis worse by taking house and apartments out of the market

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